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Dolly_
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Posted: 29 January 2015 at 1:46pm |
Thanks ht, that made me smile :)
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Posted: 29 January 2015 at 11:07pm |
That's great advice ht! And great to know I'm not the only one that always calls to chase up lol
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heavenly.talker
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Posted: 29 January 2015 at 11:23pm |
This month FA text me to say I had ovulated rather than phoning. It ended up causing them much more work as I text back asking for the number and then phoned them after I didn't hear back. I needed to know if we had all three follicles release and only the number would suggest that. 14dpo tomorrow, argh... I normally have a 16 day LP (but the HCG trigger has changed that making it a bit variable) so don't know if I will test. Will see how I feel in the morning. Back ache is gone and I have burning ovaries both sides and have been really tired after exercising today. Boobs can't make up their mind if they are doing something unusual although I have great high beam (don't normally achieve this as I have a flatter nipple).
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TTC our 3rd child 5+ yrs. Self-funding. Over 55 medicated cycles. 3 m/c's iuis, ivf with ICSI fresh BFN, 1 FET BFN. PCOS horrible. Endo and adhesions from c-sects resected. DH few wrigglers. FAITH!
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Posted: 29 January 2015 at 11:43pm |
Hopefully there are a few early preg signs in there ht! Must be frustrating not being able to sort out what is "normal" or a result of a preg or a result of the meds. Will you wait for af or do you test early? I'm too impatient, but I also have a good connection for getting free hpts (a blessing and a curse! ).
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heavenly.talker
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Posted: 30 January 2015 at 8:59am |
I tested this morning. BFN. Stink. Now I wait another 2-5 days for the progesterone to jettison so AF can come. Temp is still up but the reality is even with a late implantation most people would have a positive test if there was a positive test to be had already. I am interested to see what specialist will recommend for coming cycle... hopefully we escalate.
Have a lovely y'all xxx
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Posted: 30 January 2015 at 12:49pm |
Rats ht, that's disappointing. Might just be too early though? By escalate do you mean up the clomiphene dose?
I just called FA again and did get through to the lab this time but they didn't have authorisation to tell me! So my partner called back but he didn't ask as many questions as I would have, haha. Anyway the upshot is that his morphology is 5% normal - so the lower end of the 'normal' range but still fine, so that's good.
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Posted: 30 January 2015 at 1:18pm |
We upped dose last month and have been on the triggered clomid rounds for three months (before that it operation and before that it was untriggered clomid cycles and before that different specialist, etc., etc. ). I wonder if our current specialist will now choose to go for IUI? Hubby hasn't had a sperm test, I really hope his swimmers are still doing their thing. I have him on menevit to help ensure they can go the distance :-).
Wouldn't it be lovely if I had a late implantation and so just wasn't testing positive yet :-)... Awww going to keep that as my positive thought today :-). Faith and resilience, cornerstones of every fertility journey. Surely multiples would be showing though now... don't go there just focus on it isn't over until AF shows ;-) Great news about DH's morphology being 'normal' Dolly, phew one list thing to contend with :-).
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TTC our 3rd child 5+ yrs. Self-funding. Over 55 medicated cycles. 3 m/c's iuis, ivf with ICSI fresh BFN, 1 FET BFN. PCOS horrible. Endo and adhesions from c-sects resected. DH few wrigglers. FAITH!
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Posted: 30 January 2015 at 2:21pm |
Yep, although I think he was hoping for more like 'extraordinary' haha!
What are you using for the trigger ht? My specialist has floated the idea of using Clomiphene + Pregnyl but he didn't overwhelm me with his optimism ;)
Keep thinking positive - it ain't over! Like Dory says, "just keep swimming..." x
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Posted: 30 January 2015 at 7:51pm |
Ovidrel I think :-)
just keep swimming for sure lol... same to your DH ;-)
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Posted: 30 January 2015 at 9:24pm |
Sorry to hear of a bfn HT. Just can't get a break huh. Although I hope perhaps it's just slow going. X
Dolly good news on the testing.
Hey to everyone else xx Nadda to report here. Yay for the weekend lol and another three day week for me thanks to my FA appt.
