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Posted: 17 November 2009 at 10:51am

Thanks blondy. Specialist probably has more weight than GP! Will still give it a go. Picking up form today and making doc appt for this week. I'll ask her about doing some allergy tests too but since its mainly behavioural I don't know how they'll prioritise us. Our GP is awesome but the hospital system that everything goes through sucks carrots

I hope Natalie gets through the imms with little to no reaction!!! I'm glad shes doing better that must be a relief for you ]]> Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:51:21 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29919&PID=841466&title=food-allergy-affecting-sleep#841466 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29919&PID=841334&title=food-allergy-affecting-sleep#841334 Author: blondy
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Posted: 17 November 2009 at 9:31am

Interesting about the CDA - we're still getting it for Natalie (dairy, egg, cat & dog allergies). We did get our specialist rather than GP to fill out, but don't know if that makes any difference.

Re: the sleeping issues, we had major issues for several months with Nat (i.e. most nights she would only sleep on us in a propped up position), but for us it was directly caused by the nasal congestion she had from her food allergies, rather than her not wanting to go to sleep. Most nights she was just so exhausted and would drop off, but would wake every 10mins because she couldn't breathe

She now sleeps close to 12 hours through at night, and although she still wakes/cries out briefly most nights at least once, she always self-settles and goes back to sleep (we just leave her to it).

I know how awful it is to have sleeping dramas, especially when they had been good sleepers!

I'm now dreading getting the 15 month imms done due to the lactose/egg albumin content in them (but I am pro-vaccination, so will get them done eventually ).

Really hope the elimination diet helps Jake soon ]]> Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:31:11 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29919&PID=841334&title=food-allergy-affecting-sleep#841334 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29919&PID=841245&title=food-allergy-affecting-sleep#841245 Author: Babe
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Posted: 17 November 2009 at 8:30am

Oh wow that totally sucks about the CDA theres more on the market for special diets but still blardy expensive!!!]]> Tue, 17 Nov 2009 08:30:47 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29919&PID=841245&title=food-allergy-affecting-sleep#841245 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29919&PID=841020&title=food-allergy-affecting-sleep#841020 Author: cuppatea
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Posted: 16 November 2009 at 9:09pm

or sit next to bed no eye contact or interaction till they go to sleep, sometimes I do this with Spence, just stops him getting out of bedd long enough for him to actually settle down, I don't always stick around till he is asleep.

CDA has been revised, is no longer given for allergies unless very severe, ours was revoked and Spencer has been tested and is allergic to dairy egg and peanuts. Our gp renewed it but winz said no, my friend had same happen with hers.

Gluten is known to cause behavioural problems in intolerant children, they can blood test for it]]> Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:09:50 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29919&PID=841020&title=food-allergy-affecting-sleep#841020 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29919&PID=840840&title=food-allergy-affecting-sleep#840840 Author: AandCsmum
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Posted: 16 November 2009 at 7:51pm

Put them to bed the first time, all the stories, cuddles, kisses etc. Then say goodnight sleep time & leave the room.

First time he gets up, take him straight back to bed & put him in & say goodnight it's sleep time & again leave the room.

For the next 10 or so times just take him straight back & put to bed, no talking on yoor behalf. He will eventually go to sleep.]]> Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:51:24 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29919&PID=840840&title=food-allergy-affecting-sleep#840840 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29919&PID=840604&title=food-allergy-affecting-sleep#840604 Author: Babe
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Posted: 16 November 2009 at 5:16pm

Yeah someone else mentioned their baby was sick which set off intolerances was it noisybaby?

OK dairy is out then so better get down to Docs to get CDA back up and running. Got abit lax and didn't renew it in July. Gluten will be pretty easy coz I already use alot of gluten free grains like buckwheat and millet and low gluten grains like spelt.

