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   <title><![CDATA[tummy sleeping :   maltese wrote:Discussed this...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17511">Kels</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21529<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 October 2008 at 9:58pm<br /><br /><P align=left><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by maltese" alt="Originally posted by maltese" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>maltese wrote:</strong><br /><br />Discussed this with my karitane nurse this afternoon. She said exactly what you said Kels. In fact she was completely against safety sleeps as it does not allow a child to move around, which is natural when anyone sleeps (including babies). <BR><BR>Thanks everyone for your input!</td></tr></table> </P><P align=left>Glad to hear the karitane workers are putting out the same message. </P>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[tummy sleeping : Discussed this with my karitane...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18879">maltese</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21529<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 October 2008 at 9:17pm<br /><br />Discussed this with my karitane nurse this afternoon.  She said exactly what you said Kels.  In fact she was completely against safety sleeps as it does not allow a child to move around, which is natural when anyone sleeps (including babies).<br /><br />Thanks everyone for your input!]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[tummy sleeping : I feel the same Deborah, I was...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17511">Kels</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21529<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 October 2008 at 12:46pm<br /><br /><P align=left>I feel the same Deborah, I was forever getting up at random times at night and flipping Alize back to his back <IMG src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0">&nbsp;and it was unnecessary. </P>]]>
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   <pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 12:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[tummy sleeping :   Kels wrote:Once babies can...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17503">11111</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21529<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 15 October 2008 at 10:59pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Kels" alt="Originally posted by Kels" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Kels wrote:</strong><br /><br /><p align=left>Once babies can roll from back to front etc they are ok to sleep on their tums as this shows they have the strength to move about. I used to get up to flip Alize as I kept thinking about the back to sleep campagine until I attended a SIDS course for work and found out that once they can get to their tums themselves they are fine to stay there.  I thnk now it is up to personal choice with what you decide. </p></td></tr></table><br />Now why is it the ydon't tell parent's that cause I wish i had known that with Alan.]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[tummy sleeping : yeah definitly a personal choice...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18232">Shezamumof3</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21529<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 15 October 2008 at 9:16pm<br /><br />yeah definitly a personal choice<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />i feel happier knowing caden is on his back<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17511">Kels</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21529<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 15 October 2008 at 8:18pm<br /><br /><P align=left>Once babies can roll from back to front etc they are ok to sleep on their tums as this shows they have the strength to move about. I used to get up to flip Alize as I kept thinking about the back to sleep campagine until I attended a SIDS course for work and found out that once they can get to their tums themselves they are fine to stay there.&nbsp; I thnk now it is up to personal choice with what you decide. </P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18879">maltese</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21529<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 15 October 2008 at 7:11pm<br /><br />thanks guys...nice to hear from some experienced mums that I am not the only one with this issue.  My baby is the same regarding the screaming if we "forced" her to sleep on her back.  <br /><br />I agree with the comment that they are guidelines and you as parent have to decide what you will take from them.<br /><br />Thanks everyone!]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[tummy sleeping : Hi,  What I have found is that...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19780">mumtooboys</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21529<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 14 October 2008 at 9:39pm<br /><br />Hi,<br /><br />What I have found is that babies will find the position they are most comfortable in, and as long as you are happy to let them "get on with it" then do. <br /><br />DS2 has been a tummy sleeper since birth , his choice, not ours and our feelings about it where that we'd rather he (and us) had 2-3 hours of good quality sleep than him screaming the house down for hours on end (he did this once when we tried to "force" him to sleep on his back and then immediately went to sleep when placed on his tummy) and/or spend 10 minutes asleep and be crabby when he woke.<br /><br />At the end of the day, they are guidelines and as parents we have to decide what, if anything we will take from them.  DS1 was a "by the book" baby and we were all miserable........we've taken a very laid back, whatever works approach with DS2 and he is a "dream" baby and we are all the happier for it.