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   <title><![CDATA[3rd Degree Tear : Ooh ouch Arohanui, that sounds...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21715">DonnaB</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 24521<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 14 February 2009 at 3:01pm<br /><br />Ooh ouch Arohanui, that sounds rough too.<br /><br />LMAO - re "try to think "saggy baggy softy fanny"<br /><br />I too really enjoyed my labour - no pain relief and used breathing to work the baby down.  I actually don't think I was <em>quite</em> ready to push, I didn't realise you had to wait until you could control holding on no more. (if you know what I mean) <br /><br />My whole labour was only 7 hours but due to all the over pushing I got very tired and started to fall asleep between contractions.  My MW suggested a forcep delivery to help progress quicker.  <br /><br />My MW said she was just about to make a small EPI cut but I tore before she could get the scissors there.  <br /><br />DD's head was only 33cms so think it was just that my skin was fragile - MW said no reason why can't have another VB but specialist said have a 50% chance that will tear again, could be another 3rd degree of even a 4th degree.<br /><br />My specialist told me that because scar tissue doesn't stretch as much as normal skin, can make birthing difficult.  I was incontinent for 3mths following DD birth - it wasn't nice and sometimes embarrasing.  I also suffered 4 infections due to the wound.<br /><br />IMO VB is better for baby but don't want to suffer forever from it if tear..  Scary decision.<br /><br />Do you think because of the tear that you won't push so hard next time..?]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[3rd Degree Tear : Hi Donna, I was luckily enough...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17924">busyissy</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 24521<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 14 February 2009 at 12:59pm<br /><br />Hi Donna,<br />I was luckily enough not to have much damage with my bubs (Issy had a small head bless her!) but live in terror of it each time. Just want to send you a <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif" border="0"> and say congratulations on your #2. Hope everything goes well.]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[3rd Degree Tear : I had a 3rd degree with Blair,...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18020">MonicaMouse</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 24521<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 14 February 2009 at 12:51pm<br /><br />I had a 3rd degree with Blair, and speaking with my MW recently she saw no reason why I couldn't try a VB again.  Part of the reason I think I ended up with the tear was because of his delivery - he ended up posterior due to 5 days of bedrest prior to delivery ( in which time the little monkey turned), I also ended up with ventouse and forceps and once his head was out there was no stopping him - he just "exploded" out.<br /><br /><br />This time around I'm going in more informed (having had a delivery) with what to expect, and want to try a couple of different things which I hope will help ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[3rd Degree Tear : Wow, great thread! I love that...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18882">Chickoin</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 24521<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 14 February 2009 at 11:42am<br /><br />Wow, great thread! I love that website. It has really got me thinking about my next baby and how to avoid a tear. (Definatly won't be on my back!!)<br />Just wanted to say best of luck Donna, good on you for looking into a VB.<br />And Congrats for making an Oct bub, they're the best kind <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0"> (or early Nov...)]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[3rd Degree Tear : Hi Donna, I had the same issues...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17925">arohanui</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 24521<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 13 February 2009 at 11:09pm<br /><br />Hi Donna, I had the same issues with you (with tearing... in the same place, apparently it was "shattered" <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0">) and was also told the same thing... that they recommend a c-section cos there is a 1 in 4 risk of damage being worse and being left incontinent (is this what you were told as well?  1 in 4?)<br /><br />When next time comes around, I'm pretty scared actually and don't think I'll be able to try a v birth.  I'm just scared I'll be left incontinent.  My first birth was entirely natural and lovely, and I was really relaxed (positive thinking and all that).  Nothing could have changed the fact that my boy just had a huge head cos it was swollen (39.5cm) and he came out with his hand on his face (darn that elbow that ripped me to shreds).  So I guess for me, I'm scared cos I can't really control it.  And I'm scared that it could happen again, and my next baby could be even bigger and...... yeah.<br /><br />I really wish you all the best if you end up going for a v birth, I think that's awesome!  Probably the best thing to do would be to find a mw who you get on really well with and who is really supportive, that way you'll feel really comfortable and in safe hands <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"><br /><br />Did the specialist or your mw give you any insight as to why you might have tore so badly with your first bub?<br /><br />Oh and I'm watching this thread with interest... will have to go and have a read of that website I think....]]>
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   <pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 23:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[3rd Degree Tear : That&amp;#039;s a very interesting...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=20037">kakapo</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 24521<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 13 February 2009 at 10:22pm<br /><br /><P align=left>That's a very interesting website monster - has helped to reassure me that it should be fine to have a vaginal birth next time, even after a 3rd degree tear. This particular piece of advice from a midwife made me giggle....</P><P align=left>"<EM>Good luck. As well as trying to breathe the baby out s-l-o-w-l-y try to think "saggy baggy softy fanny". (you can get it back to nice firm bum after) My other suggestion is staying off your back. In the second stage left-lateral or hands and knees, whichever feels right for you, and don't be afraid to change if your body wants to. Lots and lots of positive thoughts</EM>."</P><P align=left>ETA - oh and all the best Donna for your pregnancy and birth <IMG src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0">.</P><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by kakapo</span>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[3rd Degree Tear : Congratulations on #2 Donna, you&amp;#039;re...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19766">weegee</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 24521<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 13 February 2009 at 11:44am<br /><br />Congratulations on #2 Donna, you're a braver woman than I am <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0">  Feel free to pop in and say hello to us all in the July 2008 thread, we talk a lot but we don't bite and newbies are always welcome!<br /><br />monster is right, this was asked not that long ago, that thread is <a href="http://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=20702" target="_blank">here</a>.  Hope that helps <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0">]]>
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   <pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 11:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[3rd Degree Tear : I haven&amp;#039;t been in your situation,...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17824">monster</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 24521<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 13 February 2009 at 11:35am<br /><br />I haven't been in your situation, but remembered reading about this somewhere else recently.  <br /><br />There's a UK website that has questions and answers posted by midwives.  It's full of different points of view and real examples of all different situations, with a bit specifically on tearing <a href="http://www.radmid.dem&#111;n.co.uk/thirddeg.htm" target="_blank">here</a>.<br /><br />Hope it helps and good luck. <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[3rd Degree Tear : I don&amp;#039;t have any experience...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=19509">RBsMama</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 24521<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 13 February 2009 at 11:26am<br /><br />I don't have any experience here, but didn't want to read and run. I hope you get some helpful answers and good luck with your pregnancy and birth.<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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   <pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 11:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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   <title><![CDATA[3rd Degree Tear : This might be TMI for some - but...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21715">DonnaB</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 24521<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 13 February 2009 at 10:09am<br /><br />This might be TMI for some - but am hoping there is someone out there that can relate to me.<br /><br />I had a 3rd Degree Tear after the birth of my first DD 7 months ago and am pregnant again with our 2nd baby due in Oct 09.<br /><br />I suffered some incontinence the first 3 months after DD's birth due to the tear.  That has stopped but still hurts some after BM.  My scar is quite substantial and was effected with when I had surgery for a post partrum heamorage (sp?) 6 weeks after DD's birth.<br /><br />I saw a specialist yesterday who has given me a letter of recommendation to have a C Section due to other factors to do with back end, but has said it's totally up to me.<br /><br />My question is, has anyone had a 3rd degree tear then gone on to have another VB without any issues with the 2nd birth..??<br />I would prefer a VB but specialist worried I will suffer longer incontinence and ongoing problems.<br /><br />Thank you..  <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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