https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sat, 04 Apr 2026 22:30:32 +0000 Wed, 22 Aug 2007 22:28:36 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.05 360 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=10046 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_images/web_wiz_forums.png https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/ https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=201476&title=mr-tired-grumpy#201476 Author: Peace
Subject: 10046
Posted: 22 August 2007 at 10:28pm

You need to add more to the happy list.
You can breathe, you have tits (albeit on your sexy wife rather than your own body), you can spell, use punctuation (although I prefer COMMAS RATHER THAN FULL STOPS! and maybe a lot less caps...). You have a roof over your head, 2 working legs and arms, fingers to type with, a board of chattering women, the ability to sleep, the ability to call yourself a man (and a man with tits! albeit on your sexy wife) and take yourself seriously as a man, the ability to breath life into another persons body, someone you can hold close, people to complain about that aren't yourself, someone else's problems that you can respond to in a forum like this one, honesty, a sense of justice and fairness. You can call yourself a depressed perfectionist, convey words and expression through the master of time and space that is this compendium of the internet and at the end of it all you have...

Some rather large woman sitting at her keyboard cheering you and your sexy wife on
Don't stop the magic!]]> Wed, 22 Aug 2007 22:28:36 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=201476&title=mr-tired-grumpy#201476 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=201447&title=mr-tired-grumpy#201447 Author: fattartsrock
Subject: 10046
Posted: 22 August 2007 at 9:53pm

Chovynz wrote: fleury wrote: Removed - Sorry wasn't meant to cause offence. I just want to clear something up. Your post didn't cause me any offense whatsoever. I appreciated your viewpoint and I actually got something out of it. Don't be afraid of saying something that might cause offense, as that is just stifling communication, and THAT is something you dont want to do or live with. And hey! lookit the discussion it raised

It wasn't offensive per se. Your opinion is respected and valued, and you are entitled to have one and post it just like everyone else!]]> Wed, 22 Aug 2007 21:53:01 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=201447&title=mr-tired-grumpy#201447 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=201309&title=mr-tired-grumpy#201309 Author: Chovynz
Subject: 10046
Posted: 22 August 2007 at 7:10pm

fleury wrote: Removed - Sorry wasn't meant to cause offence.

I just want to clear something up. Your post didn't cause me any offense whatsoever. I appreciated your viewpoint and I actually got something out of it. Don't be afraid of saying something that might cause offense, as that is just stifling communication, and THAT is something you dont want to do or live with.

And hey! lookit the discussion it raised

Edited by Chovynz]]> Wed, 22 Aug 2007 19:10:24 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=201309&title=mr-tired-grumpy#201309 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=201234&title=mr-tired-grumpy#201234 Author: mum2paris
Subject: 10046
Posted: 22 August 2007 at 5:15pm

lol that is seriously funny.

]]> Wed, 22 Aug 2007 17:15:03 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=201234&title=mr-tired-grumpy#201234 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=200942&title=mr-tired-grumpy#200942 Author: Maya
Subject: 10046
Posted: 22 August 2007 at 11:54am

kezplanet wrote: Something randomly creative uummm, pop into a $2 shop on the way home & pick up a tiara & magic wand and wear them when you walk in the house - pretend to be the fairygodfather and grant some small wishes for the girls

Loving it, that is seriously a great idea! I might just help myself to a wand and tiara from the multitudes in Maya's dressup box and wear it when I go to pick her up from preschool ]]> Wed, 22 Aug 2007 11:54:28 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=200942&title=mr-tired-grumpy#200942 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=200928&title=mr-tired-grumpy#200928 Author: minik8e
Subject: 10046
Posted: 22 August 2007 at 11:39am

I agree completely with Janine on this one!!]]> Wed, 22 Aug 2007 11:39:13 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=200928&title=mr-tired-grumpy#200928 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=200905&title=mr-tired-grumpy#200905 Author: mum2paris
Subject: 10046
Posted: 22 August 2007 at 11:17am

Aww you two are so awesome together to each other.

lol, chovy.. it's good to have someone that acts as a compliment to you. Me and mike seem to be the same, i mean we aren't always complete opposites theres plenty of middle-time, but it's nice to know if i'm having a bad day he's usually there to set me straight, and vice versa. I think that's what helps things work in a partnership/marriage - the willingness to involve yourself completely, see the person for what they are and what they need without judgement, you and Teresa seem to have that so well.]]> Wed, 22 Aug 2007 11:17:17 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=200905&title=mr-tired-grumpy#200905 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=200752&title=mr-tired-grumpy#200752 Author: Chovynz
Subject: 10046
Posted: 21 August 2007 at 11:00pm

See, now that is only one of the reasons I married her.
She has been very instrumental in my healing/empowering/coming out of depression/whatever you want to call it.

