OHbaby! Forums : jabs? https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Mon, 06 Apr 2026 16:30:45 +0000 Thu, 01 May 2008 21:52:42 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.05 360 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=16836 <![CDATA[OHbaby! Forums]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_images/web_wiz_forums.png https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/ <![CDATA[jabs? : Thanks Emma! Can&#039;t wait to...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16836&PID=372356&title=jabs#372356 Author: Bobbie
Subject: 16836
Posted: 01 May 2008 at 9:52pm

Thanks Emma! Can't wait to read the info once it's available.

I was gutted that Rowan had to come early as otherwise she'd have qualified for the Prevenar.

]]> Thu, 01 May 2008 21:52:42 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16836&PID=372356&title=jabs#372356 <![CDATA[jabs? : What Aimee said. I spent 3 hours...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16836&PID=372337&title=jabs#372337 Author: Maya
Subject: 16836
Posted: 01 May 2008 at 9:45pm

What Aimee said. I spent 3 hours at a media briefing on the new immunisation schedule, it officially comes into effect on 1 June so we will have some info up on OHbaby! before then.

Basically they have combined the dtap-ipv and hib-hepb into one injection, and this will be on the official schedule from 1 June, altho some docs are already using it due to low stocks of two separate vaccines, and some docs will have stock left over after 1 June so some babies during the transition may still have to have those separately.

The MenzB is finishing. It was never intended to be a long term vaccine, it was an epidemic-response vaccine to help stop the epidemic that occured in the mid-late 90's, hence why there was such a rush to get it made available. Now that the epidemic has slowed, the vaccine is obsolete, but they are reserving the right to add it to the schedule again in future should there be another epidemic.

Prevenar is the new pneumoccocal vaccine, only it's not really new, it's been available in the States, the UK and Australia for years, on their free immunisation schedules for a number of years, and has been available in NZ at a cost for several years. Both my gremlins have had it, they got it free in Australia under Medicare.
Babies who's immunisations commence after June 1st will get the Prevenar, those born 1 Jan - 31 May will be recalled for it.

There are other changes to the schedule which apply to older children, can't remember them all off by heart but we will be publishing the info in the next few weeks. They are also hoping to have the HPV (cervical cancer vaccine) on the schedule for 12 year old girls by the end of this year.

Oh and to clarify, the MenzB and the Prevenar are not at all related. MenzB is for meningococcal B virus, Prevenar is for pneumococcal virus, both can potentially cause meningitis and have similar symptoms but they are completely different diseases. The decision to finish the MenzB as the Prevenar is starting is purely coincidental.

Hope this helps!]]> Thu, 01 May 2008 21:45:16 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16836&PID=372337&title=jabs#372337 <![CDATA[jabs? : Havent read all the replies but...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16836&PID=372212&title=jabs#372212 Author: aimeejoy
Subject: 16836
Posted: 01 May 2008 at 8:44pm

Havent read all the replies but we had Greers 6 week ones today (at 11 weeks). She had 2 injections - one was MenzB, the other is the combined one that used to be 2.

The new combined one (for tetanus, pertussis, diptheria etc) has only recently come in so some clincs will be using up their older stock of the 2 seperately - so still 2 injections.

MenZ B finishes at the end of May, but continues for those that have already started it.

The new one - Prevenar - is free for all babies born from Jan 1, but doesnt start being given until June when Menz B finishes. So babies born Jan to May, will get a call back for Prevenar.

Hope that helps

Just to clarify - they have combined DTaP-IPV (diptheria, tetanus, pertussis/whooping cough, polio) with the Hib-HepB (influenza, hep B) into one vaccine. And its not mixing an old with new one, thats how it comes ready in the vials to be administered.

Edited by aimeejoy]]> Thu, 01 May 2008 20:44:31 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16836&PID=372212&title=jabs#372212 <![CDATA[jabs? : foxxy_one wrote:kebakat why...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16836&PID=372083&title=jabs#372083 Author: kebakat
Subject: 16836
Posted: 01 May 2008 at 7:44pm

Originally posted by foxxy_one foxxy_one wrote:

kebakat why not three at once? I have heard this..and my friend in HK only gets two as well.. i hear you have to have all MENZ by end of the year but that just means all people who started it get to finish it.. ?


