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Hi ladies... Im half hearted stepping in here! (had a d&c for m/c 11 last month) desperate for another baby but unsure how long we can keep going with the miscarriages, but I look forward to following & supporting others in their journeys!
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Awww lucky. I was pregnant sMe time as you and also had a miscarriage shortly after you did. I was going to ask you if you have had testing etc and have thy ever found anything

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Hey Talz, I'm sorry to hear that, but you blow off as much steam as you need to! Sometimes there's nothing anyone can say to make it feel better, I'm sending you a cyberhug. xx

Most of you here are further along than me in the journey, I'm not up to the TTC again phase, but I'm avidly reading about all the different ways the body responds to mc, and gets past it. On one hand it's reassuring to know that every woman is different and there's no rulebook for how the body recovers, so what happened to one person might not happen to me...but therefore the opposite is just as true, just because one person had such-and-such experience, doesn't mean I will too.

I was quite looking forward to seeing my GP this morning but because I'm still bleeding she said wait till next week. I wonder, if you mc naturally and bleed for several days, what are the chances you'll still need a D&C?

NzVeggie, you said in an earlier post that you're supposed to be more fertile after mc, is that true?
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I bleed/spotted for a week after my natural mc. I tested four weeks after and made sure I got a bfn. Supposedly the 6 months after a mc you are more fertile. I got my bfp 3 cycles after and am now 20w so worked for me.

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Mama - when I had my natural mc, I spotted for a week before I properly lost bubs, had the one bad day until I passed the placenta, then bled for 5 days, like a short period. If you're still bleeding after a week I'd get it looked at.

Regarding fertility after mc, studies show there is no apparent reason for waiting. In one study the probability of having a successful pregnancy was higher with those who got pregnant again within 3 mths than those who got pregnant 6+ mths later, though personally I feel it's probably more a reflection of that fact that people who can get pregnant easily are more likely to have a successful pregnancy than those who can't due to various factors (on average).
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Aww Talz, I'm really sorry. I know what it feels like to have that EDD looming and being 'negative months pregnant'. And so frustrating when there's no clear reason for why there's no new pregnancy to help get through that tough milestone - I feel the same way about my EDD in early Nov, believing that being UTD again by then will make it a little easier to bear. Did your doc say anything about doing any blood testing when you saw them last? I saw my doc today (2 weeks after my CP) coz she only just got back from leave and missed that 'episode'. She sent me for a blood test to check my FSH and LH today (coz I told her I got a positive OPK last night) and then I have another referral for a blood test to check my progesterone next week (coz it's meant to be highest around CD21). Then I have a third referral to check thyroid function, oestrogen, FSH, LH and phospholipids on CD2 - she suggested we not try this month, to give things time to settle down and so we can see the results of these tests, but she also said it's up to us and I think we'll still BD this week and see how we go. I would fret too much about "wasting a cycle" if we didn't really try, but I also kinda wanna do these tests on CD2. She seemed confident it's just down to 'bad recipes' and pure bad luck and I want to believe her, but it does feel good to be doing some proactive testing just so we can rule some things out and the bad recipes/luck theory can be proven even more.
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awww NZVeggie, so sorry to see you have had another loss as well :( (I didn't stick around the thread after the latest miscarriage, as just didn't feel able to but had hoped you -and the others had a better outcome
Edited to add- Yep have had all testing done & there are a few minor things, but nothing concrete so were lumped in the 'unexplained' category which really sucks!

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Thanks for the support ladies. Stupid up and down hormones they really get to ya!

