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   <title><![CDATA[Sushi :   Maya wrote: Not at all! The...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19614">white_rabbit</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17319<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 22 May 2008 at 4:35pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Maya" alt="Originally posted by Maya" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Maya wrote:</strong><br /><br /><br />Not at all! The only way baby could get listeriosis post birth would be if you fed him or her something contaminated, or (highly unlikely) ate something contaminated and had traces of it on your hands when you fed bub or prepared feeds, so as long as you wash your hands etc. you're fine.<br /><br />It really only is a risk during pregnancy because a) your immune system is compromised and b)it can cross the placental barrier without presenting as symptomatic in the mother.</td></tr></table><br /><br />Oh, thank God!!! Guess what hubby will be doing after I give birth..... <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Sushi :   KABJ99 wrote: PPS sweet stuff...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19055">maysie</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17319<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 May 2008 at 1:22pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by KABJ99" alt="Originally posted by KABJ99" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>KABJ99 wrote:</strong><br /><br /><br />PPS sweet stuff like cakes (no cream) or muffins etc are okay as sugar is a natural inhibitor of bacteria&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</td></tr></table><br /><br />I like this bit :P<br />]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Sushi : Ive found it quite tricky when...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18232">Shezamumof3</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17319<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 May 2008 at 10:42am<br /><br />Ive found it quite tricky when Im out and about and Im REALLY hungry, where I would normally grab a sammie or sushi or subway etc I now cant and its so annoying. Especially over summer when I didnt want hot food I wanted a nice chicken and avacado sammie or a plain ham sammie but couldnt GAH so annoying, but definitly NOT worth the risk, so Ive only had hot ham and Ive had subway once or twice with the meat WELL heated.<br /><br />I will eat hot meat pies from the bakery though, I was never told not to eat them. I was told to stay away from the likes of KFC and like any kind of chicken that I havent cooked myself.]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Sushi : Hi Guys  While pregnant I would...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19130">KABJ99</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17319<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 May 2008 at 9:22am<br /><br />Hi Guys<br /><br />While pregnant I would advise that you stay away from anything that has rice in it, unless you have cooked it fresh yourself. <br /><br />What most people don't realise is that rice is one of the biggest causes of food poisioning around. Raw rice is fine but when it is cooked the protein structure in it changes and you shoould treat it like you would chicken and other meats.<br /><br />When rice is cooked it should be spread out on a large tray to cool rapidly and then be covered and refrigerated. Reheat only once and it MUST be piping hot before you eat it.<br /><br />2 hours is the maximum limit before bacteria growth reaches levels that make it unsafe to eat and this includes the cooking, cooling and production of the product into something else and then the serving of it.<br /><br />While I know it is a pain and you might be craving certain things, unless you have made it yourself to be honest I would advise against eating anything savoury or cream/dairy filled from any restaurant, cafe, takeaway, Supermarket, delis etc. Some of the food hygiene practices and cooking methods at these places are very suspect.<br />It's not worth the risk and it's only for 9 months!<br /><br />PS. I was a fully qualified working chef for 10 years before changing careers and knowing what goes on I am certainly not going to take a chance on risking my baby's life.<br /><br />PPS sweet stuff like cakes (no cream) or muffins etc are okay as sugar is a natural inhibitor of bacteria&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Sushi : Ditto that Maya, I cant think...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19341">cat007</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17319<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 May 2008 at 11:06pm<br /><br />Ditto that Maya, I cant think of anything worse than canned chicken.  Yuck.  I have gone off the whole idea of eating sushi this pregnancy - the thought churns my stomach.  On the otherhand - I cant wait to eat shellfish again - muscles, scallops etc here I come!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=207">Maya</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17319<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 May 2008 at 9:05pm<br /><br />Why is it that I happily eat canned tuna, but the thought of canned chicken makes me <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley11.gif" border="0">]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18557">Helen21</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17319<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 May 2008 at 8:37pm<br /><br />YUM I want a custard square!!!<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />I just thought I'd add white_rabbit they now have preserved chicken in cans that is not different from eating the tuna so you could put chicken in your sushi!<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19055">maysie</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17319<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 May 2008 at 7:47pm<br /><br />mmmmmm Sushi! FOr the record, my cousins wife is Japanese and she ate all that food through both her pregnancies but of course it was all homemade.