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   <title><![CDATA[Okay VBA2Cs!! : YAYYAYAYAYYAYAYAYYYYYYYYY!!!!...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10273">Two Blondinis</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 27 May 2008 at 8:09pm<br /><br />YAYYAYAYAYYAYAYAYYYYYYYYY!!!!  <br />I was really hoping you would get your dream birth experience awww and a little girl <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />Congrats girl, you deserve it <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley10.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Okay VBA2Cs!! : Yay that&amp;#039;s such great news....]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17802">Bobbie</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 26 May 2008 at 10:33pm<br /><br />Yay that's such great news. It sounds like a fantastic birth <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Okay VBA2Cs!! : huge congrats toni!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=993">jack_&_charli</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 26 May 2008 at 10:23pm<br /><br />huge congrats toni!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley10.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley10.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />i'm so pleased you got the birth you wanted, well done hun!!!&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br /><br />enjoy all the 'pink' shopping!  it's so much fun<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley10.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Okay VBA2Cs!! : A huge congratulations Toni....]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18969">2bmumof3</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 26 May 2008 at 9:36pm<br /><br />A huge congratulations Toni.  That is just awsome that you got your VBA2C birthing experience the way you set out to.  <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />I can't wait to here how it all went, enjoy your baby girl <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18083">Freesia</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 26 May 2008 at 4:28pm<br /><br />Congratulations Toni <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0"> That is so awesome that everything went to plan. What a good wee girl you have.]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Okay VBA2Cs!! : Hahahahaha well done me aye!! Home...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1033">toniellis</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 26 May 2008 at 4:08pm<br /><br />Hahahahaha well done me aye!!<br />Home waterbirth VBA2Cs! I'm so proud of myself & LOVING my little girl & well..... YAY!! <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley10.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley10.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Okay VBA2Cs!! : hang on..  here it is...  Don&amp;#039;t...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10154">fattartsrock</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 26 May 2008 at 3:22pm<br /><br />hang on..<br /><br /><a href="http://www.trademe.co.nz/Community/MessageBoard/Messages.aspx?id=26652459&threadid=26652459" target="_blank">here it is...</a><br /><br />Don't look if you'd rather a suprise...]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 15:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Okay VBA2Cs!! : omg yay!  Annie!!!!  At least...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10273">Two Blondinis</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 26 May 2008 at 2:54pm<br /><br />omg yay!<br /><br />Annie!!!!  At least give us the link to the other forum! <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 14:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Okay VBA2Cs!! : Oooh I read a thread on another...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10154">fattartsrock</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 26 May 2008 at 2:50pm<br /><br />Oooh I read a thread on another forum that Toni has had her baby, but I'm not spilling ANY details, but YAY and congrats to you xxx]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 14:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Okay VBA2Cs!! : congrats!!!!!   sorry you didn&amp;#039;t...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=993">jack_&_charli</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 26 May 2008 at 2:17pm<br /><br />congrats!!!!!<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley10.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />sorry you didn't get your VBA2C, but i'm glad that you are positive about the c/s and you did very well i must say<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley10.gif" border="0">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;just glad that she arrived safely and everyone is ok<br /><br />i bet the boys will love having a little sister to look out for<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 14:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=16254">AnnC</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 25 May 2008 at 9:51pm<br /><br />Congrats on your baby girl.  You sound so positive about your labour and ceasar - well done <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10273">Two Blondinis</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 25 May 2008 at 12:14pm<br /><br />congrats on the safe arrival of your little girl <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Okay VBA2Cs!! : Big congrats Sara &amp; the most important...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1033">toniellis</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 25 May 2008 at 8:55am<br /><br />Big congrats Sara & the most important thing was the you & Bubs are healthy & well!<br />Sounds like you did really well anyway & handled things like a trooper <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley10.gif" border="0"> <br />Wonderful to hear back from you too & I'm just off to add my congrats in the May thread <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley10.gif" border="0"> <span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by toniellis</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17802">Bobbie</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 24 May 2008 at 8:39pm<br /><br />Congratulations - glad you had a safe delivery and you're all well. ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Okay VBA2Cs!! : Big Congratulations! I&amp;#039;m...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18083">Freesia</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 24 May 2008 at 7:37pm<br /><br />Big Congratulations! I'm glad that you were given a really good shot at it and that bubs arrived safely.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=682">Bizzy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 24 May 2008 at 1:36pm<br /><br />congrats, you sound so positive about the experience...  love the name too - my niece is called chelsea.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=207">Maya</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 24 May 2008 at 1:27pm<br /><br />Congrats on the safe arrival of your wee baby girl! ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17548">Rachael21</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 24 May 2008 at 12:28pm<br /><br />Aww congrats and yay for a wee girl <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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   <pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 12:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18969">2bmumof3</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 24 May 2008 at 12:12pm<br /><br />Wholey, I keep editing post to fix typos but I think I'll give up, there's too many, lol.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18969">2bmumof3</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 24 May 2008 at 12:10pm<br /><br />Hi girls,  well we're home and well.  I got to 7 cms and then got an extra/new pain whilst having contractions so we headed into hospital.  We waited an got no further, contractions still ranging from 4 - 10 mins apart.  Tried breaking waters which set me back to 4 cms, arrgh!!  That was raelly disheartening. (There was meconium?? in waters but no sign of baby in distress on monitor so not too worried bout that) . Tried a shower which was great, contractions got consistentish 3-6mins apart and got alot more painfull.  Stayed upright pretty much the whole time to try to let gravity help.  After another couple of hours I was still only 4 cms (could stretch to 10cms though) so midwife called it it there.  I feel that I really was given a good chance this time an am happy to have a lovely baby girl 7lb 12oz born 5.30am 21st May.  Both the obstetrician and midwife said that there was a section of my old scar that was significantly thinner than the rest and that happens to be where i was getting thoses extra pains during contractions.  So even though we don't know that a rupture was imminent it certainly is good that we didn't stick around to find out.  My husband was a bi of a mess by the end of it all, stressing that something was going to happen to me or bubs.  When he finally heard bubs cry tears just streamed down his face in relief that it was over and OK.  <br /><br />So not a successfull VBA2C but still a succesfull delivery with a beautiful baby girl to show for it.<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> <span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by 2bmumof3</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=993">jack_&_charli</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 24 May 2008 at 9:43am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by RachandJack" alt="Originally posted by RachandJack" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>RachandJack wrote:</strong><br /><br />Hopefully shes just having a nice long break in hospital</td></tr></table><br /><br />but not because of a c/s<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley6.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17548">Rachael21</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 May 2008 at 11:36pm<br /><br />Hopefully shes just having a nice long break in hospital]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=682">Bizzy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 May 2008 at 9:34pm<br /><br />every time i see a new post i think its news....  still nothing...&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;i'm starting to worry!<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=993">jack_&_charli</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 May 2008 at 9:14pm<br /><br />i was going to offer..but thought about it abit too late<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10273">Two Blondinis</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 May 2008 at 4:55pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by toniellis" alt="Originally posted by toniellis" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>toniellis wrote:</strong><br /><br />No I'm pretty sure she didn't have a text buddy lined up & was just going to update us herself.... <br />Must have had Bubs by now..... <br />*tries to be patient* <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0"></td></tr></table><br /><br />Oh no!  Now I wish I had offered.<br /><br />I'm no good at being patient  lol]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18083">Freesia</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 May 2008 at 10:36am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by jack_&_charli" alt="Originally posted by jack_&_charli" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>jack_&_charli wrote:</strong><br /><br />i'm hoping that the longer she stays away just means she's busy with her new bub and not because she's still in hospital after a c/s<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0"></td></tr></table><br /><br />Oh, I hope so.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=993">jack_&_charli</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 May 2008 at 10:22am<br /><br />i'm hoping that the longer she stays away just means she's busy with her new bub and not because she's still in hospital after a c/s<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1033">toniellis</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 22 May 2008 at 8:45pm<br /><br />No I'm pretty sure she didn't have a text buddy lined up & was just going to update us herself.... <br />Must have had Bubs by now..... <br />*tries to be patient* <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10273">Two Blondinis</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 22 May 2008 at 8:26pm<br /><br />no news is good news I reckon <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0">  <br /><br />Sara must have had the baby by now!!!  Was she texting anyone on here with an update?]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1033">toniellis</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 22 May 2008 at 10:38am<br /><br />Just popping in to see if there is any news..... ARGH I am sooooooo dying to hear how things went! <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley10.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley8.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=993">jack_&_charli</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 21 May 2008 at 10:07pm<br /><br />i sooooooo hope she got her VBA2C!&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;dying to know how it went and what she had......<br />chelsea or elliot?<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=16254">AnnC</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 21 May 2008 at 10:00pm<br /><br />me too - how exciting.  i remember the sitting in bed hoping to sleep when realy I couldn't mixture of being excited and contractions making it uncomfortable.<br /><br />ooooo - how exciting <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=682">Bizzy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 21 May 2008 at 9:54pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Freesia" alt="Originally posted by Freesia" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Freesia wrote:</strong><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by toniellis" alt="Originally posted by toniellis" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>toniellis wrote:</strong><br /><br />Dying to know if Bubba has been born!! Hope all is well <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley10.gif" border="0"></td></tr></table><br /><br />Same <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> I keep checking in just to see.