OHbaby! Forums : ANY ideas at all... https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Mon, 20 Apr 2026 09:40:37 +0000 Tue, 18 Mar 2008 13:58:31 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.05 360 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=15255 <![CDATA[OHbaby! Forums]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_images/web_wiz_forums.png https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/ <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : Or a safeTsleep. I used one with...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=328901&title=any-ideas-at-all#328901 Author: caraMel
Subject: 15255
Posted: 18 March 2008 at 1:58pm

Or a safeTsleep. I used one with Ella when she first moved into a big bed. just safety pinned it shut and did it us loose so she could still turn over but it kept her from falling out.]]> Tue, 18 Mar 2008 13:58:31 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=328901&title=any-ideas-at-all#328901 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : The single bed idea is a good...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=328871&title=any-ideas-at-all#328871 Author: .Mel
Subject: 15255
Posted: 18 March 2008 at 1:32pm

The single bed idea is a good one. You can get those bed guard things from The Warehouse.]]> Tue, 18 Mar 2008 13:32:43 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=328871&title=any-ideas-at-all#328871 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : Yes I have considered the single...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=328794&title=any-ideas-at-all#328794 Author: FionaS
Subject: 15255
Posted: 18 March 2008 at 12:41pm

Yes I have considered the single bed idea. Will wait and see what the doc says. My only reservation is that she still hasn't learned to get down (e.g. can't crawl down stairs etc) so wouldn't want her to fall.

At least rocking in a bed would be quieter!

I agree...she does seem to love it.]]> Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:41:33 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=328794&title=any-ideas-at-all#328794 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : Hey Fiona, It sounds to me like...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=328789&title=any-ideas-at-all#328789 Author: 3boys
Subject: 15255
Posted: 18 March 2008 at 12:37pm

Hey Fiona,

It sounds to me like she just gets a lot of enjoyment out of it. Those cots can really make some great noises when you get them going.

Have you considered putting her a a single bed early. I know it sounds a bit scary so young, but maybe the change will help her with this habit. You could still use the cot for her day naps so she doesn't get up and play but try a bed at night with the safety sleep. If she gets up and rocks in that it may not be as satisfying.

Otherwise the only other thing I could suggest would be putting her in with you fro a cuddle - anything to stop the habit, but this may be hard since you are expecting.

Sometimes I think a short sharp change can be all that is needed to curb a habit - and that is all it sounsd like to me, not autisic but just a habit that she enjoys.

The best of luck to you.]]> Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:37:07 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=328789&title=any-ideas-at-all#328789 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : I agree arohanui...we are all...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=328763&title=any-ideas-at-all#328763 Author: FionaS
Subject: 15255
Posted: 18 March 2008 at 12:21pm

I agree arohanui...we are all somewhere on the spectrum as we all have quirks. Thats the prob with labels...they are best avoided. We are all just totally individual.]]> Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:21:32 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=328763&title=any-ideas-at-all#328763 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : Hoping for you guys that the sleep...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=328749&title=any-ideas-at-all#328749 Author: arohanui
Subject: 15255
Posted: 18 March 2008 at 12:08pm

Hoping for you guys that the sleep expert can give you some answers. It must be so hard surviving on so little sleep and worrying too. Good thing you got a bit more sleep last night!

I reckon it's probably worth videoing it so you can take it to the appointment and the sleep guy can see for himself what's going down.

I think your doc is perhaps jumping to conclusions too quickly about the autistic spectrum. Although in saying that, my friends and I joke that most people are somewhere on the spectrum! If anyone is in any way a bit socially odd or has a little quirk like lining shoes up in size order by the door (yes I admit to that one ) then they're "on the spectrum"!

I feel like I wanna say don't worry but I know if it was me I would... so hang in there, sounds like you're doing all you can to try and figure this one out ]]> Tue, 18 Mar 2008 12:08:58 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=328749&title=any-ideas-at-all#328749 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : I know my doc sounds bad but she...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=328736&title=any-ideas-at-all#328736 Author: FionaS
Subject: 15255
Posted: 18 March 2008 at 11:50am

I know my doc sounds bad but she isn't...honestly, she is really good.

I may go down that path bombshell but before I look at the behavioural side, we are going to the sleep doc (who is a GP and paed as well) and a kinesiolist who our friends have had amazing results with. If neither of those work we'll check out that other option.

She slept until 3am so I got 4.5 hours of sleep in one go!!! Woohooooooooooooooooooo. She was only awake for an hour and because I had finally had some deep sleep I just dozed while she was awake rather than fully waking :) YAY! If only she could do that every night. ]]> Tue, 18 Mar 2008 11:50:44 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=328736&title=any-ideas-at-all#328736 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : please get that horrid doctor...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=328278&title=any-ideas-at-all#328278 Author: Bombshell
Subject: 15255
Posted: 17 March 2008 at 9:56pm

please get that horrid doctor of yours to refer you to the people i suggested....they deal with autistic kids every day at all levels - THEY will fill you in on what is and isnt wrong with Gabrielle.]]> Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:56:25 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=328278&title=any-ideas-at-all#328278 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : I wish there was an easy answer...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=328264&title=any-ideas-at-all#328264 Author: meow
Subject: 15255
Posted: 17 March 2008 at 9:53pm

I wish there was an easy answer for you!
It must be so frustrating not knowing what is going on, or how to stop it!