<br />But for me, I cut out everything they said to be careful of. Am too scared no matter how small the risk <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0"> <br />But, my sister has been told she is not welcome to visit me at hospital if she doesn't arrive with a sushi pack and a custard square hehe <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Sushi : Slightly off topic but just wanted...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=16220">peachy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17319<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 May 2008 at 7:03pm<br /><br />Slightly off topic but just wanted to add, I had a severe 24 hour bug with daioreha (sp?)and vomiting when Lauren was just 4 weeks old and I continued b/f even though I was very ill.  Lauren did not catch what I had as it couldn't be transferred through my breastmilk and my breastmilk gave her immunity from catching it from me!!  My m/w assured me of this, and she was right!<br /><br />Slightly off topic, but I just wanted to let people know a great benefit of b/f through sickness and that it can be done.<br /><br />Now back to the subject at hand....]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Sushi :   white_rabbit wrote:Because...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=207">Maya</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17319<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 May 2008 at 6:49pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by white_rabbit" alt="Originally posted by white_rabbit" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>white_rabbit wrote:</strong><br /><br />Because you can transfer the listeria through your breastmilk, apparantly. .</td></tr></table><br /><br />Not at all! The only way baby could get listeriosis post birth would be if you fed him or her something contaminated, or (highly unlikely) ate something contaminated and had traces of it on your hands when you fed bub or prepared feeds, so as long as you wash your hands etc. you're fine.<br /><br />It really only is a risk during pregnancy because a) your immune system is compromised and b)it can cross the placental barrier without presenting as symptomatic in the mother.]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Sushi : but you aren&amp;#039;t suseptible...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18396">ElfsMum</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17319<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 May 2008 at 6:22pm<br /><br />but you aren't suseptible like you were when you were preg as your immune system is back to normal(see Emma's post) of course you could still get it but its unlikely.. <br /><br />i totally get how it is way too much effort:) ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Sushi : Im eating it after I have him...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18232">Shezamumof3</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17319<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 May 2008 at 6:22pm<br /><br />Im eating it after I have him lol<br />I havent heard about listeria being tranfered thru breast milk? I thought it was only harmful for elderly ppl and pregnant women, it didnt say anything about breastfeeding in the info i got given on listeria...hmmm ill ask my midwife about that tomorrow I think, to be sure before I pig out on it lol<br /><br />]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19614">white_rabbit</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17319<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 May 2008 at 5:27pm<br /><br />Because you can transfer the listeria through your breastmilk, apparantly. Which is annoying because as good as my homemade sushi was, it just isn't quite the same. Plus it takes a whole lot of effort just for a 3 minute meal!!! Maybe I'm just lazy though....]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18396">ElfsMum</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17319<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 May 2008 at 5:24pm<br /><br />i never had any problems having it while bf..why would you need to avoid when bf?]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19614">white_rabbit</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17319<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 May 2008 at 5:18pm<br /><br />I made my own with canned tuna. I want to try chicken next but if we can't even eat our own cold chicken then perhaps not. Apparantly you still have to avoid it when breast feeding also. Booo. I was looking forward to sending my partner out to get sh*tloads of it as soon as I gave birth!!! <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18031">tropics</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17319<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 May 2008 at 4:44pm<br /><br />mmmmmmmmmmmmmm sushi!!!! the one at Albany mall and Sylvia Park mall just looks so damn good!!!! im so pigging out on sushi once bubs is here <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> I just miss it so much!<br /><br /><br />hehe ive already posted it in this thread but man I just am hanging out big time for sushi...<br /><br />I think its worth missing out for the end product, EMma I didnt know that you could get listeria and pass it though to bubs without knowing yourself- scary stuff!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18396">ElfsMum</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17319<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 May 2008 at 4:35pm<br /><br />peachy i never had vege as i dont like the patties..vegetarian is considered safe but i think lots of people avoid it cause they dont know if the veges have been washed etc too. ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10326">Deez</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17319<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 May 2008 at 4:25pm<br /><br />OMG i ate subway while i was pregnant with Lycan and i had it the other night for dinner.....(only the hot meats tho')<br /><br />As for sushi, i was eating that up until i found out i was pregnant and then i had to give it up and i cant wait to have it again....BUT isn't that funny how you eat what you want when you don't know your pregnant then you find out and wham bang there it goes out the window....]