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Yes soda I would agree putting on the brave face and keeping on going is what's most tiring. Go easy on yourself chick otherwise it'll come to a head in all the wrong places. I definitely find that the more upset and tired I am about personal stuff the worse work problems feel (not meaning belittle your work situation at all by saying that!) and having to put on a ' life is dandy' face day in and out with kids is blooming hard! I admire you working with little kids all day I don't know if I could.
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Hi Soda, I feel for you must be extra tough putting on a brave face and working with little ones. Hang in there.

NZVeggie soooo happy to read that your first scan went well, very exciting.

Welcome Hopeful.

I had a cuddle of my friends grandaughters 6 month old twins soo cute and luckily didn't make me feel sad about my own situation. Anyways after I left,the mother of the twins was told that I was having fertility issues and offered to be an egg donor. She's 27 and with twins obviously has no fertility problems. I don't know her that well so I feel like it's too huge an offer to accept but another part of me wants to. Do you think I should maybe let her know what's involved to see if she's prepared to go through with it?


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Totally go for it Tulip. Have a chat about what's involved then give her time to seriously consider. I'd go in thinking that she won't go through with it to avoid disappointment - does that make sense. A friend offered to be our sperm donor but we decided anon was better for us. You'd be surprised at who and how many people would offer if they knew what ppl like us are going through. We had a few guys offer once they knew our issues. If my situation was different I would totally donate eggs especially having experienced all that I have and I think people who offer genuinely just want to help someone else.
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Thanks BC. It wouldn't be until next year that we may need an egg donor but if I let her know now what's involved and if she does back out then at least I don't spend the next few months thinking she's an option.



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Wow tulip what an offer! Definitely worth looking into id say! I would do that in a heartbeat if I could..
So today my one friend was going on on fb about how shes going on maternity leave in 3 days, another friend announced her pregnancy and another is constantly complaining how tired pregnancy is for her right now. Boo hoo to her. Im sorry thats really stink of me but its how im feeling right now, I feel awful im becoming this person..im happy for my friends, esp the newly pregnant one, but I cant help but think its all just so so unfair.yet I dont have the desire to even try anymore.. I know you guys understand. Am wondering if its just worth it to make a private appointment with fert plus and get the ball rolling..just to give me something to look towards..though it might just be a matter of a few weeks in it to go publicly. I just really hope my appointment is soon and I can at least have something to look towards..never again I tell ya..one more baby then thats it. A large family is not worth my sanity anymore!
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Phew Soda that's some full on times on FB. Totally get it hun!

I say just book the appointment and get it done (if you can afford it). We did that for our first couple appts and were already well on the donor list, and had checked off some of the jobs on the list (that need doing before treatment) before I even got the public appointment. It was 5 mths from referral to public appointment. Best few hundred I ever spent. But for us we were in a position where we could afford to do that.
And I get your large family comment too....jeez I wanted 4 of the lil beggars but now I'm looking at settling for one (or begrudgingly 0 - urgh I hope not!).

Good on you Tulip. Definitely good to look into the option now and know where you stand.
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Yeah think ill ph them tomorrow.they are useless at answering the ph though, ive never had a real person answer and have to leave a msg..and working full time I cant answer my ph at work...but both times we have had success with clomid so all I want is a few rounds of that to keep us going before the next appointment... so annoying a gp cant just give me some!lol
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Yeah I get frustrated having to play phone tag soda. Same deal as you at work - I usually ring when I have a spare moment but leaving a msg sucks.
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Evening ladies, just thought I would let you all know that today we had the horrible dreaded phone call to let us know yet again our FET hasn't worked - not so 7th time lucky... So we are totally gutted as this was the last frozen embryo, and are now looking at having to pay for a 2nd private cycle, and I was just really really hoping this would be it - that it was FINALLY our time for some joy, excitement and good news!... I don't know how much more of this disappointment i can take!! Sorry to be a downer, just thought i'd share, as i know i think of you ladies lots... Hope everyone else is having a better week than me! xx
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Oh Charlie hun... im so so so sorry this wasnt your turn Cry im so gutted for you and had everything crossed this was it for you.. no words.. but lots of HUGS! xxxxxxx hoping 2015 is a better year- for all of us! 

im starting to wonder if my hormones are going wonky again... after my really depressed few days ( like, REALLY down..totally not like me to get that upset all the time!) today i feel much better and more positive again! and I had a weird bit of spotting which is totally bizarre. very very light, but i never get spotting randomly! so maybe somethings going on with my hormones again to make me all emotional? ah well, im feeling more steady today lol so thats gotta be a good thing! loving hubby right now, he phoned me from work asking if he was "needed" in the next two weeks.. i said yes ov is approaching, so he said "ok ill tell my boss i cant go away for 2 weeks then!" hed been asked to go down south for a couple of weeks from monday but said no, just so we can make babies! love that man Heart
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Awww Charlie I'm so sorry!!! That sucks butt.

