https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Wed, 06 May 2026 06:13:40 +0000 Mon, 12 Oct 2009 17:04:36 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.05 360 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=29129 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_images/web_wiz_forums.png https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/ https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29129&PID=803752&title=babies-and-overseas-holidays#803752 Author: maysie
Subject: 29129
Posted: 12 October 2009 at 5:04pm

We've just come back from the UK and Japan with Lily (she was 13 mths) and the long haul flights were fine. I just fed on takeoff and as they began descent and she usually fell asleep straight away. The night flights were best. TBH, there isn't really much need to go premium economy because you get the bulkhead seats (bassinet) so you have the extra legroom and noone leaning back into you :) We never had to line up in any airports and we took our Milano stroller right up to the gates and they were waiting as we got off the plane. Tokyo (not sure about the rest of Japan) is an amazing place for parents as far as facilities go. I was very impressed!! I reckon it would be easier travelling on a plane with a baby who isn't 'moving' as they can happily lay in the bassinet playing. Lily was always wanting to be up and about and I couldn't really sleep when she did in case she woke up and climbed out of the bed I would totally recommend AirNZ and their new planes too. They have hanging bassinets which are higher than the old ones and are much more comfy for baby and easier for parents to move around. Plus we found AirNZ more accommodating with giving us a whole row to ourselves ]]> Mon, 12 Oct 2009 17:04:36 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29129&PID=803752&title=babies-and-overseas-holidays#803752 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29129&PID=803633&title=babies-and-overseas-holidays#803633 Author: gypsynita
Subject: 29129
Posted: 12 October 2009 at 3:35pm

re the stroller, we got a quicksmart stroller from the warehouse for $99 and it was absolutely worth it's weight in gold!! folded down super easy (and with hardly and practice) and so small you can actually take it as carry-on if you wanted to. was really quick for getting on and off public transport - i seriously can't recommend it enough! check them out here]]> Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15:35:31 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29129&PID=803633&title=babies-and-overseas-holidays#803633 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29129&PID=802019&title=babies-and-overseas-holidays#802019 Author: lizzle
Subject: 29129
Posted: 10 October 2009 at 4:27pm

if you do decide to go to japan, i used a website
www.tokyowithkids.co.nz

not sure if it is still going but they had a great site, in particular which stations had elevators.

Also, you can get a railpass which will save you heaps of money.

AND don't bother with disneyland (if you were that way inclined) - it's great , but not with a baby.

if you do go to japan, yell out. I lived there for several years and could give some advice about places to go with kids - our son lived there until he was a year old.]]> Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16:27:08 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29129&PID=802019&title=babies-and-overseas-holidays#802019 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29129&PID=802009&title=babies-and-overseas-holidays#802009 Author: Treen
Subject: 29129
Posted: 10 October 2009 at 4:07pm

Hey thanks heaps for all the wonderful advice, girls. I'm really glad to find out that most babies settle on long haul flights. And I will definitely get a front pack.

DH has now suggested we go through Europe again (yikes). Now I've just gotta find a light and ultra small push chair.]]> Sat, 10 Oct 2009 16:07:03 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29129&PID=802009&title=babies-and-overseas-holidays#802009 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29129&PID=801975&title=babies-and-overseas-holidays#801975 Author: ShellyBR
Subject: 29129
Posted: 10 October 2009 at 3:01pm

Treen I have done long haul with ds 3 times and by far the easiest was when he was 10weeks slept the whole way. I wouldn't worry about crying babies on planes most of them just sleep with the motion. A front pack or sling is invaluable and just feed on take off and landing or we found the dummy worked really well. you need to book your basinette when you book your ticket even if bubs isn't here yet. We had to do that with ds and the just booked him as baby whatever and then when he was born we had to just let them know his name. The biggest drama we had was getting his passport as it is nearly impossable to get a 2 week old to look at the camera and all the other stupid rules they have.]]> Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:01:10 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29129&PID=801975&title=babies-and-overseas-holidays#801975 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29129&PID=801676&title=babies-and-overseas-holidays#801676 Author: Hayzie
Subject: 29129
Posted: 09 October 2009 at 11:22pm

I flew business to Dubai with Logan when he was 5 weeks old. TBH - I wouldn't bother. The bassinette is great with a young baby. Would rather pay extra for a night flight. Amazing the differencethat makes. Generally babies are pretty well behaved on long flights (not just mine - I have noticed others too) I am sure the white noise settles them.