Quite simple really..

With menzb, if you get it done really early (as in the schedule) you have to give them 4 jabs rather than 3 if you start it later. Plus we were VERY unsure about menzb because it's pretty unproven. He's since had 2 of the jabs, starting at 8 months.

Also we only wanted 1 in each leg so if he reacted to one we would immediately know which one it was. And we are very thankful we did as he reacted badly to the hip-hepb one. If he had both the standard ones in one leg and menzb in the other we wouldn't have known which of the others was causing his reaction.]]> Thu, 01 May 2008 19:44:26 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16836&PID=372083&title=jabs#372083 <![CDATA[jabs? : I&#039;m sure it&#039;s perfectly...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16836&PID=371998&title=jabs#371998 Author: Tiff
Subject: 16836
Posted: 01 May 2008 at 6:18pm

I'm sure it's perfectly safe, that is how the vaccine is arriving to the doctor (like how some babies are only getting one jab instead of two now) it's not like the nurse is mixing it up herslf!! And I think this is how it's been given overseas for years too??

Edited by Tiff]]> Thu, 01 May 2008 18:18:14 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16836&PID=371998&title=jabs#371998 <![CDATA[jabs? : pip1 wrote:I think the new...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16836&PID=371897&title=jabs#371897 Author: tishy
Subject: 16836
Posted: 01 May 2008 at 4:40pm

Originally posted by pip1 pip1 wrote:

I think the new one depends on when they were born. My boy wont be getting it unless i pay for it and I understand those born after 1 jan are eligable for it to be funded.


That's what I thought too but when I asked the nurse today they said we wouldn't be getting it.
Dunno, maybe she wasn't aware of it. ]]> Thu, 01 May 2008 16:40:37 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16836&PID=371897&title=jabs#371897 <![CDATA[jabs? : tiff? in with what one? so they...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16836&PID=371861&title=jabs#371861 Author: ElfsMum
Subject: 16836
Posted: 01 May 2008 at 4:17pm

tiff? in with what one? so they combine the new vaccine with an old one..sounds dangerous to me:( yeah he was born feb 1st pip. ]]> Thu, 01 May 2008 16:17:26 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16836&PID=371861&title=jabs#371861 <![CDATA[jabs? : Yup that&#039;s right. ]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16836&PID=371860&title=jabs#371860 Author: Tiff
Subject: 16836
Posted: 01 May 2008 at 4:16pm

Yup that's right.]]> Thu, 01 May 2008 16:16:53 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16836&PID=371860&title=jabs#371860 <![CDATA[jabs? : I think the new one depends on...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16836&PID=371854&title=jabs#371854 Author: pip1
Subject: 16836
Posted: 01 May 2008 at 4:12pm

I think the new one depends on when they were born. My boy wont be getting it unless i pay for it and I understand those born after 1 jan are eligable for it to be funded.]]> Thu, 01 May 2008 16:12:23 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16836&PID=371854&title=jabs#371854 <![CDATA[jabs? : They are saying if you have started...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16836&PID=371847&title=jabs#371847 Author: Tiff
Subject: 16836
Posted: 01 May 2008 at 4:08pm

They are saying if you have started the MenzB you need to finish it as well as getting the new one as the are immuniasing against different meningitus strain. But the good news is the new vaccine is included with one of the old ones so no extra needles. (This is according to my doctor) And Tishy it seems weird that the nurse was telling you what immunisations your girls would be getting??

Edited by Tiff]]> Thu, 01 May 2008 16:08:07 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16836&PID=371847&title=jabs#371847 <![CDATA[jabs? : For my sons 6 week and 3 month...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16836&PID=371842&title=jabs#371842 Author: pip1
Subject: 16836
Posted: 01 May 2008 at 4:02pm

For my sons 6 week and 3 month jabs he got 3, but for his 5 month jabs yesterday he only got 2.

The nurse told me they have combined the dtap-ipv and hib-hepb (i diddnt know that off by heart i got the book out) so he got that and the menz. She also told me that there are some doctors that still have old stock so they are using it up before starting the combined ones.

