OHbaby! Forums : ACC https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Mon, 06 Apr 2026 19:27:06 +0000 Thu, 23 Apr 2009 17:21:55 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.05 360 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=26087 <![CDATA[OHbaby! Forums]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_images/web_wiz_forums.png https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/ <![CDATA[ACC : Aliasmum wrote:No it shouldn&#039;t...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=26087&PID=668900&title=acc#668900 Author: BaAsKa
Subject: 26087
Posted: 23 April 2009 at 5:21pm

Originally posted by Aliasmum Aliasmum wrote:

No it shouldn't come out of your sick leave. That is totally incorrect for a work related accident.

The employer should pay 80% of average earnings. So if he's earns a set amount each week it will be 80% of this. If he earns overtime or his hours fluctate then he will still get 80% but it will be either averaged over the past 4 weeks, 3 months or 52 weeks.

In most payroll systems there will be a separate ACC function to enable employers to do this.

If you injury yourself outside work, ie non work accident then you can use your sick leave.

Please note what I said about is from my experience with Acepay, but should be similar as to all payroll systems.


yip this is what i was going to say. DH had a accident a few years back where he had to have 11 months off so we went through all this with his work and yes because he payed ACC levies (something like that) his work HAD to pay for it and not use his sick pay....and in saying that it wasnt an accident at work either???....]]> Thu, 23 Apr 2009 17:21:55 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=26087&PID=668900&title=acc#668900 <![CDATA[ACC : Was going to say, if your employer...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=26087&PID=668606&title=acc#668606 Author: AandCsmum
Subject: 26087
Posted: 23 April 2009 at 12:38pm

Was going to say, if your employer has made you take your sick leave for a work place accident, request that they give you those days back. It's not right for them to do that.

If you haven't kept the payslip, you are within your rights to ask to see that week on their payroll system or your file.]]> Thu, 23 Apr 2009 12:38:13 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=26087&PID=668606&title=acc#668606 <![CDATA[ACC : No it is not sick leave, & is...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=26087&PID=668603&title=acc#668603 Author: AandCsmum
Subject: 26087
Posted: 23 April 2009 at 12:35pm

No it is not sick leave, & is definitely not dependant on the employer. It is 80% of their wages. He had the accident while at work in a place where employers have to keep their staff safe. So essential it is their fault they did not put in place things to keep him safe so there fore they pay.

Please ring ACC to clarify.

Sick leave is for when you are sick & is used if you have any if you can't go to work. An employer can not make you take sick leave for an accident caused on their work sites.

First week Payment information Please read, this is straight from the Act]]> Thu, 23 Apr 2009 12:35:43 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=26087&PID=668603&title=acc#668603 <![CDATA[ACC : He was definitely at work....getting...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=26087&PID=668470&title=acc#668470 Author: minik8e
Subject: 26087
Posted: 23 April 2009 at 10:52am

He was definitely at work....getting out of his digger to move the truck. Surgery this afternoon.

Gah, so much to think about.]]> Thu, 23 Apr 2009 10:52:42 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=26087&PID=668470&title=acc#668470 <![CDATA[ACC : yeah pretty sure its the sick...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=26087&PID=668453&title=acc#668453 Author: noisybaby
Subject: 26087
Posted: 23 April 2009 at 10:31am

yeah pretty sure its the sick leave or they can negotiate to use any holiday left owing. It all depends on the employer]]> Thu, 23 Apr 2009 10:31:44 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=26087&PID=668453&title=acc#668453 <![CDATA[ACC : oh no Kate your poor DH i know...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=26087&PID=668414&title=acc#668414 Author: sweetpea
Subject: 26087
Posted: 23 April 2009 at 10:04am

oh no Kate your poor DH i know how he feels i'm just getting over a knee injury myself thankfully no surgery was needed though. Make sure he does his exercises they are really important for both his recovery and in the future the more often he does them the faster he will recover. You might need to get out a stcik to make sure he does them.