Rin I did get HCG beta tests done after my chem last month to make sure at zero but that was it. The doctor (who isn't my GP) said to keep with the iron and folic acid and give it 1-2 more months then come back. He couldn't see any reason not to get preg he said I'm 'obviously' fertile as I have conceived three times now (first time successfully with DS, second with my MMC and third with chem). He did mention how we seem to put all our focus on ourselves and forget our man plays a part too. In relation to sperm health and quality, he did say how stress and sickness can affect them. He said with a cold a guys count can take up to 3 months to be back to his 'normal'. So maybe they're just going around in circles?! I'll give it one more cycle before I go back. Hopefully don't need to! DH is just about at 'give up' point where he's like 'I don't think I want anymore kids" and "there will be a too big an age gap now" so he's almost happy to settle with DS. I mean I'm so grateful to have him, but I would love a sibling or two for him! I'm from a biggish family (1 of 4 kids) and love having my brothers. And I guess I'm not ready to settle down with one. My maternal 'instincts'(if that's what you call it?) make he feel like I need more children. I'm not done yet or satisfied.
Sorry for my little rant there I do seem to get carried away!

Also Rin, if I were you I'd still feel like BDing and not 'waste' the cycle too! Be interesting to see the results though. I guess when I do go back to doctor (have no optimism obviously that I won't need go go back) I will prob go through same type of tests?

Lucky mama I'm real sorry you too endured mc again :( it's heartbreaking and can only imagine how you're feeling about wondering if you can go through any more. I do hope you never have to go through that again, but do get your rainbow xx

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Lucky - bummer about unexplained. That's me too. I haven't got results of the karyotyping or 3D ultrasound yet. But all other ultrasounds have been normal and all other tests too. Reading the research though, higher chance of success if no cause is found! So I guess that's the good thing. Hard knowing that it's just rolling the dice every time though. I'm seeing a specialist in 2 weeks to discuss plan for future pregnancies but apart from progesterone support I don't think there is anything they can offer me and whether that's of any benefit is still debatable!

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Lucky I really feel for you.. ive had one mc which was heartbreaking enough, let alone 11... I truly hope you get your bubba soon xxx
Afm weird temp dip yesterday and its come right back up today! Pleeeeease be an implantation dip! !! Obsessy obsessy obsessy time! Bahaha. Never had this before tho.. then again I havent ever had a cycle like this at all..1st full cycle post mc, 1st cycle oving without clomid or metformin...so actually, I havent a clue whats "normal" for me! Lol. After close to 5 years of charting youd think id have a clue lol but nup!

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Oh Talz sorry I didn't see this earlier, that really sucks.
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Feeling pretty down today, I wish I hadn't come into work (probably shouldn't be messing around in this forum while supposed to be working, but hey!). Nothing particular has happenend I just woke up feeling kind of sad and the feeling's stayed with me all day. I've got a colleague's leaving drinks tonight which I don't really feel like going to and then over the weekend I'm seeing two friends whom I had told I was pregnant about a week ago. So they're getting ready to congratulate me and I'm getting ready to tell them it ain't happening.

Gah, going to try to be positive now
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Hi Everyone!!!!    I'm back in action now after a month of absence! I hope you are all doing well and in the process of making a rainbow baby to celebrate soon. Welcome to all the newbies. I'm sorry to hear about what has brought you here, but I'm glad you can find support in this forum. The journey is such a unique and difficult one, but I'm sure that this lovely bunch of ladies will help you get over those hurdles. It's been a year now since I've been posting in this forum and still find the support an integral part of my journey.

Nothing new for me. We didn't make our American baby. So on to month number 4 since the mc No word from the specialist about getting on the IVF waiting list yet. I think I'll try to give him a ring next week.

Sorry that I can't comment on where everyone is at... I'll do my best to keep up better. I miss you girls!
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Welcome back a.girl! Sorry you didn't make your American baby as planned. But it's nice to have you back in the forum all the same   

Fingers crossed for that being an implantation dip Soda! I'm kinda the same in terms of not really knowing what's 'normal' for me - was on the pill constantly for nearly 12 years and was oblivious to everything about my cycles during that time, so it's been a steep learning curve since coming off it late last year. Reproductive Health 101

Sorry to hear you're having a down day Mama. My suggestion would be to do something really self-indulgent this weekend - something really nice, just for you.

Got my first blood test results back today - just tested LH & FSH for the first one...and results show I am mid-cycle...which I already knew. Progesterone test in a week's time will be the one I'm interested to know the result of.
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Awww mama hope you've picked up and feeling better as day progressed. You're going to find it such a roller coaster! I still do go up and down a lot! Huge hugs.

