https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Wed, 06 May 2026 05:49:42 +0000 Mon, 25 Jan 2010 18:48:15 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.05 360 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=31103 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_images/web_wiz_forums.png https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/ https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=910427&title=house-of-pox#910427 Author: WestiesGirl
Subject: 31103
Posted: 25 January 2010 at 6:48pm

Jackson has had a low grade temp for a few days now. Nothing thats worrying us at this stage and its not been over 37.5 degrees. Should we just keep monitoring it and giving paracetamol or see the Dr? He is generally ok aside from normal pox grumpiness.]]> Mon, 25 Jan 2010 18:48:15 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=910427&title=house-of-pox#910427 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=909224&title=house-of-pox#909224 Author: Bizzy
Subject: 31103
Posted: 25 January 2010 at 9:34am

yep gabriel has a temperature.   Hes just now got out of bed, and so far seems in good spirits though!]]> Mon, 25 Jan 2010 09:34:04 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=909224&title=house-of-pox#909224 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=909190&title=house-of-pox#909190 Author: Bobbie
Subject: 31103
Posted: 25 January 2010 at 9:15am

Oh poor Gabriel Has he managed to avoid the temps?
Still as you say, at least it's going to be all over soon. Would be worse if you had to wait for Eden to catch it from Gabriel and it was drawn out even longer.]]> Mon, 25 Jan 2010 09:15:29 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=909190&title=house-of-pox#909190 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=909079&title=house-of-pox#909079 Author: Bizzy
Subject: 31103
Posted: 25 January 2010 at 7:47am

Poor gabriel has it much worse than his brother did. His poor face is very spotty, and he has bloodshot eyes too.

And i think i saw a spot on Eden last night too, so that will be all of them done and dusted for the pox!]]> Mon, 25 Jan 2010 07:47:54 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=909079&title=house-of-pox#909079 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=908960&title=house-of-pox#908960 Author: Bobbie
Subject: 31103
Posted: 24 January 2010 at 9:53pm

Star you have to pay here. It's about $90 and you need to let them know ahead of time as some clinics don't keep it on hand due to the short shelf life.
]]> Sun, 24 Jan 2010 21:53:58 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=908960&title=house-of-pox#908960 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=908869&title=house-of-pox#908869 Author: jaz
Subject: 31103
Posted: 24 January 2010 at 9:14pm

Both my kids have had the pox but I haven't. Seeing as how I 'nursed' them through it I suspect I have a natural immunity. Still, not willing to take any chances so I'll give you a wide berth atm Deb. ]]> Sun, 24 Jan 2010 21:14:54 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=908869&title=house-of-pox#908869 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=907921&title=house-of-pox#907921 Author: WestiesGirl
Subject: 31103
Posted: 23 January 2010 at 10:58pm

Thaks for all the info ladies. ]]> Sat, 23 Jan 2010 22:58:24 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=907921&title=house-of-pox#907921 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=907889&title=house-of-pox#907889 Author: pikelets
Subject: 31103
Posted: 23 January 2010 at 10:20pm

Is it free here or do we have to pay?? Im confused.

I hadn't even thought about giving DS the vacine but now Im not so sure

]]> Sat, 23 Jan 2010 22:20:02 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=907889&title=house-of-pox#907889 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=907877&title=house-of-pox#907877 Author: blondy
Subject: 31103
Posted: 23 January 2010 at 10:11pm

Really interesting to hear about that research. Thanks for the link Kellie And it will be interesting too to see whether the incidence of shingles does increase - I guess the US and Aussie will show us, as they both have more or less compulsory vaccination including the CP vaccine. ]]> Sat, 23 Jan 2010 22:11:55 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=907877&title=house-of-pox#907877 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=907856&title=house-of-pox#907856 Author: Bobbie
Subject: 31103
Posted: 23 January 2010 at 10:00pm

Yep I did some research too and they do think that as more of the younger population gets immunised more of the older population will get shingles. They're actually working on a shingles vaccine (in the states I think) because of it.

Kellie I knew what you meant - it's a good point.

ETA: By random coincidence I happened to be flicking through an old Aussie WW today and there was an article on the CP vaccine and it did say the older kids only got the vaccine if they hadn't been vaccinated before AND hadn't got the virus.

