https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Wed, 06 May 2026 18:08:57 +0000 Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:50:51 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.05 360 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=29330 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_images/web_wiz_forums.png https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/ https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29330&PID=805676&title=clayton-weatherstone-is-appealing#805676 Author: lemongirl
Subject: 29330
Posted: 14 October 2009 at 10:50am

Seems like he'll gothe internet route]]> Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:50:51 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29330&PID=805676&title=clayton-weatherstone-is-appealing#805676 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29330&PID=805193&title=clayton-weatherstone-is-appealing#805193 Author: mamanee
Subject: 29330
Posted: 13 October 2009 at 8:21pm

Bobbie wrote: Of course he would - another 15 minutes of fame would be worth it for him. What a scumbag!

You're right on the money there.    Having extensively researched Narcissistic personality disorder (Sam's father has it, but is undiagnosed, which is really scary), this is exactly what Clayton Weatherston will continue to do.

Could negative input serve as Narcissistic Supply (NS)?

Answer:

Yes, it can. NS includes all forms of attention - both positive and negative: fame, notoriety, adulation, fear, applause, approval. Whenever the narcissist gets attention, positive or negative, whenever he is in the "limelight", it constitutes NS. If he can manipulate people or influence them – positively or negatively – it qualifies as NS.

Even quarrelling with people and confronting them constitute NS. Perhaps not the conflict itself, but the narcissist's ability to influence other people, to make them feel the way he wants, to manipulate them, to make them do something or refrain from doing it - all count as forms of narcissistic supply. Hence the phenomenon of "serial litigators".

Question:

Does the narcissist want to be liked?

Answer:

Would you wish to be liked by your television set? To the narcissist, people are mere tools, Sources of Supply. If, in order to secure this supply, he must be liked by them – he acts likable, helpful, collegial, and friendly. If the only way is to be feared – he makes sure they fear him. He does not really care either way as long as he is being attended to. Attention – whether in the form of fame or infamy – is what it's all about. His world revolves around this constant mirroring. I am seen therefore I exist, he thinks to himself.

But the classic narcissist also craves punishment. His actions are aimed to elicit social opprobrium and sanctions. His life is a Kafkaesque, ongoing trial and the never-ending proceedings are in themselves the punishment. Being penalized (reprimanded, incarcerated, abandoned) serves to vindicate and validate the internal damning voices of the narcissist's sadistic, ideal and immature Superego (really, the erstwhile voices of his parents or other caregivers). It confirms his worthlessness. It relieves him from the inner conflict he endures when he is successful: the conflict between the gnawing feelings of guilt, anxiety, and shame and the need to relentlessly secure Narcissistic Supply.

Question:

How does the narcissist treat his former Sources of Narcissistic Supply? Does he regard them as enemies?

Answer:

One should be careful not to romanticise the narcissist. His remorse and good behaviour are always linked to fears of losing his sources.

Narcissists have no enemies. They have only Sources of Narcissistic Supply. An enemy means attention means supply. One holds sway over one's enemy. If the narcissist has the power to provoke emotions in you, then you are still a Source of Supply to him, regardless of which emotions are provoked.

Because the case was so high profile, the media, the public, Sophie's family are ALL narcissistic supply to him and quietly sitting in jail wouldn't give him any supply, so appealing his conviction is EXACTLY what a person like that will do.

He's crazy.]]> Tue, 13 Oct 2009 20:21:15 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29330&PID=805193&title=clayton-weatherstone-is-appealing#805193 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29330&PID=805044&title=clayton-weatherstone-is-appealing#805044 Author: Bobbie
Subject: 29330
Posted: 13 October 2009 at 6:30pm

Of course he would - another 15 minutes of fame would be worth it for him.

What a scumbag! ]]> Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:30:45 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29330&PID=805044&title=clayton-weatherstone-is-appealing#805044 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29330&PID=804998&title=clayton-weatherstone-is-appealing#804998 Author: caitlynsmygirl
Subject: 29330
Posted: 13 October 2009 at 5:36pm

My friend got murdered three years ago , last week was the first anniversary since he got killed that we didn't have a courtcase looming over our heads, and the first year we could actually grieve for him without having to remember details of his death to say at court ...his killer appealed all the way right up to the highest court (he got denied, and now there is no higher he can go ...Thank God .)
So im very sympathetic to what Sophie's family is going through , instead of them having the chance to grieve for the child they lost, they have to worry about whether or not his appeal will go through , then the whole court case again ,her poor mother will probably be forced to do her witness statement again , and relive that nightmare (tho im sure she does every day anyway )
Its just awful , what a horrible man , hes already put that family through hell ,and this just shows he has NO remorse at all . ]]> Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:36:31 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29330&PID=804998&title=clayton-weatherstone-is-appealing#804998 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29330&PID=804984&title=clayton-weatherstone-is-appealing#804984 Author: Manda08
Subject: 29330
Posted: 13 October 2009 at 5:25pm

