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   <title><![CDATA[Electi&#111;n Time... :   caitlynsmygirl wrote:  susieq...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17430">mummy_becks</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 November 2008 at 6:27pm<br /><br /><P align=left><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by caitlynsmygirl" alt="Originally posted by caitlynsmygirl" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>caitlynsmygirl wrote:</strong><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by susieq" alt="Originally posted by susieq" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>susieq wrote:</strong><br /><br />and lets all have a good day and see what comes out of this government. <BR>why would ex New Zealanders living in Australia also vote for National as did Caitlyns dad and his wife and they were actually hoping National would get in without needing ACT or United Future I wonder?? <BR>They obvviously didnt like New Zealand under Labour either</td></tr></table> <BR><BR>grumble grumble and slightly off topic (ok very off topic) are they planning on coming back at some stage so he can see his daughter are they ? <BR><strong>Who cares who they vote for ?</strong></td></tr></table> </P><P align=left>So totally right Kelly who really cares who someone not on this forum voted for.</P><P align=left>And they could of voted so long as they were still NZ citizens.</P>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Electi&#111;n Time... : Yes Angela said they would come...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10366">susieq</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 November 2008 at 2:57pm<br /><br />Yes Angela said they would come back if the country came right]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Electi&#111;n Time... : His eyebrows look like they are...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10235">caitlynsmygirl</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 November 2008 at 11:09pm<br /><br />His eyebrows look like they are going to hop ...literally, hop, not walk ,off his face , and come and shake my hand.<br /><br />i dont shake hands with eyebrows .<br />...On principle .<br /><br /><br />PS, thanks Neeks <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> <span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by caitlynsmygirl</span>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Electi&#111;n Time... :   caitlynsmygirl wrote:and Guy...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17430">mummy_becks</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 November 2008 at 10:04pm<br /><br /><P align=left><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by caitlynsmygirl" alt="Originally posted by caitlynsmygirl" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>caitlynsmygirl wrote:</strong><br /><br />and Guy Sebastian ! <IMG src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif" border="0"></td></tr></table> </P><P align=left>He is more scarier than the spiders and snakes.</P>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 22:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Electi&#111;n Time... : LOL@ Guy Sebastian  THE Kelly,...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19029">Neeks</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 November 2008 at 9:53pm<br /><br />LOL@ Guy Sebastian<br /><br />THE Kelly, you are a real hoot ya know that???]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Electi&#111;n Time... : lol at Guy Sebastian ]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17802">Bobbie</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 November 2008 at 9:47pm<br /><br />lol at Guy Sebastian <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Electi&#111;n Time... :   Bobbie wrote:I hope everyone...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10235">caitlynsmygirl</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 November 2008 at 9:25pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Bobbie" alt="Originally posted by Bobbie" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Bobbie wrote:</strong><br /><br />I hope everyone doesn't move to Aussie - maybe move into politics instead <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"></td></tr></table><br /><br />I wont be (moving to Aussie) It scares me ,,,,,all the spiders, and snakes! and crocodiles! and Guy Sebastian ! <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Electi&#111;n Time... :   susieq wrote:and lets all have...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10235">caitlynsmygirl</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 November 2008 at 9:21pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by susieq" alt="Originally posted by susieq" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>susieq wrote:</strong><br /><br />and lets all have a good day and see what comes out of  this government.<br />why would ex New Zealanders living in Australia also vote for National as did Caitlyns dad and his wife and they were actually hoping National would get in without needing ACT or United Future I wonder??<br />They obvviously didnt like New Zealand under Labour either</td></tr></table><br /><br />grumble grumble and slightly off topic (ok very off topic) are they planning on coming back at some stage so he can see his daughter are they ? <br />Who cares who they vote for ? ]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Electi&#111;n Time... : I just have no interest in Aussie....]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2583">busymum</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 November 2008 at 9:15pm<br /><br />I just have no interest in Aussie. I only know 1 person over there, all the rest of my friends and family live in the N.I. of N.Z. The money side of things is not a big enough motivator on it's own.]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Electi&#111;n Time... : DH would have to retrain for 1...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18078">caliandjack</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 November 2008 at 8:13pm<br /><br />DH would have to retrain for 1 year to do the same job he does here, in Oz.  Also he likes tramping and the bush, which Aussie doesn't have the same as us. <br />The 60 minutes program was interesting. It was about Aussies coming here.]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Electi&#111;n Time... : I think we would be worse off-...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=564">lizzle</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 November 2008 at 7:24pm<br /><br />I think we would be worse off- daycare is incredibly expensive.  my SIL pays over $250 a week for her son in part-time care.  Housing is a lot more.  of course this is sydney, but teaching wages aren't significantly better.<br /><br />and thats just financially.  socially, I just don't think australia is as good for our family.  For a start, my family is here and we just COULDN"T do without them!]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Electi&#111;n Time... : That is you who would be worse...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17430">mummy_becks</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 November 2008 at 6:36pm<br /><br /><P align=left>That is you who would be worse of over there. I know for sure we are better off there as I am from Oz. But we are not going as we both have stable jobs here in NZ that we should lose in the recession.</P>]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Electi&#111;n Time... : We would actually be worse off...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10366">susieq</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 November 2008 at 6:23pm<br /><br />We would actually be worse off in Oz because we couldnt get any money for our special needs daughter  we would have to wait two years living there before she actually was able to get any sort of benefit]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Electi&#111;n Time... : I agree - we all owe it to ourselves...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17802">Bobbie</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 November 2008 at 6:09pm<br /><br />I agree - we all owe it to ourselves to be as informed as possible and part of that is looking at all viewpoints which often comes from discussion.]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Electi&#111;n Time... : There is a thing on 60 minutes...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17430">mummy_becks</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 November 2008 at 5:39pm<br /><br /><P align=left>There is a thing on 60 minutes tonight about moving to Oz - will be interesting.</P><P align=left>You should never stop talking about politics it is one thing that is always in the media - it just isn't a once every 3 year thing.</P>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Electi&#111;n Time... : I hope everyone doesn&amp;#039;t move...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17802">Bobbie</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 November 2008 at 3:21pm<br /><br />I hope everyone doesn't move to Aussie - maybe move into politics instead <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[Electi&#111;n Time... :   Jezsika wrote:  summerlamb...