Edited by Bobbie]]> Sat, 23 Jan 2010 22:00:19 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=907856&title=house-of-pox#907856 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=907758&title=house-of-pox#907758 Author: kellie
Subject: 31103
Posted: 23 January 2010 at 9:23pm

blondy wrote: kellie wrote: Generally shingles occurs in people (altready infected with the varicella zoster virus - aka CP/shingles virus) that have weakened immune systems. Exposure to more CP might boost your immune response slightly, but I don't know if it would prevent a shingles outbreak/recurrence? Sometimes the VZV vaccine can be given post-CP exposure to lessen the severity of the disease. Here is a link about that.

I had heard from a few sources that exposure to cp may help to prevent shingles in later life
Quote from this page link
"Shingles is caused by reactivation of latent varicella zoster virus, which is thought to occur when specific cell mediated immunity declines. The lifetime risk of shingles is 10%–30% and increases with age, affecting up to half of people who live to 85 years. We know that exposure to chickenpox can significantly prevent or delay shingles (by exogenous boosting of immunity).6 Increased annual chickenpox rates in children under 5 are associated with reduced shingles in the 15–44 age group. Having a child in the household reduced the risk of shingles for about 20 years, the more contact with children the better, and general practitioners and paediatricians have a statistically significant lowering of risk,7 possibly because of their contact with sick children (teachers did not have a significantly reduced rate).8,9"]]> Sat, 23 Jan 2010 21:23:18 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=907758&title=house-of-pox#907758 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=907739&title=house-of-pox#907739 Author: blondy
Subject: 31103
Posted: 23 January 2010 at 9:17pm

kellie wrote: Hehe, I mean the PARENT needs to go to the parties...as most of us have had chickenpox, and now with all our kiddies getting vaxxed we won't be exposed to it, thus increasing instances of shingles in our generation.

Generally shingles occurs in people (altready infected with the varicella zoster virus - aka CP/shingles virus) that have weakened immune systems. Exposure to more CP might boost your immune response slightly, but I don't know if it would prevent a shingles outbreak/recurrence?

Sometimes the VZV vaccine can be given post-CP exposure to lessen the severity of the disease. Here is a link about that. ]]> Sat, 23 Jan 2010 21:17:37 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=907739&title=house-of-pox#907739 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=907720&title=house-of-pox#907720 Author: kellie
Subject: 31103
Posted: 23 January 2010 at 9:11pm

]]> Sat, 23 Jan 2010 21:11:55 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=907720&title=house-of-pox#907720 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=907713&title=house-of-pox#907713 Author: Maya
Subject: 31103
Posted: 23 January 2010 at 9:09pm

Snap lol!]]> Sat, 23 Jan 2010 21:09:52 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=907713&title=house-of-pox#907713 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=907712&title=house-of-pox#907712 Author: Maya
Subject: 31103
Posted: 23 January 2010 at 9:09pm

Oh I see what you mean, the *parents* should expose themselves to the pox. Sorry, misread that. ]]> Sat, 23 Jan 2010 21:09:34 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=907712&title=house-of-pox#907712 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=907707&title=house-of-pox#907707 Author: kellie
Subject: 31103
Posted: 23 January 2010 at 9:08pm

Maya wrote: But if the child has been vaccinated against pox, they also won't get shingles - both are caused by the same virus.

Hehe, I mean the PARENT needs to go to the parties...as most of us have had chickenpox, and now with all our kiddies getting vaxxed we won't be exposed to it, thus increasing instances of shingles in our generation.

]]> Sat, 23 Jan 2010 21:08:20 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=907707&title=house-of-pox#907707 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=907698&title=house-of-pox#907698 Author: Maya
Subject: 31103
Posted: 23 January 2010 at 9:05pm

But if the child has been vaccinated against pox, they also won't get shingles - both are caused by the same virus. ]]> Sat, 23 Jan 2010 21:05:33 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=907698&title=house-of-pox#907698 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=907694&title=house-of-pox#907694 Author: kellie
Subject: 31103
Posted: 23 January 2010 at 9:03pm

Maya wrote: Oh dear Bizzy . 2 down, one to go huh? We'll come visit, pox don't scare us (anymore )... kellie wrote: Make sure you take yourself to some chicken pox parties then if you vaccinate your kiddies for CP. The best way to avoid shingles is exposure to CP. That's not the case, once you've had chicken pox, the virus lies dormant and can present as shingles at any given stage in the future. If you've been vaccinated against the virus (varicella zoster) then you won't develop chicken pox or shingles. That's assuming the vaccine is effective, I'm not sure what % of people contract the virus after vaccination, but I do know that when the vaccine was added to the schedule in Australia, chicken pox rates dropped dramatically. Rianna08 - yep, that's normal unfortunately . My older three had all their spots by about day 3, but lil miss had a cracker of a dose and was still getting new spots after a week. She ended up in hospital as we couldn't get her temp down and the doc there said it can take as long as 10 days for all the spots to come out .

