https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sat, 09 May 2026 00:25:40 +0000 Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:40:08 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.05 360 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=28189 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_images/web_wiz_forums.png https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/ https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28189&PID=752252&title=who-just-saw-the-news#752252 Author: Ant
Subject: 28189
Posted: 20 August 2009 at 11:40am

I just saw an update in the paper on this and they're saying it's not true. I believe he phrase was "I'm 99% sure this woman has mental health issues" or something, and she's refused any medical tests. I'm guessing she's a bit delusional.

So - we can rest easy - no-one was so stupid or misguided as to introduce 12 embryos and think it was a good idea when they all took!]]> Thu, 20 Aug 2009 11:40:08 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28189&PID=752252&title=who-just-saw-the-news#752252 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28189&PID=751872&title=who-just-saw-the-news#751872 Author: kiwisj
Subject: 28189
Posted: 19 August 2009 at 8:53pm

It doesn't mention it in the article (and I haven't gone looking for more info) but surely this wasn't a case of implanting 12 embryos. More likely to be fertility treatment to increase egg production and then they still went ahead with IUI? I think that's how it works? Just thinking, thats how Jon & Kate (of the Plus 8 variety) got their 6....

Still, it is wrong wrong wrong IMO. Very sad.]]> Wed, 19 Aug 2009 20:53:12 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28189&PID=751872&title=who-just-saw-the-news#751872 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28189&PID=751778&title=who-just-saw-the-news#751778 Author: caitlynsmygirl
Subject: 28189
Posted: 19 August 2009 at 7:19pm

How do they get 12 in there ? i didnt even know it was possible, how many did they put in? are they wanting babies,or are they wanting to make history? ]]> Wed, 19 Aug 2009 19:19:00 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28189&PID=751778&title=who-just-saw-the-news#751778 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28189&PID=751465&title=who-just-saw-the-news#751465 Author: BugTeeny
Subject: 28189
Posted: 19 August 2009 at 2:01pm

Shocking. Shocking shocking shocking.

Even IF these babies survive, there's a high chance they'll have mental/physical disabilities.

How is that fair?

]]> Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:01:47 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28189&PID=751465&title=who-just-saw-the-news#751465 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28189&PID=751383&title=who-just-saw-the-news#751383 Author: NovemberMum
Subject: 28189
Posted: 19 August 2009 at 12:49pm

even if all the babies to survive she is going to need a lot of nannies..cause even if she has a husband/partner and feeding 1 baby at a time each (so 2 at once) each baby takes say 30 minutes to feed so thats around 3 hours feeding and if they feed approx every 2-3 hours..by the time you finished feeding the last babies the fiirst babies need feeding again oh and in that time you still need to change their nappies and put them down for a sleep..might as well say goodbye to sleep]]> Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:49:56 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28189&PID=751383&title=who-just-saw-the-news#751383 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28189&PID=751345&title=who-just-saw-the-news#751345 Author: Bobbie
Subject: 28189
Posted: 19 August 2009 at 11:39am

Personally I think if there are rules against abortion then there should be rules around IVF - i.e. very strict controls.

But the fact that the article says they don't know if she was offered selective reduction makes me think it isn't illegal there.

Edited by Bobbie]]> Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:39:17 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28189&PID=751345&title=who-just-saw-the-news#751345 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28189&PID=751332&title=who-just-saw-the-news#751332 Author: Jelly
Subject: 28189
Posted: 19 August 2009 at 11:26am

"Our joy increased with the growing number."

These people are delusional. She has had several miscarriages before, how is she going to feel when she goes into labour at 20 weeks and loses them all?]]> Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:26:21 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28189&PID=751332&title=who-just-saw-the-news#751332 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28189&PID=751327&title=who-just-saw-the-news#751327 Author: sweetpea
Subject: 28189
Posted: 19 August 2009 at 11:24am

I agree completely with everone elses comments we are just not meant to have litters. Something really does need to be done about the ethics of this.]]> Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:24:13 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28189&PID=751327&title=who-just-saw-the-news#751327 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28189&PID=751324&title=who-just-saw-the-news#751324 Author: Febgirl
Subject: 28189
Posted: 19 August 2009 at 11:17am


I thought I read somewhere that she was from Tunisia so Africa? Not America anyway, and perhaps there are strict cultural/religious rules against abortion, even in a case like this. Still can't figure out the logistics of so many babies in one womb though!

Edited by Febgirl]]> Wed, 19 Aug 2009 11:17:39 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28189&PID=751324&title=who-just-saw-the-news#751324 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28189&PID=751307&title=who-just-saw-the-news#751307 Author: freckle
Subject: 28189
Posted: 19 August 2009 at 10:58am

oh that's sad! it would be soooo hard to choose to selectively reduce IMO, even though it is obviously the best option... wonder how many embryos were implanted?]]> Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:58:31 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28189&PID=751307&title=who-just-saw-the-news#751307 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28189&PID=751300&title=who-just-saw-the-news#751300 Author: Bobbie
Subject: 28189
Posted: 19 August 2009 at 10:49am

haha North Africa/South America = same doesn't it? Oops! ]]> Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:49:26 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28189&PID=751300&title=who-just-saw-the-news#751300 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28189&PID=751123&title=who-just-saw-the-news#751123 Author: Emmi_
Subject: 28189
Posted: 18 August 2009 at 10:23pm