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10154">fattartsrock</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 November 2008 at 2:54pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Jezsika" alt="Originally posted by Jezsika" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Jezsika wrote:</strong><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by summerlamb" alt="Originally posted by summerlamb" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>summerlamb wrote:</strong><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Jezsika" alt="Originally posted by Jezsika" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Jezsika wrote:</strong><br /><br />And yes she didnt really campaign coz she didnt need to, i dont think..</td></tr></table><br /><br />Clearly she did <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"></td></tr></table><br /><br />I actually wonder if she was voted out because of who she was and not what she did.<br /><br />Some people feel the need for change without thinking about the consequences.</td></tr></table><br /><br />True, true.  Hubbyand I have had some big fights over politics recently, but yestrday we had a semi calm discussion and he said its not labour he hates, it's her.  He said that he probably would have voted labour if she wasn't the leader, and i'm thinking WTF?<br /><br />I think she is a tremendous woman who, aside from other things, has had to cope with a lot of horrible nasty jibes about her looks and "sexuality" on top of the usual.  She stands firm on what she beleives in and has done whatever she has done for the greater good, for the future, instead of short term fixes and bribes that will ulitmately cost the country in other ways.<br /><br />]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17523">Jay_R</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 November 2008 at 2:36pm<br /><br />Awww, darn it I just have to say something else <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />And that is......  One teeny tiny thing that I can feel a bit more reassured about with John Key now being Prime Minister is that America now has the most 'Left' President in its history.  More so than the Kennedys which is saying something.  At least now he will be brown-nosing a sensible man.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br /><br />Funny how the rest of the world is moving left, and good old New Zealand moves right.]]>
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   <pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 14:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=20248">clover</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 November 2008 at 2:30pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Jezsika" alt="Originally posted by Jezsika" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Jezsika wrote:</strong><br /><br />Some people feel the need for change without thinking about the consequences.</td></tr></table><br /><br />That could quite possibly be true.  You've got to remember though that Labour didn't exactly win by a landslide last election so it isn't as if a huge number of people voted for Labour just because they wanted a change.  Some people have benefitted from Labour and some people haven't - I fit firmly in the haven't category and my life situation and ideals fit with National.  Perhaps more people are beginning to fit in that category than previously?]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17966">MelanieAndBree</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 November 2008 at 2:27pm<br /><br /><P>Ha ha looks like Americans have got a wee bit smarter and the kiwis a whole lot dumber.</P><P>Damn! Glad im moving to Oz soonish. Sheesh.</P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10366">susieq</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 November 2008 at 1:49pm<br /><br />we should all forget about politics for the next three years at least,<br />I am sure John Key has the same passion for New Zealand as Helen Clark has and I too am glad to see the last of Helen but she has done a good job, <br />we should forget about politics until the next time and as I said I think John Key will be just as good as Helen was]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10366">susieq</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 November 2008 at 1:49pm<br /><br />we should all forget about politics for the next three years at least,<br />I am sure John Key has the same passion for New Zealand as Helen Clark has and I too am glad to see the last of Helen but she has done a good job, <br />we should forget about politics until the next time and as I said I think John Key will be just as good as Helen was]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17523">Jay_R</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 November 2008 at 11:58am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by summerlamb" alt="Originally posted by summerlamb" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>summerlamb wrote:</strong><br /><br />I may not agree with everything she has done but I believe there are few people out there who love this country as much as she does.</td></tr></table><br /><br />Thats a really really great thing to say <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />I'm a big Helen supporter.  Labour too of course, but the passion she feels for this country is inspirational, and she really was a fantastic leader, right to the end.<br /><br />I'm gutted that she's going.  And really unhappy that National got in.<br /><br />And for someone who usually has so much to say about politics in this country, surprisingly I now have nothing more to add.<br /><br />Except <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=20248">clover</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 November 2008 at 11:49am<br /><br />I'm a national supporter but Bobbie I agree with you that I am sad to see Helen step down.  I may not agree with everything she has done but I believe there are few people out there who love this country as much as she does.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17802">Bobbie</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 November 2008 at 11:36am<br /><br />My mother is a teacher and her misgivings about the testing are the same as yours Lizzle. Overseas where there are heaps of standardised tests the teachers have to spend all their time testing to the test curriculum and have no time to explore other topics. Also with the promise to cut bureaucracy it will mean the already overworked teachers will be doing more.<br /><br />I don't agree with National's policies myself but I am glad that we live in a country where everyone can be heard. All I ask is that people are informed when they vote - and I believe most people are.<br /><br />I do think there are issues with the current MMP structure - ACT got less votes than NZF but because they won electorates they are represented in parliament. That doesn't mean I'm not stoked to see the back of Winston though.<br /><br />I am sad to see Helen step down - regardless of her political affiliations I think she is an amazing woman and I am glad that my daughter has role models such as her in this country.  <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=20248">clover</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 November 2008 at 8:56am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Jezsika" alt="Originally posted by Jezsika" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Jezsika wrote:</strong><br /><br />And yes she didnt really campaign coz she didnt need to, i dont think..</td></tr></table><br /><br />Clearly she did <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18010">Glow</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 November 2008 at 8:46am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Jennz" alt="Originally posted by Jennz" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Jennz wrote:</strong><br /><br />I'll be happy to dwell for you Liz <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0"> <br /><br /><br /><br />Also, I find it interesting how National says the are going to 'cut crime rates' and 'shorten waiting lists'- How?  Putting more police out there is all fine and dandy but if you are taking from the poor to give to the rich then crime rates are going to sky rocket so your going to NEED more police out there to combat that! <br /><br /></td></tr></table><br /><br />Exactly, my biggest fear will be the rising crime rates! Especially in my low socio- economic district.<br /><br />Oz looks more & more appealing everyday<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18232">Shezamumof3</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 November 2008 at 8:34am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by susieq" alt="Originally posted by susieq" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>susieq wrote:</strong><br /><br />I also didnt like the Labour party doing dirty bagging John Key</td></tr></table><br /><br />I didnt like that either, those ad's were Helen Clarke stooping very low.<br />If I had of voted, it wouldnt have been for Labour.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10366">susieq</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 November 2008 at 7:36am<br /><br />and lets all have a good day and see what comes out of  this government.