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   <title><![CDATA[LOL @ the plastic surgery ad : LOL thats funny, I agree I dont...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19832">Natalie_G</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21274<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 September 2008 at 1:50pm<br /><br />LOL thats funny, I agree I dont think anyone looks attractive doing that. <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10377">Mazzy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21274<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 September 2008 at 1:49pm<br /><br />LMAO!!!]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[LOL @ the plastic surgery ad : lol Kelly, in my house it was...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10154">fattartsrock</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21274<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 September 2008 at 1:48pm<br /><br />lol Kelly, in my house it was "Even the Queen sh*ts!"]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[LOL @ the plastic surgery ad : As far as my daughters self esteem...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10235">caitlynsmygirl</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21274<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 September 2008 at 1:44pm<br /><br />As far as my daughters self esteem goes, apart from telling her how beautiful and proud i am of her everyday , i'll tell her the same thing my Grandma told me .."even the prettiest stars , the best looking models ...sit on the toilet and poo  as well " ..dont think ANYONE looks attractive doing that <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10377">Mazzy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21274<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 September 2008 at 12:43pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by fattartsrock" alt="Originally posted by fattartsrock" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>fattartsrock wrote:</strong><br /><br />I can't believe what a bunch of nanas we have on here!!<br /><br />No wonder people aren't open about it when they have it done.  <br /><br />There are plastic surgery ads and even columns in the magazines we read, the body beautiful image is out there everywhere.<br /><br />We should be helping our own self esteem and that of our daughters, not relying on others to do so, and certainly not "blaming" magazines, websites etc for poor self image etc.</td></tr></table><br /><br />Well if I'm a nana then I'm proud of it! <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />Why can't people be open about having plastic surgery?  All I've read so far is why people don't like it for themselves and why they don't like the whole 'body beautiful' pressure in society.  Just because I give my opinion on why it's not right for me doesn't mean I'm judging anyone else who has it done.  <br /><br />You're right, the body beautiful image IS all around us.  That's the point some people are making - it was nice not to have it in our faces here.  <br /><br />I agree that it's my job to build up my daughters' self esteem and make them strong, but I'm not the only influencer in that respect.  They will read those magazines and look at websites and watch TV and talk to their friends - there are so many places they will get bombarded with that 'perfect' message.  <br /><br />By voicing my opinion and standing up to the 'body beautiful' messages, I am hoping to somehow have an impact on the society my daughters and I live in.  When they see me stand up to that impossible ideal (and it is impossible, airbrushing and all), they are learning to have confidence in themselves (without surgery <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> ) and build their self esteem.  Magazines and websites aren't to blame for poor self image, but they sure don't help improve things.<br /><br />JMTCW<br /><br />Edited to fix spelling and grammar<span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by Mazzy</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17979">MummyFreckle</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21274<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 September 2008 at 9:38am<br /><br /><P><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by fattartsrock" alt="Originally posted by fattartsrock" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>fattartsrock wrote:</strong><br /><br />I can't believe what a bunch of nanas we have on here!! <BR><BR>No wonder people aren't open about it when they have it done. <BR><BR>There are plastic surgery ads and even columns in the magazines we read, the body beautiful image is out there everywhere. <BR><BR>We should be helping our own self esteem and that of our daughters, not relying on others to do so, and certainly not "blaming" magazines, websites etc for poor self image etc.</td></tr></table> </P><P>I think we all agree that we have to help our own self-estreem, but I also dont think that at some point&nbsp; businesses need to start going against the grain of conventional advertising - look at Dove&nbsp;and their use of women that would not be classed as perfect by the rest of the advertising world. I just think its time that more companies were getting brave and saying "its alright to have wobbly bits, its alright to have wrinkles, its alright to have grey hair....you are still beautiful". </P><P>However, I also think that human nature will always make us want to look better than we do...but I think its about making the expectations and goals REALISTIC ones, and not airbrushed ones. </P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=993">jack_&_charli</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21274<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 September 2008 at 9:32am<br /><br />as a mum with a daughter, if she ever wanted surgery to boost her self esteem, i would fully support her decision.  she would have to pay for it herself though.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;i would much rather have a happy, healthy, confident daughter who had surgery, than<br />one that's unhappy, no self esteem which develops into an eating disorder because she is unhappy in her skin.  no amount of talking to her is going to change the way she feels about her looks....it never did for me!<br /><br />this 'being happy in your own skin' thing is something some people just can't do.  i've struggled with my weight all my life and yes, i've done ww and the gym.  but i just cannot get rid of the saggy belly (even before the kids!)