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   <title><![CDATA[Adopti&#111;n? :   Bobbie wrote:  That&amp;#039;s...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18705">TysMummy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 18395<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 March 2009 at 7:43pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Bobbie" alt="Originally posted by Bobbie" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Bobbie wrote:</strong><br /><br /><br /><br />That's why when we were looking into adoption I didn't even consider domestic. I think the system in NZ is flawed.</td></tr></table><br />totally agreed........my parents have foster kids too and you see major flaws ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17802">Bobbie</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 18395<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 March 2009 at 5:48pm<br /><br />Yep I've heard a few horror stories like that about domestic adoptions - not the beatings but about the child being claimed back after an extended period. I even was friends with a dad whose child was adopted to his aunt and then the birth mum came on Christmas eve to collect it.<br /><br />That's why when we were looking into adoption I didn't even consider domestic. I think the system in NZ is flawed. ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21994">xLethalCocktailx</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 18395<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 March 2009 at 8:44pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by TysMummy" alt="Originally posted by TysMummy" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>TysMummy wrote:</strong><br /><br />i wouldnt even go through CYFS if you can help it....keep putting the word out and choice private adoption.............my parents did this hd little baby girl for 6mnths and the birth father contacted CYFS they kid went back to birth mother (social worker should have been fired) the kid has since been one of the kids that now has brain damage due to beatings...........on the other hand my friend went through CYFS and everything is good with them.</td></tr></table><br /><br />Oh my gosh, that is truly terrible! ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18705">TysMummy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 18395<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 March 2009 at 6:59pm<br /><br />i wouldnt even go through CYFS if you can help it....keep putting the word out and choice private adoption.............my parents did this hd little baby girl for 6mnths and the birth father contacted CYFS they kid went back to birth mother (social worker should have been fired) the kid has since been one of the kids that now has brain damage due to beatings...........on the other hand my friend went through CYFS and everything is good with them.]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 18:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17802">Bobbie</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 18395<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 March 2009 at 5:57pm<br /><br />NZ only has intercountry adoption agreements with a few countries <br /><br />Here's the <a href="http://www.cyf.govt.nz/1647.htm" target="_blank">CYFs page</a><br /><br />This <a href="http://www.icanz.gen.nz/overview.html" target="_blank">page</a> has the table with the countries NZ has intercountry adoption agreements with.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19848">jaycee</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 18395<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 March 2009 at 3:15pm<br /><br />before you start down the adoption from overseas path I *strongly* recomend that you contact the Dept of Internal Affairs - this process can be a legal minefield and as first said about South Africa, not all intercountry adoptions are compatible with New Zealand law, even if they are legal in that country. <br /><br />You would need to to ring the 0800 number and ask to speak to the Determinations Team. Good luck to you all, it must be a big step to take. ]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19145">first</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 18395<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 March 2009 at 1:27pm<br /><br />I have experience of adoptions in South Africa. I worked in an orphanage there for a year and we had many many adoptions take place.<br />Unfortunitly New Zealand isn't allowed to adopt from South Africa but there are still many things I could probably answer for you. <br /><br />Before I end my post I just wanted to add that I think adoption is truely a diffucult process but so well rewarding!! Remember too that often the kids you end up adopting where first loved by someone else and although they are truely your son or daughter that other person may still love to hear how you are getting on.]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 13:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10366">susieq</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 18395<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 March 2009 at 11:45am<br /><br />and the lady at Caitlyn's school who adopted the three from the Philippines and the two Russians is currently going for another child from the Philippines]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Adopti&#111;n? : maudie23, if you do want to adopt...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18882">Chickoin</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 18395<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 March 2009 at 10:19am<br /><br />maudie23, if you do want to adopt from overseas I know a lady who can help you in the Philippinnes, PM me if you are interested.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10235">caitlynsmygirl</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 18395<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 March 2009 at 9:29am<br /><br />There is a lady at Caitlyns school who has adopted triplets from the Philippines (that was about 5 years ago ) then 2 and a bit years ago they went to Russia and adopted a little boy, but before they did they decided to check that he had no other siblings around the place , and guess what ? in another orphanage he did ! a sister , and they had never met each other, they adopted both so now the brother and sister are growing up together .<br />She (mum) says its a long rather drawn out process and they really take you through the ringer but the result is worth it .<br /><br />There was a lady that was on here who adopted a very cute little girl from China , Mia was the little girls name I think ...any one know what happened to them? ]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21010">jlove</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 18395<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 March 2009 at 9:40pm<br /><br />Hello there,<br /><br />anyone out ther that has experienced an overseas adoption?i would greatly appreciate another person to talk to about the process, we have just launched ourselves into it and are just waiting for a referrel from an agency in Russia and Ukraine. could be a long wait or a short one, weve made it a little easier on ourselves by adopting an older child (considered to be over the age of 2) or young sibling groups, which makes the agency fast track everything as they really want these kids to go to good homes and get out of the poorly run orphanages (nothing bad being said for the staff but for the governments overthere). So if any one is also going through this process or has already een please let me know. its a scary process.