OHbaby! Forums : shocking!! https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sat, 04 Apr 2026 16:11:09 +0000 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 10:56:27 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.05 360 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=20642 <![CDATA[OHbaby! Forums]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_images/web_wiz_forums.png https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/ <![CDATA[shocking!! : Ok, if Tom is unresponsive.,.....pinch...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20642&PID=483675&title=shocking#483675 Author: peanut butter
Subject: 20642
Posted: 05 September 2008 at 10:56am

Ok, if Tom is unresponsive.,.....pinch away!!!! (hell, its not like the little munchkin has never left a bruise on me from biting......and I WAS responsive)]]> Fri, 05 Sep 2008 10:56:27 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20642&PID=483675&title=shocking#483675 <![CDATA[shocking!! : Oh my gosh that&#039;s crazy!...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20642&PID=483628&title=shocking#483628 Author: DzinerGirl
Subject: 20642
Posted: 05 September 2008 at 10:15am

Oh my gosh that's crazy! Honestly I think I would be more inclined to sue if someone had let my baby/child/sibling etc die because they were too busy f**king around with all this PC crap...It's insane!

Edit - Sorry this PC stuff really gets my back up! Don't want to offend anyone it's just my opinion

Edited by DzinerGirl]]> Fri, 05 Sep 2008 10:15:11 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20642&PID=483628&title=shocking#483628 <![CDATA[shocking!! : How&#039;s this then? My DH is...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20642&PID=482895&title=shocking#482895 Author: emz
Subject: 20642
Posted: 04 September 2008 at 12:39pm

How's this then?

My DH is trained to be a field medic in the army, can insert IV's etc etc. The way they are taught CPR can break someone's ribs (as CPR can do) yet they can be taken to court for breaking a person's ribs so are advised not to give CPR in the real world

Why would someone take you to court for breaking your ribs when you did CPR to save their life? Not that its likely to happen as CPR has such a low success rate but sheesh.

PC gone mad!]]> Thu, 04 Sep 2008 12:39:27 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20642&PID=482895&title=shocking#482895 <![CDATA[shocking!! : We teach parents cpr before they...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20642&PID=482832&title=shocking#482832 Author: mum2paris
Subject: 20642
Posted: 04 September 2008 at 10:58am

We teach parents cpr before they leave the neonatal unit and we always teach to call babys name first and gently touch or move their limbs, if not try picking them up and running your finger along the bottom of their foot (babys don't tend to like this much!!) if you're gonna get a response you'll usually get something from the foot thing.

That said we also teach that if baby is choking and you have had to give it some really good back blows or whatever, even if it seems ok after getting whetever it is out - it's still good to go to the docs #1, to check there's no damage to the airway, and #2 because if you've had to really do decent back-blows it's likely to come up with bruises of which you'll want to have had a medical incident documented in case someone thinks it's abuse.

Crazy times aye.

Edited by mum2paris]]> Thu, 04 Sep 2008 10:58:38 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20642&PID=482832&title=shocking#482832 <![CDATA[shocking!! : My best friend has a severe allergic...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20642&PID=482740&title=shocking#482740 Author: MummyFreckle
Subject: 20642
Posted: 04 September 2008 at 8:53am

My best friend has a severe allergic reaction and carries an epipen. She has had a really hard time finding people in the office where she works that would be willing to give it to her if she needed it. One time she had a reaction and the 3 people that she had trained to give it to her, all stood around debating about who was going to do it, in that situation someone random in the office just stepped in and gave it to her. Pretty hard when you are depending on people to effectively save your life and they are too nervous to do the simple thing that they have been trained to do!!

(Funny side story - we were once in a really flash restaurant in London and she had a reaction, and one of the symptoms that something is wrong is that she gets really hot and starts to go bright red....and starts pulling on her clothes....well she collasped but slumped under the table....so her husband and I were on our hands and knees under a table in the middle of the busy restaurant hiking up her dress to stab her in the thigh.....it looked hilarious at the time!!)