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=16220">peachy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17319<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 May 2008 at 4:10pm<br /><br />I ate Subway, atleast once or twice a week the whole way through my pregnancy as I travelled for my job, so it was either Subway or go hungry!  I lived out of motels or my car (I was a Regional Account Manager so travelled the country every week for 7 years).  I often flew and taking a packed lunch would not have worked as I could not keep it cold.<br /><br />I always got vegetarian Subway and never once got sick!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18396">ElfsMum</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17319<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 May 2008 at 4:07pm<br /><br />sorry thats what i meant to say 2 months of having it everyday after i had him..it just sucks in my mall you have to walk past it to get anywhere!:) i got Mum to  buy some from hospital cafe! ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18232">Shezamumof3</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17319<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 May 2008 at 4:01pm<br /><br />Ive had subway a few times, only the hot meats though. I havent had sushi, i wont risk it, its not worth it in my opinion.<br /><br />Im hanging out for it now though! As soon as i got to botany after Ive had him im getting Chicken teryaki sushi!! **drool**]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18396">ElfsMum</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17319<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 May 2008 at 3:56pm<br /><br />i avoided Subway(my fav) during my preg until the 3rd tri...)when my mw said it was fine as long as you didn' thave ham or cold meats..so i had meatballs and got it toasted..i did feel bad everytime though..but having worked there i knew they looked after veges etc properly and went first  thing in the morning..its  a personal choice but i didn't give in till 32 weeks and as i say felt bad everytime:) its what you are personally comfortable with i think...oh and it took me 2 months of sushi everyday to get sick of it when i had him:) ! ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18557">Helen21</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17319<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 May 2008 at 2:52pm<br /><br />I know of a few women who ate sushi from the malls, as well as subway and all the other things they tell you not to eat 'just in case' of food posioning during their pregnancies, and they all have had healthy bubs. <br /><br />emachan mention subway as being something you shouldn't eat during pregnancy, does this include the subs with heated meats or meatballs? I have been craving it sooo bad! And I still have 34weeks to go, how will I survive if I can't eat it<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />I guess subway is my form of sushi<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19107">MissAngel</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17319<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 May 2008 at 10:43am<br /><br />I wonder if the sushi places do platters that I can have delivered to the hospital :P I'm hanging out for salmon sushi *drool*]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18897">fire_engine</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17319<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 May 2008 at 9:24am<br /><br />I talked DH into making homemade for me (after MIL taught him how to make it!), so we have vege sushi a cuple of times a month.  Can't wait to have chicken teriyaki sushi though.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18052">emachan</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17319<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 18 May 2008 at 11:53am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Maya" alt="Originally posted by Maya" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Maya wrote:</strong><br /><br /><br /><br />The risks are pretty low, on average 2 cases a year reported (this years wee epidemic notwithstanding) BUT the consequences if you do get it are devastating, and it IS only a really short period of time that you have to do without.</td></tr></table><br /><br />Yeah, in the long run it is, and it is so worth it for the end product!!<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=207">Maya</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17319<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 May 2008 at 7:43pm<br /><br />The problem with Listeriosis is that it mainly affects people with compromised immune systems - the elderly and pregnant women - as those who have robust immune systems can fight it off.<br /><br />If you get it non-pregnant, you'll get flu like symptoms and vomiting, and usually get better pretty quickly (altho a friend of Mum's from church who is in his 80's got it and had 2 weeks in hospital <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0">). <br /><br />When you're pregnant, however, the listeria bacteria can cross the placenta, and you might not neccessarily get listeriosis yourself or have any symptoms, but it can cause miscarriage or stillbirth.<br /><br />The risks are pretty low, on average 2 cases a year reported (this years wee epidemic notwithstanding) BUT the consequences if you do get it are devastating, and it IS only a really short period of time that you have to do without.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18610">josephnia</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17319<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 May 2008 at 7:40pm<br /><br />I've had teriyaki chicken sushi several times but only homemade and while the rice was still warm. It is mostly the rice that is the problem with food poisoning, apparently it is the perfect breeding ground for the germs for some reason (forget what it is now)]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18052">emachan</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17319<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 May 2008 at 7:33pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by katie1" alt="Originally posted by katie1" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>katie1 wrote:</strong><br /><br />If you asked at the restaurant if they make it fresh and they said yes, would you then trust getting some vegetarian sushi?