Soda your bloke is awesome!!! I really hope you make one before Xmas comes.

AFM - hmm nothing to tell. Day 7 of pill popping feels like an age before my Fet -1.5 wks to go.
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Charlie-:( That is sad news. I hope 2015 is better too. When I feel down, sometimes getting something baby related keeps me positive. As if I am telling myself, it is okay, this will happen. I don't know if that will help.

I have been lurking the last few weeks, I have my first appointment as FA in two weeks now and I still haven't gone to get the bloods done beforehand. I went yesterday but they had sent the wrong forms through so now I need to go back again.

Tulip, I think you could suggest they get in touch with a donor coordinator to find out more. It is a huge thing to do but you undergo counselling and get lots of information so you can make an informed decision. It is something I have considered. However I have no eggs of my own at the moment.

My plan is to see if less training (I run lots and lots) and stress will help get my cycle back. If in six months nothing then I will look into getting some medical help. I have tried running less the last few weeks and gained four kilos this year but still no eggs :(

Babycrazy: Stick Baby Stick! I really hope you get good news for Christmas. I would be terrible at keeping a secret. How hard those 12 weeks must be for people? Sorry but with all the acronyms I can't keep up. Did you end up doing ICSI with a donor?

What is AF? What is Colorado Protocol?




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Hi Bambeana, thanks for your suggestion I didn't know there was a donor coordinator.

What a pain you were given the wrong blood forms, bit of a worry as you really don't need or want any slip ups like that. Less running might be a plan, you never know what will help, everything's worth a try.

I wish they had a link on this website for abbreviations.    I'm pretty sure AF is period. Colorado Protocol is particular medications given with IVF. My specialist prescribed it for me as I've had a couple of MC it involves taking steroids and antibiotics etc I guess to help prevent MC.

So sorry Charlie.

Soda your hubby sounds really supportive, my DF could take some lessons from him.

I gained a few kg's while taking IVF meds has anyone else had that problem?
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This is long but I found this:

AF     Aunt Flo — menstruation/period
AP     attachment parenting
BB or BBS     Internet bulletin board
BBC     BabyCenter
BBL     be back later
BBT     basal body temperature
BC     because, or birth control, or before children
BCPS     birth control pills
BD     baby dance (sex)
BF     breastfeed, or boyfriend
BFN     big fat negative (pregnancy test)
BFP     big fat positive (pregnancy test)
BIL     brother-in-law
BM     breast milk, or bowel movement
BRB     be right back
BTDT     been there, done that
BTW     by the way
CD     cycle day
CF     cervical fluid
CIO     cry it out
Circ.     circumcise
CM     cervical mucus
CWIM     see what I mean
CS or C/S     cesarean section
DC     daycare, dear child
DD     dear daughter
DF     dear fiancee
DH     dear husband
DP     dear partner
DPO     days past ovulation
DS     dear son
DSD     dear stepdaughter
DSS     dear stepson
DTD     do the deed
DW     dear wife
EBF     extended breastfeeding, exclusively breastfeeding
EBM     expressed breast milk
EDD     estimated due date, or expected date of delivery
EWCM     egg white cervical mucus
FF     formula feeding
FIL     father-in-law
FT     full time
FTM     first time mom
FTR     for the record
FWIW     for what it's worth
FYI     for your information
GOAT     Said when member has read all the previous responses before commenting
HPT     home pregnancy test
HIPPO     Said when a member is commenting without reading previous responses
HTH     hope this helps
IC     incompetent cervix
IMHO     in my humble opinion
IMO     in my opinion
IRL     in real life
ITA     I totally agree
IUI     intrauterine insemination
IVF     in vitro fertilization
JJ or J/J     just joking
JK or J/K     just kidding
JMHO     just my humble opinion, or just my honest opinion
KWIM     know what I mean
L&D     labor and delivery
LO     little one
LOL     laughing out loud
LP     luteal phase
MC or M/C     miscarriage
MIL     mother-in-law
ML     maternity leave
MM     mother's milk
MYOB     mind your own business
NMS     not my style
NMSAA     not my style at all
NP     no problem
O     ovulation
O'd     ovulated
OMG     oh my gosh, or oh my god
OP     original poster
OPK     ovulation predictor kit
OT     off topic
PG     pregnant, or pregnancy
POAS     pee on a stick (i.e. pregnancy test)
PP     previous poster
PPD     postpartum depression
RE     reproductive endocrinologist
ROFL     rolling on floor laughing
SAHD     stay-at-home dad
SAHM     stay-at-home mom
SAHP     stay-at-home parent
SD     sperm donor
SIL     sister-in-law
SO     significant other
TCOYF     Taking Charge of Your Fertility, by Toni Weschler
TIA     thanks in advance
TMI     too much information
TTC     trying to conceive
US or U/S     ultrasound
VBAC     vaginal birth after cesarean section
WAH     work at home
WOH     work out of the home
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Tulip, I have had dealing with the donor coordinator when I made inquiries about being an egg donor awhile ago. You get given lots of information and they do counselling with the donor and the couple.