Whats the supernanny bedtime approach? Had blank OMG 6 - 8 I remember what thats like! Jake use to sleep like that ]]> Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:16:14 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29919&PID=840604&title=food-allergy-affecting-sleep#840604 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29919&PID=840499&title=food-allergy-affecting-sleep#840499 Author: AandCsmum
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Posted: 16 November 2009 at 4:17pm

If it makes you feel better, Alia can do 6pm to 8am now I found the supernanny bedtime approach worked well but usually only at night.

I'd remove dairy completely before I'd remove gluten. Just reduce high wheat content products first.

I swear Alia's intolerances stepped up after she had a really bad dose of the chicken pox.]]> Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:17:06 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29919&PID=840499&title=food-allergy-affecting-sleep#840499 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29919&PID=840288&title=food-allergy-affecting-sleep#840288 Author: Babe
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Posted: 16 November 2009 at 2:37pm

Kel after I ended up crying on the floor outside his room and he ended up stuck upside down between his reading chair and the window I just got him up. Hes tucked up on the couch with his pillow and a blanket watching a quiet dvd. I'll keep the baking soda in mind for tomorrow

Noisy baby I think you might be right - I'm going to start by removing all gluten and dairy from his diet along with food high in salicylates (got your email thanks Kel) and go from there. None of us are coping well at all with his disturbed sleep patterns.]]> Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:37:07 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29919&PID=840288&title=food-allergy-affecting-sleep#840288 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29919&PID=840227&title=food-allergy-affecting-sleep#840227 Author: noisybaby
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Posted: 16 November 2009 at 2:05pm

My wee girl had a bout of a gastro bug about 2-3 months ago and has only sort of come right now. We took her off normal formula and gave her soy and gave her gluten free products also. No dairy, gluten or wholegrains an it seems to have made a difference. I read somewhere(sorry can't remember where, baby brain) but after a tummy infection etc some babies can develop a intolerance to lactose hence why we changed our girls diet.
Sorry I cant be much more help but maybe see a dietition/nutritionist or who ever it is you see to figure out if he has a intolerance to anything else.

Good luck!!]]> Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:05:46 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29919&PID=840227&title=food-allergy-affecting-sleep#840227 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29919&PID=840213&title=food-allergy-affecting-sleep#840213 Author: AandCsmum
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Posted: 16 November 2009 at 1:57pm

Give him a pinch of baking soda in water, so it tastes kinda sweet. If he's having a reaction to food & his tum is gassy this will help.

The going back in silently & plonking back in bed will work the best, although tiring for you]]> Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:57:13 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29919&PID=840213&title=food-allergy-affecting-sleep#840213 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29919&PID=840111&title=food-allergy-affecting-sleep#840111 Author: Babe
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Posted: 16 November 2009 at 1:11pm



He's doing it again!!!!! Absolutely exhausted, rubbing his eyes but refusing to sleep the bloody-minded little toerag!!!!! I'm so tired I just want to sit down with a cuppa and have a doze myself but nooooo the noises coming from his bedroom are keeping me totally wound up! I've been going in there and putting him back to bed without saying anything, I've yelled at him and OMG I even gave him a spank but nothing is working whats going on???!!! His eyes have black circles underneath them, he's yawning and everything!!!]]> Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:11:26 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29919&PID=840111&title=food-allergy-affecting-sleep#840111 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29919&PID=839894&title=food-allergy-affecting-sleep#839894 Author: AandCsmum
Subject: 29919
Posted: 16 November 2009 at 10:28am

I have the paed appointment tomorrow at 9am & have no idea how long I'll be up there so if my car is home I'll be here LOL]]> Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:28:35 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29919&PID=839894&title=food-allergy-affecting-sleep#839894 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29919&PID=839886&title=food-allergy-affecting-sleep#839886 Author: LittleBug
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Posted: 16 November 2009 at 10:19am

Sounds like what lactose intolerance does to my friend, maybe it affects toddlers a bit different to babies? Not sure... hmm. You have to be careful eliminating dairy from the diet, make sure you give him lots of other stuff with calcium in it! Although most lactose intolerant kids can have a bit of cheese or yoghurt, but severe cases have to avoid everything dairy.