<br />I had some the other night - the rice was still a bit warm but after reading this I wonder if perhaps I shouldn't do that again!  <br />It did taste FANTASTIC so I guess it was a good last meal of sushi for a while.</td></tr></table><br /><br />Actually, I forgot about this when I typed my other response. I did have some sushi made at a Japanese restuarant (Yamagen at the Crowne Plaza in Chch). It was vegetarian and I only got it as it was part of my set menu (vegetarian - cos all the other ones had sashimi!) and it was fine. <br />I figured that as it was a 5 star restuarant, it should've been prepared pretty recently and if I got sick, or something happened I would've sued them or something.<br /><br />I know of a few women who ate sushi from the malls, as well as subway and all the other things they tell you not to eat 'just in case' of food posioning during their pregnancies, and they all have had healthy bubs.<br />]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=16220">peachy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17319<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 May 2008 at 6:51pm<br /><br />I had homemade several times when pregnant, my Mum makes it all the time!<br /><br />First thing I ordered after Lauren arrived was shop bought sushi and then I could not stomach it at all!!  Typical!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19176">FionaO</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17319<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 May 2008 at 6:29pm<br /><br /><P align=left>I started off super strict and not eating sushi, but about 2 weeks ago I caved and had some chicken teriaki rolls and they were the best. Then we had some buffet food at work and I didn't eat anything that risky and I felt yucky afterwards so going to stop being complacent.</P><P align=left>So no more sushi treats for me. And yes I was told it was the rice that was the bad bit.</P><P align=left>If you get Listeria what happens?</P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18031">tropics</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17319<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 May 2008 at 6:09pm<br /><br />Ive avoided it, apparently its the rice as well as the other ingredients that we arent supose to eat, I think its ok if you make it yourself and eat is straight away<br /><br />I miss sushi SO much! its the one thing I really miss, I even dream about it and know exactly where Im stopping on the way hoem from birthcare!!! im going to eat as much sushi as I can possilby fit in<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10360">pepsi</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17319<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 May 2008 at 6:01pm<br /><br />I know it's the raw fish and the cold chicken that is the main problem, but surely the women in Japan don't avoid sushi or sashimi! Hehe <br /><br />I definitely avoided it altogether when pregnant with Alyssa, but this time around I have had it a few times (with chicken). Decided to stop again when I had an overwhelming sense of guilt that I could harm the baby by being so complacent.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18396">ElfsMum</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17319<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 May 2008 at 4:54pm<br /><br />i know but far out... you'd think it would be kinda safe..but nooooooo!!!:) just thought i'd warn you! <span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by foxxy_one</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19107">MissAngel</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17319<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 May 2008 at 4:52pm<br /><br />lol this is hospital food you're talking about ;) <br />]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18396">ElfsMum</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17319<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 May 2008 at 4:49pm<br /><br />it is personal choice but you are 20 times more suseptable to listeria and other such infections(when preg)... so yeah it is actually about whether you are preg or not:( ! sorry .. as someone said 9 months is such a short time!! i was digusted at CWH feeding me cold chicken and cold roast beef(ate the beef without thinking then found out about a listeria scare..thankfully not in chch!! you'd think in  a maternity ward you'd be safe!! ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19107">MissAngel</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17319<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 May 2008 at 4:25pm<br /><br />I've been eating vegetarian sushi - but then i've been eating everything anyway (cept shellfish) wasnt aware it was the rice that was the issue. You're gonna get sick wether you're pg or not really, luck of the draw really - personal choice of course! ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17966">MelanieAndBree</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17319<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 May 2008 at 4:10pm<br /><br />Ugh i nearly died not eating sushi. But man was it good when i could finally eat it!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17854">emz</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17319<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 May 2008 at 3:58pm<br /><br />I just wouldn't risk it - 9 months is a very short time really (although I know about the cravings) and you want to give baby the best chance so if that means steering clear, then I guess that's just what you do.<br /><br />Hehe Bobbie, first non-hospital food for me = KB's chicken mayo roll yum! (sorry ladies that can't have them at the mo!)]