The second reason i married her was she is stubborn and I needed someone just as strong as me on that point ]]> Tue, 21 Aug 2007 23:00:35 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=200752&title=mr-tired-grumpy#200752 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=200590&title=mr-tired-grumpy#200590 Author: busymum
Subject: 10046
Posted: 21 August 2007 at 7:02pm

If you want a little different perspective, I see it this way. Yep Chovy has suffered from depression in the past but he's doing pretty well now. Biggest prob is that he is overworked (and a perfectionist too ) and he has a lot hanging in the balance with work at the moment. So even though I wouldn't say he's depressed these days, he definitely is under stress and being tired makes things even worse

Still, I think you're doing great Babe and I love you! ]]> Tue, 21 Aug 2007 19:02:35 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=200590&title=mr-tired-grumpy#200590 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=200584&title=mr-tired-grumpy#200584 Author: Chovynz
Subject: 10046
Posted: 21 August 2007 at 6:44pm

nuttymama wrote: For those that don't or haven't had depression it's hard to understand why. Saying get over it is like telling a dead person to simply start breathing again...

Well there was this one guy... And i know of a few others too.

Thanks to all the other stuff and other replies from other people. It does help just to be able to say things and get them out.

Lol Hailstones. thanks.

Re: Depression

I was talking to a guy at a party (we'd just met) and was telling him about me in response to his questions. I went through a list of things that i was doing and had I.e 3 beautiful girls, a great job, graphic design job, good this blahblah that, blow my own trumpet etc... and at the end I told him i suffer from depression. I had just found out what it was, but didn't realise until someone explained the symptoms to me. I told them I had that! And since then I've recognised it to be in the family as well. I digress.

Anyway this guy i told that i suffer from it almost fell off his chair. He couldn't understand why with all the things i've accomplished and done and have why I was depressed. Looking back I can't either , but i was/am coming out of it.

Heh. Sidenote: I'm a perfectionist, depression sufferer, Hard on myself and others, and I have an amazing life but very easily get cynical. It's weird.



Edited by Chovynz]]> Tue, 21 Aug 2007 18:44:40 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=200584&title=mr-tired-grumpy#200584 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=200202&title=mr-tired-grumpy#200202 Author: hailstones
Subject: 10046
Posted: 21 August 2007 at 8:00am

fattartsrock wrote: Big hugs, Chovy. I think we women can all be a bit guily of sometimes just expecting you all to soldier on a bit and not stop to think that you guys feel overwhelmed sometimes as well. You are doing a great job. And as a fellow inmate of the crazy house, I have to say, it's great when people can be open about their battles with the black dog.

Yip I think you hit the nail on the head there, maybe we do just expect you to be soldiers and the 'strong' ones. Its great that you can come on here and talk about it, you may be stronger than you think - after all not all males could come onto a predominatly (OMG SP??) womens Forum and talk about the way they feel! But big ups to you for doing it!!!! I agree - go do something totally random, something you will enjoy.

Oh and BTW - I always enjoy reading your replies - you have a great sense of humor, and make me laugh with the things you say! And you can tell you are a great Dad and Partner! ]]> Tue, 21 Aug 2007 08:00:55 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=200202&title=mr-tired-grumpy#200202 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=200190&title=mr-tired-grumpy#200190 Author: nuttymama
Subject: 10046
Posted: 21 August 2007 at 7:01am

There is light at the end of the tunnel, it's just hard to find sometimes. Coming from someone who suffered depression and quite frequently felt like eeyore walking around with a big rain cloud above the head you will get there.

The fact that you made a list of the good as well as the bad shows that you are starting to deal with things, which is a big step in itself. All I can suggest is baby steps one day at a time and talk, talk, talk.

For those that don't or haven't had depression it's hard to understand why. Saying get over it is like telling a dead person to simply start breathing again. The best way to describe it is imagine drowning and every time your head gets near the surface so you can take a breath it gets pushed back down. You can faintly see the light at the surface but you can't get there no matter how hard you swim. That's how hopeless life feels when you have depression.

Well that's just my little insight.

