Chovynz wrote: One thing (a deeply profound statement by my beloved). Christianity isn't something that can be argued. It's something that can only be known and believed. Or not believed. Again, it's your choice.

I love this this is so true. 

Wow this topic just keep's going on and on it is so good to have this kind of siscussion without it turning into an argument.

Glow wrote: FORGIVENESS "Bitterness and an unforgiving spirit can be likened to you taking poison and expecting that someone else would die from the effect. Forgiveness is about setting the prisoner in your heart free only to discover that all along, you had been the real prisoner." -- 'Tope Popoola "To forgive is the highest, most beautiful form of love. In return, you will receive untold peace and happiness." -- Robert Muller "One of the secrets of a long and fruitful life is to forgive everybody everything every night before you go to bed." -- Bernard Baruch "We are supposed to forgive everyone; everyone includes ourselves." -- Denis Waitley

I love these quote's they are so true.

Ok so I can't help, but put my 2 cent's worth in here alot of people have already summed up eveything so well.  I am a christain I believe there is a God and he a loving just God.  I believe he sent is son Jesus to save us.  I guess for me from a personal level I can't not believe becasue I have seen his hand on my life in so many way's.  When eveything around me is falling down I know that he stand's with me.  I believe the bible and everything in it is inspired by God.  I truely believe if I was not a christan I would not be here today he saved me from me i guess would be a way to put it.    I agree with chovynz I can't stand hypycroyt's(SP?) who claim to be one thing then go on living a completly differnt way.  I am not into raming my belief's down people throat's I want to be a living example of Christ to the world   just to add I am not claiming to be like Christ I am only a person I am and will never be perfect like Christ himself., but the thing I aim for is to alway's walk in love and except people for who they are.  Help where I can be that helping meet a physical need or an emtional one.  I guess I want people to see what God has done in my life and let them know they can have that too.

Right that's me hope my rambling not put anyone to seep.  I guess i don't know the bible as well as some.

cuppatea wrote: So what about people who are brought up being taught to worship a different god, are they condemned because of where they were born. They have not chosen to ignore him. Again why would he allow people to worship false idols? seems grossly unfair that the vast majority of the planet grow up worshipping someone entirely differently.

• God wants people to worhsip Him alone. He knows who he is.


• He isn't going to force you to do so.


• When you worship Him, He doesn't want to you to give up your culture.Too many people try to make other people do things "this way or that way" when they are doing things quite fine the way they were


• Western world has tried to force people to worship God, the same way they do. Specific examples I can think of are the victorian schools, most 'christian' denominations, etcetc. They are trying to do the best they can in telling people about God, but they have damaging side-effects when they dont understand cultures.

Glow wrote: Because of the intense personal feelings we attach to our religious expressions & beliefs..

Thank you to both of you for explaining it and explaining it so someone like me can understand it. Even thou I did Sunday School and Bible Study I never got to grips with it and you have explained it so clearly to me.

I beleive in ghosts but don't believe that these Medium people can actually contact them - seen too much of that crossing over with John Edwards on Sky and don't think he is doing a very good job. Also afterlife I believe that we do go on to be something else. Karma is also something else I believe.

I believe there is a god out there and have been baptisted an Angilican (my choice).