OHbaby! Forums : its happening again https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Wed, 29 Apr 2026 08:06:53 +0000 Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:46:33 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.05 360 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=13523 <![CDATA[OHbaby! Forums]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_images/web_wiz_forums.png https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/ <![CDATA[its happening again : thinking of you ]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=277912&title=its-happening-again#277912 Author: kezplanet
Subject: 13523
Posted: 15 January 2008 at 12:46pm

               

thinking of you

]]> Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:46:33 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=277912&title=its-happening-again#277912 <![CDATA[its happening again : thanks guys, although i am in...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=277890&title=its-happening-again#277890 Author: Kazzle
Subject: 13523
Posted: 15 January 2008 at 12:26pm

thanks guys, although i am in a lot of pain cramping wise, its still no heavier than my period would be, and we are just glad that my body has gone naturally, which we feel is a good sign.

I am feeling a lot better emotionally today, as i know excatly what is happening...off to see my doctor this afternoon to get the ball rolling]]> Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:26:22 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=277890&title=its-happening-again#277890 <![CDATA[its happening again : Kaz, hugest of huge hugs to you...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=277689&title=its-happening-again#277689 Author: Andie
Subject: 13523
Posted: 15 January 2008 at 9:26am

Kaz, hugest of huge hugs to you and Kent.  I'm so sorry that you have to go through this - none of it is in any way your 'fault', you know.  Man, life can be cruel sometimes. 

]]> Tue, 15 Jan 2008 09:26:12 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=277689&title=its-happening-again#277689 <![CDATA[its happening again : to you Kazzle.. how horrible that...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=277658&title=its-happening-again#277658 Author: ElfsMum
Subject: 13523
Posted: 15 January 2008 at 8:48am

to you Kazzle.. how horrible that you are getting told a lot of different things:( What a horrible last week for you... not sure what to say except thinking of you and big ]]> Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:48:32 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=277658&title=its-happening-again#277658 <![CDATA[its happening again : I cant believe it, i have been...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=277611&title=its-happening-again#277611 Author: Kazzle
Subject: 13523
Posted: 15 January 2008 at 7:35am

I cant believe it, i have been given so much conflicting and wrong information, no wonder my head has been done in, in the past few days.

I spoke to my doctor last night and he said me that there was no way that i could have gotten this far along and there not be something there, and he was right, cos this morning i passed my baby angel.

At least now i know where i am at, and that things are progressing and there is no more waiting.

It has been a very confusing and very hard past few days and I can not thank you guys enough for all your support.]]> Tue, 15 Jan 2008 07:35:53 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=277611&title=its-happening-again#277611 <![CDATA[its happening again : that great news about the waiting...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=277563&title=its-happening-again#277563 Author: nictoddie
Subject: 13523
Posted: 14 January 2008 at 10:39pm

that great news about the waiting time, hopefully you will get some answers/help etc ]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:39:46 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=277563&title=its-happening-again#277563 <![CDATA[its happening again : Sooooo sorry Kazzle. I hope that...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=277501&title=its-happening-again#277501 Author: mum2matte
Subject: 13523
Posted: 14 January 2008 at 9:49pm

Sooooo sorry Kazzle. I hope that even through this you can stay positive and start with the specialists, I am so pleased the waiting time is nice and short for you, but all all the same big hugs.]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:49:06 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=277501&title=its-happening-again#277501 <![CDATA[its happening again : Wow that&#039;s awesome for such...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=277437&title=its-happening-again#277437 Author: busymum
Subject: 13523
Posted: 14 January 2008 at 8:47pm

Wow that's awesome for such a short waiting list time ]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:47:09 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=277437&title=its-happening-again#277437 <![CDATA[its happening again : So sorry Kazzle. Best of luck...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=277391&title=its-happening-again#277391 Author: Aprilfools
Subject: 13523
Posted: 14 January 2008 at 7:23pm

So sorry Kazzle.