You may want to see what your baby is like. Logan is cruisy but if your bay really likes routine and is easily disturbed an overseas holiday may not be that relaxing. We have had several great holidays though. Had to - living in Armenia!! ]]> Fri, 09 Oct 2009 23:22:10 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29129&PID=801676&title=babies-and-overseas-holidays#801676 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29129&PID=801623&title=babies-and-overseas-holidays#801623 Author: scribe
Subject: 29129
Posted: 09 October 2009 at 10:07pm

I agree with Nikki that the younger they are the easier it is. We've only flown to Australia, but comparing the two trips, she was much much easier flying and travelling with at 3 months than she was at 13 months. At three months, she'd go to sleep anywhere (take a frontpack with a hood, in case you need her to sleep when you're out sightseeing) and the plane trip was a breeze - I planned the flight to coincide with her sleep time (for a long haul flight an overnight flight would probably be best), and after feeding on take off she went off to sleep... where as, on our last holiday to Australia, the flights were a nightmare as she wanted to be on the move all the time and got overtired but wouldn't sleep.]]> Fri, 09 Oct 2009 22:07:59 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29129&PID=801623&title=babies-and-overseas-holidays#801623 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29129&PID=801507&title=babies-and-overseas-holidays#801507 Author: Nikki
Subject: 29129
Posted: 09 October 2009 at 8:41pm

From someone who has really bad ears (I've burst an eardrum on a flight from chch!) the long haul are definitely not as bad, and its the landing that you really need to be feeding them cos thats when its worse.

I would wait til at least 3 months too if possible - but honestly the younger they are the easier it is .... once they're moving it is a pain being stuck on a plane. and would fly overnight if poss too so bubs will sleeps the whole way.]]> Fri, 09 Oct 2009 20:41:44 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29129&PID=801507&title=babies-and-overseas-holidays#801507 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29129&PID=801254&title=babies-and-overseas-holidays#801254 Author: Paws
Subject: 29129
Posted: 09 October 2009 at 5:10pm

I booked a lot of people into Premium Economy with the bubs...I don't think I booked people into Business class though...can't remember to be honest.]]> Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:10:26 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29129&PID=801254&title=babies-and-overseas-holidays#801254 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29129&PID=801068&title=babies-and-overseas-holidays#801068 Author: Treen
Subject: 29129
Posted: 09 October 2009 at 2:45pm

I like the sound of queue jumping, Anita!

I've been looking at the Air NZ website and I'm really liking the idea of flying Premium Economy. But then I worry about all the poor people who pay extra for a decent seat and then wind up having to put up with a crying baby.

Has anyone ever flown Premium Economy or Business Class with a baby or seen other babies in these classes?]]> Fri, 09 Oct 2009 14:45:29 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29129&PID=801068&title=babies-and-overseas-holidays#801068 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29129&PID=801026&title=babies-and-overseas-holidays#801026 Author: gypsynita
Subject: 29129
Posted: 09 October 2009 at 2:16pm

IMO if you're going to fly 9 hours, it doesn't make much difference to fly 12! We just got back from Canada and found that DS was heaps better on the overnight flights, even though they were twice as long (of course, having the bassinet helps too!). Fed on take-off and landing, or got him to suck his thumb, and had no problems. Crying wasn't so much of a problem as the fact that during the day flights he just couldn't sit still! If you're going to wait until bubs is up and about, be prepared for some bruises...

Flights aside, he adjusted really well to all the travelling and the time zones, we only had one or two nights of him being unsettled, and I think that was more because he picked up a staph infection somewhere along the way that was bugging him.

Plus, having a baby with you people tend to be really friendly and helpful - we got to jump queues alot (especially at the airport), and had no probs sticking to his routine or feeding him.]]> Fri, 09 Oct 2009 14:16:21 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29129&PID=801026&title=babies-and-overseas-holidays#801026 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29129&PID=794766&title=babies-and-overseas-holidays#794766 Author: FionaO
Subject: 29129
Posted: 03 October 2009 at 12:57pm

We had no issues with ears on the long distance flights cos you go up and down slowly, its the short internal flights were it can be bad, on flights to uk didn't need to feed on take off or landing at all.

]]> Sat, 03 Oct 2009 12:57:35 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29129&PID=794766&title=babies-and-overseas-holidays#794766 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29129&PID=794762&title=babies-and-overseas-holidays#794762 Author: lilfatty
Subject: 29129
Posted: 03 October 2009 at 12:47pm

Yep I fed Elias on take off and landing (he was probably more suckling than feeding though) otherwise if they take a dummy that would also work.

I would personally wait until after at least 12 weeks .. they start off sleeping nearly 20 hours a day .. then dont sleep at all my kids both "came right" around about three months and were in a much easier routine.]]> Sat, 03 Oct 2009 12:47:57 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29129&PID=794762&title=babies-and-overseas-holidays#794762 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29129&PID=794761&title=babies-and-overseas-holidays#794761 Author: tishy
Subject: 29129
Posted: 03 October 2009 at 12:47pm

San Fran is an option, because I know Air NZ fly out of Auckland at 7pm(ish). We flew to Ireland with 11 month twins last Xmas and they were asleep in their bassinets before dinner and slept straight through to after breakfast.