<br />why would ex New Zealanders living in Australia also vote for National as did Caitlyns dad and his wife and they were actually hoping National would get in without needing ACT or United Future I wonder??<br />They obvviously didnt like New Zealand under Labour either]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10366">susieq</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 November 2008 at 7:31am<br /><br />I also didnt like the Labour party doing dirty bagging John Key]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10366">susieq</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 November 2008 at 7:29am<br /><br />I am still pleased John Key got in and I think we should all just let him get on with his job, alot of commentators are saying he will be a good Prime Minister .<br />Act will keep him honest which is why I gave my party vote to Act and he has said he doesnt want Roger Douglas in a cabinet position<br />I think John Key will be better than Bill English as Prime Minister or the last leader they had the guy from the Reserve Bank,<br />]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4613">Jennz</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 November 2008 at 3:35am<br /><br />I'll be happy to dwell for you Liz <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />I think what a lot of people also get stuck on is voting for a Prime Minister, not realising that actually they are just a face of the party.  The National party that has just been voted in is the same National party we rejected the last 3 elections, just with a different face on the front. Theres still the same characters running it, Lockwood Smith, Bill English (the business round table!) etc. Its not like America where that person actually has significant power over and above their party- John Key only has one vote when it comes down to it, we are being run by the National party, not John Key.<br /><br />Also, I find it interesting how National says the are going to 'cut crime rates' and 'shorten waiting lists'- How?  Putting more police out there is all fine and dandy but if you are taking from the poor to give to the rich then crime rates are going to sky rocket so your going to NEED more police out there to combat that!  Shortening waiting lists by bringing the private sector into public health care means we are heading down the same road as the states- anyone seen Sicko?<br /><br />Thankfully, personally we are in a position where we can afford private schooling and health insurance when we come back- but since hubby earns almost 3x as much as the national average wage, I hate to see how the rest of the country is going to suffer.  Theres no satisfaction thriving if your doing it off the backs of the poor <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley6.gif" border="0"> <span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by Jennz</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=564">lizzle</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 9:57pm<br /><br />Ohwell, national won and we DO need to get over it.  can't be arsed spending the next three years bitching and moaning about it...now bitching and moaning when changes i don't like actually happen - there's another story!  <br /><br />am very interested in whether National's education "testing" actually results in more money to actually target the problems we are supposed to find.<br />"Yes, Mrs Brown, Johnny is being his peers in reading....sorry we can't do anything about it, spent all the money on the test, but hey. just thought you'd like to know"<br /><br /><br />ahhh, bitterness is sooo ugly.  am now out of this.  no use dwelling on it.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17430">mummy_becks</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 8:00pm<br /><br /><P align=left><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by lady_aset" alt="Originally posted by lady_aset" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>lady_aset wrote:</strong><br /><br />The army doesn't do their ACC claims (at the moment) through private insurance. Instead, due to the size of the organisation, take care of work accident claims in return for severly reduced ACC levies. However, the army are bound to follow current ACC legislation. At the moment, my husband receives weekly compensation for his injury, and still needs a lot of rehabilitation. We are now in the lurch of what will happen over the next 3 to 6 months.</td></tr></table> </P><P align=left>They do know as all the letter we have received from ACC they state "we will forward onto your employees insurance company". It could just be Waiouru thou and not the whole Army (as we are a different bunch up here <IMG src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0">).</P><P align=left>Haha Kelly we must of posted at the same time.</P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2474">Sarah Beth</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 7:47pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by lady_aset" alt="Originally posted by lady_aset" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>lady_aset wrote:</strong><br /><br />The problem with privatisation is that insurance companies are in it to make a profit, whereas the current system is not profit-driven. Insurance companies are notorious for looking for a way out of paying for a claim.</td></tr></table><br /><br />I object to this comment - I kknow this is off topic, but I work for an insurance company, claims are only declined when not covered by your insurance policy wording, or if you have not discolsed all the facts.  We never (and no other company I have worked for), receive a claim and look for a way to get out of it on a technicality]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2474">Sarah Beth</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 7:44pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by WRXandJosh" alt="Originally posted by WRXandJosh" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>WRXandJosh wrote:</strong><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Sarah Beth" alt="Originally posted by Sarah Beth" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Sarah Beth wrote:</strong><br /><br />OK, hardly post anymore but just wanted to comment on the ACC privitasation thing - (correct me if I am wrong...), this is in regards to workers comp insurance, so if you did crash your car, fall down the stairs at home etc, you are covered by ACC, if you injure yourself at work, you are covered by your employers insurance.<br /></td></tr></table><br /><br />Isnt that how it works now as employers pay ACC levies as it is.  Im probably wrong but thats how i understood it and if it was privatized then to be covered for accidents out of work you would need to pay for your own insurance just like you do with car home and contents etc??</td></tr></table><br /><br />Currently your employer pays an ACC levy to the govt (more if they have had work place accidents, less if they opt  to take accident saving measures), regardless of where accident happens currenlty it is the govt that pay for the cost, priviateisation will mean wthe work place levy goes to a private insurer (NZI/Vero/QBE and the like), they then pay out via their claims dept when there is a work place accident.<br /><br />To the best of my knowledge they wont be priviatising the non work related section]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19473">Mum2L</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 7:42pm<br /><br />National want to privatise the whole ACC system, which means most people will have to have some form of health insurance to cover accidents.<br /><br />The problem with privatisation is that insurance companies are in it to make a profit, whereas the current system is not profit-driven. Insurance companies are notorious for looking for a way out of paying for a claim.<br /><br />Privatising ACC is a lead into privatising the whole health system. National have made it very clear that they want to contract out certain health services. They also want to change the way the maternity health services are delivered. They also want to make health care services exposed to market forces, which means no caps on GP fees, but could also have a major impact on prescription medicines.<br /><br />The army doesn't do their ACC claims (at the moment) through private insurance. Instead, due to the size of the organisation, take care of work accident claims in return for severly reduced ACC levies. However, the army are bound to follow current ACC legislation. At the moment, my husband receives weekly compensation for his injury, and still needs a lot of rehabilitation. We are now in the lurch of what will happen over the next 3 to 6 months.<br /><br />susieq - National isn't going to cut waiting lists, if they want to contract out health services to the private market. Especially when they talk about looking at ways of cutting spending in the public sector.<br />]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17701">JD</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 7:31pm<br /><br />yay, Im so please national won.  I think John Key is great and will make some very positive changes for NZ!