Best of luck with your specialist appointment.]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2008 19:23:10 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=277391&title=its-happening-again#277391 <![CDATA[its happening again : Kaz - as I have said in my PM...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=277385&title=its-happening-again#277385 Author: emachan
Subject: 13523
Posted: 14 January 2008 at 7:03pm

Kaz - as I have said in my PM I am so gutted about your news, good news though about the referral to the specialists, hoping they will get you sorted asap!]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2008 19:03:33 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=277385&title=its-happening-again#277385 <![CDATA[its happening again : I&#039;m so so sorry Kaz. Hope...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=277300&title=its-happening-again#277300 Author: yummymummy
Subject: 13523
Posted: 14 January 2008 at 4:28pm

I'm so so sorry Kaz. Hope the specialist will have some answers for you. Big big hugs ]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2008 16:28:32 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=277300&title=its-happening-again#277300 <![CDATA[its happening again : thats great news kaz that your...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=277252&title=its-happening-again#277252 Author: tropics
Subject: 13523
Posted: 14 January 2008 at 3:38pm

thats great news kaz that your going to see a specialist im sure they will be able to help you and you will be in the best possible hands ]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2008 15:38:05 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=277252&title=its-happening-again#277252 <![CDATA[its happening again : hey Kaz, I&#039;m so happy that...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=277243&title=its-happening-again#277243 Author: Henna79
Subject: 13523
Posted: 14 January 2008 at 3:25pm

hey Kaz, I'm so happy that now you kinda know whats been going on and are starting to feel better. I hope that the fert experts help ya like they did us ]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2008 15:25:52 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=277243&title=its-happening-again#277243 <![CDATA[its happening again : funnily enough now that i know...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=277199&title=its-happening-again#277199 Author: Kazzle
Subject: 13523
Posted: 14 January 2008 at 2:44pm

funnily enough now that i know this, and know where i am, i dont feel like im in such a bad head space, and i can just get on with things, knowing that within the next week hopefully my period will start and we can go from there.

Thankyou all so much for all your support, you have all helped me through this dark time over the past few days, and i just know that when i do get a sticky bean that he/she will have loads of dotting aunties and uncles

edited to add I have just spoken to the fertility specialists and on their suggestion am seeing my doctor tomorrow to get a referral with all my info in it about my miscarriages etc, and its only 2-3 week waiting list.

Edited by Kazzle]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:44:48 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=277199&title=its-happening-again#277199 <![CDATA[its happening again : Awww Kaz that really and truely...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=277195&title=its-happening-again#277195 Author: mummy_becks
Subject: 13523
Posted: 14 January 2008 at 2:41pm

Awww Kaz that really and truely does bite

]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:41:10 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=277195&title=its-happening-again#277195 <![CDATA[its happening again : Awwww Kaz I&#039;m really sorry...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=277183&title=its-happening-again#277183 Author: aimeejoy
Subject: 13523
Posted: 14 January 2008 at 2:24pm

Awwww Kaz I'm really sorry Take care...]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:24:46 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=277183&title=its-happening-again#277183 <![CDATA[its happening again : bascially i have had what they...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=277182&title=its-happening-again#277182 Author: Kazzle
Subject: 13523
Posted: 14 January 2008 at 2:22pm

bascially i have had what they call a chemical pregnancy, which means that there was never a baby there to start with apparently, but it still tricks yah body, so just need my hormone levels to get back to normal and go from there

edit to add, have since found out that this information is incorrect

Edited by Kazzle]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:22:55 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=277182&title=its-happening-again#277182 <![CDATA[its happening again : thats just weird. Big hugs to...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=277176&title=its-happening-again#277176 Author: fattartsrock
Subject: 13523
Posted: 14 January 2008 at 2:12pm

thats just weird. Big hugs to you xxx]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:12:08 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=277176&title=its-happening-again#277176 <![CDATA[its happening again : Oh Kaz Im so sorry! Are you feeling...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=277171&title=its-happening-again#277171 Author: Shezamumof3
Subject: 13523
Posted: 14 January 2008 at 2:01pm

Oh Kaz Im so sorry! Are you feeling a bit better now that you know whats going on?]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:01:06 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=277171&title=its-happening-again#277171 <![CDATA[its happening again : I&#039;ve been thinking of you...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=277170&title=its-happening-again#277170 Author: Mazzy
Subject: 13523
Posted: 14 January 2008 at 2:00pm


I've been thinking of you all day today Kazzle, I'm so sorry to hear that you've received that confirmation, but glad that you now know what is going on a bit better rather than waiting and being stressed.
You and your DH are in my thoughts.
]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2008 14:00:50 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=277170&title=its-happening-again#277170 <![CDATA[its happening again : Okay so just heard from the hospital...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=277165&title=its-happening-again#277165 Author: Kazzle
Subject: 13523
Posted: 14 January 2008 at 1:57pm

Okay so just heard from the hospital and im not pregnant, my hormone levels have dropped from 102 on friday to 61 today.

they have said that i just have to wait for my period to arrive, was told that becasue my levels were low to start with that there wont be really anything there to expel.

