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   <title><![CDATA[Moving to New Zealand! : Yep North Shore is great - Takapuna...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17802">Bobbie</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 March 2009 at 5:11pm<br /><br />Yep North Shore is great - Takapuna and the East Coast Bays is lovely. More pricey but you really get to experience the "Shore lifestyle" that way. Also the schools are really good along that belt generally.<br /><br />Congratulations on the pregnancy. I know it's one more thing to sort out but you will probably want to organise your LMC (lead maternity carer) over here as soon as possible as the baby boom means they're in high demand.]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Moving to New Zealand! : I live on the northshore and can...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17987">kabe</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 March 2009 at 2:07pm<br /><br />I live on the northshore and can definately recommend it! I agree with all the places mum2ella suggested. There are really good schools in those areas and you're nice and close to lots of shops, beaches and parks.]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Moving to New Zealand! : Hi, Don&amp;#039;t be put off by auctions...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17924">busyissy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 March 2009 at 1:59pm<br /><br />Hi,<br />Don't be put off by auctions it is a very popular way to sell your house in New Zealand as it is considered fast and efficient (not necessarily true but believed anyway).  Even if a house is advertised to be auctioned you can still approach the vendors with an offer probably best to go through an agent though. <br />All the best with your move and house hunting. And congratulations on your baby!]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Moving to New Zealand! : We live on the North Shore and...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18695">Mum2ET</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 March 2009 at 11:14am<br /><br /><P align=left>We live on the North Shore and love it<IMG src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0">&nbsp;Depending on your price range, I would definintely be looking either in the Milford/Takapuna area or around the east coast bays. Devonport area is also really nice. All these areas have good schools and are close to heaps of beaches/playgrounds. </P>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Moving to New Zealand! : Hi  I will try to answer your...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19557">BeLoved</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 March 2009 at 10:56am<br /><br />Hi<br /><br />I will try to answer your question without waffling too much.<br /><br />I think most house are up for auction at the moment in NZ as the market is not the best and vendors feels this is the best way to get the best price for their property, if you enquire with the agent selling the property you can sometimes get an idea of the price range. We have what are called mortgagee sales here is NZ when the house has to be sold as the owners can no longer pay the mortgage.<br /><br />I am from Auckland and I love living here. We do not live on the North Shore but it is lovely there and all the beaches are so nice especially the east coast bays such as Mairangi Bay, Castor Bay, Browns Bay etc. It would be a great place to raise kids, a lot of people who move to NZ choose the North Shore. We live in the Waitakeres which is more of a bush setting with great bush walks and rugged west coast beaches more suited to surfing than swimming and great for long walks in the summer and winter. The beauty of Auckland is that being so narrow you can drive from one coast to other in 30 minutes and enjoy all there is to offer without having to go far to see and enjoy it.<br /><br />All the best for your trip here in May.<br /><br /><br />]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Moving to New Zealand! : Hi again everyone,  Sorry I disappeared...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21588">Spring Sun</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 23 March 2009 at 5:32am<br /><br />Hi again everyone,<br /><br />Sorry I disappeared for awhile.  We have been busy and putting off the real plans on moving. But, we are sure now that we are moving to Auckland and have a few more questions if anyone has time to help.<br /><br />We are looking at houses.  We are going to rent for a few months to make sure we know what section we want to live in.  But we are looking at houses for sale to get an idea of prices/quality.  It seems most houses are for auction or negotiation.  <br /><br />In the US, every house has a listing price, but the house never sells for that amount.  Usually the owner and buyer go back and forth, and you can get the house for quite a bit less than the listing price.  <br /><br />If a house here is auctioned, it is bc the owners can't afford it anymore, and then you can usually get a great deal on it.<br /><br />Is it similar in NZ?<br /><br />We are thinking about the North Shore.  Does anyone have a preference on the best place to raise kids?<br /><br />Thank you!  I think we are coming out in May, I will be 6 months pregnant!  I am excited though.<br /><br />Thanks for your help!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21837">LadyLizard</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 February 2009 at 2:32pm<br /><br />PS- as far as I know you don't have to pay import tax on any household goods that are used and for personal use. If they are brand new or intended for other people you do.<br /><br />And as with any country there are some restrictions, and it is a real pain in the butt when your entire shipment is held up so MAF can open one of your boxes to have a look in it and then charge you an extra 50 bucks for the privilege!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21837">LadyLizard</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 February 2009 at 2:30pm<br /><br />HI,<br />Firstly, good luck with all your planning! You will enjoy your time in NZ, it sounds like you have the right mindset. You will love NZ, its beautiful and diverse, and the people are awesome. I have found everyone so friendly since we got back here.<br />I am sure you will be able to teach yoga! And yes, there are some awesome photography opportunities.<br /><br /> H and I moved back here from the UK last year and we wish we had brought more stuff back with us, as it was very expensive to kit our our house here, even taking transport costs into account.<br />And yes, it is a major hassle to have to buy everything again especially when you aren't familiar with the stores.<br />It is possible to do some of it on the cheap, and TradeMe is good, although sometimes its less hassle to just go to a cheap shop like the Warehouse! <br />AnnaK is right- there is less competition, so there aren't as many good quality, mid-range products.<br /><br />We have also found it ALOT more expensive living here than we did in the UK, and the UK is expensive to live.<br />We were both on good salaries there and are on very good salaries here, but we still find it expensive.<br />There may be reasons for that, such as we didn't have a car in the UK and we lived in a cheapish flat, but we have found food and petrol to be particularly expensive here, and bills aren't that cheap either.<br />I find decent clothes and shoes to be more expensive here than in the UK. Books are horrifically expensive here!<br /><br />NZ immigration is a funny one. Sometimes they seem to let any old person in, and other times they are really tough.<br />Having skills doesn't automatically help you qualify, particularly if you aren't planning on using those skills, although a degree helps, as does being under a certain age.<br /><br />Also, if you are earning a US salary while you are living here, I would look into the legitimacy of that, because technically you will still be working and earning an income, and if there is one thing you don't want its to get on the wrong side of NZ Immigration. <br />You mentioned that you would have a visitor visa, I think there is a limit of 90 days on a visitor visa, and anything else you would have to apply for- I think you can extend them, but you can't work on a visitor visa, even to teach yoga. <br />Although having said that, if your H is on a student visa I think you can get a spousal visa on that basis alone. Not 100% sure, but its worth checking it out.<br />Hiring an immigration consultant is an excellent idea, as they would be able to advise you on that sort of thing.<br /><br />It sounds like you have decided where you want to live, I lived in Christchurch and have some friends with young children there and they love it- I found it beautiful and great for outdoor activities, but Auckland is pretty good too, it just takes longer to get anywhere!<br /><br /><br />Sorry if this post sounds negative, i just know how frustrating it can be moving to another country if you skim over the small print and legalities.<span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by Lady Lizard</span>]]>
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   <pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 14:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19552">scribe</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 February 2009 at 2:09pm<br /><br />Sorry, I haven't read the whole six pages in this thread - just commenting on the last couple of posts. You won't have to pay any duties if you have lived outside NZ for 21 months and have used the goods - so as long as you don't import anything wrapped in its original packaging you should be ok.<a href="http://www.customs.govt.nz/travellers/Household+Effects/When+No+Customs+Charges+Apply.htm" target="_blank">Link</a><br /><br />Also, don't bring a vacuum cleaner - we gave ours a good clean, but of course they still wanted to inspect it so I think it cost $200, from memory, to open the box - I hope it goes for a long time, it was an expensive vacuum cleaner!<br /><br />But I would definitely get a moving crate and bring things over, especially if you are going to be here for a while. <br /><br />We moved back to NZ from the UK last year and brought as much as we could back with us, as we found furniture etc a lot cheaper to buy over there, possibly because there is more competition. <br /><br />I'm not too sure about the US but we bought our SLR camera and a laptop when we were travelling through the States, as electronics seemed to be a lot cheaper. However, that was in mid-2007, when the NZ dollar was worth about 3/4 of a Greenback - now it's around half, so obviously that makes a big difference. I imagine imported goods here will soon start going up, to reflect the drop in the NZ dollar.<br /><br />Plus, speaking as someone who has moved and set up house several times, it is a major hassle having to buy everything again - it's all the little things that add up, especially with little children...]