If you've already cut dairy out though, I'm not really sure. What was the other thing you changed recently... egg? Maybe you could try cutting egg out for a while and see if that helps?

It sucks not knowing what's affecting your child ]]> Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:19:57 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29919&PID=839886&title=food-allergy-affecting-sleep#839886 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29919&PID=839865&title=food-allergy-affecting-sleep#839865 Author: Babe
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Posted: 16 November 2009 at 10:08am

LOL hi Kel hoped you pop in! I'm up either tomorrow or wednesday - havta remember when my physio is so will stop in then. Facebooking you now...]]> Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:08:06 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29919&PID=839865&title=food-allergy-affecting-sleep#839865 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29919&PID=839855&title=food-allergy-affecting-sleep#839855 Author: AandCsmum
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Posted: 16 November 2009 at 10:02am

PM me your email or send it through on facebook & I'll send you a copy of the Salicylate list I have. ]]> Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:02:34 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29919&PID=839855&title=food-allergy-affecting-sleep#839855 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29919&PID=839852&title=food-allergy-affecting-sleep#839852 Author: AandCsmum
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Posted: 16 November 2009 at 9:58am

HELL YES.....

Stop in & see me if you are up this way.]]> Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:58:39 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29919&PID=839852&title=food-allergy-affecting-sleep#839852 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29919&PID=839843&title=food-allergy-affecting-sleep#839843 Author: Babe
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Posted: 16 November 2009 at 9:54am

Well he was lactose or dairy intolerant for sure coz he'd vomit and cramp up and scream for ages but since we'd taken him off everything when they did the tests it was all negative so we weren;t able to find out exactly what was happening. Well we could've fed him dairy and redone the tests but I wasn't up to dealing with his reaction and our doc still put through the CDA so didn't seem much point!
He's on lactose free milk what little he has of it and we had kept him off all diary but we've been slowly letting him have abit of cheese. I've taken it out of his diet now but hasn't made any kind of difference as yet he isn't displaying the same symptoms as he use to either - no reflux, not vomitting, etc.
Do you think maybe his system has changed?]]> Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:54:28 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29919&PID=839843&title=food-allergy-affecting-sleep#839843 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29919&PID=839831&title=food-allergy-affecting-sleep#839831 Author: LittleBug
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Posted: 16 November 2009 at 9:47am

He wouldn't be lactose intolerant or anything, would he?]]> Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:47:22 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29919&PID=839831&title=food-allergy-affecting-sleep#839831 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29919&PID=839798&title=food-allergy-affecting-sleep#839798 Author: Babe
Subject: 29919
Posted: 16 November 2009 at 9:23am

Its frustrating ae Piper??!!! TBH I don't know what it could be. I thought of food first because nothing else is different! Doing my head in is so spot on hope this thread helps you too!

He eats about half an hour before his nap and an hour to an hour and a half before bedtime but we've always eaten at those times so not sure if its the culprit. I'll keep an eye on it though.

Not sure about too much fibre ok uhm heres a quick idea of our daily eats:
Breakfast - Porridge w sultanas (crepes on weekends)
Lunch - Boiled eggs, trail mix (dried fruits that I mix up), piece of baking (made with different grains and fruit), half homemade tortilla w melted cheese and marmite, piece of fruit
Afternoon tea - piece of baking or piece of fruit
Dinner - well tonight we're having pumpkin curry w rice and homemade garlic naan bread otherwise it might be meat/beans, lots of veges and some kind of 'bread' i.e tortillas, naan, garlic bread, OR rice/quinoa, etc.

Our diet hasn't changed as much as I though it had now I've written it down lol I guess I'm just experimenting more with the grains - otherwise its how we've always eaten. Its mainly cheese and eggs we eat more of now.