I asked about still feeling pregnant and was told that they thought my body was just a bit behind in itself, and that i had to do another test tuesday week, and if i hadnt started bleeding by then, then they would do a scan.

So yeah, now its just waiting for my body to get back to normal...who knows, maybe what ive been feeling is ovulation pain and i will fall pregnant without getting a period back...argghh wishful thinking]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2008 13:57:04 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=277165&title=its-happening-again#277165 <![CDATA[its happening again : Oh kaz Im so anxious for you!...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=277161&title=its-happening-again#277161 Author: Shezamumof3
Subject: 13523
Posted: 14 January 2008 at 1:46pm

Oh kaz Im so anxious for you! But from your symptoms, it sounds like things are fine!? I REALLY REALLY hope that ur bloods are good! And that they give you a scan, they really should give you one cos its not nice not knowing what your body is doing.]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2008 13:46:38 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=277161&title=its-happening-again#277161 <![CDATA[its happening again : gently bumping up for Kazzle....]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=277159&title=its-happening-again#277159 Author: fattartsrock
Subject: 13523
Posted: 14 January 2008 at 1:45pm

gently bumping up for Kazzle. Thinking of you xx]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2008 13:45:12 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=277159&title=its-happening-again#277159 <![CDATA[its happening again : I so hope that the results are...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=277068&title=its-happening-again#277068 Author: mummy_becks
Subject: 13523
Posted: 14 January 2008 at 12:17pm

I so hope that the results are good for you today Kaz. Hopefully you get a scan very soon too.

]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2008 12:17:48 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=277068&title=its-happening-again#277068 <![CDATA[its happening again : Far out kazzle. I am hoping this...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=277020&title=its-happening-again#277020 Author: kobec
Subject: 13523
Posted: 14 January 2008 at 11:38am

Far out kazzle. I am hoping this turns around for youI can't even imagine what you must be going thru at the moment. I totally agree with Bee in getting that scan. HUGEST HUGS TO YOU. And as for those comments from people.....Agggggggggrrrrrr is all I can say. ]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:38:28 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=277020&title=its-happening-again#277020 <![CDATA[its happening again : ]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=277010&title=its-happening-again#277010 Author: my2angels
Subject: 13523
Posted: 14 January 2008 at 11:31am

]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:31:16 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=277010&title=its-happening-again#277010 <![CDATA[its happening again : i hope its good news for you kazzle!...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=276959&title=its-happening-again#276959 Author: BaAsKa
Subject: 13523
Posted: 14 January 2008 at 10:44am

i hope its good news for you kazzle! iv heard some lovely stories lately about up and down HCGs and healthy bubs! lots and lots of lucky dust thrown your way!!!:::....]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:44:35 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=276959&title=its-happening-again#276959 <![CDATA[its happening again : had bloods done, result should...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=276915&title=its-happening-again#276915 Author: Kazzle
Subject: 13523
Posted: 14 January 2008 at 10:21am

had bloods done, result should be back by midday, if havent heard from the hospital by then will be ringing them again]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:21:55 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=276915&title=its-happening-again#276915 <![CDATA[its happening again : Rant away!!! Thats what this board...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=276900&title=its-happening-again#276900 Author: Bumble
Subject: 13523
Posted: 14 January 2008 at 10:12am

Rant away!!! Thats what this board is about.

I feel for you Kaz. Good luck today with getting bloods done and DEMAND that scan!!!

Hugest Hugs.]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:12:55 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=276900&title=its-happening-again#276900 <![CDATA[its happening again : big hugs Kazzle Thinking of you...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=276781&title=its-happening-again#276781 Author: tropics
Subject: 13523
Posted: 14 January 2008 at 7:42am

big hugs Kazzle

Thinking of you]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:42:30 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=276781&title=its-happening-again#276781 <![CDATA[its happening again : i am so so so tired, and stressed,...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=276775&title=its-happening-again#276775 Author: Kazzle
Subject: 13523
Posted: 14 January 2008 at 7:28am

i am so so so tired, and stressed, im not sleeping and if i didnt have Rhiannon i probably wouldnt have gotten out of bed.