</td></tr></table><br /><br />yeah, i'm another one waiting to hear..  hope it all went well...]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18083">Freesia</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 21 May 2008 at 9:46pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by toniellis" alt="Originally posted by toniellis" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>toniellis wrote:</strong><br /><br />Dying to know if Bubba has been born!! Hope all is well <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley10.gif" border="0"></td></tr></table><br /><br />Same <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> I keep checking in just to see.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1033">toniellis</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 21 May 2008 at 9:15pm<br /><br />Dying to know if Bubba has been born!! Hope all is well <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley10.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17548">Rachael21</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 21 May 2008 at 2:32pm<br /><br />Ooo so exciting I hope it all went well.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=993">jack_&_charli</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 21 May 2008 at 12:13pm<br /><br />i got to 5cms at home then headed into hospital....charli was born almost 4hrs later....<br /><br />here's hoping everything went well and to plan...can't wait to hear some news hun!!<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1033">toniellis</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 21 May 2008 at 7:41am<br /><br />Oh yay hoping there is a new Bubba arrived by now <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley10.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />So excited for you & hope all has gone to plan!!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10273">Two Blondinis</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 May 2008 at 9:38pm<br /><br />All the best Sara - sending lots of easy labour/birth vibes your way <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley10.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=207">Maya</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 May 2008 at 9:22pm<br /><br />Good luck!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18969">2bmumof3</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 May 2008 at 6:31pm<br /><br />This is taking forever <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />My contractions simply won't settle ranging from 8 - 12 mins apart, some of them long and painfull others short an simply a bit uncomfortable.  My mw came round bout an hour ago and was surprised to find that I actually was progressing though, 5cms so I guess I'm half way there <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif" border="0"> .  <br /><br />I haven't setup anyone to txt when it finally does happen but I'll be sure to posts as soon as I can.<span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by 2bmumof3</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=993">jack_&_charli</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 May 2008 at 9:47am<br /><br />ooooo how exciting for you!!!!!  i hope things are over for you now and you are holding your new baby<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0"> <br />or at least well under way<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"><br /><br />good luck hun...i'm soooooo hoping you can have your VBA2C!<br /><br />have you got someone to txt when bubs is here?  (if not already) ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18969">2bmumof3</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 May 2008 at 2:45am<br /><br />Crap, I got an hours sleep before being woken up with contractions.  I soo didn't want to go into this tired but I guess I got to work with what I'm given.  Tried staying in bed for 3 hours to get some rest but each time I'd just be dosing off another contraction would kick into life.  I have a feeling I'm going to be in for a long haul <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley11.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=993">jack_&_charli</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 May 2008 at 7:01pm<br /><br />ooooh exciting!!!!!<br /><br />i had my show on day 40+4 and charli was born 3 days later<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1033">toniellis</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 May 2008 at 3:46pm<br /><br />Great to hear that the other midwife is lovely & yay for your show (LOL)<br />Certainly a sign that things are happening aye. <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley10.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18083">Freesia</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 May 2008 at 3:15pm<br /><br />I've been quietly keeping an eye on this thread out of curiosity. I had an emergency c-sect with my daughter and would dearly love to have a natural birth next time. I hope it's not long for you now and that it all goes as plan. Good luck <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18969">2bmumof3</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 May 2008 at 2:29pm<br /><br />Have just meet the other mw who was soo lovely, I couldn't be happier <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />Also, I had a show this morning so here's hoping things may happen sooner rather than later<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1033">toniellis</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 May 2008 at 7:58am<br /><br />Oh yay, hope all goes well <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley10.gif" border="0"> <br />It's all falling back into place for you!!<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley10.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18969">2bmumof3</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 May 2008 at 6:34am<br /><br />It's an exciting day, i get to meet my supporting mw.  It's been really nice the last couple of days since I can just relax an enjoy the last few days of this pregnancy.<br /><br />I'll let you know how I get on]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=993">jack_&_charli</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 18 May 2008 at 9:15am<br /><br />hang in there hun!  i'm glad you're feeling more positive now<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />i was in denial when i finally went into labour with charli at 41wks because it had been starting and stopping for a week<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />40+5wks seems to be the magical number for alot of ladies....<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=207">Maya</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 May 2008 at 7:33pm<br /><br />And don't forget that unfavourable cervixes can become favourable in a very short period of time, it's not over till it's over! My midwife swore Maya would hang in and go overdue and she arrived at 38 weeks.