I meant if you vaccinate your kiddies, the parent of the vaxxed kids should go to the parties, as the best way to help prevent shingles reappearing in later life is exposure to others with CP :)
Unfortunately I have become a bit of an expert on shingles lately, I have just recovered from a rather severe dose of them.

Edited by kellie]]> Sat, 23 Jan 2010 21:03:33 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=907694&title=house-of-pox#907694 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=907654&title=house-of-pox#907654 Author: Maya
Subject: 31103
Posted: 23 January 2010 at 8:46pm

Oh dear Bizzy . 2 down, one to go huh? We'll come visit, pox don't scare us (anymore )...

kellie wrote: Make sure you take yourself to some chicken pox parties then if you vaccinate your kiddies for CP. The best way to avoid shingles is exposure to CP.

That's not the case, once you've had chicken pox, the virus lies dormant and can present as shingles at any given stage in the future. If you've been vaccinated against the virus (varicella zoster) then you won't develop chicken pox or shingles. That's assuming the vaccine is effective, I'm not sure what % of people contract the virus after vaccination, but I do know that when the vaccine was added to the schedule in Australia, chicken pox rates dropped dramatically.


Rianna08 - yep, that's normal unfortunately . My older three had all their spots by about day 3, but lil miss had a cracker of a dose and was still getting new spots after a week. She ended up in hospital as we couldn't get her temp down and the doc there said it can take as long as 10 days for all the spots to come out .

]]> Sat, 23 Jan 2010 20:46:16 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=907654&title=house-of-pox#907654 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=907262&title=house-of-pox#907262 Author: WestiesGirl
Subject: 31103
Posted: 23 January 2010 at 4:15pm

Yeah he's getting there Just time and keeping an eye on him.]]> Sat, 23 Jan 2010 16:15:04 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=907262&title=house-of-pox#907262 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=907235&title=house-of-pox#907235 Author: kellie
Subject: 31103
Posted: 23 January 2010 at 3:34pm

rianna08 wrote: Hmm good to know, thanks. Will have another chat to the Dr about it.

No problem
I hope your little man is doing okay ]]> Sat, 23 Jan 2010 15:34:26 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=907235&title=house-of-pox#907235 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=907231&title=house-of-pox#907231 Author: WestiesGirl
Subject: 31103
Posted: 23 January 2010 at 3:28pm

Hmm good to know, thanks. Will have another chat to the Dr about it.]]> Sat, 23 Jan 2010 15:28:12 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=907231&title=house-of-pox#907231 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=907228&title=house-of-pox#907228 Author: kellie
Subject: 31103
Posted: 23 January 2010 at 3:25pm

rianna08 wrote: The Dr said that its still advisable to vaccinate. Albiet we didnt think to question him cos we were preoccupied with Jackson and his pox, so not sure of his reasoning behind it.

On the immunise.health.gov.au site it says
"This Program commenced on 1 November 2005. It provides free varicella vaccine for all children at 18 months of age and a catch-up program for children aged 10-13 years who have not received varicella vaccine or who have not had the disease."

Im not 100% if that reads as only the 10-13yrs who have not had the disease, or everyone.]]> Sat, 23 Jan 2010 15:25:20 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=907228&title=house-of-pox#907228 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=907226&title=house-of-pox#907226 Author: WestiesGirl
Subject: 31103
Posted: 23 January 2010 at 3:22pm

The Dr said that its still advisable to vaccinate. Albiet we didnt think to question him cos we were preoccupied with Jackson and his pox, so not sure of his reasoning behind it.]]> Sat, 23 Jan 2010 15:22:02 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=907226&title=house-of-pox#907226 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=907221&title=house-of-pox#907221 Author: kellie
Subject: 31103
Posted: 23 January 2010 at 3:17pm

rianna08 wrote: Yep its done at 18 months old. Even though Jackson has them we will still get him vaccinated Were up to day 5 now and we are still finding new spots coming up. Is that normal??