Aethalia thankyou so much for that link I was trying to find it the other day!! Its a great site isn't it?!
I'm ADHD and so is Jake (hereditary in my family) so I'm familiar with alot of the food additives but as far as I can tell we've cut out all that stuff which means it could be a particular type of food right? Arrrghhh!!!! That I'm not so familiar with!!

Anyway thanks for the posts keep-em coming I really appreciate all the suggestions and ideas!!!]]> Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:23:54 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29919&PID=839798&title=food-allergy-affecting-sleep#839798 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29919&PID=839699&title=food-allergy-affecting-sleep#839699 Author: peanut butter
Subject: 29919
Posted: 16 November 2009 at 7:44am

babe,,,Tom is doing the same thing! I hadnt thought of food as a cause but its doing my head in!]]> Mon, 16 Nov 2009 07:44:58 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29919&PID=839699&title=food-allergy-affecting-sleep#839699 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29919&PID=839599&title=food-allergy-affecting-sleep#839599 Author: Nothing
Subject: 29919
Posted: 15 November 2009 at 9:33pm

i found this website a while back, it has heaps of great info on what foods to avoid, the most amazing thing that i found out was that mint flavoured toothpaste can have big consiquences on their behaviour!

http://www.fedupwithfoodadditives.info/index.htm#buttons

I hope this helps :)]]> Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:33:46 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29919&PID=839599&title=food-allergy-affecting-sleep#839599 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29919&PID=839164&title=food-allergy-affecting-sleep#839164 Author: noisybaby
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Posted: 15 November 2009 at 5:08pm

Its not too high in fibre for him? It seems like a lot of fibre to me from the grains and fruit. That would cause his poos to be runnyish too. Maybe consult a nutritionist?? Dried fruit and fresh fruit is high in sugar too. Could it be hes eating too much too close to bed time. The grains also are low GI so could be releasing their energy for longer also. ]]> Sun, 15 Nov 2009 17:08:43 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29919&PID=839164&title=food-allergy-affecting-sleep#839164 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29919&PID=838801&title=food-allergy-affecting-sleep#838801 Author: Babe
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Posted: 15 November 2009 at 9:21am

What foods upset Ellas tummy?]]> Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:21:22 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29919&PID=838801&title=food-allergy-affecting-sleep#838801 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29919&PID=838606&title=food-allergy-affecting-sleep#838606 Author: Babe
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Posted: 14 November 2009 at 9:17pm

Anyone know of any food allergies that could be affecting Jakes sleep? Our diet has changed a fair bit over this pregnancy and we've found his sleep has gotten progressively worse.

He had about 3 months of runny stinky nappies almost constantly but the doc said it was an intestinal infection (could it have possibly been a reaction?) and now his sleep is awful. Its not that he doesn't want to sleep - the poor little guy gets exhausted but he seems incapable of winding himself down. Since hes been a great sleeper and awesome at self-settling since he was a newborn me and DP are fairly sure it isn't a phase.

He eats alot of eggs, grains (millet muffins, spelt pancakes, wholegrain tortillas, quinoa, etc all homemade stuff), no dairy except cheese and thats only become part of his diet in the last few months so we're wondering if it may be affecting him. No junk food, no excess sugar, nothing processed. He loves dried and fresh fruit too.

We put him on a modified elimination diet and noticed that too many particular salicylates (i.e too many apples with skin on) made him abit aggro. We want to try cutting other stuff out but I'm finding it hard to find the info I need ATM. My head just isn't cooperating so we thought maybe some of you mummies with allergy-prone kids might be able to suggest some things we could try?

Hope this makes sense. Of course if your 2 and a half year old suddenly decided he could exist on a max of 8 hours of sleep yet spent all day in a half-asleep daze please let me know coz we may be wrong and it may be an age thing either way we need some help coz hes running himself ragged!]]> Sat, 14 Nov 2009 21:17:18 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29919&PID=838606&title=food-allergy-affecting-sleep#838606