I woke up this morning with full blown morning sickness, what the hell is up with that, my body is giving me no signs of letting go. edited to add ....I just had a shower and almost ended up in tears cos the water on my boobs hurt so much.

so plan of action today is to go do some hcg bloods and then talk to the hospital doctor about a scan, and i need to know for sure, i cant handle many more days like this, i HATE HATE HATE feeling like this, i cant even manage a proper smile for anyone.

and even though its only been too days, i am so sick of the "oh you look tired," or "you dont look very happy" comments, im too tired to even cry anymore.

Im sorry girls and guys im just ranting its about the only thing i can do at the moment

Edited by Kazzle]]> Mon, 14 Jan 2008 07:28:51 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=276775&title=its-happening-again#276775 <![CDATA[its happening again : Kaz I was so hoping that this...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=276584&title=its-happening-again#276584 Author: busymum
Subject: 13523
Posted: 13 January 2008 at 9:10pm

Kaz I was so hoping that this was a bumped thread and to find out yet another m/c for you!!!! I'm so sorry!

Once you've had whatever time you need, I hope you go see a specialist about things. It seems you need a better plan (than your previous doctor gave you) and probably close monitoring in your next pregnancy too. Big hugs Kazzle]]> Sun, 13 Jan 2008 21:10:44 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=276584&title=its-happening-again#276584 <![CDATA[its happening again : This may not be any help, but...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=276561&title=its-happening-again#276561 Author: lizzle
Subject: 13523
Posted: 13 January 2008 at 8:53pm

This may not be any help, but i find when i am beating myself about things, i think "if my best friend came and said this to me, what would I say?" - and it helps me find another perspective. hope this makes sense]]> Sun, 13 Jan 2008 20:53:49 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=276561&title=its-happening-again#276561 <![CDATA[its happening again : Oh im so sorry to hear of your...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=276416&title=its-happening-again#276416 Author: Leahsmummy
Subject: 13523
Posted: 13 January 2008 at 6:38pm

Oh im so sorry to hear of your lose Keep your head up (easy said then done i no). And its not ur fault at all. ]]> Sun, 13 Jan 2008 18:38:35 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=276416&title=its-happening-again#276416 <![CDATA[its happening again : I&#039;m sorry Kazzle. Such sad...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=276169&title=its-happening-again#276169 Author: Snickerdoodle
Subject: 13523
Posted: 13 January 2008 at 10:19am


I'm sorry Kazzle. Such sad news.

But remember it's not your fault. I'm sure Kent is more worried about you than losing the baby.
Look after yourself.
I hope to see some positive action being taken soon.

XOX]]> Sun, 13 Jan 2008 10:19:34 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=276169&title=its-happening-again#276169 <![CDATA[its happening again : I&#039;m so very sorry Kazzle...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=276128&title=its-happening-again#276128 Author: ginger
Subject: 13523
Posted: 13 January 2008 at 9:12am

I'm so very sorry Kazzle

Go and see a specialist and get the ball rolling. I don't think the person at the hospital was right, telling you to wait it out. ]]> Sun, 13 Jan 2008 09:12:57 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=276128&title=its-happening-again#276128 <![CDATA[its happening again : Awww Kaz I&#039;m so sorry to...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275802&title=its-happening-again#275802 Author: Bubbaloo
Subject: 13523
Posted: 12 January 2008 at 7:38pm

Awww Kaz I'm so sorry to hear that to you and your family.]]> Sat, 12 Jan 2008 19:38:45 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275802&title=its-happening-again#275802 <![CDATA[its happening again : it&#039;s not your fault sweet......]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275706&title=its-happening-again#275706 Author: nictoddie
Subject: 13523
Posted: 12 January 2008 at 4:05pm

it's not your fault sweet...]]> Sat, 12 Jan 2008 16:05:56 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275706&title=its-happening-again#275706 <![CDATA[its happening again : im so sorry kaz thinking...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275647&title=its-happening-again#275647 Author: mum2emj
Subject: 13523
Posted: 12 January 2008 at 1:25pm

im so sorry kaz
thinking of you xoxo]]> Sat, 12 Jan 2008 13:25:46 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275647&title=its-happening-again#275647 <![CDATA[its happening again : that sucks kaz. i was really...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275639&title=its-happening-again#275639 Author: lizzle
Subject: 13523
Posted: 12 January 2008 at 12:36pm

that sucks kaz. i was really hoping that this was a "bump" rather than a new topic and was so gutted for you to realise it wasn't. Big hugs to you, Kent and Rhiannon.]]> Sat, 12 Jan 2008 12:36:58 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275639&title=its-happening-again#275639 <![CDATA[its happening again : Big big hugs, so so sorry this...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275613&title=its-happening-again#275613 Author: yummymummy
Subject: 13523
Posted: 12 January 2008 at 11:13am