A.girl welcome back! We missed you too. I'm sorry you didn't make that American bub :( where are you at in the current cycle? I'm still trying, trying, trying and getting nowhere either!

Rin I was like that too, was on pill for 11 years. Then came off and TTC #1 which got preg second cycle with DS. Then my cycle since him has changed again since my mc! I used to have 3 days max of a period and was really light/med flow. Since my mc I've had 2-3 days heavy, 1 more day light, then it stops completely then comes back light a again the following day and spots randomly up until just before OV! So changed a lot!

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Oh mama :( I had a lot of days like that where I just felt sad. It's a tough road but my partners mum said the only way to get through it is to go through it and she's right. Just do whatever you need to to cope...a lovely treat for yourself is a great idea even if its just a hot chocolate and a few good mags while cosy on the couch. Could you pre-warn your gfs about what's happened so they don't come in over the top excited? Xx

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hugs mama! xxxx it takes time and some days are a lot worse than others.. youll get there xxxx just be kind to yourself and take time out just for you when you need to. and dont bottle the feelings up- have a good cry and let it out. we are all here for you xx I agree with pre-warning the girls- can you let one of them know to spread the work to the others? so you only have to say/txt it once and then they all know. better than them all coming around super excited then you having to tell them.. 
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off to a mid winter dinner at a friends tomorrow- there will be about 20 of us, and i will have to not look suss with my not-drinking all night. at least ill be sober driver and can use my headcold as an excuse..  today at the supermarket my DD said completely out of the blue "i think we should call the baby Archie (said "Ouchie" lol cute) - like my friends baby Archie...and you have twins mum ok?" * cue spooky music*  that kid gets the weirdest ideas! we havent talked about the baby or anything in a long time and right in the yoghurt isle she comes up with that pearler! lol (secretly hoping shes right...)
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How are all you ladies doing?

Soda I hope your daughter was right too!!

Hopefully your daughter has better premonitions than my friend! I have 2 of my best friends living in Australia both in different places of outback qld so don't hear from them a lot due to internet issues etc. anyway one of the rung me last week and one of the first things she said was "how's the pregnancy going?" I was like ummmm what pregnancy? I'm not pregnant (I was in the TWW though) but I wish I was! And she was like oh I'm so sorry! She said oh maybe it was XXXX that is pregnant again?(my other bestie in oz) I was like oh I don't know but I hope so. And she was like really, well maybe you should do a pregnancy test?! And saying she had a 'feeling' I was preg then. But two days later AF came bugger it! Soi do hope your daughter is more in tune with you and right Soda!!

Your chart looks good too soda, hopefully it was an implantation dip?

I had a good chat to DH yesterday, and he was a bit gutted last month was a no-go too.but we are both hoping this month will be better as less stressed with 'life and work' issues in general. It's going to be a tough month anyway as my angels EDD is 19th and DHs brothers 10yrs since committed suicide and died on 20th aug. So tough times.on a happier note, our sons 2nd birthday is 6th aug. Right about ovulation time, so hopefully we can celebrate his birthday in more ways than one Will give it this cycle anyway and if nothing worked we are back at docs as per his recommendation.

Hope everyone is ok? Hugs to those that need one, and my fingers are crossed for those at the TTC stages. X

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You're so right Mac, the only way to get through it is to get through it. I did pre-warn my friend, that was good advice. I had a good bawl as I was typing the text and then was in better shape to be social. It meant I could go to her place to visit and not be nervous about making this big scene. She was so supportive and I was glad I visited in the end.

I'm having a better day today, the bleeding has really slowed down to miniscule so hopefully when I see my GP next week she gives me the all clear.

Soda that is so cute, I bet your daughter's right! Talz my fingers are crossed for you and your man this month, look after each other. xx


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That's great news mama, it's so refreshing sometimes having a good cry & being able to talk to a friend who's understanding and caring. You will continue to have bad days but eventually over the weeks and months they'll become fewer x
Talz I'm really hoping this is your month....your sons bday will be a ray of sun in a really tough month coming up :( big hugs x
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