Awhile ago, as in I thought that it was no big drama to get the eggs going and thought I would have some in egg-cess.

I believe the process is quite different for egg donors. Compared to sperm donors. Apart from the obvious difference that they would just put in "in a jar" whereas eggs are extracted.
I think it would be a beautiful thing to be a part of someone getting their BFP.

I know of someone who used a known donor and they explained it to their existing children as a special gift that was given to them by him so they could have another child. The donor lives in a different city so I think that helped -having some distance. They wrote a children's book about it, so you can help explain it to existing children and the child who was a result of the gift.

They live in Vancouver but I am interested in finding that book.

I don't know about the no running. It is making me cranky and that isn't conducive to a stress free environment. I started painting the orange feature wall in our room. I thought that could be a contributing factor.





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Just managed to catch up on where everyone's at, having a lovely lazy day today with my "fur baby" kitty curled up on my lap

nzvegie so happy for you! you made me lol when I read "messaries" - I'm not looking forward to that part

babycrazy good luck with this transfer, I really hope it works out for you

Charlie so sorry to hear that!

soda glad to hear you're feeling a bit better, it's such a roller coaster with all the hormones surging around. My cycle has been messed up with all the drugs this year, last month I was feeling really depressed and upset, and hubby asked if it was just PMS. I angrily told him it was 6 days too early for that but next day I had to tell him he was right, AF had arrived - my shortest ever cycle. Funny that he knows me better than I know myself but I was actually relieved to realize it was probably the hormones talking (or in this case crying)

I've been pleasantly surprised at how I've felt on the IVF meds, was expecting awful mood swings but so far so good. Have had lots of headaches but work understands so I've been coming home early most days for an afternoon nap with the cat :)

Trigger shot tonight then collection Monday morning. Feeling a bit apprehensive but if the drugs are anything like the ones I had when my wisdom teeth came out I probably won't even remember it! My estradiol yesterday was above 6000 and the clinic nurse today said I should read their info on overstimulation syndrome. Hoping I don't get it but not going to worry about it for now - just looking forward to getting on with collection
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Hey team. Sorry have read back but been away fundraising (the story of my life!).

Anyway.

Charlie I'm sorry this time didn't work out. Actually my heart breaks for hun. I know no word I type will make you feel better but know we are here for you.

Delphie - def read the ohss stuff. Have they mentioned freeze all if they collect heaps of eggs? With my first ivf I got 26 eggs and it was quite painful so was glad to not be putting anything back in straight away. I don't say that to scare you more prepare you!

Bambeana - Colorado is meds they give to prep body for best implantation and hopefully prevent miscarriage. Involves steroids to lower immunity, antibiotics incase of infection, Asprin to increase blood flow. I'm doing a manufactured cycle which means I take progynova 3x daily to override nature and build my lining up. They can then choose which day to transfer that way and means they can manage their workload better lol.

Speaking of manufactured cycles - anyone out there got some advice? I'm currently fighting a headache and possibly thrush. Do you think it's linked to the meds? Could just be over tired and maybe eating crap food though.

Thanks for all your good wishes - feels like time has slowed to a snails pace. Still a week and a half to transfer.
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BC - Antibiotics can give you thrush, as they kill off the good bacteria too. I'd really recommend eating plain unsweetened yoghurt each day and drinking cranberry to help your body with the negative effects of the antibiotics.
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Just found out my progesterone levels peaked too soon which means while we're still doing the egg collection Monday they (I hope, not "it"!) will be frozen, with the first transfer being in early January.

I'm disappointed at having to wait longer, but after 3 years what's another month? And if there was a chance of OHSS it's better not to get pregnant right away. Will be good to let the body recover from the IVF hormones. Looking on the bright side I'll be able to have a glass of bubbles (or 3) at Christmas too! It gives me extra time to get a whole bunch of DIY painting jobs completed too, without having to worry about the effect of paint fumes on an embryo. DH is disappointed, he told me he's been thinking about baby names today. It's hard not to get ahead of yourself!
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Thanks mushroom - haven't actually started antibiotics yet but will remember that for when I do cos I always get it with them.
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