<br />Best of luck!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18969">2bmumof3</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 May 2008 at 7:28pm<br /><br />Thanks for your support Stacey.  My midwife has also suggested the ican site.  I had always meant to get round to checking it out.<br /><br />Now that there's no time constraints I feel alot more positive again.  I can relax and simply wait for labour to begin of its own accord which is how I"d always planned it to happen.  I feel that that way my body has decided all by itself that it's time an I will have the most chance of a successful VBA2C.  <br /><br />At the rate I'm going it could be a very good thing that mum and dad are here soon, we could have live in babysitters available for the birth, lol.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19466">MalibuBarbie</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 May 2008 at 2:36pm<br /><br />The above post was for you 2bmumof3]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19466">MalibuBarbie</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 May 2008 at 2:35pm<br /><br /><P>Hang in there! If it's meant to be it's meant to be! I know that is so cliche but it's true. I really feel for you. I swear by long walks along undulating terraIn for myself although DS 2 was a week and a half late but you never know! It might work for you! I have heard of some ladies going three weeks overdue then going into labour and having a VBA2C. There is still hope! I have also heard about a lady who had a cs then second time round her baby was in a posterior position, cervix tightly closed etc and she was about 40 weeks pregnant or so and honestly like overnight she went into labour and her baby turned into the right position and everything. She then had a successful VBAC so there you go. Anything could happen. I had contractions on and off for four days before I went into labour second time round so if the same thing happens to you, you may go into labour on da wednesday or sooner. I was booked in to have a&nbsp;CS on the Friday and went into labour on the Thursday lol. I'm sure our babies know lol. You just never know what is going to happen so take it all as it comes. Well that is easier said than done but I'm sure it would help!here is a website <A href="http://www.ican-&#111;nline.org/" target="_blank">http://www.ican-online.org/</A></P><P>that has some links to some VBA2C birth stories. Maybe you have heard of it but anyway here it goes. Please try to stay positive. You will have more chance of success if you stay positive. Easier said than done though but remember either way VBA2C or CS you will have that baby in your arms sooner or later. By the way I'm sure you will find an alternative babysitter if things don't work out and remember I said if not when! In no way are you being ungrateful. You are being a normal pregnant woman who has the right to feel any way she feels given the circumstances so don't ever think you are ungrateful for feeling the way you feel!</P><P>All the best for the time ahead and things may not take as long as you think they will!</P><P>&nbsp;</P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18969">2bmumof3</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 May 2008 at 2:28pm<br /><br />What an emotional rollercoaster.  I have now just had teh best news from my mw.  She found another favourable mw to take over my care who is prepared to let me go to 42 weeks, yay!!!!  What a weight that's been lifted, no more time constraints.  Now I've just got to sort out who will look after the kids when I do go into labour if after 22nd for those few days.  I have had offers from friends, it's just I'm not good at leaving my kids with people an had really thought I had it sorted.<br /><br />But yay for me!!!<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1033">toniellis</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 May 2008 at 2:16pm<br /><br />Aw vent away! <br />Talk about what a mission to get through <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley6.gif" border="0"> <br />Have you been using EPO to hope soften things up with your cervix? Lots of deep squats to get Bubs head pushing on that cervix?<br />End of the day it is your choice to have the c-section or not & a healthy Bubs is the most important thing so don't feel bad going down the c-section route. I will be cheering you on either way! <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley10.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18969">2bmumof3</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 May 2008 at 1:42pm<br /><br />Things are not looking the best here.  The mw did another sweep this morning and said that my cervics haven only softened a tiny bit, pretty much everythings as it was 2 days ago.  I'm feeling soo dissapointed as I had a good run of contractions this morning that were obviously doing nothing other than causing a lack of sleep <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley6.gif" border="0"> . <br /><br />My parents, as they're coming from aussie, booked their flights a while ago for the 27th an I'm really looking forward to seeing them.  However (at the risk of sounding really mean an ungrateful) this means that the longer the baby takes to come the less time I have with my husband and kids, getting used to an enjoying our extended family.  Nick (hubby) wants me to book a c-section for Monday to give us time together, particuarly as the odds are quickly turning more and more aginst a successful VBA2C before Thursday 22nd.  And to add to it, we only found this out yesterday, both our baby sitters are unavailable as of thursday 22nd 3pm for 5 days...errrg!!!  This leaves hubby looking after our older 2, unable to visit us in hospital very much or for very long as boys would have to come.<br /><br />Sorry bout the really grizzly, grumpy post.  Just feeling really low, after all the fighting to get this far I hoped that it would only be fair that the rest came easily, a bit nieve <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=993">jack_&_charli</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 May 2008 at 10:06pm<br /><br />sara..toni...i understand you desire for a VBAC and hope you both get one....come on bubbas!<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1033">toniellis</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 May 2008 at 9:21pm<br /><br />Oh Sara I hope things work out for you! And you are right at least the end is insight if nothing else... Chin up Hun!<br />LOL Busymum, nope I don't have to have a c-section because of my IUD... That was taken out when I was about 11 weeks preggy. Planning to have this baby naturale if possible... Fingers crossed anyway & legs open LOL<br /><img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2583">busymum</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 May 2008 at 6:37pm<br /><br />Toni I thought you had to have a c/s because of the IUD??]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18969">2bmumof3</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 May 2008 at 6:02pm<br /><br />Grrr, will this baby just hurry up and get out!!