Have you tried just for one day not letting her nap/not for as long?
Probably wouldn't help, but worth a try anyway?]]> Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:53:01 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=328264&title=any-ideas-at-all#328264 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : I just had a though, I remember...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=328240&title=any-ideas-at-all#328240 Author: Rachael21
Subject: 15255
Posted: 17 March 2008 at 9:45pm

I just had a though, I remember one of the guys from antenatal saying he has about 4 -5 hours sleep a night and has since he was small. He just doesn't need sleep like everyone else. Hes really nice and nothing wrong with him at all so maybe shes like that? ]]> Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:45:26 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=328240&title=any-ideas-at-all#328240 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : fiona fiona fiona... sack your...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=328202&title=any-ideas-at-all#328202 Author: Bizzy
Subject: 15255
Posted: 17 March 2008 at 9:29pm

fiona fiona fiona... sack your silly doctor cause he just seems to like giving you bad news...

as i told you pauls brothers both used to do it..neither of them are anywhere on the autistic spectrum - just ordinary average guys.

and they both did it till about 3...they used to do it so hard they broke the cot...!!! eek.

I think that the problem is you are so worried that you cant sleep and lack of sleep can make you imagine all sorts or things...and you really do need your sleep.

ok - thats just my opinion....

and i wish i had a way to help you sleep. all i can suggest is a warm bath, milky chamomile tea and and try and switch off before you go to bed...

oh and if she is on the spectrum there is nothing you can do anyway till you find out for sure when she is older so try not to worry about that either ---- i know easier said than done.

love ya!!!!

Edited by Bizzy]]> Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:29:07 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=328202&title=any-ideas-at-all#328202 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : Are you going to try the phenergyn...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=328111&title=any-ideas-at-all#328111 Author: The_Stuarts
Subject: 15255
Posted: 17 March 2008 at 8:51pm

Are you going to try the phenergyn tonight? I hope it works well.

I'm thinking of you and praying that you have a good night tonight and that the appointment next week goes well.]]> Mon, 17 Mar 2008 20:51:21 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=328111&title=any-ideas-at-all#328111 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : I don&#039;t think they necessarily...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=327897&title=any-ideas-at-all#327897 Author: FionaS
Subject: 15255
Posted: 17 March 2008 at 5:09pm

I don't think they necessarily do a sleep monitoring thing but if they do it is in our home. The appt is in the dr's office and we'll be going through her history, routine, health etc etc.

And yeap, we have the spiritual side covered. The team are church are great.]]> Mon, 17 Mar 2008 17:09:10 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=327897&title=any-ideas-at-all#327897 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : We saw my doc today. She said...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=327890&title=any-ideas-at-all#327890 Author: FionaS
Subject: 15255
Posted: 17 March 2008 at 4:59pm

We saw my doc today. She said she has known other kids who play in the night and most of them (i think she said ALL of them) ended up being on the autistic spectrum...not severe but enough for them to have over-exaggerated self-soothing habits and various other social quirks. She said she wasn't suggesting Elle is on the spectrum though and said they won't know until she is 3 or 4.

Other than that she suggested phenergan at 10.30pm to see if she can be sedated through the waking patch.

Seeing sleep specialist next week so here's hoping he is a solution and some GOOD news that doens't involve the autistic spectrum! She is very very social and intuitive and has great language so even if it is something on the spectrum signs are good that it's not severe.

Sigh. It's a hard road!]]> Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:59:26 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=327890&title=any-ideas-at-all#327890 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : I didn&#039;t think you were nuts...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=327876&title=any-ideas-at-all#327876 Author: caraMel
Subject: 15255
Posted: 17 March 2008 at 4:50pm

I didn't think you were nuts Fiona
Good on you for taking a week off for yourself and thank goodness for hubby being so supportive. You really need good sleep at this stage of your pregnancy too.
I really hope the appointment next week is the beginning of sorting out Elle's sleep issues!
It would be great to have a video of it so you can show the Drs exactly what she's doing and how long it lasts, it might help to short cut their process a bit too.
All the best Fiona, thinking of you.

]]> Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:50:46 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=327876&title=any-ideas-at-all#327876 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : Will try and do a video.I was...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=327641&title=any-ideas-at-all#327641 Author: FionaS
Subject: 15255
Posted: 17 March 2008 at 1:15pm

Will try and do a video.    I was going to do one anyone for you guys to see (so you know I'm not nuts!!)She just rocks, talks, plays, laughs...just really does what a kid does when they are awake (except extra rocking). Her cot bangs loudly. She squeals with delight and chats very happily. After about 4 hours awake she starts a gentle moaning noise and at that point I know she is trying very hard to get to sleep.

She may just not be a sleeper although she had very high sleep needs up until 3 months ago and NEVER made a peep at night (I know all babies wake but she was silent at night for 8 months).

The fact remains though that at her current level of sleep she would be classed as sleep deprived and it is a well researched fact that sleep deprivation in infants often leads to long term learning and behavioural issues so we don't want to play around with it. It is likely classified as sleep maintenance insomnia but we need to find the root cause. The people at the clinic said it is not normal or healthy (yay that they listened!)

It also seems insane that we have to move to a bigger house just to get some sleep ourselves!!

It started when we went away for a holiday just after Christmas. The room she was in was light so she was quite wakeful and when we got home she just kept waking and the periods of wakefulness got longer and longer.

It SEEMS to me like a habit / behavioural issue. We just need someone to find the cause so we can break the habit and get back on track.

She is doing well during the day so I am not worried about her overall development or anything...we just need sleep.]]> Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:15:19 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=327641&title=any-ideas-at-all#327641 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : Yeah I think you definitely need...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=327626&title=any-ideas-at-all#327626 Author: .Mel
Subject: 15255
Posted: 17 March 2008 at 1:03pm

Yeah I think you definitely need to video it Fiona. So the sleep people get an idea of whats going on.