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=20865">ClareB</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 February 2009 at 1:23pm<br /><br />Make sure to do research on what taxes you may have to pay to import house hold goods, I've heard some stories.  We were residents when we brought all of our things in and that helped.  I find the cost of everything to be higher than in the states and the comment about Trade me is true buyer beware we got a cheap fridge that ended up as anything but!! Oh Well  ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17802">Bobbie</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 22 January 2009 at 5:16pm<br /><br />heehee yep buggered is a good one. You'll probably be using that a fair bit in the first few months as you get settled. <br /><br /><img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19163">McPloppy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 22 January 2009 at 4:27pm<br /><br />LOL, pooped, buggered, knackered, stuffed.....]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Moving to New Zealand! : Thanks so much-those site were...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21588">Spring Sun</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 22 January 2009 at 4:00pm<br /><br />Thanks so much-those site were really helpful.  It looks like a lot of items are the same price and some are 1/2 what they are here. The biggest thing is the rent or mortgage, so if that is 1/2 then that is good. <br /><br />As for incomes, the average here is US$45,000 (I had to look that up:) We'll both be keeping our US incomes.  I won't have a visa to work and dh will only be able to work in NZ part time while going to school. This is the only way he could swing doing a phd with two little ones.  <br /><br />I think it makes more sense to get a moving crate.  That way, we can bring all the little things too that we would otherwise throw out.  <br /><br />I am pooped out from all this research (I hope you guys have that saying!)  It was so exciting for the first 100 hours and now I am just wearing myself out with it.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=20418">Hopes</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 22 January 2009 at 2:02pm<br /><br />I haven't lived in the US either, but am happy to help price things out, if you want. If there's any big things you want ideas on, chuck them at us, and I'm sure someone will be able to give you a pretty accurate estimate. <br /><br />TradeMe is great, but as has been mentioned, is mostly second hand. Your $40 fridge would probably be pretty old and scody. <br /><br />If you want to get an idea of prices for new items, these websites might help:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.noelleeming.co.nz" target="_blank">Noel Leeming (appliances etc)</a><br /><br /><a href="http://www.bigsave.co.nz/home.asp" target="_blank">Big Save (furniture etc)</a><br /><br /><a href="http://www.farmers.co.nz/" target="_blank">Farmers (general homewares - also has furniture and appliances)</a><br /><br /><a href="http://www.briscoes.co.nz/" target="_blank">Briscoes (homewares)</a><br /><br /><a href="https://www.woolworths.co.nz/HomeShopping/default.aspx" target="_blank">Woolworths (groceries)</a><br /><br />Hope they're useful - I've chosen ones that seem to have prices online, so you can get an idea of what things cost. ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19663">Emily281</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 22 January 2009 at 1:03pm<br /><br />HI Springsun<br />I haven't lived in the US but there are a couple of things to remember. Firstly most of the stuff on Trademe is 2nd hand stuff which is why it is so cheap. A new fridge would be around US$450-$600 and a dining suite would be around US$300-$500.<br /><br />Also remember to take into account the difference in income levels. I don't know what the average US wage is, but here it is around US$25000.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21588">Spring Sun</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 22 January 2009 at 12:50pm<br /><br />Can I ask another question that is really frustrating me and I can't seem to find the answer to?  I keep hearing very different things.<br /><br />So, to us, it seems much cheaper to live in NZ.  Houses, rent, food, everything seems to be almost half the price as it is in the states.  <br /><br />But, a lot of people online seem to be talking about how we should bring as much stuff as we can, because it is much more expensive to buy it in NZ.<br /><br />I went to trademe.com, and it looks like a fridge is US$40-$150.  This could not be right, that is way too cheap.  There were full dining room sets on there for $20.  <br /><br />So what am I missing?  If you have lived in the states or know the prices there, what important things are more expensive or less?  Should we even getting a shipping container?<br /><br />You all have been so helpful with all this, thanks again.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19132">HippyMama</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 January 2009 at 11:20pm<br /><br />I think there is another one in Glenfield / Wairau area too, on the North Shore... a special needs school that is! I will have to actually look at the signs next time I drive past though as I can't rememer the name right now <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley9.gif" border="0">]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17802">Bobbie</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 January 2009 at 10:59pm<br /><br />There's a special needs school in Takapuna on the North Shore.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.wils&#111;n.school.nz/welcome.php" target="_blank">Wilson Home</a><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by Bobbie</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18078">caliandjack</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 January 2009 at 9:43pm<br /><br />I'm not sure if your DH works with adults or children, he should check out Carlson School in Mt Roskill or Homai School out Howick way, they're both fully catering to children with special needs.  - I guess work wise Auckland does have the most opportunities, and places like the north shore and rodney are quite laid back with beaches close by.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=20865">ClareB</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 20 January 2009 at 9:02pm<br /><br />my Hb and I moved to Auckland from Florida five years ago and will soon be moving to Christchurch(HB can't wait for ski season lol) it was quite a change but worth it! The first year was the hardest with all the rain in the winter.  There is lots to do in Auckland though the coment about people not wanting to drive for a visit can be true,  Good luck with the move and studys ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17802">Bobbie</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 January 2009 at 7:45pm<br /><br />Yay how exciting Stacey!<br /><br />Yeah I didn't think you'd think the peak hour traffic was bad - that's why I linked you to the cams. ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10366">susieq</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 January 2009 at 6:36pm<br /><br />As a mother of a special needs adult/ with a developmental age of 6 or so and some autistic traits yes he would be snapped up]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21588">Spring Sun</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 January 2009 at 6:11pm<br /><br />Well, dh decided the program in CHCH is probably not the one he wants.  Shoot, I was really starting to like the idea.  I told him I would rather live in Auckland than in Hamilton, so we'll see. <br /><br />I just checked out the traffic cams in Auckland during rush hour.  It was not sooo bad.  If you get a chance to check out Atlanta during rush hour, or any other time during the day for that matter, here is the link.  It doesn't even move.  <a href="http://www.georgia-navigator.com/cameras" target="_blank">Atlanta traffic</a><br /><br />I am glad about the yoga, that is good.  <br /><br />We are thinking about hiring an immigration consultant.  Might be easier and less expensive than figuring everything out ourselves.  <br /><br />Can't wait to visit!  We just have to wait to hear back a few things from the schools and make sure the immigration consultant does not find anything obvious that would make it so that we could not live there, and then we'll buy our tickets!  ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18078">caliandjack</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 January 2009 at 10:30am<br /><br />Hi Spring Sun, I work in the Assistive Technology industry, and there is demand for that type of work here, mostly through the Ministry of Education, and various agencies that work with children with special needs. Mostly they're occupational therapists and teachers, I'm sure your husband wouldn't have any trouble finding employment afterwards, I expect he'd be snapped up.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19663">Emily281</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 19 January 2009 at 9:06am<br /><br />There are a few Yoga places in Christchurch, and most of the gyms also offer yoga classes so I don't think you'll have any problems.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10235">caitlynsmygirl</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 18 January 2009 at 10:33pm<br /><br />I haven't read all the replies ,so apologies in advance <br /><br />Auckland I love, born and bred Jafa, not keen on the actual city, as in the city CENTRE, but love Howick, where I live and all its history and little traditions, love Maraetai and Beachlands too, they are gorgeous.<br /><br />Christchurch , i haven't been to, but I really want to , Ive seen photos tho, thats one place I would consider moving to if we moved from Auckland <br /><br />Hamilton ,I have no problems with it either.<br /><br />Im pretty biased and think our little country is lovely whereever you are <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />welcome to OB ,and goodluck with the move ! ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=16223">my2angels</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 18 January 2009 at 8:45pm<br /><br />yeah i can think of at least 5 yoga places off the top of my head so i wouldnt worry about that. you can always look up www.yellowpages.co.nz , that will list business' for you, its our business directory but remember not everyone advertises in it so its not everyone<span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by my2angels</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=20735">lisa85</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 18 January 2009 at 7:56pm<br /><br />I have a few friends that are into yogo. Since having the girls I keep meaning to sign up and join them but has been so hard to find time with 2 babies <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley6.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />They're getting older now though and I have much more me time so count me in on yoga classes <br /><img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley10.