No idea about the payment of one week s was under the assumption that it was sick leave too.]]> Thu, 23 Apr 2009 10:04:52 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=26087&PID=668414&title=acc#668414 <![CDATA[ACC : ha ha i am just going thru the...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=26087&PID=668365&title=acc#668365 Author: ohanlon82
Subject: 26087
Posted: 23 April 2009 at 9:10am

ha ha i am just going thru the same thing at the moment Kate with two guys from work.. one work related and one not.

your employer pays the 1st week... normally they use sick leave 1st and then pay the rest at 80%

if it is outside work accident the employer does not need to pay anything from the last hour of work you work.. not even sick leave

hope this helps ]]> Thu, 23 Apr 2009 09:10:36 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=26087&PID=668365&title=acc#668365 <![CDATA[ACC : Kate....completely understand...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=26087&PID=668353&title=acc#668353 Author: AandCsmum
Subject: 26087
Posted: 23 April 2009 at 8:52am

Kate....completely understand where you are coming from.

This is what happened to us. 8 weeks preg, DH had major accident, got married at 16 weeks preg....hmmm fun times.]]> Thu, 23 Apr 2009 08:52:47 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=26087&PID=668353&title=acc#668353 <![CDATA[ACC : No it shouldn&#039;t come out...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=26087&PID=668349&title=acc#668349 Author: AandCsmum
Subject: 26087
Posted: 23 April 2009 at 8:48am

No it shouldn't come out of your sick leave. That is totally incorrect for a work related accident.

The employer should pay 80% of average earnings. So if he's earns a set amount each week it will be 80% of this. If he earns overtime or his hours fluctate then he will still get 80% but it will be either averaged over the past 4 weeks, 3 months or 52 weeks.

In most payroll systems there will be a separate ACC function to enable employers to do this.

If you injury yourself outside work, ie non work accident then you can use your sick leave.

Please note what I said about is from my experience with Acepay, but should be similar as to all payroll systems.]]> Thu, 23 Apr 2009 08:48:17 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=26087&PID=668349&title=acc#668349 <![CDATA[ACC : It&#039;s the last 4 weeks cuppatea...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=26087&PID=668336&title=acc#668336 Author: minik8e
Subject: 26087
Posted: 23 April 2009 at 8:36am

It's the last 4 weeks cuppatea - so not too bad, no unpaid leave, just lots of annual leave therefore no overtime (for the honeymoon and the V8s)...but in the last 52 weeks he's had quite a bit of overtime, and no unpaid time off at all, thankfully. I'm really grateful for the way his work pays them - anything over 8 hours in a day is classed as overtime (instead of anything over 40 hours a week), and their standard hours are 9 hours a day, so he gets 1 hour overtime per day on a standard work day.]]> Thu, 23 Apr 2009 08:36:17 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=26087&PID=668336&title=acc#668336 <![CDATA[ACC : I also thought you had to use...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=26087&PID=668335&title=acc#668335 Author: clover
Subject: 26087
Posted: 23 April 2009 at 8:35am

I also thought you had to use your sick leave.

I hope your DH is ok Kate!]]> Thu, 23 Apr 2009 08:35:30 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=26087&PID=668335&title=acc#668335 <![CDATA[ACC : LOL very true....he did it right...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=26087&PID=668332&title=acc#668332 Author: minik8e
Subject: 26087
Posted: 23 April 2009 at 8:32am

LOL very true....he did it right in between really - get married 6.5 weeks ago, have our last holiday last weekend (to the V8s) and get back to work....and do this....and hopefully, maybe, fingers crossed, he'll be back at work just as I finish (on specialist orders) ]]> Thu, 23 Apr 2009 08:32:49 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=26087&PID=668332&title=acc#668332 <![CDATA[ACC : I&#039;m not sure about the first...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=26087&PID=668331&title=acc#668331 Author: cuppatea
Subject: 26087
Posted: 23 April 2009 at 8:32am

I'm not sure about the first 5 days but after that they work the 80% out on the previous 5 weeks so if he's had any time off unpaid that will be taken into account and he would get less. After 5 weeks (if I remember correctly) they take 80% of his earnings over the last 12 months, so again something to bear in mind if he has had time off unpaid.
On the flip side if he has done a lot of overtime recently the 80% may end up being near his normal pay or more.]]> Thu, 23 Apr 2009 08:32:43 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=26087&PID=668331&title=acc#668331 <![CDATA[ACC : At least he didnt do it when the...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=26087&PID=668329&title=acc#668329 Author: lilfatty
Subject: 26087
Posted: 23 April 2009 at 8:29am