She might be a girl who just doesn't want to sleep when we do... Maybe it's a form of insomnia?]]> Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:03:48 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=327626&title=any-ideas-at-all#327626 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : aww hun you have every right to...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=327625&title=any-ideas-at-all#327625 Author: james
Subject: 15255
Posted: 17 March 2008 at 1:03pm

aww hun you have every right to be worried about your baby big hugs and i hope you can get some answers soon]]> Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:03:28 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=327625&title=any-ideas-at-all#327625 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : I&#039;d have Elle for the night...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=327619&title=any-ideas-at-all#327619 Author: Maya
Subject: 15255
Posted: 17 March 2008 at 12:59pm

I'd have Elle for the night if it meant you could get a decent sleep, but you'd prob be awake all night worrying about her, I never sleep well when my kids are away from me. The offers there if you need it tho. I can stick her in a portacot in the spare room and she can be awake to her hearts content. Trust me, after 9 years of Willie's snoring I can guarantee she won't keep me awake!]]> Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:59:40 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=327619&title=any-ideas-at-all#327619 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : Fiona, someone suggested videoing...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=327618&title=any-ideas-at-all#327618 Author: The_Stuarts
Subject: 15255
Posted: 17 March 2008 at 12:59pm

Fiona, someone suggested videoing the night time rocking to show the doc - are you going to do this? Good luck for the appt.]]> Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:59:35 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=327618&title=any-ideas-at-all#327618 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : Whoops sorry Fiona. I thought...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=327614&title=any-ideas-at-all#327614 Author: katie1
Subject: 15255
Posted: 17 March 2008 at 12:52pm

Whoops sorry Fiona. I thought I read the appointment was today. Good luck for next week. Definitely take time off work. You need to look after yourself.
]]> Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:52:45 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=327614&title=any-ideas-at-all#327614 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : Oh my gosh that&#039;s some serious...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=327612&title=any-ideas-at-all#327612 Author: Andie
Subject: 15255
Posted: 17 March 2008 at 12:51pm

Oh my gosh that's some serious sleep deprivation (and one heck of a Dr's fee ).  I hope you get some answers soon - good on you for both going in with Elle - that's bound to help with the whole 'being taken seriously' thing.  Fair enough needing  a break from the job too - sounds like you need a break full stop!  Is there anyone in your family who'd have Elle overnight maybe a night a week for a little while? 

]]> Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:51:05 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=327612&title=any-ideas-at-all#327612 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : Yes Emma, it is Dr Bartle. I...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=327603&title=any-ideas-at-all#327603 Author: FionaS
Subject: 15255
Posted: 17 March 2008 at 12:45pm

Yes Emma, it is Dr Bartle.

I so hope he can help. Now we just have to survive until next Thurs.

DH is coming too as he is sick of people not beleiving me or taking us seriously.

Great to hear he is good.

I'm probably going to have to take a weeks leave from my part-time as I'm too exhausted to function. I'll send Elle to her Nana's for her usual 2, 5 hour blocks and I'll stay home and sleep.

Argh...why is this happening?!?!?]]> Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:45:04 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=327603&title=any-ideas-at-all#327603 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : Is that Dr Bartle Fiona? He&#039;s...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=327578&title=any-ideas-at-all#327578 Author: Maya
Subject: 15255
Posted: 17 March 2008 at 12:18pm

Is that Dr Bartle Fiona? He's our OHbaby! expert and he's a legend.]]> Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:18:14 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=327578&title=any-ideas-at-all#327578 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : I know it is expensive but it...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=327570&title=any-ideas-at-all#327570 Author: katie1
Subject: 15255
Posted: 17 March 2008 at 12:11pm

I know it is expensive but it is so great that you can get in to someone today who is so experienced and trained in that area. I hope he has some good strategies and solutions.
Thinking of you. Let us know how you get on today.
Take care.]]> Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:11:22 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=327570&title=any-ideas-at-all#327570 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : Probably going to a sleep clinic...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=327547&title=any-ideas-at-all#327547 Author: FionaS
Subject: 15255
Posted: 17 March 2008 at 11:47am

Probably going to a sleep clinic next week. The Dr we will see has been a GP for 25 years and is trained in sleep and specialises in kids. It's $180 for the first hour though.

Why does everything have to cost so much ]]> Mon, 17 Mar 2008 11:47:30 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=327547&title=any-ideas-at-all#327547 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : I&#039;d be worried too if it...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=327533&title=any-ideas-at-all#327533 Author: The_Stuarts
Subject: 15255
Posted: 17 March 2008 at 11:30am

I'd be worried too if it was Michaela. You're in my prayers.

Edited by The_Stuarts]]> Mon, 17 Mar 2008 11:30:41 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=327533&title=any-ideas-at-all#327533 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : No I havne&#039;t heard back from...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=327506&title=any-ideas-at-all#327506 Author: FionaS
Subject: 15255
Posted: 17 March 2008 at 11:04am

No I havne't heard back from OB experts.

I will talk to the doc about a referral to a sleep clinic as although Elle is happy at night there is no way at all that it is good or healthy for her to be awake for 5 hours each night. Something bio-chemical must be making her wakeful.

Yes, I understand re: sleep talking / walking etc but there is absolutely zero doubt that she is wide awake.

DH has been quite relaxed about it all but now he is also really worried. ]]> Mon, 17 Mar 2008 11:04:22 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=327506&title=any-ideas-at-all#327506 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : Oh no. That doesn&#039;t sound...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=327494&title=any-ideas-at-all#327494 Author: The_Stuarts
Subject: 15255
Posted: 17 March 2008 at 10:57am

Oh no. That doesn't sound nice at all!