 

]]> Thu, 04 Sep 2008 08:53:40 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20642&PID=482740&title=shocking#482740 <![CDATA[shocking!! : I have to do first aid as part...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20642&PID=482712&title=shocking#482712 Author: cuppatea
Subject: 20642
Posted: 04 September 2008 at 8:25am

I have to do first aid as part of my electrical registration and "technically" if someone is being electricuted you have to ring the electricity board to have the power cut off Unofficially you disconnect them from the supply by wacking them with something big and preferable wooden.]]> Thu, 04 Sep 2008 08:25:55 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20642&PID=482712&title=shocking#482712 <![CDATA[shocking!! : really ? we havent had that *thinks...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20642&PID=482637&title=shocking#482637 Author: caitlynsmygirl
Subject: 20642
Posted: 03 September 2008 at 10:48pm

really ? we havent had that *thinks for a bit* nope we havent
but.....my boss has a friend that was a dentist and had a patient (23 years old) go under GA ...and he never woke up ....

Im so bored of teeth Cat, im bored of the industry , been doing it too long , so repetitive now *sigh* ]]> Wed, 03 Sep 2008 22:48:28 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20642&PID=482637&title=shocking#482637 <![CDATA[shocking!! : lol we have heaps of fainters!...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20642&PID=482630&title=shocking#482630 Author: Candkids
Subject: 20642
Posted: 03 September 2008 at 10:26pm

lol
we have heaps of fainters! usually parents watching lol

we did have a real bad anasthetic reaction about a month back, was freaky and my boss panicked so bad i thought the ambulance would have to take him too! lol]]> Wed, 03 Sep 2008 22:26:50 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20642&PID=482630&title=shocking#482630 <![CDATA[shocking!! : meh , sometimes at work i half...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20642&PID=482627&title=shocking#482627 Author: caitlynsmygirl
Subject: 20642
Posted: 03 September 2008 at 10:18pm

meh , sometimes at work i half wish someone would suffer some kind of reaction to anesthetic or something, just for some damn excitement ...had one patient faint after she got her wisdom teeth out ...but she woke up again, bugger it !


]]> Wed, 03 Sep 2008 22:18:02 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20642&PID=482627&title=shocking#482627 <![CDATA[shocking!! : Peanut wrote: Things really...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20642&PID=482575&title=shocking#482575 Author: Candkids
Subject: 20642
Posted: 03 September 2008 at 9:18pm

Originally posted by Peanut Peanut wrote:


Things really have gone mad though when someone will take someone else to court for trying to save their or their childs life....


and its things like that, that will end up having people die unnessessaraly due to people being to worried about geting sued etc]]> Wed, 03 Sep 2008 21:18:30 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20642&PID=482575&title=shocking#482575 <![CDATA[shocking!! : Peanut wrote:Things really...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20642&PID=482573&title=shocking#482573 Author: nikkitheknitter
Subject: 20642
Posted: 03 September 2008 at 9:17pm

Originally posted by Peanut Peanut wrote:

Things really have gone mad though when someone will take someone else to court for trying to save their or their childs life....


I agree.

Though it isn't always that simple unfortunately.]]> Wed, 03 Sep 2008 21:17:07 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20642&PID=482573&title=shocking#482573 <![CDATA[shocking!! : My spelling was shocking - I think...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20642&PID=482568&title=shocking#482568 Author: Peanut
Subject: 20642
Posted: 03 September 2008 at 9:13pm

My spelling was shocking - I think it is due to the medical/non medical thing rather than a provider.

I did the comp first aide course before starting nursing and was told the rock/shake to get a response but when doing a refreasher course after completeing my nursing training they did the pinch test.

Things really have gone mad though when someone will take someone else to court for trying to save their or their childs life.... ]]> Wed, 03 Sep 2008 21:13:49 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20642&PID=482568&title=shocking#482568 <![CDATA[shocking!! : we have to cover all the totally...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20642&PID=482553&title=shocking#482553 Author: Candkids
Subject: 20642
Posted: 03 September 2008 at 9:05pm

we have to cover all the totally freaky stuff like incubation with the little torch and tubes down the throat like on shorty st. and the shock pads etc . .

could be due to different service providers
our courses are thru SMS medical or amcare

(edited as i forgot the last bit)

Edited by CatzKids]]> Wed, 03 Sep 2008 21:05:13 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20642&PID=482553&title=shocking#482553 <![CDATA[shocking!! : i thought it was so stupid! all...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20642&PID=482546&title=shocking#482546 Author: Candkids
Subject: 20642
Posted: 03 September 2008 at 9:00pm

i thought it was so stupid! all i could think of was if it was my kid i would get so mad if someone was checking the timewaithing for a witness to document it rather than trying to help my kid.

we have those epi pens at work too, we can only use them with a witness present im dreading ever having to use one tho.]]> Wed, 03 Sep 2008 21:00:56 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20642&PID=482546&title=shocking#482546 <![CDATA[shocking!! : Peanut... yeah, I assumed that....]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20642&PID=482544&title=shocking#482544 Author: nikkitheknitter
Subject: 20642
Posted: 03 September 2008 at 9:00pm

Peanut... yeah, I assumed that. Just wanted clarification.