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=20418">Hopes</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 18 January 2009 at 7:31pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Spring Sun" alt="Originally posted by Spring Sun" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Spring Sun wrote:</strong><br /><br />The one thing that is different is that here you almost never have to pay tuition, you just teach undergrad classes, but here he has to pay a ton of money.</td></tr></table><br /><br />I'm just running out the door, but just wanted to make one quick comment - there might be scholarships he can apply for to help him with his studies. In NZ, most awards tend to be for NZ citizens or permanant residents, but there's still funding out there for international students. Especially PhD students. <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />Also, as a PhD student I believe he might be likely to qualify for tuition fees at domestic rates - you probably already know that, but if you didn't it could change your calculations a bit! ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21588">Spring Sun</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 18 January 2009 at 7:24pm<br /><br />Thanks again for all the info, this is so wonderful.<br /><br />He already has a masters degree (3 years of post BA studies) in his field and is certified as a behaviour analyst.  He just wants the credential for what he aims to do in his field.  I wonder, though, how much of a need there is for a behaviour analyst in NZ for when school is over if we want to stay?  He works with developmental disabilities and autistic children and adults.<br /><br />He can get into programs here, but with two children and all our expenses he could not afford to take that many years off work. We can make it work in NZ, though.  <br /><br />I also have a postgraduate degree so could find skilled work, but don't want to do that.  I started a business 4 years ago and am planning on running it remotely, but could create a branch in NZ, which would also qualify us.  So, I *hope* we have our bases covered.  We'll find out for sure next week and that is just one of the things that makes me nervous.  It feels like there is something we are overlooking.<br /><br />The one thing that is different is that here you almost never have to pay tuition, you just teach undergrad classes, but here he has to pay a ton of money.  \<br /><br />Also, does anyone know if yoga is not a big thing there?  In Boulder there are probably 20 yoga studios, but I could only find a few online for CHCH.  It is something I love to do and hope to find it out there, too.<br /><br />Overall, I know that we have no idea what we are getting ourselves into.  But I can do anything for three years.  And everything we have read and heard sounds so wonderful. I think we won't really have an idea until we visit.  And even then we won't have a true idea until we are there.  But it looks like it will be great.  ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=20418">Hopes</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 18 January 2009 at 5:45pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Spring Sun" alt="Originally posted by Spring Sun" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Spring Sun wrote:</strong><br /><br />I feel like there has to be something that we are overlooking.  Something that will make it so that we can't go.  Dh will have a student visa so my son and I should have no trouble getting visitor visa, right?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;It is just three years, and we both have skilled trades so after that I couldn't imagine it being hard to stay.  Can you guys think of anything?<br /></td></tr></table><br /><br />Oh - and it's not unusual at all for a PhD here to take more than three years. While some people do complete in three, the majority take about four. I'm guessing that the fact that you're working off a figure of three years means you've done some planning and he's confident he'll finish in that time, though - and like I said, it's quite possible, just not the norm here. <span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by Hopes</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=20418">Hopes</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 18 January 2009 at 5:41pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Spring Sun" alt="Originally posted by Spring Sun" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Spring Sun wrote:</strong><br /><br />I feel like there has to be something that we are overlooking.  Something that will make it so that we can't go.  Dh will have a student visa so my son and I should have no trouble getting visitor visa, right?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;It is just three years, and we both have skilled trades so after that I couldn't imagine it being hard to stay.  Can you guys think of anything?<br /></td></tr></table><br /><br />Well, how much planning has your DH done for his studies? Sorry if you've mentioned and I've missed it, but it doesn't sound like he's made arrangements to enrol in a University quite yet? Enroling in a PhD takes a little bit of time, and he'll have to choose where he wants to study, find supervisors and define a research topic etc etc before he can enrol. I guess you'll be looking into this on your visit?<br /><br />At the same time, if he's eligible to enrol in a PhD in the states, and has good grades for his previous study, I can't imagine he'll have too many problems. Most Universities are dead keen for more good PhD candidates, so they'll help him as much as they can.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18554">myfullhouse</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 18 January 2009 at 11:33am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Spring Sun" alt="Originally posted by Spring Sun" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Spring Sun wrote:</strong><br /><br />We are going to rent out our house when we move so that we can keep it.  It is not the time at all to sell a house in the US.  We both lease cars, and that will be the hardest thing.  And then getting rid of all our stuff will be hard.  Really, we should just bring a few needed things and rent or buy new things when we get there, right? Is the baby stuff less expensive there?</td></tr></table><br /><br />I suppose it depends on what you want to bring with you. You could get some quotes from international moving companies to have your furniture shipped over here. If you are planning to stay on then it may be worth it. <br /><br />We have friends from the UK that moved here about 3+ yrs back. They bought alot of their furniture from <a href="http://www.trademe.co.nz/" target="_blank">Trade Me</a> which is an online trading/selling website. You can often get some bargins but it pays to know the approx price for the item brand new so you don't get stung]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19163">McPloppy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 January 2009 at 7:46pm<br /><br />LOL about the traffic.  i still find myself heading out the door and hour befor I need to be somewhere and finding I have 45 mins to spare from living in Auckland.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19163">McPloppy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 January 2009 at 7:43pm<br /><br />DH sycles to work every day and a lot more people are doing so or car pooling due to "the economic crisis"<br />CHCH is easier to bike around due to it being flat unless that is you live on the hills lol.<br />Are you thinking of childcare as there is usually a long waiting list to get children in and you will also need to be looking at schools.  I have done all this with my almost 4 year old and it is such a stressfull thing to do for your first born.<br />When some of our family went overseas to work they sold their house and put their belongings into storage...Would storage be and option for you, it would be a shame to sell everything. <br /><br />If you are renting to start off with you could rent a sef contained house untill you get yourselves soted.<br />Not sure about prices for things.  DH is forever telling me the states is so much cheeper than here (He used to live in Conneticut and would live there if he could).<br />Good luck again with your choice.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=20735">lisa85</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 January 2009 at 7:40pm<br /><br />Yeah I lived in Brisbane for 10 months. On my first day at a new job I checked google to see how long it would take me to get there. It was a 25min drive. It took me 2 hours!!!! I was so late lol! It made me really appreciate traffic here. It doesn't normally take any more than 20 minutes to get anywhere. ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=16223">my2angels</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 January 2009 at 7:37pm<br /><br />When your actually living in it you dont notice any pollution, and ive never ever heard of anyone coughing up soot from running in chch, I run here every day (well in theory but ok so maybe every second day <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> ) and its fine. That makes us sound like hong kong or where ever it is that where the masks cos they cant walk around breathing the air....it soooooo isnt like that.<br />Our rush hour traffic in chch would be 7.30-9.30am and 4-6pm I think and even then its not anything like auckland or overseas. Our rush hour is say a 15minute trip taking 30-45minutes, i have a friend in Brisbane who has a 1.5hr drive home which on the weekend takes her half an hour]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17979">MummyFreckle</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 January 2009 at 7:35pm<br /><br />I have quite bad asthma and I am NEVER bothered by the pollution in Auckland. I have never noticed it either and I used to work in the heart of the city. ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=20735">lisa85</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 January 2009 at 7:27pm<br /><br />Its great that you guys get to come over for a couple of weeks first because no matter what anyone here tells you, only you two can decide which city fits you best. All of your choices have great pros and I'm sure will feel like home in no time.<br />Auckland and Christchurch are both fantastic but very different citys will be fun to see which one fits you best.<br /><br />BTW lol at the NZ boyfriend <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0">  Hamish is such a kiwi lads name!<br />]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19663">Emily281</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 January 2009 at 6:47pm<br /><br />I really don't find the pollution that bad. ALOT of people in CHCH bike - I swear half our office does. And there are alot of cycle lanes in and around the city. For recreational biking there are quite a few tracks around - especially around the Port Hills.