<br /><br />Mw did a s&s last night an apparently she could almost gaurentee I won't go in next couple of days, cervics still firm and couldn't get a good sweep.  Babies been extra active since, alot of cramping an the most tiniest bit of a show.  She's back tomorrow morning to do another sweep an if I'm alot more favourable we'll consider breaking my waters later Sunday if labour hasn't already begun.  The reason for this is she's off to the UK on the 22nd and there's absolutely no one prepared to take on my case as the hospital have made such a deal over it.  So ERCS on thursday if bubs hasn't come before hand....I guess at least there's an end in sight even if it's not the desired one.<br /><br />Good luck with your ob appointment toni]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1033">toniellis</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 May 2008 at 9:28am<br /><br />It is the one I like, which is why it was so hard apparently to get me in before my due date LOL<br /><br />No they won't be booking me in for a ceasar. ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=16254">AnnC</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 15 May 2008 at 9:16pm<br /><br />oh lets hope its one you like <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> Imagine if they then book you in for a ceasar it becomes oh so real]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10273">Two Blondinis</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 15 May 2008 at 9:07pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by toniellis" alt="Originally posted by toniellis" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>toniellis wrote:</strong><br /><br />Well apparently they "moved heaven & earth" to get me an appointment with the right OB for next week on thursday LOL.... I'm not worried to be honest</td></tr></table><br /><br />and so they should have! <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />All the best for next week]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1033">toniellis</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 15 May 2008 at 8:29pm<br /><br />Well apparently they "moved heaven & earth" to get me an appointment with the right OB for next week on thursday LOL.... I'm not worried to be honest ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=682">Bizzy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 15 May 2008 at 5:52pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by 2bmumof3" alt="Originally posted by 2bmumof3" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>2bmumof3 wrote:</strong><br /><br /><br />Anyway, better no ob appointment than a bad one.  Hope you can book in for when the favourable ob is on.</td></tr></table><br /><br />ditto on that...<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18969">2bmumof3</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 15 May 2008 at 1:35pm<br /><br />There's been a name change from 'boyzone', all the past entries have been edited and removed.<br /><br />Anyway, better no ob appointment than a bad one.  Hope you can book in for when the favourable ob is on.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1033">toniellis</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 15 May 2008 at 1:21pm<br /><br />Huh......??<br /><br />Anywho... No OB appointment for me today as it turns out the one I DON'T like is on today so I canclled the appointment <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0"> So new appointment is to be made which my midwife is organising. Frustrating but nevermind.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19466">MalibuBarbie</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 15 May 2008 at 12:05pm<br /><br />Also to those I apparently offended... I'm sorry. That was not my intention.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19466">MalibuBarbie</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 15 May 2008 at 12:01pm<br /><br /><P>I know of a lady who had a VB then CS. She was in tremendous pain for some reason second time round, something to do with her bladder so was glad for CS.</P><P>A friend of mine had a VB and Haemorraged.</P><P>Another lady I know of had a VB first time round then a CS and was very disappointed plus haemorraged.</P><P>I have had two CS after two trials of labour. I was very diappointed. Plus I had complications.</P><P>My cousin had a VB first time round then a CS for her baby was breech second time round. She was diappointed.</P><P>A friend of mine had a wonderful VB.</P><P>Her mother had 5 VB. Her youngest was born at home in under two hours.</P><P>My other cousin has had 5 CS with no complications. She actually looks forward to CS.</P><P>My other friends mother had 4 CS then a set of twins by VB then another baby by VB.</P><P>Another lady I know of had a CS first time round then a VBAC. My freind's sister had a vb with episiotomy and had a hard time recovering and then had a wonderful vb second time round.</P><P>I could go on. I just wanted to make a point that I am in no way simplistic when it comes to labour and birth. I have heard stories from all sides of the coin. I in no way assume that a woman may feel the same or different to me. The truth is I really wouldn't know. This is highlighted above by the diffeent emotions brought up by similar and very different birth experiences which I have spoken&nbsp;about with these ladies in detail. So please don't assume, if that's what you have done, that I am speaking out of turn by apparently assuming how other people may feel. Really I haven't and won't. Also I feel that you are all entitled to your opinions as long as it is not forced down the throat of another so thank you for your input those of you who replied to my posts.</P><P>Now over to you 2bmumof3 and toniellis. I can't wait to hear about how you got on. All the best for the time ahead.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18969">2bmumof3</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 15 May 2008 at 6:29am<br /><br />Well, sorry to say "hubby, you gotta go to work again".  I felt closer to labour this time last week than I do now<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0"> .  <br /><br />Ann, the feeling off being ripped off is something any birthing mother can feel if she didn't get the birth she wanted...we're certainly not claiming it to be exclusive to us on this thread.  The most important thing is healthy mum and baby an it is fantastic that there is such great medical intervention available when times call for it.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=16254">AnnC</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 14 May 2008 at 9:31pm<br /><br />I have had two VB before i had rhyley by ceasar and I can relate to how those who have had a ceasar feel.<br /><br />I would take a VB any day but I knew to get Rhyley here safely and I beleive the only way was a ceasar (big baby, stuck in ribs, breeched)<br /><br />I also sorta feel the 'ripped off' feeling but not for me - for my DH (as Rhyley is his first BIO child) he didn't get the whole labour thing etc.... but he isn't bothered - its me. I even thought of having one more just so he could experience a VB birth (not that he can <em>really</em> expereince it) But that would be a really silly reason to have another child <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> For me anyhow.