Have you heard back from the OB experts?

A few people have suggested that she may be sleepwalking/talking. Obviously you're there and we're not so you would know better than anyone else whether she's awake or not but I did want to add that I am a sleeptalker and my DH can have full conversations with me, which can last for ages, and it appears that I'm awake (I respond to questions etc) but I'm alseep the whole time and can't remember any of it in the morning however spending so much time in such a light state of sleep does mean I'm not as well rested as I would have been otherwise.

I'm not sure how fictional this is but you do occasionally see tv shows/movies where a person is taken to a sleep clinic to be monitored overnight - is this a realistic option?

Good luck for your MD appt. today. I hope you get some answers soon.]]> Mon, 17 Mar 2008 10:57:58 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=327494&title=any-ideas-at-all#327494 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : Well it is officially getting...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=327456&title=any-ideas-at-all#327456 Author: FionaS
Subject: 15255
Posted: 17 March 2008 at 10:07am

Well it is officially getting worse. Elle has been awake from midnight until almost 5am for several nights. She is very happy, very awake and very loud. It seems like she just can't get back to sleep. DH and i have tired earplugs, sleeping in the spare room & sleeping in the lounge but she is so loud we can hear her and are wide awake.

I'm seeing our doc again today as we are desperate.

I hate the fact that people laugh and think it is funny as your child be awake for 5 ours in the night and keeping the household awake is not funny.

]]> Mon, 17 Mar 2008 10:07:34 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=327456&title=any-ideas-at-all#327456 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : LOL, a house with a granny flat...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=325170&title=any-ideas-at-all#325170 Author: Maya
Subject: 15255
Posted: 13 March 2008 at 9:33pm

LOL, a house with a granny flat for Elle ]]> Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:33:43 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=325170&title=any-ideas-at-all#325170 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : Sadly no, not really. We are...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=325161&title=any-ideas-at-all#325161 Author: FionaS
Subject: 15255
Posted: 13 March 2008 at 9:30pm

Sadly no, not really. We are looking to move house soon though so space between rooms will be at the top of the list!!!!!!]]> Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:30:32 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=325161&title=any-ideas-at-all#325161 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : What about toys/books in her cot...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=325159&title=any-ideas-at-all#325159 Author: KH25
Subject: 15255
Posted: 13 March 2008 at 9:30pm

What about toys/books in her cot so she might play with them for a bit when she wakes? Is it really dark in her room or does she have a nightlight? Any chance that moving her to a big bed might help?

Ummm duct tape over her mouth lol    (kidding of course)]]> Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:30:04 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=325159&title=any-ideas-at-all#325159 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : I wouldn&#039;t be too concerned...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=325113&title=any-ideas-at-all#325113 Author: busymum
Subject: 15255
Posted: 13 March 2008 at 9:17pm

I wouldn't be too concerned about it, little kids have a way of sleeping in the day if they really need it. But is there any way to change her room or sound proof it a bit more for your own sleep?]]> Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:17:03 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=325113&title=any-ideas-at-all#325113 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : Not offended at all I welcome...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=325087&title=any-ideas-at-all#325087 Author: FionaS
Subject: 15255
Posted: 13 March 2008 at 9:04pm

Not offended at all    I welcome all suggestions. Everyone has different beliefs and the essence of what you suggested is very valid...whether it is medium or a Christian minister...it is still someone concerned with spiritual things.

]]> Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:04:21 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=325087&title=any-ideas-at-all#325087 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : oops sorry didnt mean to offend....]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=325078&title=any-ideas-at-all#325078 Author: my2angels
Subject: 15255
Posted: 13 March 2008 at 9:00pm

oops sorry didnt mean to offend. I have no idea about religion sorry. I know a few times Ive often thought Kobe was having conversations to 'ghosts' or whatever. he used to look up at the ceiling and laugh and chatter like there was someone there.
]]> Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:00:35 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=325078&title=any-ideas-at-all#325078 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : Elle naps 12 to 2 which should...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=325066&title=any-ideas-at-all#325066 Author: FionaS
Subject: 15255
Posted: 13 March 2008 at 8:53pm

Elle naps 12 to 2 which should be just fine up until 2 or later even. She only transitioned to 1 nap at 14mths as she's always needed at lot of sleep. Up to 14mths she was still doing 16 hours per day.

We have / are taking care of the prayer side of things ]]> Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:53:18 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=325066&title=any-ideas-at-all#325066 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : I was thinking the same think...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=325062&title=any-ideas-at-all#325062 Author: .Mel
Subject: 15255
Posted: 13 March 2008 at 8:49pm

I was thinking the same think My2A. ]]> Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:49:46 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=325062&title=any-ideas-at-all#325062 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : my2angels - i hear what you are...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=325061&title=any-ideas-at-all#325061 Author: AnnC
Subject: 15255
Posted: 13 March 2008 at 8:49pm

my2angels - i hear what you are saying - I remember Josh as a 1 year old babbling to something - it really looked like he could see someone BUT there was no one there...

anyway not sure if this is what Elle doing though

I remember reading someone saying about too much sleep during the day - but how late is she sleeping till in the afternoon? If Rhyley (whose not too much younger than Elle) has a sleep till 5 - I don't ut him to bed as early as he just mucks about. Perhaps shes going to sleep ok but then wakes up 'refreshed' and has to 'play' till she feels tired enough again?