<br />I cant stand Helen .....I recently read a very disturbing book about her <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0"> <br />I do however think she represented the country overseas well.  I mean this in the way that she didn't do or say anything goofy on the international stage.  I don't like the way her campaign ran with personal attacks on JK.  I think she should have been attacking Nationals policies rather than an individual.  It made them (Labour) look really bad.<br />I got sick on Labour promising to please everybody and ending up being too PC and pleasing noone...except maybe some beneficiaries.<br /><br />I do find it very facinating that on this forum there are so many different and strong opinions on the different parties.....and all of us are facing very similar situations....health care, education, family assistance etc.<br /><br />We are blessed to live in a country where we are so freely able to express our opinions and have the oppurtunity to have our say with the elections without people loosing their lives for the cause.<br /><br />Of course....this is all just my opinion <br /><img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17430">mummy_becks</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 7:20pm<br /><br /><P align=left>I know where DH and I work (most of you probably know) we have a private ACC insurance for work accidents, but if it is at home then we have to rely on ACC and I thought that they were looking at privatising that too.</P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19848">jaycee</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 7:16pm<br /><br />Cullen has gone (yay - so patronizing) and Turia has said she will probably only do this 3 year term and then go.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17989">WRXnKids</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 7:15pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Sarah Beth" alt="Originally posted by Sarah Beth" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Sarah Beth wrote:</strong><br /><br />OK, hardly post anymore but just wanted to comment on the ACC privitasation thing - (correct me if I am wrong...), this is in regards to workers comp insurance, so if you did crash your car, fall down the stairs at home etc, you are covered by ACC, if you injure yourself at work, you are covered by your employers insurance.<br /></td></tr></table><br /><br />Isnt that how it works now as employers pay ACC levies as it is.  Im probably wrong but thats how i understood it and if it was privatized then to be covered for accidents out of work you would need to pay for your own insurance just like you do with car home and contents etc??<span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by WRXandJosh</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2474">Sarah Beth</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 7:12pm<br /><br />OK, hardly post anymore but just wanted to comment on the ACC privitasation thing - (correct me if I am wrong...), this is in regards to workers comp insurance, so if you did crash your car, fall down the stairs at home etc, you are covered by ACC, if you injure yourself at work, you are covered by your employers insurance.<br /><br />This is the first election I have been passionate about, I have my views and they have been the same for a long time.  I will always support the govt I voted for as their policies are ones I believe in and agree with.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17430">mummy_becks</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 7:08pm<br /><br /><P align=left>Kelly I just want to say I never felt like I was making you justify your vote (you are of age to vote and have every right to vote for whoever you like), as it is your choice. I remember when I first voted in 1999 ir was a total secret as to who I was voting for.</P><P align=left>It will be an interesting 3 years. And I was told that Micheal Cullen and Tariana Turia have resigned, if that true???</P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10235">caitlynsmygirl</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 7:04pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by arohanui" alt="Originally posted by arohanui" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>arohanui wrote:</strong><br /><br />Awwwwww The Kelly <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif" border="0"></td></tr></table><br /><br />haha thanks Liz.....think the over hormonal pregnancy emotions were coming out this morning.<br />Becks I am sorry if I jumped off the handle and getting oversensitive .<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17989">WRXnKids</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 6:59pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by arohanui" alt="Originally posted by arohanui" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>arohanui wrote:</strong><br /><br />Oh and I know I only commented once but I  wasn't pushing my views on anyone <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> Just sharing my opinion and getting my frustrations off my chest - think that's been the way for most of the people in this thread?<br /></td></tr></table><br /><br />Exactly just a way to put your own thoughts out into the word and out of your own head in a take it or leave it kind of way.<br /><br />I also dont expect anyone to agree or understand why i voted the way i did just though id voice my view of the whole circus that is the elections]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17925">arohanui</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 6:55pm<br /><br />Awwwwww The Kelly <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif" border="0">]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10235">caitlynsmygirl</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 6:35pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Bizzy" alt="Originally posted by Bizzy" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Bizzy wrote:</strong><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by caitlynsmygirl" alt="Originally posted by caitlynsmygirl" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>caitlynsmygirl wrote:</strong><br /><br /><br />You know what? if i have to come on to a forum that I once enjoyed and feel like I have to justify my own personal choice, Id rather not be here, so, see you all later .</td></tr></table><br /><br />i dont think anyone has asked you to justify your choice... it would be a shame to leave just cause  you dont like the way one thread is going...<br /><br />actually i find it rather amusing you are getting so upset, seeing as you normally dont indulge in arguments and instead like to post tension breaking comments...along with yumi - wonder where she is?<br /><br />Good on you kelly for voting how you want and not being ashamed to say... <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> <br /><br /></td></tr></table><br /><br />hmmm, yeah , perhaps noone was asking me to justify my reasons for voting, but quite frankly that was how it was starting to feel , as though it wouldnt be long before it did happen .<br />My reasons for voting national probably don't make sense to others, or wouldn't be very important , I just didnt want to feel all flustered trying to explain myself if it did come to that, nor did I want to carry on an argument (or start one ) by staying in this thread, and in the morning , yeah , leaving was looking desireable , I come on here for baby talk mostly , and some other general stuff, and the politics discussion WAS starting to feel a bit heated. <br /><br />I may very well live to regret voting National , (well , for  three years anyway) and if thats the case I will definetly be voting differently next election . <br /><br />]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17925">arohanui</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 6:26pm<br /><br />Ditto about the labour ads.  Made me not want to vote for them actually!  All they could do would put down the opposition... awesome <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />I remember Bill & Ben the Flowerpot Men!!  From England though when I was older.<br /><br />Oh and I know I only commented once but I  wasn't pushing my views on anyone <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> Just sharing my opinion and getting my frustrations off my chest - think that's been the way for most of the people in this thread?<br /><br />I won't be moving to Aussie though lol!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=564">lizzle</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 6:19pm<br /><br />i must admit to HATING the Labour ads though.  "Things are going to get real bad" (cue widen eyes)<br /><br />Grrrrrr.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10366">susieq</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 6:07pm<br /><br />and I would add that at our recent Auckland Karitane Reunion at Labour weekend the Karitanes who were working for that stage with Plunket actually blame the Labour Government for them not being allowed to do things with babies that they see in things that we were trained for,<br />Our training in the hospitals was way more comprehensive than the training the Community Karitanes have been doing under a Labour led government]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10366">susieq</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 5:33pm<br /><br />I am still pleased about National getting in the reason I like Nationals health policy is because I like the idea of the waiting lists for hospitals getting cut, i really like the zero crime policy oiF national and I actually voted stratgecally for my candidate i voted national and I party voted act.