<br /><br />As Emma said please don't presume how others feel. Just cause someone is 'different' expeience to others doesn't mean what she is feeling is any less than anyone else.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1033">toniellis</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 14 May 2008 at 7:47pm<br /><br />Here's hoping!!<br />**labour vibes to you**<br /><img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley10.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley10.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18969">2bmumof3</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 14 May 2008 at 7:03pm<br /><br />Yay, thanks for that Toni.  Silly thing is I worked for a computer software company prior to having kids an used to consider myself fairly competent, lol <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />My husband came home after a really bad day at work today desperate for bubs to come out tonight so he doesn't have to go back for a couple of weeks.  Here's hoping for his wish to be granted  <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley20.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1033">toniellis</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 14 May 2008 at 6:13pm<br /><br />Sara when you put it in your signature put *&#091;IMG&#093;* in before & after (minus the little stars) and it should come up for you...<br />And LOL at excluding special kisses.... Never say never hehehehehehehehehe!!!<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1033">toniellis</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 14 May 2008 at 6:11pm<br /><br /><img src="http://bd.lilypie.com/Qfvrp12.png" border="0"><br />Is this it?<br />]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18969">2bmumof3</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 14 May 2008 at 3:57pm<br /><br />I simply cannot get these blimin lilypie things going, grrrr!!<br /><br /><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by 2bmumof3</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18969">2bmumof3</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 14 May 2008 at 3:56pm<br /><br />Good luck toni.<br /><br />I've got a s&S tomorrow <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley24.gif" border="0">.  My mw has said that best results are seen after having 3 of them usually a couple of days apart an seen as she's flying to the UK on the 22nd May we better get proactive now.  It's funny how although I came to the conclusion last time that the baby will come when she's ready, by this stage of the pregnancy I'm prepared to try pretty much anything (excl *special kisses* <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> ).  I rushed out this afternoon to buy some clary sage oil and have been actively using the pressure points suggested for accupressure.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=682">Bizzy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 14 May 2008 at 3:56pm<br /><br />fingers crossed for you then!<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1033">toniellis</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 14 May 2008 at 3:41pm<br /><br />OB/gyn appointment tomorrow at 3.40pm! Hoping it goes better than the last appointment I had... <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=682">Bizzy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05 May 2008 at 4:49pm<br /><br />thats ok tonielleis, i understand hormonal preggy  <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />I hope too you get the birth you want...<br /><br />i will say that i have had three very different births now...the only thing any of them having in common was that they were all started artifically.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I had always hoped that my birth with my first would be this fab natural experience and even tho it didnt turn out the way i wanted i always thought it was quite a good experience... UNTIL i had my second and realised how good it could be!!!&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I will always wish that my body had gone into labour naturally and that i had done more to stop the intervention, esp of my last birth.  so good on you for trying .... and all the best<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1033">toniellis</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05 May 2008 at 3:58pm<br /><br />Wow there has been a few posts that I have missed since I was last on here.<br />I do have to apologize Bizzy because I was abit quick to assume when I read your posts as to what you were referring to. <br />It is just that having had a LOT of negative stuff thrown at me lately & being hormonal (as preggy women can sometimes be!) has made me abit grumpy.<br /><br />In my circumstances while I do know a c-section isn't THAT bad (I healed really quickly both times without any problems) just the emotional stuff that I went through just makes me crave the vaginal birth. It doesn't have to be perfect at all but just knowing that I have done it will be a big thing for me. If it doesn't happen then well at least THIS time I know I have done everything in my power to get it right....]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=207">Maya</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05 May 2008 at 2:04pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by 2bmumof3" alt="Originally posted by 2bmumof3" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>2bmumof3 wrote:</strong><br /><br />Had a mw visit this morning which I couldn't be happier with.  The obstetrician has decided that as long as I'm progressing then I'm allowed to continue to labour, yay!!  So 10 days till I'm due, it's getting very exciting now.</td></tr></table><br /><br />Yay for you! Not long to go! Best of luck <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0">]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18969">2bmumof3</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 05 May 2008 at 9:58am<br /><br />Had a mw visit this morning which I couldn't be happier with.  The obstetrician has decided that as long as I'm progressing then I'm allowed to continue to labour, yay!!  So 10 days till I'm due, it's getting very exciting now.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2583">busymum</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 May 2008 at 9:13pm<br /><br />I agree, I'm a little like Bizzy in that I've had two VBs and one c/s but I've had them in the opposite order. Having had VBs doesn't exempt me from this topic, nor does it her. In fact, we may even both have a fuller view.<br /><br />Some people do seem to go for a VBAC only because they feel that they missed out on something special (ie the VB) from having had only c/s before. I think Bizzy raised an important point that you must consider all the pros and cons to that and not just stubbornly go for the VBAC option because of a feeling of having missed out. But, in subsequent posts it does seem that that has been thought through already by you guys.