Edited by nuttymama]]> Tue, 21 Aug 2007 07:01:04 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=200190&title=mr-tired-grumpy#200190 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=200184&title=mr-tired-grumpy#200184 Author: kezplanet
Subject: 10046
Posted: 21 August 2007 at 12:21am

PS. feel free to vent this is a place to get things off your chest not for judgment or comparison, hope things ease up for you soon]]> Tue, 21 Aug 2007 00:21:09 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=200184&title=mr-tired-grumpy#200184 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=200183&title=mr-tired-grumpy#200183 Author: kezplanet
Subject: 10046
Posted: 21 August 2007 at 12:02am

I like playstation but only have ps1, unfortunatly - or fortunatly- we havn't got any of the new games, I like them for destressing and just blogging out, this forum is a great help with that at times like this when the kids are in bed & I should be too but just want some alone/down/relaxing time.
I also agree that cleaning stuff can wait but it still adds to the stress & cuts into your couple time or it is left for one person to do & from your other posts you don't seem like the type to leave everything to Teresa, & your feelings for your DW and children are easy to pick up on in other posts also.

Pick me for being a part of that "crazy house" group, but just being able to tell someone takes some of the weight off the shoulders, good on you for sharing.

Something randomly creative uummm, pop into a $2 shop on the way home & pick up a tiara & magic wand and wear them when you walk in the house - pretend to be the fairygodfather and grant some small wishes for the girls - maybe leave that for Saturday morning, just remembered you arn't getting to see the girls during the week - maybe you could do the same for T - put a smile on her face hahaha ]]> Tue, 21 Aug 2007 00:02:59 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=200183&title=mr-tired-grumpy#200183 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=200178&title=mr-tired-grumpy#200178 Author: Chovynz
Subject: 10046
Posted: 20 August 2007 at 11:30pm

fleury wrote: Of all the bad things you have mentioned, they are all just fluff. Trust me anything that requires cleaning can wait. I don't like computer games or playstation either. You obviously don't know how lucky you really are, to have a lovely wife and 3 wonderful girls. Take a peak at the 'Pray for Alex' thread to help put everything into perspective. If you're tired and grumpy w a headache, take a panadol and go to bed. It will all be better in the morning. Your not Superman you know.

Mmm, ouch i agree. I was going to reply to this, but im just too tired. I will say this though - theres more, but the tough thing is its all happening at once, and i cant get them out of my head until they are dealt with.

And i do know im lucky/blessed to have Teresa and the kids. Theyre one of the things that are helping me.]]> Mon, 20 Aug 2007 23:30:06 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=200178&title=mr-tired-grumpy#200178 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=200177&title=mr-tired-grumpy#200177 Author: Chovynz
Subject: 10046
Posted: 20 August 2007 at 11:27pm

Ahaha. I haven't seen mr pumpkin for a while. is he ok?]]> Mon, 20 Aug 2007 23:27:43 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=200177&title=mr-tired-grumpy#200177 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=200172&title=mr-tired-grumpy#200172 Author: Bombshell
Subject: 10046
Posted: 20 August 2007 at 10:35pm

do a random thing - go give Teresa a great big hug and kiss and tell her she is the best thing that ever happened in your life...and do it quick before she reads this....

BTW i only came in here cause i thought you were calling for BSDH by that title.... ]]> Mon, 20 Aug 2007 22:35:28 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=200172&title=mr-tired-grumpy#200172 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=200138&title=mr-tired-grumpy#200138 Author: fattartsrock
Subject: 10046
Posted: 20 August 2007 at 9:45pm

fleury wrote: Of all the bad things you have mentioned, they are all just fluff. Trust me anything that requires cleaning can wait. I don't like computer games or playstation either. You obviously don't know how lucky you really are, to have a lovely wife and 3 wonderful girls. Take a peak at the 'Pray for Alex' thread to help put everything into perspective. If you're tired and grumpy w a headache, take a panadol and go to bed. It will all be better in the morning. Your not Superman you know.

Ouch. People who suffer from depression don't quite see it like that. It's not quite as simple as taking a panadol or just getting over yourself.]]> Mon, 20 Aug 2007 21:45:16 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=200138&title=mr-tired-grumpy#200138 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=200133&title=mr-tired-grumpy#200133 Author: caliandjack
Subject: 10046
Posted: 20 August 2007 at 9:39pm

Removed - Sorry wasn't meant to cause offence.

Edited by fleury]]> Mon, 20 Aug 2007 21:39:41 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=200133&title=mr-tired-grumpy#200133 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=200104&title=mr-tired-grumpy#200104 Author: mummy_becks
Subject: 10046
Posted: 20 August 2007 at 9:14pm

I know how Teresa feels my DH is suffering from depression at the moment. But hang in there. You should dye your hair that is being creative.]]> Mon, 20 Aug 2007 21:14:02 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=200104&title=mr-tired-grumpy#200104 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=200097&title=mr-tired-grumpy#200097 Author: aimeejoy
Subject: 10046
Posted: 20 August 2007 at 9:09pm