<br /><br />my mum, my MIL and my nana are bigger ladies and fine with it, so it's not like i am pressured from anywhere.  DH loves me the way i am, but i myself am not happy with how i look.<br /><br />it's not from looking at models in magazines, it's not seeing gorgeous slim actresses everywhere that makes me want to change how i look, it's from looking in the mirror and seeing the bulges and saggy belly that does it for me.  not being confident with myself to take my kids swimming...........and an advert for plastic surgery doesn't make me feel any worse than i did before so i don't see any problem with it<br /><br />JMHO!<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10154">fattartsrock</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21274<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 September 2008 at 9:25am<br /><br />I can't believe what a bunch of nanas we have on here!!<br /><br />No wonder people aren't open about it when they have it done.  <br /><br />There are plastic surgery ads and even columns in the magazines we read, the body beautiful image is out there everywhere.<br /><br />We should be helping our own self esteem and that of our daughters, not relying on others to do so, and certainly not "blaming" magazines, websites etc for poor self image etc.]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[LOL @ the plastic surgery ad :   SimSam wrote:&#160;I am also a little...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18063">T_Rex</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21274<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 September 2008 at 1:41am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by SimSam" alt="Originally posted by SimSam" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>SimSam wrote:</strong><br /><br /><p> I am also a little disapointed that OB are buying into this social stigma, rather than adopting a "love your body, love yourself - even with all its flabby bits" attitude. </p><br /><p> </p></td></tr></table><br /><br />Agreed SimSam. <br /><br />Also, I'm curious, how many of you have young daughters that occassionally look over your shoulders while you are on OhBaby? Is it a message you want them to be getting?]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4613">Jennz</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21274<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 30 September 2008 at 12:35am<br /><br />This reminds me of a plastic surgery advertisement they had in the toilets at the movie theater in Newmarket.  up on the wall of each cubicle they had an advertisement so when you sat down to wee that was right at your eye level.  I remember thinking it was such clever placement as most woman have just been in and seen a movie where the woman are made up to perfection and shot in a way to make them look as glamorous as possible and then afterwards you go to have a wee and 'bam!' - they get ya while you're self esteem is low.  <br />Clever- but kind of predatory.  <br />Thats a bit how I feel about having an ad on the Oh Baby page.  Yes its clever, yes Oh Baby is a business and advertising is what makes them money, yes if people find issue with it it has more to do with their own issues than the 'advertiser'- but it just seems a bit.... off really, to 'prey' on new Mums.<br /><br />On one of the posters someone had written in vivid "you are beautiful just as you are"- gave me warm fuzzies seeing that <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0">  Now thats what I think of whenever I see plastic surgery advertisements now <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0"> <span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by Jennz</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10377">Mazzy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21274<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29 September 2008 at 10:42pm<br /><br />Yup, one of the many reasons I miss living/working in Auckland.  Sigh.  <br />So cool you go there - have fun getting back into it!<br /><br />Sorry for the TJ! ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10377">Mazzy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21274<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29 September 2008 at 10:22pm<br /><br />Ooh Jess I used to work above Bodytech and had a gym membership in my employment package, that place is awesome!  I did spend waaaaay too much time in the steam room tho! ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17979">MummyFreckle</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21274<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29 September 2008 at 9:44pm<br /><br /><P>We are all sensible enough to understand that OB is a business, and selling advertising space to a target audience is a great way of generating revenue, however I do think that its a little naive to think that people are not going to react to it when placed in such a prominent position - whether they be positive or negative reactions. </P><P>I personally have an issue, given that we are constantly bombarded with images of the perfect body. I guess I feel that this is just another reminder of the pressure to "conform" to a post baby body ideal....that for most of us is unrealistic without a lot of hard work. </P><P>&nbsp;I am also a little disapointed that OB are buying into this social stigma, rather than adopting a "love your body, love yourself&nbsp;- even with all its flabby bits" attitude. </P><P>&lt;sits back and waits to be flamed&gt;</P><P>&nbsp;</P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=993">jack_&_charli</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21274<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29 September 2008 at 8:55pm<br /><br />i've been going to the gym for 4-5mths now and am only just now starting to see the results.....in my arms!  my tummy hasn't really changed and it's starting to get me down.............so yes, if i won lotto, i probably would have the surgery to get rid of the jelly belly and lift my saggy boobs<br /><br />i am down about my body, always have been.  but i don't find an advert for plastic surgery in-appropriate at all.  it doesn't make me feel any worse about myself]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18188">Candkids</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21274<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29 September 2008 at 3:10pm<br /><br />lol<br />hadnt even noticed till now<br /><br />]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18232">Shezamumof3</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21274<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29 September 2008 at 1:34pm<br /><br />But then again I gues it is just an ad....