<br /><br />Hopefully that helps clear the air. All the very best to those almost due! 2bmum, if I were you and went into labour on the weekend, I'd start driving to Palmy so that I had the assurance of knowing that all back-up options were in place. Also, you should be well in labour by the time you arrive!! <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=207">Maya</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 May 2008 at 8:46pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by boyzone" alt="Originally posted by boyzone" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>boyzone wrote:</strong><br /><br />I felt Bizzy's earlier  comment was unfounded as she has given birth vaginally so how could she know of the emotions a person who has not given birth vaginally may feel just as I cannot comprehend what emotions a person who has had a horriffic vaginal birth or otherwise may feel. <br /><br />&#091;quote=boyzone&#093; She may indeed feel the same as I do even though my birth stories are different to her own.</td></tr></table> <br /><br />So on the on hand there is no way she could possibly understand, but on the other hand she *might* feel the same way as you do?<br /><br />I think we need to be very careful when assuming to know what other people do and don't, can and can't feel.<br /><br />Again, not a criticism, just an observation that whilst we are all entitled to our own thoughts and opinions, I personally don't believe that extends to making assumptions on OTHER people's thoughts an opinions.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19466">MalibuBarbie</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 May 2008 at 8:38pm<br /><br /><P>&nbsp;</P><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by boyzone</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19466">MalibuBarbie</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 May 2008 at 8:31pm<br /><br /><P>&nbsp;</P><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by boyzone</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18969">2bmumof3</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 May 2008 at 8:04pm<br /><br />There's a few good points coming up in the last few posts.  New studies are coming up regarding the effects of a bad birth experience (vaginally or c-section) being related to post natal depression.  In my case, where I stated that I feel I'm owed this experience, my VBAC attempt with my 2nd child was not a fair trial (too long winded to go into detail).  I agree that another c-section is NOT the worst end result of a VBA2C try, if I'm given a fair shot at labouring this time then I'm certain I'll feel good about however I end up birthing as long as it means healthy baby and mum.<br /><br />Basically, if you are to consider a VBAC or VBA2C then make sure you do alot of research to ensure you can make the right decision for you.  I found the risks of either very comparable but decided that for myself I really want the VBA2C.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=682">Bizzy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 May 2008 at 7:27pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by boyzone" alt="Originally posted by boyzone" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>boyzone wrote:</strong><br /><br />I feel that you do not understand how deep the emotions run when a women has not been able to give birth naturally due perhaps more to medical intervention rather than a medical reason.</td></tr></table><br /><br />i'm sorry but the reason i had to have a caesar was due to medical intervention...<br /><br />having had 2 vaginal deliveries i completely understand the desire to have a vbac and i wouldnt wish a caesar on anybody so fully support the desire to try for a vaginal birth...  <br /><br />before i had my baby to me the thought of having a caesar was the worse case scenario so when i was told that was how it may end up i tried my hardest to not make it happen, as did the mw's and medical team.  Unfortunatley it didnt work and i learnt that having a caesar wasnt the worse case scenario i had imagined it to be after all.<br />i fully support anyones desires to try for a vaginal delivery but just wanted to say that if it didnt work, despite their best efforts, then a third caesar isnt the worse case scenario.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=207">Maya</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 May 2008 at 7:08pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by boyzone" alt="Originally posted by boyzone" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>boyzone wrote:</strong><br /><br />you really are not in the same boat as us ladies who have not had a natural birth. I feel that you do not understand how deep the emotions run when a women has not been able to give birth naturally due perhaps more to medical intervention rather than a medical reason.</td></tr></table><br />With all due respect, and given that I have been blessed enough to have given birth to three babies vaginally, I have to disagree with that statement. Every single woman's perception of her birth experience/s is/are different, and just because someone has previously experienced a successful vaginal delivery does NOT exempt them from the same feelings of guilt, regret, frustration etc. that a woman who has only experienced a c-sect feels. In fact, to be totally honest I think having a c-sect AFTER having successfully had vaginal delivery/ies would be devastating - the knowledge that your body CAN do what nature intended it to do but was not able to for whatever reason, be it medical intervention or otherwise would be incredibly frustrating.<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by boyzone" alt="Originally posted by boyzone" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>boyzone wrote:</strong><br /><br />if a woman has the chance of giving birth naturally she should be given it providing it may be beneficial to both parties involved</td></tr></table><br /><br />I fully support a woman's right to make the choices that she sees best for her and her baby, and I agree that vaginal deliveries are, in MOST cases, safer for baby and for mother. Depending on the reason for the initial c-sect/s, there's no reason why a VBAC can't be successful and be a positive experience. And I think LMC's have an obligation to allow women to have access to this option, but also to all of the relevant information and statistics to help them make their decision. It seems like Toni's LMC has invested a lot of time and effort in ensuring that she is fully informed in her choice to attempt a VBA2C, and that is to be commended. However I can understand the reluctance of the medical profession to embrace VBAC as a routine option as, in the event that anything should go wrong, it is them that are to be held responsible. <br />Also, VBAC or otherwise, vaginal births are not all positive experiences. I have friends who are still coming to terms with how horrible and traumatic their birth experiences were two years after the event. And having been the support person at a particularly horrific vaginal delivery in which both mother and baby were severely compromised, medical intervention has it's place. It's a little simplistic to think that just because a baby comes out vaginally, everything will be fine, in practise this is sadly not the case. <br />I'm going to go back to my own little vaginal birth bubble now, but please don't read this as a criticism as it's not, I wish you all well with successful VBACs, but having spent hours researching pregnancy and birth from all angles in the course of my job, I felt compelled to respond.