Big big hugs, so so sorry this is happening again ]]> Sat, 12 Jan 2008 11:13:46 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275613&title=its-happening-again#275613 <![CDATA[its happening again : ]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275583&title=its-happening-again#275583 Author: Kels
Subject: 13523
Posted: 12 January 2008 at 10:10am

]]> Sat, 12 Jan 2008 10:10:02 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275583&title=its-happening-again#275583 <![CDATA[its happening again : Well here i am sitting here, with...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275573&title=its-happening-again#275573 Author: Kazzle
Subject: 13523
Posted: 12 January 2008 at 9:48am

Well here i am sitting here, with a sore back and feeling really sick and nothing is happening, mum said to me there is always a little bit of hope, but i had to remind her with my last miscarriage i didnt even know bubs had died at 6wks until i had the scan, i still had all signs and symptoms...so now i think i am going to have to wait until wednesday for the bloods and demand a scan and go from there...i am such an emotional wreck at the moment, there is nothing anyone can do.

I feel like i am letting kent down and i cant seem to hold my babies, and i know in my heart of hearts that im not, but its just so hard. ]]> Sat, 12 Jan 2008 09:48:12 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275573&title=its-happening-again#275573 <![CDATA[its happening again : oh hun i&#039;m so so sorry! ]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275563&title=its-happening-again#275563 Author: noodle
Subject: 13523
Posted: 12 January 2008 at 9:23am

oh hun i'm so so sorry! ]]> Sat, 12 Jan 2008 09:23:49 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275563&title=its-happening-again#275563 <![CDATA[its happening again : Hugs to you and my thoughts are...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275558&title=its-happening-again#275558 Author: Millie1976
Subject: 13523
Posted: 12 January 2008 at 9:17am

Hugs to you and my thoughts are with you.]]> Sat, 12 Jan 2008 09:17:55 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275558&title=its-happening-again#275558 <![CDATA[its happening again : hugs Kaz Im so sorry to hear that...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275533&title=its-happening-again#275533 Author: tropics
Subject: 13523
Posted: 12 January 2008 at 8:38am

hugs Kaz Im so sorry to hear that I really hope that its been some kind of mistake, thinking of you]]> Sat, 12 Jan 2008 08:38:33 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275533&title=its-happening-again#275533 <![CDATA[its happening again : Oh Kazzle, my heart goes out to...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275483&title=its-happening-again#275483 Author: Leelee
Subject: 13523
Posted: 12 January 2008 at 12:00am

Oh Kazzle, my heart goes out to you and your DH, big hugs to you ]]> Sat, 12 Jan 2008 00:00:12 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275483&title=its-happening-again#275483 <![CDATA[its happening again : Aww Kaz, I really hope that everything...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275429&title=its-happening-again#275429 Author: Shezamumof3
Subject: 13523
Posted: 11 January 2008 at 10:57pm

Aww Kaz, I really hope that everything turns out ok and the baby sticks, this is just so not fair on you and your DH. I am hoping for the best for you and am sending all my positive vibes your way, and if you do m/c you know that we are all here for you ]]> Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:57:12 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275429&title=its-happening-again#275429 <![CDATA[its happening again : so sorry to hear this kazzle,...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275397&title=its-happening-again#275397 Author: mylilmosaic
Subject: 13523
Posted: 11 January 2008 at 10:20pm

so sorry to hear this kazzle, was excited for you when you got your bfp!! hugs to you and your family ]]> Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:20:34 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275397&title=its-happening-again#275397 <![CDATA[its happening again : Oh I&#039;m so sorry Kazzle thats...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275381&title=its-happening-again#275381 Author: Rachael21
Subject: 13523
Posted: 11 January 2008 at 9:58pm