I hope the experts can help with it - although i say experts lightly as the best experts are us as parents ]]> Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:49:32 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=325061&title=any-ideas-at-all#325061 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : Thanks my2angels. We are Christians...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=325049&title=any-ideas-at-all#325049 Author: FionaS
Subject: 15255
Posted: 13 March 2008 at 8:39pm

Thanks my2angels. We are Christians so don't go into that kind of thing but are doing what we feel is appropriate (prayer etc) in terms of addressing the spiritual side. Definately a good thought.

I did cross my mind last night as she was having a conversation and giggling...I said to DH "maybe she has an invisible friend in there". ]]> Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:39:37 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=325049&title=any-ideas-at-all#325049 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : this is going to sound completely...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=325038&title=any-ideas-at-all#325038 Author: my2angels
Subject: 15255
Posted: 13 March 2008 at 8:33pm

this is going to sound completely out there but what about a medium, maybe something more than meets the eye is going on....ok even as i type this it sounds completely crazy but well stranger things have happened.]]> Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:33:28 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=325038&title=any-ideas-at-all#325038 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : Thanks guys. Elle finally napped...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=325030&title=any-ideas-at-all#325030 Author: FionaS
Subject: 15255
Posted: 13 March 2008 at 8:29pm

Thanks guys. Elle finally napped from 3 to 5 today at her Nanas and was the happiest kid on the block again when she woke. We've had a lovely evening so I feel better. I'm just too sleep deprived and hence struggle at times.

I've email the Oh! Baby experts + I have an appt with someone in 2 weeks who has been recommended to me as a miracle worker so we'll start there and see how we go.

I have to confess that Elle has phenagan tonight as I thought a couple of night of that might help break the habit if that is what it is. Feel dreadful about it but we all need our sleep.]]> Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:29:51 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=325030&title=any-ideas-at-all#325030 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : Another thought. What about CHADS? Childrens...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324994&title=any-ideas-at-all#324994 Author: .Mel
Subject: 15255
Posted: 13 March 2008 at 8:13pm

Another thought. What about CHADS?
Childrens Health and Disability Service? They are fantastic. They have helped us on off over the years with Conor. I can't fault them. Rhonda who is the nurse for our area is amazing, kind and very "onto it" you would need to get a referral from your GP.

We can talk it about it more tomorrow if you like?]]> Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:13:42 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324994&title=any-ideas-at-all#324994 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : hun, I don&#039;t have anything...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324983&title=any-ideas-at-all#324983 Author: Two Blondinis
Subject: 15255
Posted: 13 March 2008 at 7:59pm

hun, I don't have anything to add other than you are a wonderful mother and that child never wants for anything. It is natural for a mum to blame herself as we are normally the main provider and we all think we should be able to fix anything and everything! We need to remind ourselves that we are only human.

Elle is a lovely little girl who just has a few quirks that need to be ironed out so that you can get some well deserved rest

Big hugs to you and your lovely family ]]> Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:59:11 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324983&title=any-ideas-at-all#324983 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : The only thing I can add is that...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324812&title=any-ideas-at-all#324812 Author: Maya
Subject: 15255
Posted: 13 March 2008 at 4:31pm

The only thing I can add is that Pauline, our psychologist, and Alex, our sleep expert are really lovely people and maybe by working with both of them together you might get some answers? Alex (Dr Alex Bartle) is a GP with years and years of experience and who now specialises in all sorts of sleep disorders in adults and kids and runs a private clinic, and Pauline is very experienced with behavioural issues in children so you couldn't be in better hands.]]> Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:31:29 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324812&title=any-ideas-at-all#324812 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : Thanks. From what I&#039;ve read...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324767&title=any-ideas-at-all#324767 Author: FionaS
Subject: 15255
Posted: 13 March 2008 at 3:32pm

Thanks. From what I've read rhythmic rocking disorder which is what that link refers to, it very common BUT it is rocking that occurs when in light sleep and lasts anywhere from a few minutes to 15 not for hours at a time.

Because Elle is awake and does it for hours it doesn't quite fit. ]]> Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:32:12 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324767&title=any-ideas-at-all#324767 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : You probably have already, but...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324765&title=any-ideas-at-all#324765 Author: pepsi
Subject: 15255
Posted: 13 March 2008 at 3:28pm

You probably have already, but I did a quick google search and there are a number of links to various articles with parents also wondering what it is. Here's just one of them..

Question: I have a five-year-old who will rock late at night on top of his head; just above the forehead. He practically burns his hair off. It even smells burned. Why does he do it and when should it have stopped? He's been doing it since he's been old enough to get on his hands and knees.

Answer: Believe it or not, rocking and head banging are not uncommon events in childhood. Some estimates have said that five to ten percent of children do this. There is no specific association of rocking or head banging with any later abnormalities or problems in children who are developmentally normal. (Only children with severe developmental problems, such as mental retardation and autism, have a higher rate of rocking and head banging that persists when they are older.)

Most children who rock or head bang started between six and twelve months of age. It often consists of rocking on the hands and knees and potentially banging the head against the side of the crib. Some children do this to soothe themselves and some children do this, particularly at bed time, as part of a ritual that helps them fall asleep.

Most children do stop this activity spontaneously between three and four years of age, however there are some children who continue to do it through five or six. If it persists longer than this, it would be reasonable to evaluate it further and find out if there are any other psychological stresses that may be contributing to the symptoms. I would recommend that you see if you can encourage him to develop another bed routine. If you continue to have difficulty with it, I would recommend talking to your pediatrician.