<br />]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19466">MalibuBarbie</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 May 2008 at 5:36pm<br /><br /><P>&nbsp;</P><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by boyzone</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=682">Bizzy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 May 2008 at 10:12am<br /><br />well toni i didnt say you were either.  you have misinterpreted  my post.  it was primarily an offer of support and secondly a reminder of what is important.  You sound like you have made an informed decision and have a good support network in the form of your mw and partner.  you may not have long to go now so best of luck to you.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1033">toniellis</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 May 2008 at 10:04am<br /><br />Sorry Bizzy but I honestly believe that my babies would have arrived quite healthily without the c-sections I had... Yes a c-section does have it's place BUT not in 25% of national births... And I have to agree with Sara, I am OWED because the OBs stole my positive birthing experiences. No mother in their right mind would choose to have a baby arrive in any other condition than healthy & safely so I find that comment just a tad rude. I would always choose to have a c-section & a healthy child rather than a vaginal birth & a dead baby!! But that is not what we are talking about here at all]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=682">Bizzy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 May 2008 at 8:49am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by 2bmumof3" alt="Originally posted by 2bmumof3" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>2bmumof3 wrote:</strong><br /><br />I felt very dissapointed at not being able to birth my other 2 kids naturally, I always felt cheated out of an experience I'm owed so I'm back to fighting!!<br /></td></tr></table><br /><br />wanted to say too that this sentence disturbed me.  I think at the end of the day it is not what we are "owed" but rather that we owe it to our babies to make sure they arrive healthy and safely. ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=682">Bizzy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 04 May 2008 at 8:46am<br /><br />i am the opposite of you - i have had 2 vaginal births then a c section for my third.  and i understand completely about the hospital doing things by the book and pushing intervention when sometimes less intervention is best. i firmly believe that i would never have had to have a c section if i had been listened to in the first place and induction was not attempted when it was.  However at the end of the day the c section was the best outcome for my baby. <br /><br />i did want to offer my support about trying for a vaginal birth but also to remind you that at the end of the day the worse case scenario possible isnt a third c sect.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1033">toniellis</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 02 May 2008 at 4:36pm<br /><br />Yeah not long now for you!!<br />I got my birthing pool today... So exciting! Absolutely dying to put it all together & try it out LOL <br />Midwife appoinment went well & everything is still green light GO for this homebirth <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley10.gif" border="0"> So I'm superhappy & really looking forward to the big day <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Okay VBA2Cs!! : Well I saw my midwife this morning....]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18969">2bmumof3</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29 April 2008 at 12:12pm<br /><br />Well I saw my midwife this morning.  I think she was just as down as I was yesterday.  The letter she asked me to sign to give her some protection was very nicely written and not offensive at all.  After a good sleep I, my husband and my midwife are all very confident and ready to continue on with our battle again. I guess we'll just have to wait and see how it pans out...only a couple of weeks till it'll all be over an I can get on with simply dealing with my family again.]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18969">2bmumof3</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 28 April 2008 at 8:47pm<br /><br />I agree, I can see her POV an need to cover her butt, however it feels like a bit of a backdown.  She has verbally said that I should leave it as long as possible before calling her when in labour as as soon as she knows then she has to recommend I head straight to the hospital.  The part I'm most concerned about is that I know all the hospital midwifes have been informed that even in my midwife doesn't call the ob when I go in in labour then they are to.  He will come straight in an insist on c-section.  I can see it getting nasty.<br /><br />The Mongan method is the one I've been reading also.  It really makes you feel empowered and confident.  I plan on getting into that tonight, boosting my confidence again then when my midwife calls in to see me tomorrow I'll be ready to fight for what I want again.  ]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 20:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Okay VBA2Cs!! : Okay so she wants you to sign...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1033">toniellis</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 11351<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 28 April 2008 at 8:08pm<br /><br />Okay so she wants you to sign this basically so she doesn't get in the poop if things go bad? Understandable from her POV but abit of a cop out to me. Still it is only to say that she "recommends" that you do these things and that she has told you, you don't have to agree to any of those things if you don't want to. My first OB made it very clear to me to stay home as long as possible which very much endeared him to me LOL. In my experience I would say that you do NOT want to go to hospital straight away or constant monitoring or a cathater <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0"> <br />I had all three of those with #2 and surprise surprise another c-section even though neither of us were distressed.<br />I have a book called Hypnobirthing: The Mongan Method, which I have found fantastic.<br /><br />Honestly if that was me, then I would probably wait until I NEEDED my midwife before calling her. You could still transfer to hospital if that is what you want but I found the clock starts ticking once you step inside the door with their time limits & demands <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0"> End of the day your body & they can't do anything without your consent & if your midwife isn't capable/willing to stand up to you then find a very strong willed person who WILL tell the doctors to back off on your behalf. Maybe your Hubby/partner or a very close friend?]]>
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