I looked into it  for Alize when I was pregnant too but changed my mine on it for personal reasons. They do it at 8years in the islands where family come from and his dad has asked if I will take him  but no I said I wont be. HIs cousins prob will get done tho.

Yes most defintely given the appropriate information about where to go and waht to do and how to get it done etc, The issue is the home job and the fac they dopnt want to pay money.

Debs this isnt a debate either, the family can get it  legally get it done under NZ laws just not for free im afraid,  as it is classed as cosmetic surgery unless for medical or cultural reasons. The situation isnt cultural and how many people would be livid to see

"Baby dies after home job mums says" I couldnt afford to get it done as WINZ dont give me enough money so I did it myself".....OH PLEASE that would be a disater.

BTW in THEIR country (and im sorry but in NZ we and they should live by NZ rules) they go to an experienced person to do the deed not just at home b'cos the local Dr cost too much!!!

RachandJack wrote: Didn't Kels say she had been told where she could get it done if she wanted it done? The issue is the home job, not the fact that its getting done. They only wanted the home job because they didn't want to pay to have it done. Its child abuse because they wouldn't be able to do it properly not because its getting done.

Yep in the original post.

Defintely a do it yourself attutude and VERY DANGEOUS if you dont know what you are doing. That baby could bleed to death, get an awful infection and die from that etc. They have a 3 year old who isnt done either. CHILDABUSE is what it would be classed by law plan and simple. GP has also documented and stated that if it goes ahead and they seek cutural reasons for this, it wouldnt stand up in court at all and he has history for caring for this family so would be in the know. 3year old was born here too.

As you are LIz I have nothing against circumcision BUT only when done properly in a safe environment by people who know what they are doing.

Also just a question but with the cultural reasons for getting it doen isn't it done quite early one like within the first week of a babies life???

I remember seeing on Maternity Ward a Jewish boy was born and they did the deed 4 days after he was born.

It is illegal in NZ unless for cultural reason. Jewish family is a totally different thing than what this family is doing. They have a 7week old who they are wanting done and BECAUSE it is costing money and not FREE then they have quite decided they will just do it themselves. Theirs is not for cultural reasons at all and reiterated but an african worked from their area. They will have all 3 kids taken from them if they pursue this. CYPS have been notified already and have comfirmed this will happen if anything goes ahead.

Sorry BS maybe you had the wrong end of the stick. This is totally seperate from jewish cultural reasons which Rnurse has had loads of dealings with too.

Random nurse talked to Regional Public health Refugee worker today. She went and saw the family today to tell them in their own language it is illegal and they will go to jail. She said they will listen to her as she is of the same ethnicity. Rnurse talked with the mums GP also and he rang and advised her of the options here in NZ. RNurse said she wont feel better till she goes back next week and sees the little willy in one piece....... "someone better hold her back if there is even so much as a scratch on that willy"!!!!

Random nurse wants to thankyou all for your support 

OMG I will be having a drink for the nurse that poor little boy.

I hope that with the help of the support worker that they can "get through" to this mother.

Gosh this has really upset me, I cant imagine ever wanting to do anything like that to my little angel.

There was a nurse and she went to a home visit when there was a family from Africa. They got onto the subject of circumcision and where she could get her 7wk old baby done. After discussing that it is not often done anymore other than cultural reasons therefore is done privately by only handful of surgeons. The mother asked if she would have to pay. The nurse advised it was around a few hundred dollars. Mum asked why since it made babies cleaner etc... Nurse discussed the medical info to refute this and advised that the procedure is now seen more as cosmetic surgery rather than for medical reasons when there is nothing wrong. Mother is mortified that it isnt free and decides that since they do it back home at home themselves she can do it The nurse is horrified and tries to explain the risks and how it is illegal in NZ. Mums friend is there saying great idea (course she would her baby is a girl). Nurse tried to do her best to get it thru the mums head it is illegal and ends up saying that cyps will take all her child off her if she tries this. Mum laughs. Nurse has tears welling up in her eyes and is fighting back the tears as she has to leave the little 7 wk baby hoping and praying for his sake that nothing happens by tomorrow. Nurse cries her way back to the clinic and rings everyone she can think of for help. Nurse has meeting with african support worker tomorrow to go and visit with family........

Gosh some days can be hard