<br /><br />ETA: The reason you're probably not seeing much traffic is that its the weekend here. I would suggest having a look around noon Sunday your time which will be 8:00am Monday our time.<span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by Emily281</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21588">Spring Sun</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 January 2009 at 6:39pm<br /><br />Oh, that is not good.  Is it really that polluted?  I thought it would be much better than here.  Do people bike and walk much?<br /><br />I checked out that traffic link-thanks!  But everytime I check it there is almost not traffic at all.  When is rush hour for you?  Our rush hour is 4-7pm.  <br /><br />Thanks for all the other links, too.  I have been spending a lot of time looking at them.  <br /><br />I feel like there has to be something that we are overlooking.  Something that will make it so that we can't go.  Dh will have a student visa so my son and I should have no trouble getting visitor visa, right?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;It is just three years, and we both have skilled trades so after that I couldn't imagine it being hard to stay.  Can you guys think of anything?<br /><br />We have been busy planning.  I can find flights for about $1000USD each.  People must never go to the states, the plane costs too much!  I did have a NZ boyfriend, though in the 4th grade.  Hamish...<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />I think we'll try to come in March-April at the latest depending on when his interviews are.  I just don't want to fly that long when I am really pregnant.  The 2nd trimester is best.<br /><br />We have to leave our 4 year old for the first time with my parents.  He will love it but it will be really hard for me.  <br /><br />We are going to rent out our house when we move so that we can keep it.  It is not the time at all to sell a house in the US.  We both lease cars, and that will be the hardest thing.  And then getting rid of all our stuff will be hard.  Really, we should just bring a few needed things and rent or buy new things when we get there, right? Is the baby stuff less expensive there?<br /><br />I know a million things will come up.  It is so much to think about.  I hope the trip feels more like a vacation.  We need it.<br /><br />Also, are there any good novels that take place in Auckland or CHCH?  It would help me to get a better feel for the places.  <br /><br />Thanks again, I am loving all this info and conversation!<br /><br />]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19163">McPloppy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 January 2009 at 5:52pm<br /><br />Ew no not the coughing up soot thing just that there is smog]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17802">Bobbie</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 January 2009 at 5:33pm<br /><br />Eww that's gross - I kind of wish I didn't know that now <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley11.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />Just back because I thought of another handy link.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.stats.govt.nz/census/default.htm" target="_blank">Census Information</a>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19163">McPloppy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 January 2009 at 4:22pm<br /><br />I did not notice it last winter too much...It was my first winter back after being in Auckland for three years but you are right it used to be quite bad.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18010">Glow</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 January 2009 at 3:46pm<br /><br />Yes Chch has often exceeded WHO air pollution standards in winter, but they have funding available for home heating & have banned the use of open fires & woodburners older than 15yrs<br /><br />Aucklands however, 80% of air pollution is from car emmissions. Carbon monoxide levels are higher in the region than say London<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0"> Every year Auckland cars travel about 8 thousand million KMs which produces 500 tonnes of toxins PER DAY]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17802">Bobbie</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 January 2009 at 3:15pm<br /><br />But air pollution is bad in CHC in winter isn't it? Because there isn't any wind to carry away the smoke from fires and the exhaust. I have a friend who says after she goes jogging in CHC in winter she coughs up black soot <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley11.gif" border="0"> <br /><br /><a href="http://www.nzherald.co.nz/otago/news/article.cfm?l_id=141&&#111;bjectid=10546554" target="_blank">this</a> is quite interesting (well page 2 is) but it is based mainly on housing.<span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by Bobbie</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18010">Glow</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 January 2009 at 12:34pm<br /><br /><a href="http://www.nz-immigrati&#111;n.co.nz/pre-arrival-pack.html" target="_blank">NZ immigration</a> will more than likely be an invaluable resourse to you<br /><br />Now Im being impartial<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0"> In my former life I was a travel & tourism consultant, specializing in visitor info<br />Christchurch- The city is close but far away<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> Its only a few metres above sea level. With a popualtion of 360,000 its the largest city in the south & has over half the sth Island poulation living there. Cons- Boring Canterbury plains-intensive dairy farming. High youth popualtion with lots of teen pregnancies. <br />In a nutshell- the highest peaks, the most striking water colours & fanatastic tussock landscapes<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley10.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />Auckland- the largest & most populated area in the country. With the largest Polynesian population in the world (More Nuieans live in Auckland than in Nuie) It lies on a narrow isthmus no more than 2mtre wide at the norrowest point & is one of only few cities in the world with harbours on two seperate waters. There are approx 50 volcanic vents around the area which are doormant. <br />Cons- traffic porblems, lack of good public transport, housing, air pollution & crime are the strongest negative factors to living there<br />In a nutshell- mild climate, plentiful employment & eduactional opportunities as well as lesiure<br />]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=20418">Hopes</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 January 2009 at 12:32pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Linzy" alt="Originally posted by Linzy" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Linzy wrote:</strong><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Spring Sun" alt="Originally posted by Spring Sun" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Spring Sun wrote:</strong><br /><br />Also, if my husband and I (no little one) are coming to visit for just 2 weeks, then would we take a plane from Auckland to CHCH?</td></tr></table><br /><br />It depends on how much time you have. If you don't have much time you would be best to fly. If you have extra time you could drive (allow at least 2 days) or you could take the train and ferry and possibly spend up to a day in Wellington on your way through<br /><br /><a href="http://timetable.railnewzealand.com/" target="_blank">Rail timetable and costs</a><br /><a href="http://www.railnewzealand.com/trains/" target="_blank">Long Distance train info</a><br /><br />Taking the train wouldn't be as stressful as driving but you could still see the country as you go</td></tr></table><br /><br />I second (or third?) the idea of driving and taking the ferry, if you have the time. It's a really nice trip, and a great way to see the country. I'd probably actually prefer to drive than take the train, but either's a good option.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=20735">lisa85</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 January 2009 at 12:24pm<br /><br /><strong>Jack_&_Charli Wrote - </strong><br />yes auckland do get most of the cool concerts, but it's only a short plane ride from chch...........and at least we got bon jovi all to ourselves <br /><br />Depends what music your into. I love the music scene in Chch although I know its not to everyones tastes DH and I are into Drum & Bass, Jazz, Dubstep, Break beat, Reggae, New Zealand roots music and live local bands which are all huge in CHCH if your going to the right places. We don't get so many of the big international names but we have awesome local talent and a very funky nightlife. <br />]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18554">myfullhouse</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 January 2009 at 12:13pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Spring Sun" alt="Originally posted by Spring Sun" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Spring Sun wrote:</strong><br /><br />Also, if my husband and I (no little one) are coming to visit for just 2 weeks, then would we take a plane from Auckland to CHCH?</td></tr></table><br /><br />It depends on how much time you have. If you don't have much time you would be best to fly. If you have extra time you could drive (allow at least 2 days) or you could take the train and ferry and possibly spend up to a day in Wellington on your way through<br /><br /><a href="http://timetable.railnewzealand.com/" target="_blank">Rail timetable and costs</a><br /><a href="http://www.railnewzealand.com/trains/" target="_blank">Long Distance train info</a><br /><br />Taking the train wouldn't be as stressful as driving but you could still see the country as you go<span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by Linzy</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17802">Bobbie</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 January 2009 at 10:11am<br /><br />If you want to do landscape photography as well I would definitely go Christchurch. Auckland is great in its own way but can't compare to the South Island IMHO.<br /><br />The houses here will shock you in terms of heating. Although heat pumps etc work well and the modern ones are built to a high standard, in the old villas especially heating really was an afterthought. This is much truer in Auckland than in Christchurch I would guess. But certainly throughout NZ you do not generally wear a light layer within the house and a cooler layer outside as you do in the much better heated homes in the U.S. This also applies in lots of shops and cafes. <br /><br />If you'd like to check out Auckland traffic real time try here<a href="http://traffic.transit.govt.nz/Traffic.do?view=cctv" target="_blank">linky</a><br /><br />Trade Me is great for houses and for everything you can think of really.<br /><br />Also there's <a href="http://www.wheretoliveinauckland.co.nz/" target="_blank">this great book</a> for Auckland which gives you information about each suburb - ethnic/socio-economic, schools, best and worst streets, average house prices, rental prices, facilities in the area, etc.