Oh I'm so sorry Kazzle thats just not fair I was so happy for you guys. Hopefully you get some answers and its something really easy to fix.]]> Fri, 11 Jan 2008 21:58:00 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275381&title=its-happening-again#275381 <![CDATA[its happening again : Man Kaz that sucks, I have tears...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275356&title=its-happening-again#275356 Author: nictoddie
Subject: 13523
Posted: 11 January 2008 at 9:35pm

Man Kaz that sucks, I have tears in my eyes I was so excited for you , I have a friend who is going through something very similar and has had all sorts of issues getting preggers, she had a scan today and was told that the sac has not grown had one 11 days ago and was 5 weeks she is measure 5 weeks 4 days today so not looking good for her either, man it sucks big hugs hun]]> Fri, 11 Jan 2008 21:35:47 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275356&title=its-happening-again#275356 <![CDATA[its happening again : Huge hugs hon, that is horrible...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275310&title=its-happening-again#275310 Author: floss
Subject: 13523
Posted: 11 January 2008 at 9:01pm

Huge hugs hon, that is horrible]]> Fri, 11 Jan 2008 21:01:55 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275310&title=its-happening-again#275310 <![CDATA[its happening again : I am SO sorry Kaz. That just...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275285&title=its-happening-again#275285 Author: katie1
Subject: 13523
Posted: 11 January 2008 at 8:36pm

I am SO sorry Kaz. That just sucks so much. I am really gutted for you. Sending you the hugest hugs.]]> Fri, 11 Jan 2008 20:36:47 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275285&title=its-happening-again#275285 <![CDATA[its happening again : Oh Kazzle. I&#039;m so sorry to...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275282&title=its-happening-again#275282 Author: Mazzy
Subject: 13523
Posted: 11 January 2008 at 8:33pm

Oh Kazzle. I'm so sorry to read this. I don't know what to say except my heart goes out to you and your DH. ]]> Fri, 11 Jan 2008 20:33:20 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275282&title=its-happening-again#275282 <![CDATA[its happening again : awww hun I didn&#039;t realise...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275281&title=its-happening-again#275281 Author: AnnC
Subject: 13523
Posted: 11 January 2008 at 8:32pm

awww hun I didn't realise you were pregnant again but so sad. Hugs to you and your family ]]> Fri, 11 Jan 2008 20:32:23 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275281&title=its-happening-again#275281 <![CDATA[its happening again : I&#039;m so sorry Kaz ]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275262&title=its-happening-again#275262 Author: EmDee
Subject: 13523
Posted: 11 January 2008 at 8:09pm

I'm so sorry Kaz ]]> Fri, 11 Jan 2008 20:09:13 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275262&title=its-happening-again#275262 <![CDATA[its happening again : Big hugs Kazzle and sooo sorry...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275223&title=its-happening-again#275223 Author: Kels
Subject: 13523
Posted: 11 January 2008 at 6:43pm

 Big hugs Kazzle and sooo sorry this is happening to you again.

]]> Fri, 11 Jan 2008 18:43:47 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275223&title=its-happening-again#275223 <![CDATA[its happening again : i do too, but well yeah, im just...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275215&title=its-happening-again#275215 Author: Kazzle
Subject: 13523
Posted: 11 January 2008 at 6:38pm

i do too, but well yeah, im just going to go on with things and see what wednesday brings]]> Fri, 11 Jan 2008 18:38:16 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275215&title=its-happening-again#275215 <![CDATA[its happening again : Oh Kaz that bites big time , I...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275206&title=its-happening-again#275206 Author: mummy_becks
Subject: 13523
Posted: 11 January 2008 at 6:28pm

Oh Kaz that bites big time , I really hope for you that this baby does stick and there was a fault in the test.

]]> Fri, 11 Jan 2008 18:28:26 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275206&title=its-happening-again#275206 <![CDATA[its happening again : awww hun i,m soo sorry big big...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275157&title=its-happening-again#275157 Author: james
Subject: 13523
Posted: 11 January 2008 at 4:31pm

awww hun i,m soo sorry big big hugs ]]> Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:31:03 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275157&title=its-happening-again#275157 <![CDATA[its happening again : thanks guys, ive started to get...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275155&title=its-happening-again#275155 Author: Kazzle
Subject: 13523
Posted: 11 January 2008 at 4:26pm

thanks guys, ive started to get quite sore on my right handside, feels like it does when af is going to start, i am so hoping for a natural miscarriage, it took so long after the dnc for my body to come right.