How come you are going to get him vaxed when he has already had them? I doubt he will be eligible, and as CP stays in the body forever, the vax will just add to that

Edited by kellie]]> Sat, 23 Jan 2010 15:17:23 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=907221&title=house-of-pox#907221 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=907219&title=house-of-pox#907219 Author: WestiesGirl
Subject: 31103
Posted: 23 January 2010 at 3:10pm

Aliasmum wrote: In australia they vax against CP as a standard vax.

Yep its done at 18 months old. Even though Jackson has them we will still get him vaccinated

Were up to day 5 now and we are still finding new spots coming up. Is that normal??]]> Sat, 23 Jan 2010 15:10:44 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=907219&title=house-of-pox#907219 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=907101&title=house-of-pox#907101 Author: emz
Subject: 31103
Posted: 23 January 2010 at 12:28pm

Oh I feel for you Bizzy!

We were hoping the kids got them from DC before I started back at work but alas no. So fingers crossed when they do get them it's during school holidays ]]> Sat, 23 Jan 2010 12:28:21 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=907101&title=house-of-pox#907101 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=906901&title=house-of-pox#906901 Author: kellie
Subject: 31103
Posted: 23 January 2010 at 9:23am

Make sure you take yourself to some chicken pox parties then if you vaccinate your kiddies for CP. The best way to avoid shingles is exposure to CP.

You also need to get a booster vax for cp after a couple of years.

Edited by kellie]]> Sat, 23 Jan 2010 09:23:14 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=906901&title=house-of-pox#906901 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=906724&title=house-of-pox#906724 Author: Bobbie
Subject: 31103
Posted: 22 January 2010 at 10:09pm

The official word on the vaccinations is 10 years but like Flissty said the trials in Japan are showing immunity at 20yrs+

We only got Rowan done because the studies also indicate that it may help prevent shingles too (even if she does get the pox) as shingles are not likely to develop from the cultured strain used in the vaccine - and DH's family is bad for that so I didn't want to risk it.

]]> Fri, 22 Jan 2010 22:09:37 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=906724&title=house-of-pox#906724 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=906454&title=house-of-pox#906454 Author: AandCsmum
Subject: 31103
Posted: 22 January 2010 at 7:16pm

In australia they vax against CP as a standard vax.

]]> Fri, 22 Jan 2010 19:16:52 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=906454&title=house-of-pox#906454 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=906443&title=house-of-pox#906443 Author: fire_engine
Subject: 31103
Posted: 22 January 2010 at 7:04pm

Pass. I know nothing about it (other than many paeds recommend it and I can't afford all the time off work if Daniel had to be in quarantine - already been there done that for a chicken pox scare)

Here we go ... (from IMAC)

A vaccine given by injection is available for those aged over 9 months. Most people (95%) who have this vaccine will not get chicken pox, but if someone who has had the vaccine does get chickenpox, it is usually very mild. The vaccine costs approximately $60-$90 per dose. Also, if given within 3-5 days of exposure, the vaccine may prevent, or will modify, the severity of chickenpox.

How long does the protection from the vaccine last?

Studies in Japan show protection more than 20 years after immunisation. In the USA where the vaccine has not been in use as long, follow-up studies also show that almost all vaccinated individuals remain immune.



Edited by Flissty]]> Fri, 22 Jan 2010 19:04:41 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=906443&title=house-of-pox#906443 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=906434&title=house-of-pox#906434 Author: Bizzy
Subject: 31103
Posted: 22 January 2010 at 6:50pm

how long does the vaccination last for flissty?]]> Fri, 22 Jan 2010 18:50:35 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=906434&title=house-of-pox#906434 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=906419&title=house-of-pox#906419 Author: fire_engine
Subject: 31103
Posted: 22 January 2010 at 6:34pm

That reminds me, I really should get Dan vaccinated!]]> Fri, 22 Jan 2010 18:34:44 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=906419&title=house-of-pox#906419 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=906396&title=house-of-pox#906396 Author: Bizzy
Subject: 31103
Posted: 22 January 2010 at 6:14pm

i think a few of us have poxy kids at the moment.

My older boy has just started breaking out in spots too now, and hopefully he will be done by the time school starts. I didnt want him to miss that first week back.

Lucky for him we didnt notice till after we had been to the movies!

So come join me if you too have a house of pox... Oh and if you want your kids to catch it do feel free to come over for a visit! ]]> Fri, 22 Jan 2010 18:14:37 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31103&PID=906396&title=house-of-pox#906396