<br /><br />And I just found <a href="http://www.movet&#111;nz.org/" target="_blank">this site for people moving to NZ </a> while looking for the above one lol!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=993">jack_&_charli</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 January 2009 at 9:38am<br /><br />just checked out your link for boulder.........what a gorgeous place!!!!!!&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br /><br />you'd definately love the south island<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=993">jack_&_charli</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 January 2009 at 9:25am<br /><br />just read through everyone's replies and everything i was going to say has been covered.......<br /><br />i especially agree with everything lisa has said........GO CHRISTCHURCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley10.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley10.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley10.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley10.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley10.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;(the people are lovely<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> )<br /><br />yes it does get cold in winter, but not that bad.  only rarely do the temps get in the -'s and if it does, it's not by much.  we do have heating in houses...mostly.  some don't and people use heaters like gas or oil.  we got a heatpump last year and now i don't know what we ever did without it!!&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;it's been VERY useful this last month with the HOT HOT weather we've been having!<br /><br />auckland is really not my cup of tea.  been there a few times and it's just too 'busy' for me.  <br /><br />another place i love is nelson...a very outdoor place, beautiful scenery all around and so much to do.  i lived there for half my life and really miss it sometimes.  it's very easy to get to for a summer holiday when you live in chch<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br /><br />yes auckland do get most of the cool concerts, but it's only a short plane ride from chch...........and at least we got bon jovi all to ourselves<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley10.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley10.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />yay for choosing nz to live!!!!!!!!&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;it's a beautiful country and i certainly couldn't imagine ever wanting to live anywhere else<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley14.gif" border="0">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br /><br />do let us know when you'll be coming over, we can all get together and have a coffee<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0"> <span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by jack_&_charli</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18010">Glow</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 January 2009 at 9:09am<br /><br />Hey Spring Sun, still trying to sway you the Waikato way<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />Boulder looks stunning<br /><br />Is it the lack of population that you dislike in the Waikato?<br />IMO bigger cities have very little community spirit, the smaller, the better. Its not till you reach the smaller towns that you will feel the true friendly Kiwi way<br />Hamilton has a popualtion of 190,000 odd. Over half of NZ popualtion is within a 80mile radius of Hamilton<br />You will find the Waikato has everything you need & more<br /><br />More info here<br /> <a href="http://www.visithamilt&#111;n.co.nz" target="_blank">Tourism Waikato</a><br />& scenery photos here<br /><a href="http://www.new-zealand-pictures.co.nz/waikato-pictures-cat.htm" target="_blank">Waikato Pictures</a><br /><br />Regardless of population, scenery in the Waikato is perfect for photography, throughout the region you will discover bush-clad mountains, stunning waterfalls, hot mineral pools, beaches and, of course, the magical limestone glowworm caves in Waitomo. If you travel off the beaten track you will find more memorable views and experiences. Charming small towns are dotted throughout the region, each one with its own specialities. (IE Otorohanga is the Kiwiana Capital of the world, Te Kuiti is Shearing Capital & of course you will find HOBBITON here in the Waikato)]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=20735">lisa85</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 January 2009 at 9:00am<br /><br />Oh and all most all propertys will have some kind of heating I always look for a place with a heat pump its a must with a newborn baby in winter. Most places these days have them <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=20735">lisa85</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 January 2009 at 8:59am<br /><br />This probably has the most up date list of rental propertys. Gotta love trademe!<br /><br /><a href="http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Property/Default.aspx" target="_blank">Real estate</a><br /><br />This would be the second most up to date site.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.realestate.co.nz/" target="_blank">Real estate 2</a>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4613">Jennz</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 January 2009 at 8:47am<br /><br />I have lived in Auckland, Hamilton and Wellington and out of all of them I found Wellington the best <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0">  Most laid back, easy to fit in and friendliest city of the 3 in my opinion.<br /><br />People and lifestyle wise Wellington was my top, job opportunity and weather wise Auckland was best and I loved being a student in Hamilton but would never want to raise kids there. <br /><br />If Wellington isn't an option then out of your 3 I would go Christchurch <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0">  Just buy a heatpump/air conditioner and you'll be fine!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17772">minik8e</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 January 2009 at 7:53am<br /><br />I have only ever lived in Taranaki and Hamilton...but have visited Auckland and Christchurch.  I don't mind Auckland, but it's such a big city that it really isn't for me - fantastic range of shops, cafes, etc.<br /><br />Hamilton - it does have a reputation as a student city, because of the Uni.  I lived there for about 5 years all up, and I didn't mind it....but I didn't love it either.  I lived both in town, and also rurally.  As someone else has said, the shopping is getting better.<br /><br />Christchurch - I love it.  It's gorgeous, there's trees everywhere, the sky seems clearer and more vivid than it does in the North Island, you can go over to the Alps, Central Otago is gorgeous - to me, it's a more "established" city.  Yep, it can be cold in Winter (but not as cold as what you've described!!) but can be very warm in summer!!  You're close to mountains, sea, shops, everything.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19163">McPloppy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 January 2009 at 7:51am<br /><br />There is a regulation now on all ne houses built that they must have double galzed windows and energy efficient heating so you will find eith a heatpump, log burner fireplace or gas fire place in the new houses....personaly I would go for one of those.<br />You can drive from Auckland to Christchurch  and i think it would be nice to see the rest of NZ (like Hamilton) along the way...It will take two to thre days for a leisurly trip.<br />In winter we normaly have a frost on the ground every day for a bout two to three months and if we are lucky it might snow twice which will result in just a bit of ground cover....that is when it is nice to go to hamner and indulge in the thermal springs <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />You can hire cars at both Akl and CHCH airports.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.christchurchairport.co.nz/TravellersAndServices/ParkingAndTransport/CarRentals/" target="_blank">Car rentals</a><br /><br /><a href="http://www.realestate.co.nz/" target="_blank">real estate</a><br /><br />Sorry i don'rt know much about home swap.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19663">Emily281</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 January 2009 at 7:44am<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Spring Sun" alt="Originally posted by Spring Sun" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Spring Sun wrote:</strong><br /><br />Thanks for all the links!<br /><br />But, is it really true that most houses don't have heat?  It is hard to believe! <br /><font color="blue">No its not ture. We have a fire and a heat pump. Although the regional council is trying to get people to get rid of fires. I think what will be different for you is that most places don't have central heating.</font><br /><br />Also, in Atlanta it took 20 minutes to get some place that was a mile away.  Since everything is relative, I wonder if the traffic in Auckland just seems bad to all of you, and maybe it is not as bad as it is in the US?  Do most families there have 1 or 2 cars? <br /><font color="blue">I can't comment on Auckland traffic. as for how many cars I think it depends on your situation. We have 2 cars and most families I know have 2 cars, but I think it depends on your lifestyle and budget. If, for example your DH lived within walking distance of the university you might not need 2 cars.</font><br /><br />Also, if my husband and I (no little one) are coming to visit for just 2 weeks, then would we take a plane from Auckland to CHCH? <br /><font color="blue">Yes you can take a plane from Auckland to christchurch. Links to NZ airlines:</font><br /><a href="http://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/" target="_blank">Air New Zealand</a><br /><a href="http://www.flypacificblue.com/" target="_blank">Pacific Blue</a><br /><a href="http://www.quantas.co.nz" target="_blank">Qantas</a><br /><br /><br />But, I can not wait to start doing photography there!  Boulder is great, but NZ is just breathtaking. <br /><font color="blue">Probably just me being biased again but if you're into photography CHCH will be great for you. Anyone I know who has ever visited has said they much preferred the South Island over the North Island because mostly its more beautiful. We certainly do have some breathtaking scenery.</font><br /><br />Could anyone give me a link on where to look for rentals so we can get an idea of a price?  <br /><a href="http://www.realestate.co.nz/rental" target="_blank">Real Estate NZ</a><br /><br /> Is there a website for housing swaps? <br /><font color="blue">I've never looked into house swaps so I don't have any personal experience but when I googled House Swap New Zealand it came up with a few sites so if no one has any suggestions that might be a good place to start</font><br /><br /> Jobs?  <br /><a href="http://www.seek.co.nz" target="_blank">Seek</a><br /><br />A good real estate website? <br /><a href="http://www.realestate.co.nz" target="_blank">Real Estate NZ</a><br /><br />Thanks for all the help, I really appreciate all of you taking the time to help me out:)</td></tr></table><br /><br />Just answering the rest of the questions that I forgot <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19663">Emily281</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 January 2009 at 7:30am<br /><br />HI<br />We do get snow in Chch - but we certianly don't get -50 (which bTW is -56 in celsius - theres a realy good converter <a href="http://www.wbuf.noaa.gov/tempfc.htm" target="_blank">Here</a>)!! Most often if it snows (it doesn't every year) it's only for a day or two. <a href="http://www.emigratenz.org/christchurch-climate.html" target="_blank">Here</a> is a link that tells you a little bit about Christchurch climate and shows average temperatures. BTW it says CHCH has similar temperatures to Boston.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21588">Spring Sun</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 January 2009 at 7:07am<br /><br />Thanks for all the links!<br /><br />Wow, this is hard to decide.  I keep hearing something that will sway me to one city, and then I read something else that makes me think the other city will be better.<br /><br />How cold is CHCH really?  Chicago is bitter cold.  So cold you don't even want to walk to your car.  There we get a -70 degree F wind chills (sorry, don't know Celsius yet!).  I looked up the weather in CHCH, and it looks like it doesn't really get that cold.  You guys get frost sometimes, but never snow, right?  If that is what is cold to you, bring it on!<br /><br />But, is it really true that most houses don't have heat?  It is hard to believe! <br /><br />Also, in Atlanta it took 20 minutes to get some place that was a mile away.  Since everything is relative, I wonder if the traffic in Auckland just seems bad to all of you, and maybe it is not as bad as it is in the US?  Do most families there have 1 or 2 cars? <br /><br />Also, if my husband and I (no little one) are coming to visit for just 2 weeks, then would we take a plane from Auckland to CHCH? <br /><br />Ahh, I am so nervous about the whole thing!  It is hard to not have any idea of where to live, especially when it is so far away! <br /><br />But, I can not wait to start doing photography there!  Boulder is great, but NZ is just breathtaking. <br /><br />Could anyone give me a link on where to look for rentals so we can get an idea of a price?  Craigslist is not very active there.  Is there a website for housing swaps?  Jobs?  A good real estate website? <br /><br />Thanks for all the help, I really appreciate all of you taking the time to help me out:)]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18834">WestiesGirl</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 17 January 2009 at 12:23am<br /><br />lol!!! Well being a Born and Bred <strong><font color="red">CANTA</font><font color="black">BRIAN</font></strong> I definitely vote Christchurch!!!<br /><br />I agree with all the comments about Christchurch, there really isnt much more to add except for its a damn good place to live and raise children <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17802">Bobbie</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 January 2009 at 10:54pm<br /><br />Welcome!<br />Apologies it's late and I haven't read through all the replies.<br /><br />Christchurch has a <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley27.gif" border="0"> to its city whereas Auckland is big and spread out. However within Auckland you may find the Suburbs of Westmere (central) or Titirangi (West) to your liking. Both have a really interesting alternative village feel and in Westmere there is the well known <a href="http://www.wellpark.co.nz/" target="_blank"> Wellpark Yoga School </a><br /><br />I have found Christchurch isn't as ethnically diverse as Auckland which you may view as a good or bad thing. <br /><br />Christchurch gets nice dry weather but extremes of temperature - Auckland doesn't get as hot or as cold but it rains more in winter (or at least feels like it - think Seattle lol!) and is muggy as heck in summer.<br /><br />Christchurch is flat comparitive to Auckland which is basically all hills (Volcanos). However Chc gets Snow and Auckland doesn't - how much will you miss snow?<br /><br />Personally I love Auckland but I was born and bred here. While I don't love Christchurch itself I do love the Southern hospitality and the beautiful South Island.<br /><br />Some websites that may help you (sorry if you have some of these already):<br /><a href="http://www.aucklandcity.govt.nz/" target="_blank">Auckland City Council</a> Central Auckland<br /><a href="http://www.ccc.govt.nz/" target="_blank">Christchurch City Council</a><br /><a href="http://www.northshorecity.govt.nz/" target="_blank">North Shore City Council</a> North Auckland<br /><a href="http://www.waitakere.govt.nz/" target="_blank">Waitakere City Council</a> West Auckland<br /><a href="http://www.ero.govt.nz/ero/publishing.nsf/C&#111;ntent/Home+Page" target="_blank">ERO Website</a> Will help with assessing early childhood centres and primary schools for your son.<br /><br />ETA: The traffic isn't a problem usually so long as you plan your day around it <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> and you get used to it. Of course there will be more traffic in Auckland than in Christchurch because the population is so much larger and also due to the way that Auckland is spread out (most of it over an isthmus) which means you get unavoidable bottle necks.<br /><br />Aucklanders do love their cars but on the bright side if you can drive here you can drive anywhere lol! <br /><br />ETA again: Whoops sorry forgot <br /><a href="http://www.manukau.govt.nz/" target="_blank">Manukau City Council</a> South Auckland<span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by Bobbie</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19832">Natalie_G</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 January 2009 at 9:54pm<br /><br />I am a North Shore Aucklander, I wouldnt live in Auckland city but North Shore isnt too bad.<br /><br />Better access to beaches and parks, traffic can be a problem especially when school starts (bearly any traffic when its school holidays).<br /><br />DH loves Christchurch and my cousin lives there too.  The choices for me would be either Christchurch or far up the North Island (but its harder to find jobs)]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10360">pepsi</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 January 2009 at 9:44pm<br /><br />AUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND!<br /><br />And don't forget you can use Google streetview to check out neighbourhoods!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17625">IVFGirl1111</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 January 2009 at 9:22pm<br /><br />Annnnnnnnnnd their off and racing to Christchurch!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17987">kabe</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 January 2009 at 9:15pm<br /><br />What an interesting discussion! Firstly, it's great that you've chosen to come to NZ and I'm sure you'll be happy wherever you end up living <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> .<br /><br />I can comment on Chch & Akld, as I was born in Chch & have spent most of my life living in Akld. Can't comment on the Waikato as never lived there.<br /><br />Chch is beautiful. Hot in summer & cold in winter. It's very flat, has good public transport, not too crowded and close to plenty of ski-fields (if you like ski-ing!). There are also lots of nice bars, cafes and restaurants there.<br /><br />On the -ve (and this is just my opinion), it's quite a conservative city and is not very multi-cultural. <br /><br />Akld is a very busy, city with lots of beaches, parks, and malls! Auckland University has an excellent reputation (may be slightly bias as I work there <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> ). There are loads of great cafes, restaurants and bars. It's quite a liberal city and is very multi-cultural. The climate is not as extreme as Chch, but it can get very humid in summer and can be quite wet in winter.<br /><br />On the -ve, traffic can be a problem, but this can be largely avoided if you live where there's rail & a good bus service.<br /><br />Good luck with your decision!!!<br /><br />]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18554">myfullhouse</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 January 2009 at 9:09pm<br /><br />I am a born and bred Aucklander and would not live anywhere else in the country. I don't find the traffic a problem at all, especially if you are sensible about when you travel or allow enough time. When I was at AUT and later when I worked in the city I would just catch the bus, it was great as I got to relax and read a book. <br /><br />In my opinion Auckland has so much more to offer as so many have mentioned. It is also a more diverse culture, very multicultural which I think is important for Jack as he grows and learns to understand and respect different people. Each time we go and visit the ILs in Nelson I cannot get over how white it is - by that I mean everyone is a Kiwi/European, it is definately not multicultural and from some of my experiences it can get a bit racist. I would imagine that ChCh would be much the same. Hamilton is lovely and some of the surounding areas such as Cambridge are too but for me they are too slow. Auckland allows you to have the city at your doorstep but if you want you can live slightly quieter in the suburbs.]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Moving to New Zealand! : Oh Wow, Boulders looks beautiful! Personaly...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19163">McPloppy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 January 2009 at 8:16pm<br /><br />Oh Wow, Boulders looks beautiful!<br />Personaly i would choos Christchurch (and i did lol).<br />I lived in Auckland for three years ans found the humidity very difficult to live with and it rained a lot of the time and i found it difficult to get my nappies dry <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0">.  Also i think I missed the hot dry nor west winds of Canterbury<br /><a href="http://images.google.co.nz/images?hl=en&rlz=1T4GPEA_enNZ296NZ296&resnum=0&q=canterbury%20nz&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi" target="_blank">Canterbury</a><br /><br />The good thing about Auckland though is that is is multi cultural and you are exposed to a variety of differnt exciting cultures also the people I new were very friendly but it took a long time for me to make friends as a stay at home mum...nothing could make me move back there.<br />I cannot comment on Hamilton as I have only been there a couple of times but it had the same sort of weather as Auckland so did not try to like it.<br /><br />Also Canterbury/Christchurch Rugby teams hold the super 14 and NPC trophies...Lisa you look completely one eyed!!!!