<br /><br />]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 21:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Adopti&#111;n? : as above - contact CYF&amp;#039;s...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18347">topcat</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 18395<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 25 June 2008 at 10:22am<br /><br />as above - contact CYF's - google them up on the internet with adoption & there is some good information.  The first step is to attend an information session which covers the basics.  You dont have to decide anything then, but take an application form when you leave .  If you apply you are not tied in and can change your mind whenever. The forms are some personal details, plus lets them do police check, get medical from GP, they contact nominated friends for character reference, etc etc...<br />If all this comes back then you can be invited to day 1 & day 2 (day 3 if interested in O/S adoptions) - these are full day sessions where you get more information from social workers, people who have been adopted etc etc...  We are going to day 1&2 next month...  But we are undecided about adoption but at least this way we are in the system.  it has teaken over 6 months so far to get to here.  If we are approved then you do a profile and the mother then decides... as someone above said they can just choose based on something in your profile they liked ... so you could be waiting an age for someone to pick you or you could get chosen quite quickly - who knows!!!  thats the scarey bit I  guess...  But if you want more info I can post after we have been to our Day 1 session&gt;&gt;&gt;????]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 10:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10436">Andie</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 18395<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 June 2008 at 2:49pm<br /><br /><P align=left>Yep, whether it's choosing to adopt a baby, or have a baby adopted out, contact CYFS (don't be scared off, the adoptions unit is separate from the rest of their work!) and discuss that with them.&nbsp; Good luck with your enquiries!&nbsp; </P><P align=left>I'm not sure which side of the adoption process you're considering - if you're looking to adopt a child, remember that adoption and fostering are two very different processes, lifestyles and outcomes, so it helps to be clear on what it is that you are seeking - a child of your own, or a child who you raise for a time while keeping them in touch with their natural family as much as it's beneficial for them.&nbsp; Sorry if that doesn't make any sense - grill me with questions if I'm not!&nbsp; People sometimes get confused, especially since it's usually the same place doing adoptions and foster care.&nbsp; Ask CYFS lots of questions if anything's confusing or doesn't make sense.&nbsp; And if you're looking to have a child adopted to someone else, you can consider open or closed adoption... CYFS can help with either.&nbsp; </P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=11698">kiwigal</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 18395<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 June 2008 at 2:23pm<br /><br /><P align=left>My husband and I looked at this and decided not to go ahead with it mainly&nbsp; because there is hundreds of other couples are trying to adopt a baby and my understanding is&nbsp;that it&nbsp;can take up to 2 years or so before you are chosen and the birth mother looks at your profile and chooses what couple she likes the best. and she is up to 12 days after birth whether or not she wants to keep the baby.</P><P align=left>Good luck </P><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by kiwigal</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18091">pip1</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 18395<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 June 2008 at 1:02pm<br /><br />also check out adoption option trust.  it is a nz site.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2610">marielb</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 18395<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 June 2008 at 11:41am<br /><br />Do you want to adopt a baby yourself, or do you want to let someone adopt your baby??? <br /><br />Do you need to contact different places depending on whether you are the adoptee or the adopter??]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17523">Jay_R</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 18395<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 June 2008 at 8:35am<br /><br />Contact Adoption Services in your area.  They are a branch of CYFS.  Number is 0508 FAMILY.]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Adopti&#111;n? : A friend of mine adopted her baby...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18078">caliandjack</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 18395<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 June 2008 at 9:38pm<br /><br />A friend of mine adopted her baby out, she did it through her GP. <br />She has a very open adoption, the couple who adopted him are involved in the christian church (not sure which one), through which they also adopted two twin girls as babies.<br />]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Adopti&#111;n? : good on you maudie23 - A guy at...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19685">ShanzD</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 18395<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 June 2008 at 9:14pm<br /><br />good on you maudie23 - A guy at work and his wife adopeted a baby and there is a long waiting list apparently.<br /><br />My mum works for cyfs and has taken in 3 kids for permancy.  I imagine cyfs are always looking for foster parents but not many foster parents get permancy unfortunately.<br /><br />Sorry, thats all I know - good luck!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19861">maudie23</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 18395<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 June 2008 at 7:28pm<br /><br />Thank you busymum, I am trying to cover all areas as no-one know what the future has install for us.  <br />Again thank you  ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2583">busymum</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 18395<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 June 2008 at 7:23pm<br /><br />All NZ adoptions are done thru Child, Youth and Family so I'd give their adoptions unit (in your area) a call in the first instance.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19861">maudie23</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 18395<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 June 2008 at 6:56pm<br /><br />Hi, I am starting to look into Adoption.  I don't know where to start or what steps I need to take.<br />If someone has gone through an experience such as Adoption, I would appreciate any advice.<br />Thanks]]>
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