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Posted: 30 January 2015 at 9:43pm |
Hi all. Lots of posts on here over the last few days. Hope everyone is doing the best they can and moving forward with things. We have booked in ivf for June and I must say making the decision to go for it has taken a huge wait off our shoulders. What will be will be. From what I am reading there may be a few of you ladies doing ivf with FA in chch in June/July? I'm learning a lot about the process from all of your posts - it's been very helpful! Good luck to everyone out there xx
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Posted: 30 January 2015 at 10:34pm |
Welcome Rosey. Ya, lots of people doing IVF in here in June/July. Not too sure how many are in Chch. I'm in Auckland. Stink about the BFN HT It isn't over until the wicked witch shows up though! Dolly, good that the morphology result was in the normal range...one more thing not to worry about! I think all guys hope their, um, "result" is off the charts. My brother in law supposedly had a super dooper, off-the-chart good result (so he says anyway!), and DH was slightly disappointed when his was only just "normal" in comparison. I'll take normal any day though! Star, going back to the chasing up calls thing... you really gotta check things are correct on forms, etc too. We've already had FOUR stuff ups from our clinic. 1) the letter from our specialist had written that my genetic problem was with the wrong set of genes (makes a HUGE difference!) and it took three different occasions of me pointing it out before he accepted it 2) nurse ticked the wrong box for a blood test but i managed to convince the lab to do the right one anyway 3) same thing... nurse didn't tick the box for a certain blood test for DH and he had to do another draw to get it. 4) they never sent us a single bill after a whole year of seeing them privately. Even when I questioned it, they tried to tell me I was wrong... then I got a bill albeit $750 less than what it should have been, but I've stopped arguing for them to take my money. Haha. So... ya, make sure you are informed yourself and double check and question everything. Gosh, typing that out right now makes me question the clinic a bit. But I guess everyone is human! And goodness knows today alone I missed a few small things at work today and need to go back over it.
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Posted: 31 January 2015 at 9:46am |
Hey everyone, hope you're all doing well despite the circumstances!
Some of you may recognise my name but I've been pretty slack only coming on once every few months!
I've been trying to focus on other things but TTC is never far from my mind! Meanwhile more of my friends have conceived and had their bundles.
I've got a follow up appointment at the fertility clinic in Wgtn Hosp nxt week. Considering the info that I've put below, can you guys give me any advice? I'm wondering whether to accept the fact that they're going to get me to do three more rounds of clomid, or push for the next step?
Would that be IUI? And if it is, do you still take drugs with that?
I did 4 rounds of clomid at 50 and then I broke the rules and missed a month, taking 100 the next month when I wasn't supposed to. Only the 100 actually increased my LP to a normal length, but man it turned me into a raging crazy lady!
TIA for your responses. Rach
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Posted: 31 January 2015 at 10:44am |
Rach!!! Long time no see hun xxx great to hear from you. I've never had clomid so don't know but I'd push for the next step and honestly I'd ask them seriously about whether they think iui will actually work. You're better to use any funding for ivf in my opinion. Iui was supposedly meant to be the magic trick since sperm was our only issue but not a dot of anything worked there. And well ivf hasn't exactly been successful as yet. I now wish we'd just gone ivf and paid for iui while we waited. Anywho that's just my thoughts.
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Posted: 31 January 2015 at 10:51am |
Thanks BC, definitely something to consider for us, would be good to be working our way up the list while trying IUI in case nothing happens there.
Hope you get to try IVF again soon. I was gutted to read about your mc after all you've been through! hope the wait goes quick and is worth it x
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Posted: 31 January 2015 at 2:56pm |
Thanks for the tip a.girl - I will be checking all paperwork very carefully from here on in. Sounds like you have been incredibly patient with your clinic! I mean seriously you don't pay the experts good money to stuff up the small stuff like ticking the wrong boxes - one small mistake is understandable but four times?! I would have been spitting tacks!
I think I am learning that one of the frustrations in this journey is that you have no choice but to rely on the clinics and they don't always get it right. Even going private you're paying for a service but you don't always get the level of service you should. I'm sure it's not the fault of the people working in the clinics - delays and mistakes are inevitable when resources are stretched - but it's bloody frustrating. And it's not like with a restaurant where you can just leave and go to the one next door if the service is rubbish!