<br /><br />So that's probably not helped, or answered your question....but wanted to put it out there anyway. <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 21:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[tummy sleeping : hey chick I think if you are happy...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17503">11111</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21529<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 14 October 2008 at 8:01pm<br /><br />hey chick I think if you are happy and comortable with it is fine.  I let my boy from about then for the same reason.  he is 2 now and still sleeps on tummy.]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[tummy sleeping : I would try a Safe T Sleep, we...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18232">Shezamumof3</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21529<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 14 October 2008 at 6:54pm<br /><br />I would try a Safe T Sleep, we got ours off trade Me for about $50. Its brillian, makes me feel very much at ease knowing he cant roll over.<br />Personally I wouldnt let Caden sleep on his tummy this young, because of SIDS etc.]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 18:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[tummy sleeping : Thanks for all your input.  I...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18879">maltese</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21529<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 14 October 2008 at 9:22am<br /><br />Thanks for all your input.  I have decided just to let her be.  As soon as I put her down she rolls over and goes straight to sleep.<br /><br />I didn't use a safety sleep as I know she would just scream and scream being "tied" down.  I did get one things that has two triangles to stop rolling....and she still managed to roll on the spot.]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[tummy sleeping :   potato wrote:I figure if they...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2583">busymum</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21529<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 08 October 2008 at 7:56pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by potato" alt="Originally posted by potato" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>potato wrote:</strong><br /><br />I figure if they are strong enough to get into that position, then they are strong enough to get out.</td></tr></table><br /><br />Kryssi was a persistent tummy sleeper. Anything else and she'd wake within 10 minutes of being put down! She used to lift her head a lot (in the very early weeks) when crying and fussing about it, so I figured she would be ok if I let her have her way on it. I checked her a lot though!<br /><br />If your baby has any kind of reflux issues, the tummy sleeping will be more comfortable because back sleeping stretches out the eosophagus straighter than tummy sleeping does. Kryssi didn't have reflux but perhaps she had a mild discomfort when sleeping that way, I don't know.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19554">sadie</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21529<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 08 October 2008 at 9:23am<br /><br />My little guy is the same - and I just let him sleep how he is most comfortable.  This started when we weaned him from the wrap at 7-8 months though, so older than your DD.<br /><br />The first night he did it, I virtually hovered over his cot all night, now I just let him sleep how he is most comfortable. I hate sleeping on my back too!<br /><br />I figure if they are strong enough to get into that position, then they are strong enough to get out. <br /><br />Not sure of the reasonings behind back sleeping for SIDS prevention, but 4 months is still fairly young. Have you a friend you could borrow a safety sleep from to try?]]>
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   <pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 09:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[tummy sleeping : As far as I know it&amp;#039;s overheating...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19119">Alanismum</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21529<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 08 October 2008 at 8:31am<br /><br />As far as I know it's overheating more than anything.  But I think they say once baby is strong enough to put herself into the position it's ok. Lots of my friends use a safety-sleep so baby can't roll over. That might be an option.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=564">lizzle</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21529<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 08 October 2008 at 8:30am<br /><br />Taine was the same and I ended up letting him sleep on his tummy.  Even now he sleeps on his stomach - bum in the air.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18879">maltese</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 21529<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 08 October 2008 at 7:55am<br /><br />My little girl learnt how to roll back to front about 2 weeks ago.  For the last week, when I put her down for a sleep she immediately rolls onto her tummy.  I roll her back and she immediately rolls back.  She will scream on her back and as soon as she is on her tummy the screaming will stop and she will start relaxing into sleep.  <br /><br />She sleeps in a gogo bag, but i have started putting a sheet across her tightly in an effort to restrict her movement so she can't roll. She hates this! Often I will let her go to sleep on her tummy and then come in 20 min later when she is in a deep sleep and flip her over.  This works but is not ideal at 4am!<br /><br />Really what I want to know is if anyone else had this problem and how you dealt with it? Also does anyone know specifically why back sleeping is recommended to avoid SIDs (ie is it suffocation, or pressing down on lungs etc)<br /><br /><br />]]>
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