I was wondering if the difference in checking infant response is due to the provider (or trainer?) as I don't imagine it is a medical/non-medical thing.

Mine was a red cross course.]]> Wed, 03 Sep 2008 21:00:36 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20642&PID=482544&title=shocking#482544 <![CDATA[shocking!! : Medical level 6 is above the comprehensive...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20642&PID=482538&title=shocking#482538 Author: Peanut
Subject: 20642
Posted: 03 September 2008 at 8:57pm

Medical level 6 is above the comprehensive first aid course. the comp first aid course is basically a work place one but the medical one is lsightly mroe advanced and based on the fact the most people attending have a medical background or work within the medical area.


Correct me if I am wrong - catzkids?]]> Wed, 03 Sep 2008 20:57:05 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20642&PID=482538&title=shocking#482538 <![CDATA[shocking!! : eeek what if there is no one else...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20642&PID=482537&title=shocking#482537 Author: busymum
Subject: 20642
Posted: 03 September 2008 at 8:56pm

eeek what if there is no one else nearby? Pinch the kid! Pinch it!!! Better alive than waiting for another adult!!!! *panics*]]> Wed, 03 Sep 2008 20:56:58 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20642&PID=482537&title=shocking#482537 <![CDATA[shocking!! : we have to do the medical/ healthcare...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20642&PID=482536&title=shocking#482536 Author: Candkids
Subject: 20642
Posted: 03 September 2008 at 8:56pm

we have to do the medical/ healthcare sector course as we deal with GA stuff]]> Wed, 03 Sep 2008 20:56:28 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20642&PID=482536&title=shocking#482536 <![CDATA[shocking!! : And there are lots of ridiculous...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20642&PID=482534&title=shocking#482534 Author: nikkitheknitter
Subject: 20642
Posted: 03 September 2008 at 8:55pm

And there are lots of ridiculous things about the first aid stuff which are potentially life threatening.

As in, if I was with someone who had a severe allergic reaction and required an injection from an Epi pen but were unable to give it to themselves for whatever reason, I am legally unable to give that injection unless I have prior written consent from the person. Verbal consent is potentially acceptable if there is a third party to witness it.

Edited to fix is/are

Edited by nikkiwhyte]]> Wed, 03 Sep 2008 20:55:01 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20642&PID=482534&title=shocking#482534 <![CDATA[shocking!! : Sorry what do you mean by medical...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20642&PID=482531&title=shocking#482531 Author: nikkitheknitter
Subject: 20642
Posted: 03 September 2008 at 8:52pm

Sorry what do you mean by medical level 6?

I just completed a comprehensive first aid course and for an infant was advised to pick up the child and rock gently to check for response.]]> Wed, 03 Sep 2008 20:52:50 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20642&PID=482531&title=shocking#482531 <![CDATA[shocking!! : today i had my work 1st aid course...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20642&PID=482527&title=shocking#482527 Author: Candkids
Subject: 20642
Posted: 03 September 2008 at 8:50pm

today i had my work 1st aid course which is the medical level 6 one.
anyway . .
as with any 1 of the questions was . .

Q) if you are presented with a small child of infant that appears un-responsive what do you do to check that they are responsive or not

A) you pinch there inner arm. leg , side
(most people know it and it says so in the book)

CORRECT YES BUT . . . . .
(this is the bit that shocked the entire room)
before you pinch the child to check that they are un-responsive, you may want to check the time, and then make sure you get someone else in the room (other than the childs parent) to witness and doccument exactly when and where you pinch the child and for how long! as you may be open to a child abuse case!!
WTF!

i was so shocked at this! i thought it was absolutly rediculas! and surely even the thought of that will put some people off even checking the responce!
this has come about since somewhere in the south island a GP pinched a baby to check the responce ( there was none and the baby later died) but her nail left a tiny mark on the childs side and the parents took her to court!

PC gone way to far i think,

]]> Wed, 03 Sep 2008 20:50:35 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20642&PID=482527&title=shocking#482527