Linky]]> Thu, 13 Mar 2008 15:28:36 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324765&title=any-ideas-at-all#324765 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : Would you believe that after being...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324729&title=any-ideas-at-all#324729 Author: FionaS
Subject: 15255
Posted: 13 March 2008 at 2:55pm

Would you believe that after being awake from 12am to 4.30am Elle won't nap today. She's had 20mins sleep.]]> Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:55:57 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324729&title=any-ideas-at-all#324729 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : I can&#039;t add any other ideas...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324627&title=any-ideas-at-all#324627 Author: katie1
Subject: 15255
Posted: 13 March 2008 at 1:12pm

I can't add any other ideas to what people have said but PLEASE don't think it is anything you have done. You will have done everything possible to give Elle the best possible start in life and she is very lucky to have such a lovely caring Mum who is worrying about her and looking for solutions. Take care. ]]> Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:12:07 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324627&title=any-ideas-at-all#324627 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : FionaS wrote: have you asked...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324618&title=any-ideas-at-all#324618 Author: Bombshell
Subject: 15255
Posted: 13 March 2008 at 1:06pm

Originally posted by FionaS FionaS wrote:

[QUOTE=Bombshell] have you asked about a referral to Campbell lodge - now Awinitia?

What do they specialise in?

We've tried various methods of going in or leaving her to it and nothing seems to help.


Child & Adolescent Services
Campbell Lodge
A community based service for children, adolescents and their families. We see young people up to the age of 18 years living in Counties Manukau who have significant emotional, mental health and/or behavioural problems.

We provide specialist mental health assessment and treatment for children and young people in the context of their family/whanau. Campbell Lodge is staffed by a multi-disciplinary team including Social Workers, Psychologists, Child and Adolescent Psychiatrists, Child and Family Therapists, Nurses, Cultural Advisors, Occupational Therapists, and supported by an Administration Team.

Campbell Lodge staff are also available to other providers for consultation and support in managing cases within their own service.

Campbell Lodge is an Outpatient Child and Adolescent Mental Health Service serving the needs of a culturally diverse population of part of Auckland City. There are probably around 120,000 young people in this area and our task is to provide secondary mental health services to this group.

Campbell Lodge accepts referrals from a wide range of services including GPs, Schools, NGO providers and other Child and Youth Health services.

]]> Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:06:25 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324618&title=any-ideas-at-all#324618 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : Fiona I didn&#039;t mean to offend...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324608&title=any-ideas-at-all#324608 Author: Andie
Subject: 15255
Posted: 13 March 2008 at 12:58pm

Fiona I didn't mean to offend with the suggestion of some on-line advice from a Psychologist... they work with an meet people from all walks of life and can have some good info on general behavioural questions - they're not just there for the high-tarrif stuff.  Anyway, I know you know that already - it's just scary to cross that line of getting... help from a shrink.  And getting their professional opinion or suggestions doesn't mean Elle's suddenly in need of therapy. 

And hey, I understand that it's tempting to look at 'what have I done to create this problem', because every mum seems to do it, and dammit - we're fabulous at blaming ourselves for all sorts of things!  But it just seems too tiring to me, to be raising a busy toddler, fighting constant food battles with her, running a household, all while sleep-deprived... AND wondering what it is you did 'wrong'.  Drop the guilt trip!!!  For what it's worth (and you know I've met some 'special' kids in my time) I don't think you've done anything wrong here, I do think Elle is a beautiful and lovely and also very high-maintenance little girl who I can only imagine will end up in the 'gifted' classes at school one day!

]]> Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:58:25 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324608&title=any-ideas-at-all#324608 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : Yeah I guess, she just seems super...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324509&title=any-ideas-at-all#324509 Author: FionaS
Subject: 15255
Posted: 13 March 2008 at 11:00am

Yeah I guess, she just seems super excited and happy.

I worry about sleep deprivation (hers, not mine). Some days her total sleep drops to 9 hours. This from a kid who up to 14mths still needed 3.5 hours day sleep at 13 hours at night!!!

Edited by FionaS]]> Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:00:09 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324509&title=any-ideas-at-all#324509 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : I used to think my girls were...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324502&title=any-ideas-at-all#324502 Author: mum2paris
Subject: 15255
Posted: 13 March 2008 at 10:52am

I used to think my girls were awake when they sleep walked, which they do frequnetly, but have now been able to figure out that isn't always the case, usually once you see them "wake-up" in the middle of talking to you, and wonder what the hell they're doing then you kinda get a bit of an idea from there on out the kinds of behaviours they have when they are not awake but appear to be.

Paris tends to be very wide-eyed awake, and will be kinda cutesy/ditzy in the way she speaks, she'll ask for weird things and not be able to explain what she means etc, but definately does not stop her getting up, walking around and talking to people. I used to wake up sometimes when she was littler to find her standing next to our bed watching me, not actually with it but wide-eyed (freaky to wake up to big eyes starring at you) I usually could direct her back to be but until she woke properly, nothing would get her to get back in bed and go to sleep properly or close her eyes.

Ayja's more of a wanderer, not always with her eyes open, hence we tend to hear her a bit more as she ends up in weird places and bangs into things alot. Once at my sister's she found her way out of bed, managed to climb over the bed paris was sleeping on and i woke to a crash to her sittingup asleep/dazed-ish (once i had turned on the light freaked out cos i wasn't able to find her) she was wedged between a guitar and a bookshelf, she had no recollection of getting there.

Don't discount the idea of her still being asleep. Kids do some weird things when they're sleep-walkers.]]> Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:52:22 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324502&title=any-ideas-at-all#324502 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : Chovynz wrote:A bit of consolation...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324492&title=any-ideas-at-all#324492 Author: Bel
Subject: 15255
Posted: 13 March 2008 at 10:45am

Originally posted by Chovynz Chovynz wrote:

A bit of consolation from me i guess. My best friend - when he was young - would go on his hands and knees and rock. He'd hit his head every time he rocked. His parents couldn't figure out why he did it. Docs couldn't either.