<br />Even my special needs daughter Kellys sister wanted to vote for the blue man(John Key) I personally think we should give them a chance and as i said in an eariler post Caitlyn's dad and his wife live in Australia and they even voted National,<br />I  am very glad also that Winston didnt get back into parliament]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=682">Bizzy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 4:37pm<br /><br /><img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley9.gif" border="0"> hope i havent just showed my age there!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17989">WRXnKids</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 4:16pm<br /><br />Bizzy - Bill and ben the flower pot men!!!!!!!!!!!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=20132">Troods</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 4:11pm<br /><br />lol Bizzy was that Bill and Ben the Flowerpot Men??<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17989">WRXnKids</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 4:11pm<br /><br />There were dementia patience made to vote that when asked by their family (who are the ones complaining about it) didnt even remember that they had voted - to me that is COMPLETELY wrong.  I am not singling out all i am talking about the those that are gone.  My nana has Alzheimers and if she had been having one of her bad days i would hope the home would have had the sense to stop her rather than her make an uninformed decision.<br /><br />Its my opinion and im entitled to it.  I made an informed decision and voted 'those complete idiots' because in MY opinion (which i am entitled to) all the other parties are the idiots.  Slander away i only have to care about how i see it.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=682">Bizzy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 4:10pm<br /><br />buzzybee there was an article this morning/yesterday about dementia patients and questioning their ability to vote because of their memory - or lack of - and therefore the ability to recognise what exactly they were voting for.  so the comments by WRXandjosh were relevant and not random. <br /><br />when i was a little girl there was a tv show called bill and ben... i cant believe they got that many votes either!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17772">minik8e</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 3:56pm<br /><br />I think it kind of says what people are thinking by voting for Bill and Ben - a lot of people were confused so just voted for the heck of it.<br /><br />I split my vote - but am gutted that Harry Duynhoven didn't get back in for my electorate.  He has done such a huge amount of work for our region, that he has my confidence.  I really don't know what to think about the final result...I guess we will see in the future.<br /><br />As for the Greens, I could never vote for a party who is so obsessed with climate control or whatever it is, that they would tell people to stop having children so they could reduce their carbon footprint.  That is just my opinion however.<br /><br />]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18887">BuzzyBee</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 3:56pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by WRXandJosh" alt="Originally posted by WRXandJosh" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>WRXandJosh wrote:</strong><br /><br />Seriously our goverment needs a huge wake up call and i wish everyone had voted Bill and Ben just to show them that we are sick of the crap and want a true leader that is genuine about our futures and not just someone who can say what the people want to hear and slander the competition.<br /></td></tr></table><br /><br />How the hell is voting for them going to prove any kind of a point? Especially regarding futures and wanting to be taken seriously ...]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18887">BuzzyBee</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 3:52pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by WRXandJosh" alt="Originally posted by WRXandJosh" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>WRXandJosh wrote:</strong><br /><br />Personally i think there needed to be a change because if one person is in for too long they start to think they can get away with anything (like wasting money to be flown to invercargill for a grey power meeting that she only made an appearance for no real reason - come on priorities woman!) However i hate john keys smarmy attitude and he seems totally untrustworthy.  This whole election was a complete and utter joke IMHO.  Elections are a big money waster as well why cant each party send out 1 leaflet on their policies and budget and give the rest of the money to say the healthcare system.  I dont wanna see a cat fight between our so called leaders on tv or anywhere.  How can you take the voting system seriously when dementia patients can vote??  They can even remember who they voted for or even who their families are!!!  Seriously our goverment needs a huge wake up call and i wish everyone had voted Bill and Ben just to show them that we are sick of the crap and want a true leader that is genuine about our futures and not just someone who can say what the people want to hear and slander the competition.<br /><br />Sorry huge rant but its not the out come im upset about its they way our goverment and the elections are going about everything that fires me up.</td></tr></table><br /><br />I'm sorry but I'm taking offence to you referring to a dementia patient, my Poppa has dementia and he is still of sound mind enough to vote and have his say. He can comprehend what he's reading and he watches the news 24/7. He's not a total write off. He knows who I am, and he still knows who is old friends from school are. <br /><br />Your comment was a generalization, a false one at that. I don't like how you've singled out dementia patients, they are entitled to a vote just as much as the next person. They are only human after all. <br /><br />If you don't like the way the country is being run and you think it's a joke don't you think its a bit contradictory opting to vote for complete idiots who are only running to take the piss? <br /><br />Get off your high horse. And think before you 'speak' next time (re: dementia <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif" border="0"> ) ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18078">caliandjack</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 3:50pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by LittleBug" alt="Originally posted by LittleBug" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>LittleBug wrote:</strong><br /><br />I just can't believe that the Bill and Ben Party got over $10,000 votes!! What the !?</td></tr></table><br /><br />HA HA! That's very funny!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17989">WRXnKids</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 3:37pm<br /><br />Personally i think there needed to be a change because if one person is in for too long they start to think they can get away with anything (like wasting money to be flown to invercargill for a grey power meeting that she only made an appearance for no real reason - come on priorities woman!) However i hate john keys smarmy attitude and he seems totally untrustworthy.  This whole election was a complete and utter joke IMHO.  Elections are a big money waster as well why cant each party send out 1 leaflet on their policies and budget and give the rest of the money to say the healthcare system.  I dont wanna see a cat fight between our so called leaders on tv or anywhere.  How can you take the voting system seriously when dementia patients can vote??  They can even remember who they voted for or even who their families are!!!  Seriously our goverment needs a huge wake up call and i wish everyone had voted Bill and Ben just to show them that we are sick of the crap and want a true leader that is genuine about our futures and not just someone who can say what the people want to hear and slander the competition.<br /><br />Sorry huge rant but its not the out come im upset about its they way our goverment and the elections are going about everything that fires me up.  ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18551">LittleBug</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 3:37pm<br /><br />I didn't vote National or Labour, but I'm glad National got the votes.<br /><br />I just can't believe that the Bill and Ben Party got over $10,000 votes!! What the !?]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18078">caliandjack</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 3:26pm<br /><br />National have always spent more on defence than Labour. <br />Under Labour we have a Navy without frigates and an Air Force without any combat capability, the Army got their lavs but can't take em any where.<br /><br />I feel very saddened that people want to give up their teaching careers because of a change in government.  <br />During the course of your career I'm sure there will be many such changes and education among them, it would be a shame to lose your talents because you don't agree with the system.<br /><br />The future of the economy is for me far more of an issue than anything else, I've already lost my job this year as a result of it, and without an income nothing else matters.  I can't afford to look after my health or improve my education without having a job to pay for it. ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17430">mummy_becks</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 3:12pm<br /><br /><P align=left>Emz, I was just told by someone that National is a NZDF supporter as Labour sold off the skyhawks.</P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17854">emz</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 3:02pm<br /><br />I am disappointed National got in, but not surprised. The thing that does worry me is that the future of the economy had a greater impact on the majority of the voters over the future of our health and education systems. I know that they can go hand in hand, but its interesting to see the country swing from a socialist attitude (the whole 'we're all in this together' thing) to one driven by the economy.<br /><br />My major upset with National is the national testing they wish to impose on younger children. It has been proven ineffective and was therefore changed to in-class assessments and work samples over testing. I worry about what I'm actually going to be teaching with the new changes, and don't know if I want to be teaching at all if its teaching to a test.<br /><br />But anyway, the country has voted (shame about it being such a right wing govt though <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> grr about ACT!) and now we shall wait and see what effects they have on all of us. Being a one income household at the moment, and with my DH being a soldier and me being a teacher, we are pretty much screwed for the next 3 years if they have their way and do the testing and agreeing to cut NZDF spending (which has always been a Nats policy from way back).<br /><br />Does anyone know what happens with WFF? I know they said they wouldn't reduce it, but I'm guessing they won't increase it every year with inflation like Labour did either? <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18232">Shezamumof3</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 2:50pm<br /><br />Kelly, dont leave OB cos of this hun, you are entitled to your opinion, my family voted for National, they hate Helen Clark, nuff said!!<br />As for me, I didnt vote at all, as I have no idea who to choose and I wasnt going to vote just "to vote".<br /><br />Why do people get SO pissy of damn polictics, I really DONT get it. <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley13.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley24.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=43">linda</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 2:05pm<br /><br />Some people are quite open about who they vote for and especially first timers.  A lot of people that I spoke to had no interest in politics and were voting for who there father voted for....and I think that was me 20 odd years ago when I first voted.<br /><br />I would be very interested in a referrendum on MMP.  I know my views but would like to see what the country on a whole thinks of it.  If memory serves me right only Germany has MMP and they have a much bigger population.<br /><br />I'm a national voter and for the last three elections haven't liked the result when Labour got it (very said household for a few days).&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;And its a nice change that the party I voted for won.  I'm happy, my family are happy as is my extended family.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10154">fattartsrock</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 1:52pm<br /><br />I'm just worried about the poor people, who will be worse off.  Especially if Bill English rolls JK (like JK thinks he might) I truely believe there is a strong link between poverty and crime.<br /><br />Technically, we should be better off, as we have a business and a "higher" income, but I voted thinking of others and for things I care about.<br /><br />Gets a bit heated, this politics thing, aye? Whatever happend to not askign people who they vote for? used to be a no no in my younger days!<br /><br />I guess we all have our reasons for who we vote for.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=207">Maya</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 1:52pm<br /><br />*just keeping an administrative eye on threads which could get lively*]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17969">cuppatea</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 1:50pm<br /><br />I personally think that what happens in America with their new government will have more influence on NZ than our own goverment does just because at the moment the main issues are worldwide ones not domestic ones.<br /><br />I voted greens, I am disappointment labour didn't get in again, but i'm not going to Aus, not until they get rid of all those spiders anyway.<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=682">Bizzy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 1:46pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by caitlynsmygirl" alt="Originally posted by caitlynsmygirl" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>caitlynsmygirl wrote:</strong><br /><br /><br />You know what? if i have to come on to a forum that I once enjoyed and feel like I have to justify my own personal choice, Id rather not be here, so, see you all later .</td></tr></table><br /><br />i dont think anyone has asked you to justify your choice... it would be a shame to leave just cause  you dont like the way one thread is going...<br /><br />actually i find it rather amusing you are getting so upset, seeing as you normally dont indulge in arguments and instead like to post tension breaking comments...along with yumi - wonder where she is?<br /><br />Good on you kelly for voting how you want and not being ashamed to say... <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />i think it is a bit sad national got in - i dont like john key - but i am not going to run away to australia and will wait and see what is going to happen next.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18013">peanut butter</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 1:31pm<br /><br />As for moving to Australia....do you not realise its full of Aussies<IMG src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"><IMG src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"><IMG src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0">]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18078">caliandjack</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 1:29pm<br /><br />I guess any discussion about politics is going to get heated! <br /><br />We do after all live in a democracy where everyone is entitled to have their point of view. <br /><br />Its funny about the 'moving to Australia' comment, as I know a few who were going if Labour got back in, be interesting to see if we lose more for National being in instead. Interesting times we live in.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18013">peanut butter</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 1:24pm<br /><br /><P>Fleury that was very well written and shares a lot of my sentiments.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>What I am upset about is the way such strong opinions are being forced on people here.&nbsp; As Kelly said, this is meant to be a fun forum to visit......mind you, if everyone moves to Australia....<IMG src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>We've got them for 3 years whether you wanted it or not.&nbsp; The country has voted!&nbsp; Thats what its all about.&nbsp; I'm looking forward to a different way of thinking.</P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18078">caliandjack</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 1:23pm<br /><br />Specials tend to favour the Greens, so they may pick up an extra seat.<br /><br />The country is in for a tough ride over the next three years, most of which will have nothing to do with who is in government. <br />The economy is slowing and it will get worse, and yup National will get blamed for it all.<br /><br />I did think however after watching the American elections, that NZ's were a bit boring! I'm more excited over Obama than Key.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19975">mrsturtle</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 1:16pm<br /><br />i must say im dissapointed in the election result. <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley6.gif" border="0"> <br />watch the country go down hill for the next 3 years then labour will come and rebuild it again just like every other time national has been in. <br />Dose anyone think the special votes will have much of an impact with the results???? They can take a couple of weeks to count so how many are there? i know i had to do a special one cause they had me in the wrong electrate. ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18727">kriss</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 1:13pm<br /><br />Me too, doesn't seem to benefit me or my new family at all <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0"> Australia looks more appealing every month..]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18078">caliandjack</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 1:08pm<br /><br />I voted for National for the first time since I've been voting.<br />I'm glad John Key got in, I like him, he's someone who has picked himself up from a very poor start, and made something of himself. <br />He knows how to manage people, and he's worked in business.<br /><br />I feel with the current financial crisis having someone in charge who knows a lot about managing people, and finance is really important, as the only way NZ is going to get through the next few years, is by businesses being supported and encouraged to be innovative. <br /><br />Yes its been a good 9 years, but then the world economy has been good too, I don't think that is entirely coincidence.<br /><br />I wasn't surprised that Helen Clark stood down, after a 30 year career in politics, 9 as Prime Minister, what else has she got left to achieve.  I mean look how well Jim Bolger has done since he lost, he now runs the trains and the bank.<br /><br />Liz, I wish the Greens were more focuses on the environment, unfortunatley with the likes of Sue Bradford in their ranks you get useless bits of legislation like the 'Anit-smaking Bill'.  Preserving the environment is important, but on a personal level, when I'm worried about employment and having an income, the environment becomes a distant second.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21135">jaymiegirl</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 1:03pm<br /><br />Yeah... Politics are not a good subject.. Everyones views on it are not the same, we all have different opinions about it... <br /><br />very dissapointed with the outcome of the election though :(]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17430">mummy_becks</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 12:06pm<br /><br /><P align=left>Yep Liz said it. Its not a dig at why she voted National but why when she said nationals Health policy is everything I have read you mum to be against - it just confused me.</P><P align=left>And if you read I never asked at one time ask why she voted National I asked about the health policy in particular.</P><P align=left>I can see now why a forum I go to in the states put a blanket ban on talking politics.</P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=564">lizzle</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 11:59am<br /><br />Kelly, I think - and not trying to speak for others - but that Becks was just interested in what about those policies in particular your mum liked - since they seemed to be in oppoisition to what she often says - and maybe the words needed to be rephrased a little to make it seem more like that, and less like a WHY DID YOU CHOSE THIS PARTY kind of thing.<br /><br />as for why people voted the way they did, i am seriously interested as maybe I've missed something.  National's education policy does concern me and that was the main reason I was/am so opposed to them being in power.  But in saying that, I voted Green. I don't think Green should be in main power, but I think they speak on behalf of the "planet" ( i know that sounds sooooo.....icky), and that with major policies, we DO need to consider the environment.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10235">caitlynsmygirl</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 11:52am<br /><br />What I don't get and it would be nice if you explain it please Susie, you like National's health policies, but I have seen you here type day after day about getting Karitane hospital's back - you do realise National don't like them, National got rid of most of them, and National want to privatise everything which means you would have to pay for your maternity care (in years to come if they stayed around for a while) which is totally not what Karitane hospitals are about. What do you like about their health policy please??<br /><br />I have today decided I am not continuing with me teaching degree, I do not think national standard testing is good for teachers or students alike. As a mother of a child who is entering school next year I am very worried for his education.<br /><br />Don't forget National and their ACC policy, you will have to pay for you accident care soon.<br /><br /><br /><br />um, no offence, but why does she need to justify why she chose a certain party ? im not going to ask everyone why they voted labour , or Greens , or Bill and Ben .<br />Voting is a personal choice and one we are all entitled to.<br />I didnt go into the poll booth without having thought of it at all, without having weighed up the pros and cons of both , and TBH it was a very very close call .But i had my reasons, and I dont think I or anyone else has to justify why they voted for someone .<br />And no, I dont think anyone needs "to get over it" if they <br />are disappointed with the results, but I dont think anyone needs to pick at people who chose the opposite to what they did, challenging them etc picking on things they have said in the past .<br /><br />You know what? if i have to come on to a forum that I once enjoyed and feel like I have to justify my own personal choice, Id rather not be here, so, see you all later . ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=16181">kebakat</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 11:50am<br /><br />It's making me seriously reconsider what area of teaching I want to go in. I don't want to enter teaching just to teach kids how to pass a stupid test <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0">]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=448">nikkitheknitter</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 11:29am<br /><br /><img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />Worried.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17511">Kels</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 11:07am<br /><br /><P align=left>Very sad here too and way more scared for the future of NZ. I am at the front line of seeing what poverty we already have here and NZ and with the national govt in power I can imagine it is only going to get worse.</P><P align=left>Now I wonder how many of the national voters are going to be&nbsp;stabbed in the back when they realise none of the National policies will help them out at all.</P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17430">mummy_becks</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 10:57am<br /><br /><P align=left>Oh and another thing, I am sad Helen has stood down. Who will be the leader now??</P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17430">mummy_becks</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 10:57am<br /><br /><P align=left>Go Liz!!!! I am so behind you there. Change for change sake is a joke. I don't trust John, Bill, or Rodney as far as I could throw them all. If ACT do a collilition and get Rodger Douglas in as Finance minister I am seriously going to look at moving to OZ - that man is damage with a capital D.</P><P align=left>What I don't get and it would be nice if you explain it please Susie, you like National's health policies, but I have seen you here type day after day about getting Karitane hospital's back&nbsp;- you do realise National don't like them, National got rid of most of them, and National want to privatise everything which means you would have to pay for your maternity care (in years to come if they stayed around for a while) which is totally not what Karitane hospitals are about. What do you like about their health policy please??</P><P align=left>I have today decided I am not continuing with me teaching degree, I do not think national standard testing is good for teachers or students alike. As a mother of a child who is entering school next year I am very worried for his education.</P><P align=left>Don't forget National and their ACC policy, you will have to pay for you accident care soon.</P><P align=left>i could go on and on but I won't.</P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17921">.Mel</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 10:52am<br /><br />I was very well informed too, and I take exception to the fact that I should be getting over it.  I don't want to get over it.  <br /><br />]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18079">DJ</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 10:18am<br /><br />Wasn't that a nightmare you had Linda?<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"><br /><br /> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0"> I'm in mourning<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />Interesting to hear that people on here would consider moving to Aus given the election result when old "shonkey" thought a Nat govt would keep people here.<br /><br />Sigh, the Nats are one thing, but Act having so much say really bothers me. Roger Douglas - seriously! Arrrgh!!!!!!!!!!!!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=564">lizzle</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 9:15am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by ChundaMars" alt="Originally posted by ChundaMars" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>ChundaMars wrote:</strong><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by lizzle" alt="Originally posted by lizzle" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>lizzle wrote:</strong><br /><br />i know!!  the poor of this country are screwed!