<br /><img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />Seriously though Living in Christchurch you are near the mountains, beach, hot springs, whale watching and the rugged beauty of the West coast.<br /><br />Good luck with your decision<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17979">MummyFreckle</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 January 2009 at 7:34pm<br /><br /><P>I find it really interesting that everyone has commented about the traffic in Auckland. As a SAHM I am NEVER EVER affected by traffic, even though I travel to the North Shore (over the habour bridge) at least twice a week. I guess its one of the benefits of living in a central suburb (which has lots of character) we have a lot of route diversity. </P><P>I would argue that as a yoga teacher, you would have a much larger population base of potential clients in auckland, its pretty popular up here, as we are all a fairly liberal bunch - well especially around where I live! </P><P>I also think that there is an amazing outdoors lifestyle in auckland, especially around the water / habour / beach...but we also have the Waitakere Ranges for fantastic bush walks. </P><P>I guess its a tricky one - Auckland is a truly international city, with the benefits (and flaws) of one - the restaurants, the cultures, the festivals, the parents resources and groups, the business opportunities, the airport and travel links (direct international flights).....but then it is a big city. </P><P>Ultimatley it will be where you guys feel comfortable....</P><P>Welcome in advance - hopefully you will love NZ as much as we do (I am an import from the UK!!) </P><P>&nbsp;</P>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Moving to New Zealand! : Ok here&amp;#039;s my 2 cents worth....]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19663">Emily281</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 January 2009 at 7:32pm<br /><br />Ok here's my 2 cents worth. I'll start by declaring that I'm an Aussie and have never been to Auckland or Hamilton. BUT .... I would say that based on your requirements Christchurch is probably the best fit (and I'm not biased because I live here either <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> ).<br /><br />I grew up in a small town in Tasmania and have also lived in Melbourne for awhile. I find that Christchurch is somewhere in the middle of small country town and big urban city and I love living here. It's big enough that you can always find what you're looking for - be it shopping, coffee shops, culture, sports or whatever, but its no so big that its full of people and takes you forever to get anywhere. We live on the west side of Christchurch but it still only takes us half an hour to get to the beach. Plus its within easy distance of the ski fields and Hamner springs as others have mentioned.<br /><br />And just so you don't get corrupted by looking at those Auckland websites here are some for Christchurch:<br /><a href="http://www.christchurch.org.nz/" target="_blank">http://www.christchurch.org.nz/</a><br /><br /><a href="http://www.christchurchnz.com/canterbury/" target="_blank">http://www.christchurchnz.com/canterbury/</a><br /><br />oh and just to be thorough here is a link to the Universtiy of canterbury which also has some links and information about living in Christchurch (and is also where I'll be studying this year <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> <br /><br /><a href="http://www.canterbury.ac.nz/intstud/?s=home" target="_blank">University of Canterbury</a>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10454">Lisha</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 January 2009 at 7:27pm<br /><br />I too am from Christchurch! and agree with the other Chch girls.  Everything is soo close and handy. The ohbaby girls here are great, and meet up every now and then, whoever is free.<br /><br />I have lived in many places, not orginally from the South Island, but I wouldn't choose anywhere else to live, it's amazing down here, maybe cold in the winter, but lovely, warm clear days in the summer. Temps up to 40.C ( was this last week)!!<br /><br />All the best with your choice of city! And welcome in advance to NZ!!! <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Moving to New Zealand! : I say Chch and Agree with everything...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=11676">Bubbaloo</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 January 2009 at 7:14pm<br /><br />I say Chch and Agree with everything My2angels said it's great cos so easy to get around and doesn't take long to get used to were everything not from here originally been he for about 7 years and have made the bestest friends yes winter time can be cold but if you check what our weather has been like recently it is nothing but cold.<br /><br />And aukland weather is feely humid not nice at all. i grew up about an hour north so remeber it well if I was to move back up there though I would probably go North shore more than Auckland.]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Moving to New Zealand! : Had a look at your pics of Boulder,...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18078">caliandjack</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 January 2009 at 5:56pm<br /><br />Had a look at your pics of Boulder, you'll love Chch with the alps in the distance, I expect its no colder than Chicago in winter. <br />Auckland weather is very humid can take a bit of getting used to.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18232">Shezamumof3</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 January 2009 at 5:49pm<br /><br /> Im in Auckland, I like it. There are bad parts, but you get that anywhere you live.<br /><br />I like Auckland because you have everything you need and plus all the cool bands and stuff come here<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0">  Not so dorkish really<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Moving to New Zealand! :   lisa85 wrote:Sorry I take back...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17523">Jay_R</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 January 2009 at 4:37pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by lisa85" alt="Originally posted by lisa85" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>lisa85 wrote:</strong><br /><br />Sorry I take back the Dorkland thing didn't mean to offend anyone I love Auckland my sister lives there.... peace <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"></td></tr></table><br /><br />LOL <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Moving to New Zealand! : Sorry I take back the Dorkland...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=20735">lisa85</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 January 2009 at 4:35pm<br /><br />Sorry I take back the Dorkland thing didn't mean to offend anyone I love Auckland my sister lives there.... peace <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10366">susieq</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 January 2009 at 4:28pm<br /><br />I think Auckland too]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=20418">Hopes</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 January 2009 at 4:07pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by joshierocks" alt="Originally posted by joshierocks" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>joshierocks wrote:</strong><br /><br />I should say that my comment re Auckland University is the best in the country is going by a report that was published last year putting Auckland Uni in the top 10 in the world for various courses.<br /><br />I went to Massey, and I thought it was fantastic<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0"></td></tr></table><br /><br />Yep, that sounds right. I'm assuming that report was based on the PBRF rankings, and there's no doubt that for some areas of study, Auckland is the place to go. For other areas of study, another University might be a better choice. So much depends on what you want to study... and even the angle you want to take on it! <br /><br />I studied at Massey too, and loved it as well.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21588">Spring Sun</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 January 2009 at 4:04pm<br /><br />Wow!  Thanks everyone!  I had no idea I would come home to find so many responses-esp since it is still 7:30am there!  <br /><br />I went to the bookstore and looked through everything and for some reason I though Wellington was on the list and I fell in love with it!  Darn it!  I was sitting next to a man who just happens to be moving to Christchurch next month.  Small world!<br /><br />Okay, so you are all great, and I have not declared yet who will win the 3 1/2 of us <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0"> , but...I don't think Hamilton would work from me.  I am from Chicago, and I went to a college outside of it that was just farmland and I was not happy.  <br /><br />When Elijah was 6 months old we moved to Atlanta, and I hated it.  Too much pollution, you literally could not drive anywhere bc the traffic was so, soo bad, and I had trouble meeting other moms.  But it has well over 5 million people. Chicago has about 10 million (what is wrong with us!). So I am guessing that Auckland would still be very different.<br /><br />Thanks for the link to the Auckland suburbs!  I am going to pour over that tonight.  When I would looking at real estate there I had no idea what I was looking at.<br /><br />Christchurch sounds great!  I am going to do a bunch of research on it.  Too bad I just wasted the night researching Wellington!<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley6.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />Boulder is really beautiful. <a href="http://images.google.com/images?q=boulder%20colorado&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi" target="_blank">Click here</a> to see it.<br /><br />Boulder has snowboarding nearby and so many outdoor things to do.  There are a ton of young families here and always something to do with kids.  And it is a college town so there is always a lot going on.<br /><br />We will be visiting NZ in a couple months, and I am sure we will get a better feel for the towns then and hopefully fall in love with someplace.  <br /><br />I will keep looking.  Any more info or opinions or advice is so appreciated!<span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by Spring Sun</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17523">Jay_R</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 January 2009 at 3:26pm<br /><br />I should say that my comment re Auckland University is the best in the country is going by a report that was published last year putting Auckland Uni in the top 10 in the world for various courses.<br /><br />I went to Massey, and I thought it was fantastic<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=16223">my2angels</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 January 2009 at 3:25pm<br /><br />I might be biased but my vote is christchurch. I love it here and couldnt imagine raising my kids anywhere else.  