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Posted: 31 January 2015 at 3:08pm |
Ok enough ranting from me. I have a question, is anyone able to give me a run down on what to expect with clomid? I am starting first cycle soon, 50mg, monitored cycle. Does it give you a perfectly regular 28 day cycle? How often do you do blood tests leading up to ov? Do they tell you when ov is about to happen? Did you get any side affects & if so when? TIA
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Posted: 31 January 2015 at 3:39pm |
Star - clomid cycles you take the 5 tablets from day 2-7, then wait. Generally there is a blood test day 10, and depending on what hormones levels show you either go in for another blood test a few days later, or a scan. For me, I didn't ovulate until around day 18, so had 3 bloods tests and a scan. After you have the scan they send a txt to say when to have sex - generally 'if possible have intercourse for 3 days starting on xxx' sort of thing. Then you have another blood test 3-7 days after they think you will ovulate to confirm it actually happened, and you get a txt saying that you did (or didn't), and that you should check back with them when you get AF, or if you get to 14 days post-ov to check for pregnancy.
So, nope, not 28 day cycles - depends on how you respond to drugs (I had a 18 day luteal phase for one cycle too!), at least 2 blood tests, maybe more. Side-effects vary again - last time I was on it I had HUGE anger management issues with mood swings that just made me see red - I had to sit quietly in my room a lot so I didn't spend the time screaming at poor hubby... Worst side effects went away post-ov, but more hormonal than usual all up for me. Generally just make sure hubby knows hormones might be bad, and to remember it's just the drugs talking if you are not yourself.
Rach - if you've been on 4 monitored cycles where they have confirmed ov, I don't see the point in doing any more. If they weren't monitored, then I really don't see the point in doing them - only way I'd do unmonitored is if I knew it worked from previous cycles, and just wanted to do a couple more. Would def ask about where you stand with public funding eligibility etc, and figure out what you're happy with. My experience is that if you express a strong desire to keep going or move forward they are generally happy to go with the flow at your stage.
HT - sorry about BFN - I hate those tests :(
AFM, day 1 today! So pretty much my standard 16 luteal phase, with a 38 day cycle! (Yay under 40!!). Sucks I can't get pregnant even so, but at least I know the better my system is in normal working order the better my odds are with IVF later this year... Was explaining the process to my sister today- think I rather put her off the whole egg collection thing lol - good thing she doesn't have to do it!
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Posted: 31 January 2015 at 6:57pm |
Rach I didn't realise it was against the rules to miss a month on clomid? I take it somewhat intermittently depending on whether I feel up to it! I've been on 100 to lengthen my LP too. My doctors haven't been particularly positive about IUI but that's probably because my endo is pretty bad.
Star, my partner calls them 'The Crazy Pills'! I tend to get quite emotional on them... some months are definitely worse than others though.
Day 27 for me, 12DPO on a non-clomid month (usually 10-11), so just waiting, waiting... Received lab bill from FA today - Customer service note to FA - Maybe send the results at the same time or before the bill??! No?
Rosey good to hear you've got a plan! Makes a huge difference to the state of mind I'm sure. So you decided to pay privately? I'll be in in IVF team June-July, so might see you there!
BC when is your appt with FA? All the best for that.
How are you getting on HT?
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Posted: 31 January 2015 at 8:53pm |
Hi all Clomid advice... take your pill last thing before you go to bed. That will mitigate many of the side effects (headache, clammy, hormone surge, etc). Keep up the water. Mushroom described the process perfectly. I now take cd3-8 (doc decides when). I have never had to get multiple blood tests as I have always got a ready to fire result from the cd10 blood test. They book me in for a scan the next day and while there I also get my HCG trigger shot. My p4 test results are normally really strong (high progesterone result) which means my LP draws out until the body can dump all the progesterone so I can get my period. Great news about clomid is that if you get heavy periods, it makes them lighter and shorter! If you have 'normal' periods then this can make your lining less inviting for an egg to implant into. If your normal is ovary twinges and pressure then expect to feel much more.
I'm 15dpo today Dolly, I haven't tested again... no point really. I have been tired, off colour, eating more, and boobs are a bit twingy. My theory is that my progesterone levels are dropping back into the progesterone symptoms realm so AF will be in here in 2-4 days. If nothing has happened by Wednesday I will test again.
Rachfizz! Yay, lovely to have you check in. I'm so glad that you are progressing with your treatment. I can't wait for you to get your happy news.
Great about the 16 LP mushroom :-) I hope your cycles are now all settled again.
Hugs to all :-) Hi to newbies and special love to the veterans xx
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