To be honest i am an absoulte mess, i felt so good about this pregnancy and to have the rug pulled out from underneath me has really hurt.

I am goin to ring the fertility specialist on monday and go from there.]]> Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:26:36 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275155&title=its-happening-again#275155 <![CDATA[its happening again : oh kaz i&#039;m so sorry hun!!...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275153&title=its-happening-again#275153 Author: jack_&_charli
Subject: 13523
Posted: 11 January 2008 at 4:23pm

oh kaz i'm so sorry hun!! i had tears in my eyes when i saw your topic posted in the list

i hope you can get some answers from the fertility specialists! it's not fair that you have to go through this ]]> Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:23:41 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275153&title=its-happening-again#275153 <![CDATA[its happening again : I&#039;m so sorry to hear this...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275152&title=its-happening-again#275152 Author: NikkiB
Subject: 13523
Posted: 11 January 2008 at 4:20pm

I'm so sorry to hear this and to read that you have already gone through other mc.

My thoughts are with you and your DH]]> Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:20:04 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275152&title=its-happening-again#275152 <![CDATA[its happening again : Oh Kaz, how awful for you, we...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275132&title=its-happening-again#275132 Author: caraMel
Subject: 13523
Posted: 11 January 2008 at 4:04pm

Oh Kaz, how awful for you, we all know how much you want this baby! Thinking of you ]]> Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:04:46 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275132&title=its-happening-again#275132 <![CDATA[its happening again : Kaz that sucks, I&#039;m so sorry...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275112&title=its-happening-again#275112 Author: arohanui
Subject: 13523
Posted: 11 January 2008 at 3:16pm

Kaz that sucks, I'm so sorry ]]> Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:16:41 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275112&title=its-happening-again#275112 <![CDATA[its happening again : Big hugs Kaz, I hope they do more...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275097&title=its-happening-again#275097 Author: susieq
Subject: 13523
Posted: 11 January 2008 at 2:55pm

Big hugs Kaz, I hope they do more testing too for you and that maybe the results will go up again or is that unlikely]]> Fri, 11 Jan 2008 14:55:17 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275097&title=its-happening-again#275097 <![CDATA[its happening again : Thanks guys, We are now just playing...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275096&title=its-happening-again#275096 Author: Kazzle
Subject: 13523
Posted: 11 January 2008 at 2:55pm

Thanks guys, We are now just playing the waiting game, (waiting for the bleeding to start) and I will be doing more bloods on wednesday, and if nothing has happened by then i think i will be asking for a scan, and well yeah not sure really.

I think its time for us to go see a fertility specialist, as the doctor at the hospital just told me to keep trying, (it will happen she said) im almost 34 and i dont want to keep going through this...Hell i dont even know how im going to cope next time]]> Fri, 11 Jan 2008 14:55:01 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275096&title=its-happening-again#275096 <![CDATA[its happening again : I&#039;m so sorry, it is just...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275072&title=its-happening-again#275072 Author: cuppatea
Subject: 13523
Posted: 11 January 2008 at 2:19pm

I'm so sorry, it is just so unfair. I hope the docs are able to pinpoint a reason for you, I don't know how you manage to cope going through this.]]> Fri, 11 Jan 2008 14:19:18 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275072&title=its-happening-again#275072 <![CDATA[its happening again : I&#039;m so sorry Kazzle. Big...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275060&title=its-happening-again#275060 Author: Freesia
Subject: 13523
Posted: 11 January 2008 at 2:06pm

I'm so sorry Kazzle. Big big hugs to you ]]> Fri, 11 Jan 2008 14:06:42 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275060&title=its-happening-again#275060 <![CDATA[its happening again : Oh noooo! I&#039;m so so sad to...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275053&title=its-happening-again#275053 Author: yummymummy
Subject: 13523
Posted: 11 January 2008 at 1:52pm

Oh noooo! I'm so so sad to be reading this - I was really happy for you when I first read you were expecting. Big big hugs ]]> Fri, 11 Jan 2008 13:52:08 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275053&title=its-happening-again#275053 <![CDATA[its happening again : Big hugs Kaz, that is SO unfair!...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275052&title=its-happening-again#275052 Author: Maya
Subject: 13523
Posted: 11 January 2008 at 1:49pm

Big hugs Kaz, that is SO unfair!