She said she is telling her patients this because chatting at coffee groups and the likes will cause some mothers to worry they have not got them all.]]> Thu, 01 May 2008 16:02:06 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16836&PID=371842&title=jabs#371842 <![CDATA[jabs? : i can imagine 4 yr old ones are...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16836&PID=371812&title=jabs#371812 Author: ElfsMum
Subject: 16836
Posted: 01 May 2008 at 3:44pm

i can imagine 4 yr old ones are awful but bribery may work then:)
kebakat why not three at once? I have heard this..and my friend in HK only gets two as well.. i hear you have to have all MENZ by end of the year but that just means all people who started it get to finish it.. ?]]> Thu, 01 May 2008 15:44:55 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16836&PID=371812&title=jabs#371812 <![CDATA[jabs? : Daniel only had 2 jabs for all...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16836&PID=371795&title=jabs#371795 Author: kebakat
Subject: 16836
Posted: 01 May 2008 at 3:28pm

Daniel only had 2 jabs for all his imms. We never let them do 3 at once. So we delayed menzb.]]> Thu, 01 May 2008 15:28:23 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16836&PID=371795&title=jabs#371795 <![CDATA[jabs? : Oh no I mean he got 3 jabs and...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16836&PID=371687&title=jabs#371687 Author: Danash
Subject: 16836
Posted: 01 May 2008 at 1:57pm

Oh no I mean he got 3 jabs and will have to have an extra one when he gets recalled - that seems mean.  But yep all for a good cause!

I didn't do the Pamol prior to the jabs - our doc recommended against it, then when Daniel had to see the doc a couple of days after the jab our doc wasn't there so saw another doc and he suggested doing it prior....  I told him the other doc recommended against it and he said it really is a personal choice

]]> Thu, 01 May 2008 13:57:44 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16836&PID=371687&title=jabs#371687 <![CDATA[jabs? : i cant remember how many the boys...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16836&PID=371670&title=jabs#371670 Author: Bizzy
Subject: 16836
Posted: 01 May 2008 at 1:48pm

i cant remember how many the boys got and eden hasnt had her 6 week ones yet... i never gave the boys pamol before hand and never had any probs with them. I have to get gabriels 4 yr old ones soon too so will prob get them both done at the same time...i am not looking forward to gabriel getting his done... there will be tears i am sure...]]> Thu, 01 May 2008 13:48:22 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16836&PID=371670&title=jabs#371670 <![CDATA[jabs? : oh no i didnt give pamol before...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16836&PID=371654&title=jabs#371654 Author: ElfsMum
Subject: 16836
Posted: 01 May 2008 at 1:37pm

oh no i didnt give pamol before im quite iffy bout giving it before 4 months but did give it after jabs last time...might do it next time..he seems fine much happier than last time.. we need a proper thermometer hough we have the stupid arm one:(! they should use numbing gel it seems so mean! yeah she said it gets easier but i assumed it got harder....

verena seems mean but is good cause it means he gets an extra set of protection..oh do you mean 3 instead of 2..yes that is mean:(

yeah im not a feeding while they get them done kinda person ... :( ]]> Thu, 01 May 2008 13:37:20 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16836&PID=371654&title=jabs#371654 <![CDATA[jabs? : I time the jabs for when my baby...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16836&PID=371644&title=jabs#371644 Author: daikini
Subject: 16836
Posted: 01 May 2008 at 1:33pm

I time the jabs for when my baby is due for a feed as often as possible... then I hold them tightly and they feed while the nurse gives the injections, then swap sides for the other one... my children are usually too busy scoffing milk to do more than pull off (breastfed), look surprised and squwark at me in protest, then latch back on and keep drinking!

Worked with Kiya having a bottle at one of her sets of jabs too... however, I lived less than 2 minutes walk from the doctors, so I was able to warm the bottle at home and she was of an age where she sat upright on my knee to drink it.]]> Thu, 01 May 2008 13:33:29 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16836&PID=371644&title=jabs#371644 <![CDATA[jabs? : Hi KA, i posted this in our fourm......]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16836&PID=371635&title=jabs#371635 Author: Danash
Subject: 16836
Posted: 01 May 2008 at 1:29pm

Hi KA, i posted this in our fourm...  but Daniel got the 3 jabs coz they had to use up there stocks.  Apparently he will be recalled for the new jab????  Seems a bit mean!