For takeoffs and landings we used the dummy and/or a sippy cup.
For the flight leaving Auckland we fed them their night time bottle and popped them into their bassinets once the seatbelt light went off.]]> Sat, 03 Oct 2009 12:47:48 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29129&PID=794761&title=babies-and-overseas-holidays#794761 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29129&PID=794760&title=babies-and-overseas-holidays#794760 Author: lilfatty
Subject: 29129
Posted: 03 October 2009 at 12:47pm

Yep I fed Elias on take off and landing (he was probably more suckling than feeding though) otherwise if they take a dummy that would also work.

I would personally wait until after at least 12 weeks .. they start off sleeping nearly 20 hours a day .. then dont sleep at all my kids both "came right" around about three months and were in a much easier routine.]]> Sat, 03 Oct 2009 12:47:46 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29129&PID=794760&title=babies-and-overseas-holidays#794760 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29129&PID=794697&title=babies-and-overseas-holidays#794697 Author: lemongirl
Subject: 29129
Posted: 03 October 2009 at 11:35am

I would also add that in Japan in particular you are likely to get lots of (mostly) positive attention from people with a western baby . Watch out for when you go as july/august tends to be rainy season.]]> Sat, 03 Oct 2009 11:35:42 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29129&PID=794697&title=babies-and-overseas-holidays#794697 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29129&PID=794585&title=babies-and-overseas-holidays#794585 Author: Treen
Subject: 29129
Posted: 03 October 2009 at 9:24am

Thanks MrsH23.]]> Sat, 03 Oct 2009 09:24:36 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29129&PID=794585&title=babies-and-overseas-holidays#794585 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29129&PID=794583&title=babies-and-overseas-holidays#794583 Author: MrsH23
Subject: 29129
Posted: 03 October 2009 at 9:23am

I've heard lots of Mummies around here say to feed during takeoff and landing to help with the ears.]]> Sat, 03 Oct 2009 09:23:07 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29129&PID=794583&title=babies-and-overseas-holidays#794583 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29129&PID=794581&title=babies-and-overseas-holidays#794581 Author: Treen
Subject: 29129
Posted: 03 October 2009 at 9:21am

Thanks girls. I'll leave it as late as I possibly can and perhaps do Japan rather than the States as at least that's just a nine hour flight. I'm also thinking of taking my sister as a nanny. That might make things a little more easy.

I don't suppose anyone's ever heard of a natural remedy for blocked ears for babies on planes? I'm guessing that's why they cry so much.]]> Sat, 03 Oct 2009 09:21:25 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29129&PID=794581&title=babies-and-overseas-holidays#794581 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29129&PID=794576&title=babies-and-overseas-holidays#794576 Author: FionaO
Subject: 29129
Posted: 03 October 2009 at 9:14am

I would think it would be fine.

In my humble opinion I would make sure bubs is at least 3 - 4 months old, just because the first 3 months are the hardest and they are the most unsettled and its just easier being at home.

we went on holiday when DS was 2 months old and I just hated it, it was hot, he was more unsettled and I just wanted to go home

But that is just us.

We went on holiday a long overseas trip at 8 months, I won't pretend the flights were easy but he settled really easily and we had a fantastic trip.

]]> Sat, 03 Oct 2009 09:14:15 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29129&PID=794576&title=babies-and-overseas-holidays#794576 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29129&PID=794544&title=babies-and-overseas-holidays#794544 Author: flakesitchyfeet
Subject: 29129
Posted: 03 October 2009 at 8:27am

I think it's entirely possible...but maybe somewhere closer, like Western or Southern Aussie, or the Islands? It might be less stressful for you that way.]]> Sat, 03 Oct 2009 08:27:00 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29129&PID=794544&title=babies-and-overseas-holidays#794544 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29129&PID=794448&title=babies-and-overseas-holidays#794448 Author: Treen
Subject: 29129
Posted: 02 October 2009 at 10:12pm

Hi girls,

DH and I were planning on going on a 2 week holiday next year to somewhere like the States or Japan. But those plans were before we got PG and now I'm not sure what to do. The nature of DH's job means that he works non-stop for 2 years then has 6 months off so he really deserves this holiday.

My EDD is 19 April 2010 and DH's contract should finish up in July. DH has asked me to start planning our trip but I'm not sure that's possible. How old would you recommend a child be before you can take them overseas? In terms of long haul flights and actually being able to enjoy yourself without being too sleep deprived or limited by feeds etc?

Edited by Treen]]> Fri, 02 Oct 2009 22:12:55 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29129&PID=794448&title=babies-and-overseas-holidays#794448