Will they do more testing now to see if they can pin down any more reasons for the recurrent m/cs?]]> Fri, 11 Jan 2008 13:49:49 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275052&title=its-happening-again#275052 <![CDATA[its happening again : Oh Kaz, I am in tears!!!! Big...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275045&title=its-happening-again#275045 Author: Bumble
Subject: 13523
Posted: 11 January 2008 at 1:39pm

Oh Kaz, I am in tears!!!!

Big hugs to you.]]> Fri, 11 Jan 2008 13:39:48 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275045&title=its-happening-again#275045 <![CDATA[its happening again : Aww Kaz, I am so sorry to hear...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275033&title=its-happening-again#275033 Author: aimeejoy
Subject: 13523
Posted: 11 January 2008 at 1:31pm

Aww Kaz, I am so sorry to hear this. It just sucks and I really wish you didnt have to keep going through this... Hugest hugs and if you need anything, you know we are all here. Take care.]]> Fri, 11 Jan 2008 13:31:44 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275033&title=its-happening-again#275033 <![CDATA[its happening again : Oh, that sucks. Big hugs to you,...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275009&title=its-happening-again#275009 Author: peanut butter
Subject: 13523
Posted: 11 January 2008 at 1:05pm

Oh, that sucks. Big hugs to you, life can be so unfair sometimes. ]]> Fri, 11 Jan 2008 13:05:42 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275009&title=its-happening-again#275009 <![CDATA[its happening again : oh that is awful:( big hugs to...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275003&title=its-happening-again#275003 Author: ElfsMum
Subject: 13523
Posted: 11 January 2008 at 12:48pm

oh that is awful:( big hugs to you:( ]]> Fri, 11 Jan 2008 12:48:56 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=275003&title=its-happening-again#275003 <![CDATA[its happening again : oh hun! thats terrible!!! i hope...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=274982&title=its-happening-again#274982 Author: BaAsKa
Subject: 13523
Posted: 11 January 2008 at 12:14pm

oh hun! thats terrible!!! i hope things pick up for you soon!]]> Fri, 11 Jan 2008 12:14:29 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=274982&title=its-happening-again#274982 <![CDATA[its happening again : Hun I am so sorry to read this,...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=274973&title=its-happening-again#274973 Author: kezplanet
Subject: 13523
Posted: 11 January 2008 at 11:51am

Hun I am so sorry to read this, & of course nothing I can say will make it any eaiser      ]]> Fri, 11 Jan 2008 11:51:49 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=274973&title=its-happening-again#274973 <![CDATA[its happening again : OMG that&#039;s so not fair....]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=274969&title=its-happening-again#274969 Author: .Mel
Subject: 13523
Posted: 11 January 2008 at 11:47am

OMG that's so not fair. Thinking of you. Take care]]> Fri, 11 Jan 2008 11:47:44 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=274969&title=its-happening-again#274969 <![CDATA[its happening again : OMG I&#039;m so sorry, Kaz, that...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=274964&title=its-happening-again#274964 Author: fattartsrock
Subject: 13523
Posted: 11 January 2008 at 11:40am

OMG I'm so sorry, Kaz, that sucks big time. Big hugs to you.]]> Fri, 11 Jan 2008 11:40:20 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=274964&title=its-happening-again#274964 <![CDATA[its happening again : Oh my goodness kazzle, I am so...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=274959&title=its-happening-again#274959 Author: kobec
Subject: 13523
Posted: 11 January 2008 at 11:35am

Oh my goodness kazzle, I am so sorry to hear that!! HUGE     to you and your DH. That just isn't fair. ]]> Fri, 11 Jan 2008 11:35:16 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=274959&title=its-happening-again#274959 <![CDATA[its happening again : Just got my lastest bloods...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=274952&title=its-happening-again#274952 Author: Kazzle
Subject: 13523
Posted: 11 January 2008 at 11:27am




Just got my lastest bloods back and they have dropped from 180-102 and doctors said that within the next day or so i should start bleeding.

I am so gutted, and they cant tell me why this keeps happening...i cant keep doing this, its too hard


]]> Fri, 11 Jan 2008 11:27:25 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13523&PID=274952&title=its-happening-again#274952