Here is an article about her/them. It says she is at least 16 weeks. It is nuts, she is nuts, her partner is nuts, the whole thing is nuts!
Very few of them will survive, apparently each baby has a 1 in 100 chance of survival... never mind the risks to her. ]]> Tue, 18 Aug 2009 22:23:40 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28189&PID=751123&title=who-just-saw-the-news#751123 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28189&PID=751114&title=who-just-saw-the-news#751114 Author: MissAngel
Subject: 28189
Posted: 18 August 2009 at 10:07pm

you just couldnt physically carry them to full term anyway.. I remember watching oprah (or dr phil) with a lady with 4 and the doctor said she would only be able to carry to 31 weeks - which she did.. so yea, mad.]]> Tue, 18 Aug 2009 22:07:05 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28189&PID=751114&title=who-just-saw-the-news#751114 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28189&PID=751091&title=who-just-saw-the-news#751091 Author: emz
Subject: 28189
Posted: 18 August 2009 at 9:46pm

It's ridiculous, people like that should be sterilised because clearly she's putting her own desires ahead of the well-being of her children (which yes, I agree, probably won't survive )]]> Tue, 18 Aug 2009 21:46:41 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28189&PID=751091&title=who-just-saw-the-news#751091 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28189&PID=751087&title=who-just-saw-the-news#751087 Author: Bobbie
Subject: 28189
Posted: 18 August 2009 at 9:42pm

I think this one is in Sth America though but I agree totally there need to be stricter controls. A very good example of medical science moving quicker than ethics.]]> Tue, 18 Aug 2009 21:42:09 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28189&PID=751087&title=who-just-saw-the-news#751087 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28189&PID=751036&title=who-just-saw-the-news#751036 Author: mummyofprinces
Subject: 28189
Posted: 18 August 2009 at 9:07pm

I just dont see how she can carry them. For goodness sake she is a human being not a dog!

I think this might end very sadly, i hope it doesnt, but I just cant see how her body will cope trying to grow 12 babies! Can you imagine how big she will be at 20 weeks let alone 30+ (mind you I have no idea how far along she is now...)

Something really needs to be done about the IVF regulations in the states, its ridiculous.]]> Tue, 18 Aug 2009 21:07:46 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28189&PID=751036&title=who-just-saw-the-news#751036 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28189&PID=750923&title=who-just-saw-the-news#750923 Author: FionaO
Subject: 28189
Posted: 18 August 2009 at 7:09pm

Argh this sort of thing is too annoying, that octomum was featured on Dr Phil for like weeks and they added up the cost of 8 and how many people it would take to care for them and it was loads and loads.

How can 12 kids be cared for equally, how could 1 mum ever dream of coping with that.

i can't help thinking its greedy but at what cost to those babies!]]> Tue, 18 Aug 2009 19:09:25 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28189&PID=750923&title=who-just-saw-the-news#750923 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28189&PID=750922&title=who-just-saw-the-news#750922 Author: fire_engine
Subject: 28189
Posted: 18 August 2009 at 7:09pm

They should never have implanted 12. In NZ they're reluctant to implant even 2 cos of the health risks and impact on the family. I can't believe they did that esp after Octomum as everyone has pointed out. It's not fair to the babies who sadly, are unlikely to survive and it's not fair to the mum who, IMHO, needs some serious help.]]> Tue, 18 Aug 2009 19:09:02 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28189&PID=750922&title=who-just-saw-the-news#750922 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28189&PID=750894&title=who-just-saw-the-news#750894 Author: Bobbie
Subject: 28189
Posted: 18 August 2009 at 6:53pm

Why are they still implanting so many embryos? That's so bloody irresponsible. Women are not meant to have litters.

It makes me so mad. The chances of any of those babies surviving is so small and I bet that she signed on knowing full well she wouldn't do selective reproduction. I think it's ethically wrong.]]> Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:53:37 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28189&PID=750894&title=who-just-saw-the-news#750894 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28189&PID=750884&title=who-just-saw-the-news#750884 Author: MissAngel
Subject: 28189
Posted: 18 August 2009 at 6:42pm

its scary too.. I mean, its awesome they've got preg thru IVF, but wouldnt you think a case like this would be a good candidate for selective reduction? ESPECIALLY because some/most of those babies wont survive? It would be a miracle if they did - but chances are they wont and it's sad. ]]> Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:42:24 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28189&PID=750884&title=who-just-saw-the-news#750884 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28189&PID=750882&title=who-just-saw-the-news#750882 Author: flakesitchyfeet
Subject: 28189
Posted: 18 August 2009 at 6:41pm

CRAZY!]]> Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:41:29 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28189&PID=750882&title=who-just-saw-the-news#750882 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28189&PID=750881&title=who-just-saw-the-news#750881 Author: cuppatea
Subject: 28189
Posted: 18 August 2009 at 6:41pm

I didn't see it, how far along was she? I would be surprised if she even carries them to term Did the fertility docs learn nothing after the whole octomum debacle.]]> Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:41:17 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28189&PID=750881&title=who-just-saw-the-news#750881 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28189&PID=750880&title=who-just-saw-the-news#750880 Author: james
Subject: 28189
Posted: 18 August 2009 at 6:39pm

yep i saw that too tottaly insane my mumreconks its nice ]]> Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:39:02 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28189&PID=750880&title=who-just-saw-the-news#750880 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28189&PID=750873&title=who-just-saw-the-news#750873 Author: MissAngel
Subject: 28189
Posted: 18 August 2009 at 6:35pm

Some woman in american is preg with 12... yes 12 babies and wants to deliver them naturally!?!? Got insane? Apparently the last person to deliver naturally with lots was 9 in 1970 something and they all died.. I think that's just irrisponsable. Still, I think having 12 is irrisponsable too.. ]]> Tue, 18 Aug 2009 18:35:07 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28189&PID=750873&title=who-just-saw-the-news#750873