<br /><br />ETA- I have had a think about this, ok, yes, I dont like the ad, I think something to help women lose weight more realisticly would be more tastefull, BUT in saying that, there are women out there who would want to go down the plastic surgery road if they were really really down about their body. <br />I know my mum, after having breastfed 4 babies, doesnt like he boobs cos they are very saggy and have no "fat" left in them(this is what she told me, I havent seen them lol) and she would LOVE to have boob job to put them back to where they used to be. She is extremly down about her boobs.<br /><br />So I guess, if they do an ad for losing weight by exercise and stuf, then why ot have one for plastic surgery, if you can afford to do it then why not!<br /><br /><br /><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by CadensMum</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18232">Shezamumof3</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21274<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29 September 2008 at 1:32pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Peanut" alt="Originally posted by Peanut" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Peanut wrote:</strong><br /><br />I thought it was kinda inappropriate really!<br /><br />Way to make people feel good about themselves<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0"></td></tr></table><br /><br />I thought that aswell.....<br />There would be a lot of us with a bit of "overhang" that cant afford to have it done.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19393">MrsMojo</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21274<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29 September 2008 at 1:30pm<br /><br /><P><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by monikah" alt="Originally posted by monikah" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>monikah wrote:</strong><br /><br />why dont i have any ads? i never have had any ads that i know of but i really wanna see it. lol. my husband is a computer geek so i assume all ads are blocked on my PC. typical the one time i want ads</td></tr></table> </P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>You probably have pop-ups blocked.</P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19433">monikah</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21274<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29 September 2008 at 1:28pm<br /><br />why dont i have any ads? i never have had any ads that i know of but i really wanna see it. lol. my husband is a computer geek so i assume all ads are blocked on my PC. typical the one time i want ads]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=16220">peachy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21274<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29 September 2008 at 1:26pm<br /><br />Each time I come on OhBaby and see those pics in the ad they inspire me to get off my fat chuff, get outside and exercise those love handles off <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />The ad doesn't offend me at all, makes me determined to work my butt off exercising so I don't need the surgery!<br /><br />JMHO though <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18013">peanut butter</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21274<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29 September 2008 at 1:14pm<br /><br /><P><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by pepsi" alt="Originally posted by pepsi" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>pepsi wrote:</strong><br /><br />Good grief it's just an ad!! <BR><BR>I'm not a small girl, but something like that certainly doesn't make me upset or depressed just cause it's there.. I am baffled as to why people are making such a big deal about it? <BR></td></tr></table> </P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I was actually impressed at the improvement they made.&nbsp; OK, we should all love our bodies.blah blah blah..but come on....most of us dont and would love to get rid of our flabby bits, droopy bits and stretchmarks. I know I would.&nbsp; The one thing that gets me down about my body at the moment is the squishy flabby bit at the bottom of my bump that was left over from Tom.</P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10377">Mazzy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21274<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29 September 2008 at 1:08pm<br /><br />Pasted from other thread as well:<br /><br />It was the first thing that loaded on the page for me so couldn't miss it!&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I actually think it's really bad placement by the company, although us all talking about it means it's getting noticed so their marketing people are probably reading these threads and enjoying the extra attention it brings to their business.<br /><br />I don't like the ad and I have a big problem with the perception in society that we should all strive for the 'perfect body' after having kids.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;That ad is one small part of a much bigger problem, and I don't enjoy seeing it flashing on my screen every time I go to a new forum page.<br /><br />That said, OHBaby! is a business and they're here to make an income. They can sell advertising to whoever they want and I can see how the plastic surgery ad hits a certain target market here. My values don't come into it.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10360">pepsi</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21274<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29 September 2008 at 12:56pm<br /><br />Good grief it's just an ad!!  <br /><br />I'm not a small girl, but something like that certainly doesn't make me upset or depressed just cause it's there.. I am baffled as to why people are making such a big deal about it?<br />]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17802">Bobbie</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21274<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29 September 2008 at 12:32pm<br /><br />I don't particularly like it but I acknowledge that OB is a business and needs advertising revenue. ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17613">Parki</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21274<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29 September 2008 at 12:15pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by fattartsrock" alt="Originally posted by fattartsrock" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>fattartsrock wrote:</strong><br /><br />*copied and pasted from other thread*<br /><br />It's JUST an ad, and the purpose of that ad is not to make you feel bad. Not intending to offend here, but your self images issues are your issues, not Oh Babies. They are a business and need to operate as one. Its the same (IMHO) as being offended by formula or breastfeedign ads. Plastic surgery is a part of life today, and yup, I would have it in a heartbeat. <br /><br /></td></tr></table><br /><br />I completely agree.....<br /><br />It is just an advertisment.  <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0"> <br />]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17548">Rachael21</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21274<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29 September 2008 at 12:09pm<br /><br />I think its really innapropriate here. Why should we have to feel like we need a perfect body anyway? I sure as hell don't look like that and why should I have to. Its just adding to the pressure to be perfect.<br /><br />Yip sure its just an ad and ohbaby needs to make money but its so not the place for it on here. ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10154">fattartsrock</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21274<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29 September 2008 at 12:01pm<br /><br />*copied and pasted from other thread*<br /><br />It's JUST an ad, and the purpose of that ad is not to make you feel bad. Not intending to offend here, but your self images issues are your issues, not Oh Babies. They are a business and need to operate as one. Its the same (IMHO) as being offended by formula or breastfeedign ads. Plastic surgery is a part of life today, and yup, I would have it in a heartbeat. <br /><br />]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17854">emz</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21274<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29 September 2008 at 11:21am<br /><br />^^I agree with you^^<br /><br />way to make a lot of women feel crap about themselves all at once <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />I know this is a business, but thought this place was also about empowering and supporting, not trying to get a few bucks of those of us who already have low self esteem. Well done, well done <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley6.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19108">TraceyA</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21274<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29 September 2008 at 11:11am<br /><br />I think it's horrible. I think that women who have had children should be idealised for their post-pregnancy bodies. I hate that our society is so stuck on this image of flat, tight bodies. They are not realistic and don't help to make anyone feel good about themselves. I'm not saying that all plastic surgery is bad, my friend had twins a few years ago and she is the most flexible person I know (and I grew up in the circus so I know flexible) and as a result her stomach skin stretched so much that after the birth she could literally pull her stomach skin up over her breasts practically to her chin! She had plastic surgery to correct that. I just hate that it's being pushed at women who look fine. Those women in the pictures in the add don't look bad to me.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17585">Peanut</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21274<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29 September 2008 at 10:52am<br /><br />Hey, I am the first one that would be in for it - but can't afford it!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10428">baalamb</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21274<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29 September 2008 at 10:31am<br /><br />Yeah I thought it was a bit odd. The first thing I thought of was well, if most people could afford it, sure. But it's not a reality for most.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17613">Parki</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21274<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29 September 2008 at 9:34am<br /><br />I don't really see too much harm in having it on a website like this.<br /><br />There are heaps of Mums (and non-mums) on here that would jump at the chance to have surgery post pregnany, or just because......<br /><br />Its just a reality.  <br />Its not like the pictures are yuk or anything?]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10360">pepsi</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21274<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29 September 2008 at 9:28am<br /><br />sh*t if I had the money, I'd be all in for a body overhaul! ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17772">minik8e</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21274<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29 September 2008 at 9:15am<br /><br />I'm kind of with Peanut - I did have a giggle, but only because I thought - seriously, what an ad to have on a pregnancy website where we're trying to tell Mums they're beautiful no matter what LOL]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17585">Peanut</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21274<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29 September 2008 at 9:04am<br /><br />I thought it was kinda inappropriate really!<br /><br />Way to make people feel good about themselves<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0"> <span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by Peanut</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18013">peanut butter</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21274<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29 September 2008 at 9:04am<br /><br />bloody tempting isnt it.&nbsp;&nbsp; Whos tummies look like that.&nbsp; Mine!!!!! (when its not preggers)]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19107">MissAngel</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21274<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 29 September 2008 at 8:59am<br /><br />Has anyone else noticed it to the right there ---&gt; Gave me a good chuckle! ]]>
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