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   <title><![CDATA[ADVICE PLEASE!!! my mum . . : I haven&amp;#039;t been in that situation,...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2583">busymum</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 19040<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 July 2008 at 8:37pm<br /><br />I haven't been in that situation, although my parents are hanging together in a marriage that they both hate. It's horrible to watch.<br /><br />Anyway, first up I think you need to have a chat with Sarah to try to negate some of what your mum has said to her. Obviously there are some untruths in there for starters, and it's horrible that she has been brought into the middle of them.<br /><br />Secondly, how much time does Sarah spend with her grandmother anyway? I definitely think that you (and your DH together, probably) need to bring it up with your mum and tell her that talking to Sarah about her separation is absolutely not acceptable. But I think any contact Sarah has with her from now own will have to be a short, family visit; ie you or your DH is right there to keep the tongue-lashing in check.<br /><br />I'm all for supporting kids and their grandparents even if the grandparents aren't the best role models. My grandad was always bitter and angry while I was a kid and not nice to be around, but we did still visit at times (and we liked visiting our grandma), but as I grew older my grandad started turning off the tv whenever we visited, and as I became an adult he would even talk about things from his history, e.g. his work and stuff. So even though I barely spoke with him as a youngster, I still felt I got a good relationship with him in the end.<br /><br />What I'm trying to say is that it is easy to take a knee-jerk reaction and never let Sarah see her grandma again. While I think her contact needs to be restricted to protect her from adult issues, I doubt that never seeing her again will be helpful.]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[ADVICE PLEASE!!! my mum . . : Perhaps its better coming from...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=16254">AnnC</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 19040<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 July 2008 at 6:54pm<br /><br />Perhaps its better coming from you about not seeing Sarah rather than make the relationship between your DH and your mum worse - and feul her anger that all men are evil.  I know it will be hard for you and I am sure thats why your dh is telling her and not you.<br /><br /><img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif" border="0"> 's hun though cause it can't be easy]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[ADVICE PLEASE!!! my mum . . : oh and my dad knows exactly what...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18188">Candkids</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 19040<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 July 2008 at 6:17pm<br /><br />oh and my dad knows exactly what mums like so  it doesnt affect his relationship with sarah , usually when sarah has said things in the past he usually rolls his eyes or cracks up laughing <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley8.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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   <pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 18:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[ADVICE PLEASE!!! my mum . . : shes had councelling  for years...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18188">Candkids</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 19040<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 July 2008 at 6:14pm<br /><br />shes had councelling  for years about it, the first few years everyone gave her the benefit of the doubt and thought shed "snap out of it soon" but she hasnt.<br />myself and a few others have talked to her doc and said we were concerned but  not sure what thedoc did after that.<br /><br />dh is going to see her tonight, to let her know shes not going to see her at all until she gets some help.<br /><br />thanks ladies  for all your words of wisdom <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley10.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[ADVICE PLEASE!!! my mum . . : gosh thats terible!!   i agree...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17467">BaAsKa</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 19040<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 July 2008 at 5:29pm<br /><br />gosh thats terible!!<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif" border="0">  i agree with what everyone has said - counceling and cutting her off from your kids for a while...<br /><br /><img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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   <pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[ADVICE PLEASE!!! my mum . . : First of all,  to you - even when...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19793">kiwisj</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 19040<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 July 2008 at 5:13pm<br /><br />First of all, <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif" border="0"> to you - even when you know divorce is the best thing for your parents it's still freaking hard dealing with the fallout hey <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />I tend to agree with the others here - you have told your Mum you don't want her speaking against your Dad to Sarah and she hasn't respected your wishes.  So now it's time to follow through and perhaps keep Sarah away until your Mum gets over her bitterness or Sarah is old enough to make her own decisions about what she believes.  (not that I think it's right for parents/grandparents to badmouth their ex to their kids at any age!)]]>
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   <pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[ADVICE PLEASE!!! my mum . . : We had a similar situation with...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18479">ellen</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 19040<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 July 2008 at 5:12pm<br /><br />We had a similar situation with my MIL and our kids haven't seen her in years. Bit different cause she's not my mum so I don't have the same guilt association as I would if it was my mum.<br /><br />I agree you should follow through and at the very least limit contact so that she can only see your daughter if you or your DH are around.<br /><br />Your daughter shouldn't have that sort of stuff said to her - hope it doesn't affect her relationship with her Grandad. Sounds like your mum can't see past her own nose? Good luck!]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[ADVICE PLEASE!!! my mum . . : Wow, she sounds really bitter,...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4856">my4beauties</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 19040<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 July 2008 at 4:35pm<br /><br /><P align=left>Wow, she sounds really bitter, and to be taking her bitterness out on your 5 yr old is really childish on her part!&nbsp; It obviously makes her feel to tell Sarah that crap.&nbsp; I'd definitely tell her that she can't see Sarah again til she's had counciling to help her get over her divorce.&nbsp; Is she interested in getting a man in her life?&nbsp; I'd say she needs to move on and try &amp; find some enjoyment in life again, so she's not making everyone else's life a misery.</P><P align=left>&nbsp;</P><P align=left>Poor you hun, having to deal with that!</P>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[ADVICE PLEASE!!! my mum . . : yeah I agree, until your mum respects...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=12584">EmDee</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 19040<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 July 2008 at 4:26pm<br /><br />yeah I agree, until your mum respects your wishes, you should cut her out of your kids life, its not right to use a child like that.<br /><br />eta: sounds like she could do with counselling also so that she can move on with her life and find some happiness<span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by mummydee</span>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[ADVICE PLEASE!!! my mum . . : follow through with the threat...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=682">Bizzy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 19040<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 July 2008 at 4:24pm<br /><br />follow through with the threat you made to your mum and dont allow her to see your child! simple. ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[ADVICE PLEASE!!! my mum . . : ok so . . . in 2000 my parents...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18188">Candkids</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 19040<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 July 2008 at 4:21pm<br /><br />ok so . . .<br />in 2000 my parents split after 30+yrs of marrage<br />i was 19 at the time, and cant say i was shocked as i was pretty much expecting it, and had even told my mum a few years earlier <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0"> <br />id always been closer to my dad, as my mum never wanted kids EVER but dad did so pretty much i was to keep him happy, <br /><br />now 8yrs later dads shacked up with a family friend, he doesnt live in the same town and is really happy.<br /><br />mum is living a bitter life . . .  she WONT let it go,  she used to be all for marrage etc until the split now if 1 of my friends gets married or engaged she cant even say congrats, she says "what do u want to do that 4 almot all marages end in divorse  . . .  blah blah"<br />its really embarassing, she meddles in my life non stop, and hates DH with a passion as hes told her exactly what he thinks of her.<br /><br />she will voise her opinion over and over and over to everyone and anyone at all, when i was pg i even had people at work telling me how my mum was soooo upset i was pg again!!! i didnt even know theese people!<br /><br />she tells sarah some things about her grandad which ive warned her about in the past, i have also told her if she was going to  tell her mean things about her grandad that i wouldnt let her see her anymore!<br /><br />lastnight sarah talked to grandad on the phone and the first thing she said was " nanna cries at night because you left her and now your with that horrible lady who looks funny, you made nanna so sad she cries everynight, and that horrible lady thinks its funny because its all her fault,  !<br /><br /><img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif" border="0">  both me and dh were like WTF!!!! OMG<br />no 5yr old should have there head filled with crap like that! but my mum wont listed, she just says well its true and doesnt listen to anyone at all!<br /><br />what do i do????]]>
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