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10440">katie1</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17319<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 May 2008 at 2:43pm<br /><br />If you asked at the restaurant if they make it fresh and they said yes, would you then trust getting some vegetarian sushi?<br />I had some the other night - the rice was still a bit warm but after reading this I wonder if perhaps I shouldn't do that again!  <br />It did taste FANTASTIC so I guess it was a good last meal of sushi for a while.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18052">emachan</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17319<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 May 2008 at 2:33pm<br /><br />I am so craving sushi right now - I haven't made it at home yet since I've been pregnant, because last time I made it, it turned out to be a bit of a disaster!!!<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17802">Bobbie</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17319<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 May 2008 at 1:10pm<br /><br />My friend did a 'make your own sushi night' at her place when I was 7 months pregnant. I ate so much I practically rolled out of there. It was great though as it tided me over until the birth. <br /><br />First non hospital meal = sushi <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19041">Nefertiti</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17319<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 May 2008 at 1:10pm<br /><br />Thanks for the advice.  I was pretty sure that was the case.<br />Does anyone know why?  Something to do with listeria isn't it?  I'm presuming this causes a stomach bug type of reaction which is harmful to the unborn baby?<br />If this was to happen, how soon would someone get ill?  Perhaps they had something before knowing they are pregnant?]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=207">Maya</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17319<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 May 2008 at 1:08pm<br /><br />I had homemade when I was preg with the gremlins, wouldn't trust store bought at all, coz like others have said, the rice can be nasty. ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18232">Shezamumof3</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17319<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 May 2008 at 1:05pm<br /><br />I got told no sushi at all, the rice is risky to eat aswell.<br /><br />Im hanging out for sushi! 3 or 4 more weeks then I cna have some, yayyy!!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4942">LeahandJoel</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17319<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 May 2008 at 12:47pm<br /><br /><P align=left>Have just found the food safety in pregnancy chart the midwives hand out and it says </P><P align=left>Don't eat store bought at all</P><P align=left>Home made - use freshly cooked rice, no raw meat or seafood, eat immediately, don't eat leftovers.</P><P align=left>Hope that helps</P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19359">SarahP08</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17319<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 May 2008 at 12:46pm<br /><br />We don't call it spew-shi for nothing! <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4942">LeahandJoel</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17319<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 May 2008 at 12:33pm<br /><br /><P align=left>I thought it was only store bought you should avoid but if you made it yourself and ate it straight away it was ok?</P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17802">Bobbie</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17319<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 May 2008 at 12:32pm<br /><br />Actually it's the rice that is the problem.<br /><br />If the sushi is made properly - i.e. traditionally - then rice vinegar is used and this actually has properties which kill the bacteria and make the sushi safe to eat. That's why when you buy sushi it isn't refrigerated. <br /><br />The problem is you can never be sure if it has been made properly so you run the risk of getting ill.<br /><br />If you want to make it yourself so guaranteed fresh it's ok but stick to chicken that you have prepared and chilled yourself or just vege fillings.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10436">Andie</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17319<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 May 2008 at 12:32pm<br /><br /><P align=left>Cold rice is a no-no in pregnancy too - it gets germey.&nbsp; Be careful with re-heated rice too, it's gotta be piping hot.&nbsp; Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, 'cause sushi can be divine!&nbsp; </P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19116">Leahsmummy </a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17319<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 May 2008 at 12:25pm<br /><br />And chicken coz you are not meant to eat cold meat or how old the chicken is or when it got made....]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19297">catisla</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17319<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 May 2008 at 12:14pm<br /><br />I got told to just avoid all of it - think possibly because you cant be certain how long the rice etc has been sitting around since being cooked]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19041">Nefertiti</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 17319<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 May 2008 at 11:57am<br /><br />Is sushi ok during early pregnancy.  The sushi I am meaning is one containing no raw fish.  So things like cooked chicken, cream cheese, avocado, pineapple, veges and off course rice and seaweed.  No, the ingredients are not all in the same piece.<br />I am thinking obviously raw fish it out.  And would the one with a couple shrimps and crabmeat be out?<br /><br />I'm pretty sure I know the answer, but wondered about the chicken ones.<br /><br />Thanks in advance :)]]>
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