I totally agree with you Bex!!! Total scum he is! ]]> Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:25:41 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29330&PID=804984&title=clayton-weatherstone-is-appealing#804984 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29330&PID=804961&title=clayton-weatherstone-is-appealing#804961 Author: MamaT
Subject: 29330
Posted: 13 October 2009 at 5:12pm

Disgusting!!!! The guy infuriates me, as well as most of the world I'd say ]]> Tue, 13 Oct 2009 17:12:42 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29330&PID=804961&title=clayton-weatherstone-is-appealing#804961 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29330&PID=804944&title=clayton-weatherstone-is-appealing#804944 Author: Paws
Subject: 29330
Posted: 13 October 2009 at 4:58pm

Hope he appeals and gets longer. ]]> Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:58:53 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29330&PID=804944&title=clayton-weatherstone-is-appealing#804944 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29330&PID=804937&title=clayton-weatherstone-is-appealing#804937 Author: Lexidore
Subject: 29330
Posted: 13 October 2009 at 4:55pm

Just my opinion obviously but I don't see why he should appeal, Its not like Sophie gets another chance at her life so why the heck should he, Theres no doubt he killed her and I don't see how someone could provoke you to kill them in such an inhumane way anyways... so whether he was provoked or not shouldn't matter. I stand by my initial statement He should rot in hell!]]> Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:55:28 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29330&PID=804937&title=clayton-weatherstone-is-appealing#804937 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29330&PID=804926&title=clayton-weatherstone-is-appealing#804926 Author: ElfsMum
Subject: 29330
Posted: 13 October 2009 at 4:51pm

i dont think he should appeal either.. i dont get why he or anyone else who is like him should have the right too.. but anyway i hope they give him longer.. ]]> Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:51:10 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29330&PID=804926&title=clayton-weatherstone-is-appealing#804926 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29330&PID=804888&title=clayton-weatherstone-is-appealing#804888 Author: lizzle
Subject: 29330
Posted: 13 October 2009 at 4:26pm

gee, i misread that initially and thought you FOUND him appealing (as in, appeals to you)....had to read to see why]]> Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:26:30 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29330&PID=804888&title=clayton-weatherstone-is-appealing#804888 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29330&PID=804874&title=clayton-weatherstone-is-appealing#804874 Author: lemongirl
Subject: 29330
Posted: 13 October 2009 at 4:15pm

Much as I would like to see that guy go down, he does have a right to justice just as you or I should we be accused of a crime. I suppose that's the problem with principles though, they only mean something when they are inconvient.]]> Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:15:08 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29330&PID=804874&title=clayton-weatherstone-is-appealing#804874 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29330&PID=804867&title=clayton-weatherstone-is-appealing#804867 Author: Lexidore
Subject: 29330
Posted: 13 October 2009 at 4:09pm

I was just about to start a thread about this after seeing it on Stuff, really pisses me off!!! That guy deserves to rot in hell! GRRRRR ]]> Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:09:31 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29330&PID=804867&title=clayton-weatherstone-is-appealing#804867 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29330&PID=804852&title=clayton-weatherstone-is-appealing#804852 Author: Candkids
Subject: 29330
Posted: 13 October 2009 at 3:53pm

aghh even his name makes me angry, people who commit crimes like that should never be allowd to appeal ]]> Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:53:23 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29330&PID=804852&title=clayton-weatherstone-is-appealing#804852 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29330&PID=804821&title=clayton-weatherstone-is-appealing#804821 Author: lemongirl
Subject: 29330
Posted: 13 October 2009 at 3:26pm

While the most obvious one would have been all the online stuff about him which may have prejudiced the jury. But I'm sure there's something, people with personality disorders are very adept at blaming others for their own misfourtunes. ]]> Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:26:24 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29330&PID=804821&title=clayton-weatherstone-is-appealing#804821 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29330&PID=804796&title=clayton-weatherstone-is-appealing#804796 Author: AzzaNZ
Subject: 29330
Posted: 13 October 2009 at 3:15pm

On what grounds? That is infuriating!]]> Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:15:35 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29330&PID=804796&title=clayton-weatherstone-is-appealing#804796 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29330&PID=804782&title=clayton-weatherstone-is-appealing#804782 Author: lemongirl
Subject: 29330
Posted: 13 October 2009 at 3:03pm

Crap.

I know he has the right to do so, but I do feel for the parents of Sophie Elliot having to be put through yet another ordeal. ]]> Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:03:36 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29330&PID=804782&title=clayton-weatherstone-is-appealing#804782