At least he didnt do it when the babies were due to arrive ... gah imagine having THREE babies to look after ]]> Thu, 23 Apr 2009 08:29:52 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=26087&PID=668329&title=acc#668329 <![CDATA[ACC : Gah, I&#039;ll try find his contract...we...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=26087&PID=668319&title=acc#668319 Author: minik8e
Subject: 26087
Posted: 23 April 2009 at 8:21am

Gah, I'll try find his contract...we of course cleaned the room out that had all the papers in to turn it into the nursery so who knows where the box has gone LOL

It's not an issue too much, as he has the sick leave to cover the majority of it, but it would be nice for him to have some left for the future, especially with these two heffalumps arriving...ahhhh well, what doesn't kill ya makes ya stronger I guess I just can't help but laugh really (or I will bawl my eyes out), what fantastic timing... ]]> Thu, 23 Apr 2009 08:21:37 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=26087&PID=668319&title=acc#668319 <![CDATA[ACC : I thought the same it comes off...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=26087&PID=668313&title=acc#668313 Author: caliandjack
Subject: 26087
Posted: 23 April 2009 at 8:17am

I thought the same it comes off your sick leave, and as your legal entitlement is 5 days would be why ACC doesn't cover the first week.

Depends on what's in his contract.

]]> Thu, 23 Apr 2009 08:17:49 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=26087&PID=668313&title=acc#668313 <![CDATA[ACC : When my partner recieved an injury,...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=26087&PID=668308&title=acc#668308 Author: FreeSpirit
Subject: 26087
Posted: 23 April 2009 at 8:11am

When my partner recieved an injury, the first week was paid out of his sick leave. It kinda upset me as i means that for the next 6months, I can't ask him to stay home if I'm too sick to look after our daughter.]]> Thu, 23 Apr 2009 08:11:07 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=26087&PID=668308&title=acc#668308 <![CDATA[ACC : I actually thought it did come...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=26087&PID=668302&title=acc#668302 Author: lilfatty
Subject: 26087
Posted: 23 April 2009 at 7:59am

I actually thought it did come out of his sick leave ... so it might pay to check with his employer.

Edited by lilfatty]]> Thu, 23 Apr 2009 07:59:07 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=26087&PID=668302&title=acc#668302 <![CDATA[ACC : Thanks Kaz - Yeah I know they...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=26087&PID=668299&title=acc#668299 Author: minik8e
Subject: 26087
Posted: 23 April 2009 at 7:50am

Thanks Kaz - Yeah I know they only pay 80% of the wages...that's cool, it's the first week that is confusing me...there's so much going on at the moment that I'm starting with something easy to figure out ]]> Thu, 23 Apr 2009 07:50:53 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=26087&PID=668299&title=acc#668299 <![CDATA[ACC : as far as i know its paid by the...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=26087&PID=668296&title=acc#668296 Author: Kazzle
Subject: 26087
Posted: 23 April 2009 at 7:46am

as far as i know its paid by the employer and isnt park of DH's sick leave, you can always ring acc and ask them, they will be able to tell you.

and acc only pay 80% of the wages i think]]> Thu, 23 Apr 2009 07:46:34 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=26087&PID=668296&title=acc#668296 <![CDATA[ACC : I wonder if anyone can help me...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=26087&PID=668289&title=acc#668289 Author: minik8e
Subject: 26087
Posted: 23 April 2009 at 7:41am

I wonder if anyone can help me because I'm really confused.

DH had an accident at work yesterday (fell off his digger and smashed his knee) and as a result is having surgery today and will be off work for at least 8-10 weeks. I know ACC doesn't cover the first week when it comes to earnings, but on their website they say this is paid by the employer if it's a work-related injury - is this just paid by the employer, or is it paid by the employer using DH's sick leave??? I really really need to find this out before next week's pay and it's so confusing!!!]]> Thu, 23 Apr 2009 07:41:46 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=26087&PID=668289&title=acc#668289