DH has a cousin who was exactly the same - but the down side was that he did it until he was around 7 years old. He turned out alright tho...]]> Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:45:47 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324492&title=any-ideas-at-all#324492 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : Thanks Chovynz.Stories like that...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324489&title=any-ideas-at-all#324489 Author: FionaS
Subject: 15255
Posted: 13 March 2008 at 10:43am

Thanks Chovynz.   Stories like that help a great deal.

I know worry is stupid...it's just in my nature, especially when it concerns the most impt person in my life :) ]]> Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:43:46 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324489&title=any-ideas-at-all#324489 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : A bit of consolation from me i...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324484&title=any-ideas-at-all#324484 Author: Chovynz
Subject: 15255
Posted: 13 March 2008 at 10:39am

A bit of consolation from me i guess. My best friend - when he was young - would go on his hands and knees and rock. He'd hit his head every time he rocked. His parents couldn't figure out why he did it. Docs couldn't either.

He's turned out fine.

I guess im saying don't worry about it. It'll sort itself out and if it needs addressing then theres time later in life. Try and find ways for you to sleep would be more important than worrying about a habit that doesn't harm her.

One other suggestion: maybe she's having too much sleep during the day? Try to tire her out more.
]]> Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:39:26 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324484&title=any-ideas-at-all#324484 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : It&#039;s really hard as I am...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324479&title=any-ideas-at-all#324479 Author: FionaS
Subject: 15255
Posted: 13 March 2008 at 10:36am

It's really hard as I am just so worried. I know worry doesn't solve anything but as a mum, anything that is very out of the ordinary is worrying.

It's really easy for me to blame myself but I know that DH and I are very loving and capable parents and have given Elle the very best start in life in all respects, phyically, developmentally, emotionally, spiritually etc. And yet, I find myself blaming myself and trying to find out what I've done wrong. I keep thinking "it must be something I've did that made her so unsettled as a baby" or "maybe its because of me that she is scared of women" (ironic if you meet me as I'm a mouse!). Or, "maybe I've done something to hinder her development that has lead to this strange night behaviour". I know it's not true though, she has had the very best start in life. If there is something wrong, which their may not be, it is in her body and that is not "caused" by anyone.

I guess I'm just too tired

]]> Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:36:45 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324479&title=any-ideas-at-all#324479 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : Yeah but I&#039;m very sure she...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324453&title=any-ideas-at-all#324453 Author: FionaS
Subject: 15255
Posted: 13 March 2008 at 10:07am

Yeah but I'm very sure she is awake. She is really really grumpy today after 4.5 hours awake in the night and will probably need 2 naps I guess.]]> Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:07:04 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324453&title=any-ideas-at-all#324453 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : With sleepwalking though, people...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324451&title=any-ideas-at-all#324451 Author: kebakat
Subject: 15255
Posted: 13 March 2008 at 10:05am

With sleepwalking though, people can have completely normal conversations with others. It's really trippy as my brother sleepwalks sometimes and he has no recollection of the conversations and things hes done but you would swear at the time that he was awake.]]> Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:05:13 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324451&title=any-ideas-at-all#324451 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : Most definately wide awake. No...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324429&title=any-ideas-at-all#324429 Author: FionaS
Subject: 15255
Posted: 13 March 2008 at 9:49am

Most definately wide awake. No doubt about that. If I go in she smiles and laughs and talks. ]]> Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:49:06 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324429&title=any-ideas-at-all#324429 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : Is she definitely awake or is...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324418&title=any-ideas-at-all#324418 Author: Bel
Subject: 15255
Posted: 13 March 2008 at 9:44am

Is she definitely awake or is similar to sleepwalking??

Just a thought?]]> Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:44:09 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324418&title=any-ideas-at-all#324418 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : The other thing is to find out...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324415&title=any-ideas-at-all#324415 Author: miss
Subject: 15255
Posted: 13 March 2008 at 9:41am

The other thing is to find out about various sleep clinics - there is one in hamilton for young bubbas, not sure if that would be where you went or if you would go to the general aklnd one. Not sure of anything other than their existance and their success though, sorry!]]> Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:41:44 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324415&title=any-ideas-at-all#324415 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : I could video it. She basically...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324414&title=any-ideas-at-all#324414 Author: FionaS
Subject: 15255
Posted: 13 March 2008 at 9:40am

I could video it. She basically is on her hands and knees rocking her self back and forth (forwards and backwards) and going "mmmm mmmmm mmmmm". If I go in she looks up with a HUGE smile and does increases the volume. The cot makes a banging/rattling sound when she does it.

Last night she also spent about 10mins giggling.]]> Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:40:03 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324414&title=any-ideas-at-all#324414 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : or maybe try a warm bath or shower...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324413&title=any-ideas-at-all#324413 Author: MyBelly
Subject: 15255
Posted: 13 March 2008 at 9:39am

or maybe try a warm bath or shower with you? have you moved house or anything? it could maybe b a nervous reaction to something?

good luck though hun! ]]> Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:39:37 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324413&title=any-ideas-at-all#324413 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : FionaS wrote:Good idea. Scary...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324405&title=any-ideas-at-all#324405 Author: miss
Subject: 15255
Posted: 13 March 2008 at 9:37am

Originally posted by FionaS FionaS wrote:

Good idea. Scary to think my daughter could need a psychologist though! She has a wonderful home life :(


Now don't you worry about that, I know plenty of children with perfect loving normal home lives who have had to go through a psychologist to sort a behavioural issue. There is no judgement anyone can make from you accessing all the help you need. I just hope they can help you out.]]> Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:37:00 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324405&title=any-ideas-at-all#324405 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : Bombshell wrote:have you asked...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324404&title=any-ideas-at-all#324404 Author: FionaS
Subject: 15255
Posted: 13 March 2008 at 9:36am

Originally posted by Bombshell Bombshell wrote:

have you asked about a referral to Campbell lodge - now Awinitia? (sp?) via your doc - they deal more with behaviours etc and she isnt too young to go....ask doc for a referral s/he will know who i mean.