]]> Thu, 01 May 2008 13:29:02 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16836&PID=371635&title=jabs#371635 <![CDATA[jabs? : I think the first one was the...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16836&PID=371632&title=jabs#371632 Author: MrsMojo
Subject: 16836
Posted: 01 May 2008 at 1:27pm

I think the first one was the hardest for me (I bawled all afternoon afterwards). As they get older the first jab's still a surprise but subsequent ones aren't so they struggle. I get the nurse to administer them as quick as she can without a break in between.

Did you give him pamol 30 mins before the appt? That helps. There's also a numbing gel you can buy from the chemist to put on the leg before the needle goes in, you don't need a script.

eta: I've never used the numbing gel though.

Edited by MrsMojo]]> Thu, 01 May 2008 13:27:26 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16836&PID=371632&title=jabs#371632 <![CDATA[jabs? : ahhhh thanks:) i did wonder why...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16836&PID=371611&title=jabs#371611 Author: ElfsMum
Subject: 16836
Posted: 01 May 2008 at 1:14pm

ahhhh thanks:) i did wonder why they had two in one one in another.. does it get harder as they get older to do it?not like i can bribe him with food till th e15mths one as he isnt allowed most food till one:( ]]> Thu, 01 May 2008 13:14:45 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16836&PID=371611&title=jabs#371611 <![CDATA[jabs? : Michaela got 3 too. The nurse...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16836&PID=371609&title=jabs#371609 Author: MrsMojo
Subject: 16836
Posted: 01 May 2008 at 1:13pm

Michaela got 3 too. The nurse explained that they keep them seperate so that if there's a reaction they can easily identify what she's reacting to. That's also why Menz B was in a different leg, it was a new immunisation back then and they wanted to be able to monitor any adverse reactions.]]> Thu, 01 May 2008 13:13:42 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16836&PID=371609&title=jabs#371609 <![CDATA[jabs? : Tom alwasy had 3. ]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16836&PID=371603&title=jabs#371603 Author: peanut butter
Subject: 16836
Posted: 01 May 2008 at 1:08pm

Tom alwasy had 3.]]> Thu, 01 May 2008 13:08:30 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16836&PID=371603&title=jabs#371603 <![CDATA[jabs? : so now it will all be combined?...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16836&PID=371601&title=jabs#371601 Author: ElfsMum
Subject: 16836
Posted: 01 May 2008 at 1:08pm

so now it will all be combined? so next time less needles? and why wont you be getting the new ones?]]> Thu, 01 May 2008 13:08:09 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16836&PID=371601&title=jabs#371601 <![CDATA[jabs? : They are just using up the stock...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16836&PID=371597&title=jabs#371597 Author: tishy
Subject: 16836
Posted: 01 May 2008 at 1:06pm

They are just using up the stock of medicine that they have first. Makes more sense than throwing out perfectly fine medicine.

Thankfully we got 2 injections though.

We got the MenzB but won't be getting the new ones , so the nurse told me anyway.

I remember going for jabs before holidays before and DH had to get an extra injection because I got the last combined dose.

Edited by tishy]]> Thu, 01 May 2008 13:06:21 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16836&PID=371597&title=jabs#371597 <![CDATA[jabs? : I&#039;m confused...doesn&#039;t...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16836&PID=371590&title=jabs#371590 Author: ElfsMum
Subject: 16836
Posted: 01 May 2008 at 1:02pm

I'm confused...doesn't take much:) hehe..

anyway E just had his jabs today..he got two in one leg and one in the other...so got three jabs..some people only getting two....why is it different ...how come some places combine but my doc doesnt and my boy has to have extra needles?:( and to clarify as well he will finish the menz ones then he gets the new ones free as well cause he was born after jan 1??]]> Thu, 01 May 2008 13:02:19 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=16836&PID=371590&title=jabs#371590