</td></tr></table><br /><br />. You really think that 45% of people in NZ are "rich"?</td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />Oh, and 45% of NZ didn't vote for National.  45% of the people who voted did - I wonder how many taht actuall equates to?  (no, i seriously do - how many people who are eligible (which is just under 3 mil I think), actually voted?))]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10235">caitlynsmygirl</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 9:03am<br /><br />edited because the silly thing posted same thing twice, and thats just repetitive <br /><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by caitlynsmygirl</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10235">caitlynsmygirl</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 9:03am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by lady_aset" alt="Originally posted by lady_aset" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>lady_aset wrote:</strong><br /><br /><img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0"> <br /><img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />all I can say is I hope people who said they voted National for a "change" but have no fricken idea what the change is realise the gravity of what they have done..<br /><br />.</td></tr></table><br /><br />no, got no idea , <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley13.gif" border="0"> <br />actually, no, I didnt vote National for a change because I think JK is more "fun" or I was sick of looking at Helen Clarke, as I said , I have my personal reasons for voting for them .<br />If they f*ck up , then I will happily say , I should have voted for labour .<br /><br /><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by caitlynsmygirl</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=43">linda</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 8:59am<br /><br />I had a good dream last night that National won...oh right, it wasn't a dream, they did!]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Electi&#111;n Time... : Well , the good thing is , if...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10235">caitlynsmygirl</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 8:57am<br /><br />Well , the good thing is , if they do suck during there 3 years that they are leading the country  , perhaps they will be voted out next election .<br /><br />I voted National , I like the idea of change but not for change sake, I have my reasons for voting for them , but thats between me , and me . <br />And if they let me down , then I'll make sure I vote for Labour next time . ]]>
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   <pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 08:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17925">arohanui</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 8:10am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by lizzle" alt="Originally posted by lizzle" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>lizzle wrote:</strong><br /><br />and no, I don't think 45% of the country are rich, but I do think many people in the xountry blame the government (Labour) for things that were worldwide, and thay regardless of WHO was in, people want a change, but don't realise that change for change-sake is not always desirable.</td></tr></table><br /><br />This is SO true!  In fact, a few weeks ago I was going to vote for National.  This was before I was fully informed, and the reason I would have voted for them would have been for a 'change'.<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by lizzle" alt="Originally posted by lizzle" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>lizzle wrote:</strong><br /><br />AND  (can you tell I'm pissed about it being implied I'm uninformed) Nationals' education policy, rather than targeting problems we DO have like massive understaffing, will test our children more and more.....testing.....despite the PPTA telling them that testing is actually the last thing we need, that our teeachers are over worked and underpaid and at the moment our  teachers are over assessing...oh no, Mr Keys knows better and will introduce "national standards testing"....which we already have.<br /><br />GRRRRRR - am hoping this is a policy that they conveniently "forget" about.</td></tr></table><br /><br />Tell me about it!!!!!!  I had a minor freakout in bed last night cos of this policy.  Teachers/students/parents/school do not need standardised testing... it's the last thing we need!!!  Obviously they don't realise the level of assessment we actually do (both formative and summative) and that if they want to compare they can use running records (probe) and PAT's, both of which are already used country-wide in primary schools!  Grrrr.<br /><br />A big deal breaker for me was that John Key would have sent troops to Iraq.  That is something I am really against.  Imagine how different our lives would be now if he had been in power on Sept 11th??<br /><br />So my vote for labour wasn't necessarily a strong vote of confidence in labour - but it WAS a strong vote of no confidence for national. ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10366">susieq</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 8:00am<br /><br />And Caitlyns Dad and his wife voted National and they live in Australia]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10366">susieq</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 7:59am<br /><br />I actually voted National too and we are anything but rich and I voted act for my party vote, I like Nationals Health policy,s and theres and acts zero crime policy ,<br />We should give them a chance.<br />And I am pleased Winston has gone and I am pleased Helen has gone too,<br />I actually think alot of people wanted change and we got it<br />]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=564">lizzle</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 7:58am<br /><br />AND  (can you tell I'm pissed about it being implied I'm uninformed) Nationals' education policy, rather than targeting problems we DO have like massive understaffing, will test our children more and more.....testing.....despite the PPTA telling them that testing is actually the last thing we need, that our teeachers are over worked and underpaid and at the moment our  teachers are over assessing...oh no, Mr Keys knows better and will introduce "national standards testing"....which we already have.<br /><br />GRRRRRR - am hoping this is a policy that they conveniently "forget" about.]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Electi&#111;n Time... : Chunda Mars I agree in part with...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=20132">Troods</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 7:56am<br /><br />Chunda Mars I agree in part with you and that's why my party vote was for neither N or P.  Yes Auntie H and her party has become tiresome, but JK and his party don't appeal to me either.  This so called "change" may not necessarily be for the better.  IMO JK is a slimey lying little man, with other slimey lying little men pulling his puppet strings, and I wouldn't be surprised if they gang up on JK, boot him out of the party leadership, and one of them take over and go back on JK's compaign "promises" and send the country backwards.  Also, DH is worried about the proposed change to the Employment Relations Act - the 90 day trial period during which time an employee can be dismissed, and A C T want to make this on a "without grievance" basis.  Scary stuff for some NZers.  <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley13.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=564">lizzle</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 20858<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 November 2008 at 7:50am<br /><br />actually yes I do.  I am ACTUALLY quite well informed and not one of those people whop vote for people cause they liked the leader's tie or whatever.  National has said they don't support WFF, they want DPB people to be finding work if their child is over 6 - now while I agree this is a good idea in principle, I also think the amount of jobs where this would be possible AND still raise a child well are very few and far between.  I don't like the idea that kiwibank will be sold of - and I know that Keys has said he won't....for now - but I don't trust him.<br />I am concerned that these "tax cuts" will benefit those who are higher up on the salary scale (which will actually benefit me), but will once again, build a huge gap between the rich and poor.<br /><br />as for building more jails!  I am of the belief that MORE money put intosocial schemes that target our "at risk" youth, actually decreases the need for extra prisons.  <br /><br /><br />and no, I don't think 45% of the country are rich, but I do think many people in the xountry blame the government (Labour) for things that were worldwide, and thay regardless of WHO was in, people want a change, but don't realise that change for change-sake is not always desirable.<br /><br />]]>
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