I am a great believer in a good nights sleep making everything better (or at least seem not so bad when you're not tired). ]]> Mon, 20 Aug 2007 21:09:22 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=200097&title=mr-tired-grumpy#200097 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=200085&title=mr-tired-grumpy#200085 Author: fattartsrock
Subject: 10046
Posted: 20 August 2007 at 8:58pm

Big hugs, Chovy. I think we women can all be a bit guily of sometimes just expecting you all to soldier on a bit and not stop to think that you guys feel overwhelmed sometimes as well. You are doing a great job. And as a fellow inmate of the crazy house, I have to say, it's great when people can be open about their battles with the black dog. ]]> Mon, 20 Aug 2007 20:58:25 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=200085&title=mr-tired-grumpy#200085 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=200079&title=mr-tired-grumpy#200079 Author: my2angels
Subject: 10046
Posted: 20 August 2007 at 8:52pm

something random...... hmmm get a tattoo, dye your hair (maybe a girl thing) peirce your .....fill in the gap (and no I dont mean IT, just something, anything) ewww reminds me, i had a friend who once did something random and peirced the bit between her boobs. she had a plastic rod about 3cm long inserted with at stud thing on each end, totally freaked me out. ]]> Mon, 20 Aug 2007 20:52:29 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=200079&title=mr-tired-grumpy#200079 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=200073&title=mr-tired-grumpy#200073 Author: my2angels
Subject: 10046
Posted: 20 August 2007 at 8:50pm

your brave, im to scared to list all the bad things happening atm. will have to focus on the good things.

when you say she 'thinks' your starting to come out if it does that mean in reality your not? ]]> Mon, 20 Aug 2007 20:50:03 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=200073&title=mr-tired-grumpy#200073 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=200062&title=mr-tired-grumpy#200062 Author: Chovynz
Subject: 10046
Posted: 20 August 2007 at 8:36pm

Did you know i suffered from depression the last few years and early this year? That was a hard time on Teresa and me. She thinks im starting / already started to come out of that.

Edited by Chovynz]]> Mon, 20 Aug 2007 20:36:01 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=200062&title=mr-tired-grumpy#200062 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=200058&title=mr-tired-grumpy#200058 Author: Chovynz
Subject: 10046
Posted: 20 August 2007 at 8:34pm

I feel like doing something randomly creatively off the wall.]]> Mon, 20 Aug 2007 20:34:56 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=200058&title=mr-tired-grumpy#200058 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=200055&title=mr-tired-grumpy#200055 Author: Chovynz
Subject: 10046
Posted: 20 August 2007 at 8:33pm

mmm
hard too focus on the good atm.

Edited by Chovynz]]> Mon, 20 Aug 2007 20:33:44 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=200055&title=mr-tired-grumpy#200055 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=200047&title=mr-tired-grumpy#200047 Author: MummyFreckle
Subject: 10046
Posted: 20 August 2007 at 8:25pm

Anytime Chovynz! Think we all have weeks / months like that sometimes! Hang in there - focus on the good things and the bad things will soon fade away! ]]> Mon, 20 Aug 2007 20:25:00 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=200047&title=mr-tired-grumpy#200047 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=200029&title=mr-tired-grumpy#200029 Author: Chovynz
Subject: 10046
Posted: 20 August 2007 at 7:50pm

Me.
bad things
I have too many things on. I'm tired and have a headache. My IL's have too many birthdays on this time of year, and im feeling tired just thinking about all those. My relationship with Dad isn't so great atm. I'm not getting to see the kids during the week. I have performance reviews coming out of my ears. My job deadline/review time is coming up. I have to go out tomorrow night. My cool BIL isn't here, and busymum doesn't like playstation. My garage is still a mess, as is my wardrobe and i haven't had a chance to clean them up. My computer games that i own don't do it for me anymore. I can't play the guitar as well as id like to. The printer is bunging up. The girls don't yet know how to put things away after themselves so T and I have to tidy up the lounge everyday. I have too much stuff in my head from work. Briona played with my mp3 player this morning and when i turned it on i found it had been already recording for 30mins beforehand.

Good things.
There are no weeds in my rose garden, after 8 weeks from laying down mulch mat under the stones. Krissi is cute. Busymum is sexy. My desk is still here. My router works properly for a change. I caught up with my best friend about a week ago - after about 8 months of not knowing if he was still my best friend. I'm alive. We have food in the fridge. In fact we have two fizzy bottles in our fridge - oops i mean 1. I'm learning lots at my work. I finished a large project today at work. I'm about to finish two things at home. The fluffy frog on my computer is still smiling. My car is working great.

Thanks for listening.]]> Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:50:06 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10046&PID=200029&title=mr-tired-grumpy#200029