Everything is so easy to get to, from one side of town to the other is about 30 which makes us sound small but we arent that small, just well planned. Plus there is such a wide range of outdoor stuff to do here. If your into snowing we have heaps of ski fields around about an hours drive, there is hanmer springs for the hot pools etc only about 90 minutes drive not to mention the vineyards and beaches. It really is beautiful. If you want a big city type of life then its probably not the place for you and I would suggest Auckland but if you want family friendly, laid back then its your place and even though lots of concerts etc... happen in Auckland its only a short plane ride away. Oh and there are heaps of parenting type communities and events in chch so meeting new people wouldnt be an issue]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=20418">Hopes</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 January 2009 at 3:05pm<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Joscia" alt="Originally posted by Joscia" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Joscia wrote:</strong><br /><br />- Auckland University is fabulous. I did post-grad study there and it's (apparently) world class<br /></td></tr></table><br /><br />Very true.<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by joshierocks" alt="Originally posted by joshierocks" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>joshierocks wrote:</strong><br /><br />...the University is the best in the country</td></tr></table><br /><br />Rather debatable <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> <br /><br /><br />ETA that I'm not a huge fan of the name 'dorkland' either... because it's a nice place really.<span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by Hopes</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17523">Jay_R</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 January 2009 at 2:59pm<br /><br />I vote Auckland too (and quit calling it Dorkland <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif" border="0"> )<br /><br />Auckland has the best weather, its close to so many amazing beaches, islands, harbours.  The shopping is awesome, the University is the best in the country and there are so many activities for families that are run free by the council.<br /><br />Yay, go Auckland <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18809">Joscia</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 January 2009 at 2:26pm<br /><br />I vote AUCKLAND! It rules! <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />Best things about living in Auckland: <br />- You're virtually never more than a 1/2 hour drive from the beach - the West Coast beaches are magnificent! + great free swimming! <br />- It's a really diverse city - all the suburbs have their own unique 'character'<br />- The CBD is a good size - it's not TOO big (IMO) but big enough to get some of the benefits of living in / near an 'almost' international sized city - ie: the great bands when they come to play, shopping, restaurants etc<br />- Auckland University is fabulous. I did post-grad study there and it's (apparently) world class<br />- The harbour - Hauraki Gulf is jewel - it's great to be able to jump on a ferry and visit the islands for a day<br />-Being slightly bigger, I would argue that Auckland is probably more liberal than the smaller centres<br /><br />Sure, the traffic can be pretty appalling at times, but you just need to take it into consideration when traveling. Don't try and go anywhere at peak times if you can avoid it! (Which you probably won't be since it sounds like you won't be doing the rush hour commute.) <br /><br />You'd need to investigate the suburb you want to live in though - they really are quite different. <br />Have a look <a href="http://www.auckland-suburb-guide.co.nz/" target="_blank">Here</a> Or You can order a comprehensive book about the city - <a href="http://www.wheretoliveinauckland.co.nz/" target="_blank">Here</a><br /><br />Good luck!! ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=20735">lisa85</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 January 2009 at 2:07pm<br /><br />Yeah I have to admit if I didn't live in CHCH Wellington would be my next pic. The only thing I don't like about Wellys is the roads I find driving around Wellington quite dangerous. All the roads are so narrow and there seem to be so many idiot drivers. ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=20939">pomikiwi</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 January 2009 at 2:05pm<br /><br />Welcome to NZ and hope you enjoy your time here. I moved here from the UK over 5 years ago and I personally hate the city (love them for visiting but over them for living!) so i'll leave that question for other people to answer, hehe!<br /><br />Good Luck and i'm sure you'll settle in fine.<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley10.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=20418">Hopes</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 January 2009 at 2:04pm<br /><br />I did wonder why Wellington wasn't on the list myself. Lovely place. <br /><br />Although I wouldn't live there for fear of being eaten by an earthquake <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21191">Judedude</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 January 2009 at 2:02pm<br /><br />I know Wellington isn't on the list, but it has recently been voted the best place in New Zealand to raise a family.......<br /><br />If you are looking for a liberal city, Wellington is it! <br /><br /><br /><br /><br />edited for bad spelling!<span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by Judedude</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18078">caliandjack</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 January 2009 at 1:59pm<br /><br /><P align=left>I'll vote for Wellington, great coffee.&nbsp; </P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=20248">clover</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 January 2009 at 1:56pm<br /><br />Oh and I fully get that Wellington isn't an option - just creating some debate <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=20248">clover</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 January 2009 at 1:56pm<br /><br />Gosh, maybe my "most people will discount the waikato" comment isn't ringing true!<br /><br />I actually quite like Hamilton, my parents lived there for a number of years - I just wouldn't live there myself!<br /><br />Why don't you come to Wellington?  Beautiful city (if a little breazy)]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=20735">lisa85</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 January 2009 at 1:27pm<br /><br />Right thats it I'm starting a petition of sorts lets take a vote put your name next to the city you think is best. Booboo I putting you next to CHCH cause I know your with me on this one <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />CHRISTCHURCH - <br />Lisa85<br />Booboo<br /><br />DORKLAND - <br /><br />HAMILTRON - <br /><br /><br />]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=12584">EmDee</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 January 2009 at 1:16pm<br /><br />Or my favourite - Hamil-Tron <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley8.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />Lol at Lisa <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18010">Glow</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 January 2009 at 1:12pm<br /><br />Hi there<br /><br />Welcome<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />Im going to say Hamilton. Hamilton, Hamilton!<br />I dont live there myself, I live in a country town 40mins away but..<br /><br />Hamilton is the 7th largest city, in the Waikato region of the Nth Island NZ, 80miles south of Auckland. It sits on a main Rd & railway in the Waikato basin (NZs richest & most furtile soil) on the banks of the Waikato River<br />The Entertainment is quite good due to the large student population. Lonely planet 08 stated "the city's main street has sprouted a sophisticated and vibrant stretch of bars and eateries that on the weekend at least leave Auckland's Viaduct Harbour for dead in the boozy fun stakes."  Hamilton also has the second largest selection of cafes- second only to ponsonby RD Auckland.<br />Outdoors & sports- you are spolit for chioce as you are centrally located to beaches, mountains, caves, lakes, rivers etc. <br /><br />Hamiltons nickname used to be " Cowtown" LOL due to it being a rural service centre<br /><br />A more common nickname  Hamilton- City of the future]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18078">caliandjack</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 January 2009 at 1:06pm<br /><br /><P><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><img src="forum_images/quote_box.png" title="Originally posted by Hopes" alt="Originally posted by Hopes" style="vertical-align: text-bottom;" /> <strong>Hopes wrote:</strong><br /><br />Oh, and I'm now holding a grudge against you, mrsg1. I am reluctant to speak to you ever again. You have bad-mouthed my city. You will pay. (Don't worry, I'm kidding, I like you too much to hold it against you).<IMG src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0"></td></tr></table> </P><P align=left>Ha ha! I specifically avoid Hamilton every time I go to Akl to visit my folks. Cambridge is better if you have to live in the Waikato.</P><P align=left>I'm a Aucklander born and bred, and leaving to live elsewhere in NZ is the best thing I've ever done. There is so much more to NZ than what's north of the Bombays.</P><P align=left>Wellington would be my fav city, with Chch a close second.&nbsp; </P>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Moving to New Zealand! : Hahahahahahahah Lisa - I seriously...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17625">IVFGirl1111</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 January 2009 at 1:05pm<br /><br />Hahahahahahahah Lisa - I seriously spat my drink out then when I read that!<br /><br />Tears of laughter in my eyes!!!<br /><br />Christchurch will!!!]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=20735">lisa85</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 January 2009 at 12:59pm<br /><br />The battle is on! 3 citys go head to head in an epic battle to win 3 and a half Americans! Who will take home the prize?]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[Moving to New Zealand! : The one con about Chch for me...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=20418">Hopes</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 23795<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 16 January 2009 at 12:47pm<br /><br />The one con about Chch for me is that we like to be based in the North Island, which has a bigger population. It's easier to get to places like Auckland and Wellington - this works out for us with both our jobs/study and our spare time. But that might not make any difference to you at all.<span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by Hopes</span>]]>
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