BTW an idea - and not sure if it is helpful or not...is it worth going in when she starts, picking her up and playing in dimly lit room for ten mins and then doing bedtime routine again? OR goign in and starting her music or whatever she falls asleep to at start of night again when she starts this behaviour?


What do they specialise in?

We've tried various methods of going in or leaving her to it and nothing seems to help.

At the start of then night she simply goes into her go-go bag, cuddles her muslin and goes to sleep. We put her down, say goodnight and leave. She never cries or anything, just goes straight off.]]> Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:36:54 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324404&title=any-ideas-at-all#324404 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : I think Mel has a great idea with...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324402&title=any-ideas-at-all#324402 Author: kebakat
Subject: 15255
Posted: 13 March 2008 at 9:36am

I think Mel has a great idea with getting a video of her doing it!

I too like BS's idea, maybe a distraction of any sort when she starts it]]> Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:36:21 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324402&title=any-ideas-at-all#324402 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : Have you thought of video-ing...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324394&title=any-ideas-at-all#324394 Author: .Mel
Subject: 15255
Posted: 13 March 2008 at 9:29am

Have you thought of video-ing it so people can actually see what she's doing?

I like BS's idea though.]]> Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:29:50 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324394&title=any-ideas-at-all#324394 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : have you asked about a referral...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324382&title=any-ideas-at-all#324382 Author: Bombshell
Subject: 15255
Posted: 13 March 2008 at 9:22am

have you asked about a referral to Campbell lodge - now Awinitia? (sp?) via your doc - they deal more with behaviours etc and she isnt too young to go....ask doc for a referral s/he will know who i mean.

BTW an idea - and not sure if it is helpful or not...is it worth going in when she starts, picking her up and playing in dimly lit room for ten mins and then doing bedtime routine again? OR goign in and starting her music or whatever she falls asleep to at start of night again when she starts this behaviour?]]> Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:22:56 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324382&title=any-ideas-at-all#324382 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : Good idea. Scary to think my...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324325&title=any-ideas-at-all#324325 Author: FionaS
Subject: 15255
Posted: 13 March 2008 at 8:39am

Good idea. Scary to think my daughter could need a psychologist though! She has a wonderful home life :(]]> Thu, 13 Mar 2008 08:39:14 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324325&title=any-ideas-at-all#324325 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : That&#039;s a confusing one. Not...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324320&title=any-ideas-at-all#324320 Author: Andie
Subject: 15255
Posted: 13 March 2008 at 8:34am

That's a confusing one.  Not that I'm suggesting by any means that there's something wrong here, but what about e-mailing one of the OhBaby Experts?  I think I saw a Psychologist amongst them - I may be wrong on what her title was, and sorry I can't seem to find them on the site now.  She'll be trained about all sorts of behavioural issues, so in case it is one, might be worth a shot?  Hope you get some sleep soon - sounds nerve-wrecking! 

]]> Thu, 13 Mar 2008 08:34:30 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324320&title=any-ideas-at-all#324320 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : They say it is strange but that...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324310&title=any-ideas-at-all#324310 Author: FionaS
Subject: 15255
Posted: 13 March 2008 at 8:14am

They say it is strange but that there's nothing they can do about it and as she is developmentally on track it must be ok.

She was awake for 4.5 HOURS last night!!!! I have only had 1 hour sleep.]]> Thu, 13 Mar 2008 08:14:58 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324310&title=any-ideas-at-all#324310 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : what do all the docs etc say about...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324289&title=any-ideas-at-all#324289 Author: ElfsMum
Subject: 15255
Posted: 13 March 2008 at 5:16am

what do all the docs etc say about her behaviour?]]> Thu, 13 Mar 2008 05:16:55 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324289&title=any-ideas-at-all#324289 <![CDATA[ANY ideas at all... : I&#039;ve posted about this before...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324283&title=any-ideas-at-all#324283 Author: FionaS
Subject: 15255
Posted: 13 March 2008 at 2:39am

I've posted about this before but I am getting so desperate. I just need ANY suggestions of who we can see about this.

So far we've seen:
Doctors
Paeds
Plunket
Cranial Osteopath
Naturopath

My girl has been awake for hours most nights for months. She gets on her hands and knees and rocks and makes a loud "mmm, mmm" sound. She keeps doing this for 1 to 3 hours in the middle of the night, usually from midnight up until 2.30 or 3am. She is wide awake when she does it. We've tried the safety sleep but she just moves her body up and down in it and continues with the whole thing. I know it sounds like a very autistic behaviour but she doesn't do it outside of her cot and is a very socially interactive girl.

I've tried moving rooms & using earplugs but I can not sleep through this. Every night I'm awake for hours first because she is so noisey and then because I am down right freaked out about why she is doing this.

ANY suggestions at all would be valuable. I am so sleep deprived (+ now have concern about this new pregnancy). Tonight is it 2.30am and she has been going since before 12. ]]> Thu, 13 Mar 2008 02:39:33 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=15255&PID=324283&title=any-ideas-at-all#324283