OHbaby! Forums : Baby Wise Book! https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sat, 11 Apr 2026 17:42:45 +0000 Thu, 18 Mar 2010 11:46:52 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.05 360 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=32296 <![CDATA[OHbaby! Forums]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_images/web_wiz_forums.png https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/ <![CDATA[Baby Wise Book! : thanks for that Febgirl going...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=32296&PID=971631&title=baby-wise-book#971631 Author: Jackie86
Subject: 32296
Posted: 18 March 2010 at 11:46am

thanks for that Febgirl going to see if I can get my hands on that book
]]> Thu, 18 Mar 2010 11:46:52 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=32296&PID=971631&title=baby-wise-book#971631 <![CDATA[Baby Wise Book! : Oh and the most useful section...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=32296&PID=971606&title=baby-wise-book#971606 Author: Febgirl
Subject: 32296
Posted: 18 March 2010 at 11:34am

Oh and the most useful section of Baby Whisperer (I found as a new mum) was the section on deciphering baby's cries e.g. what does a hungry cry sound like compared to a tired cry etc, what tired signs look like etc. ]]> Thu, 18 Mar 2010 11:34:13 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=32296&PID=971606&title=baby-wise-book#971606 <![CDATA[Baby Wise Book! : I haven&#039;t read it but I like...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=32296&PID=971601&title=baby-wise-book#971601 Author: Febgirl
Subject: 32296
Posted: 18 March 2010 at 11:31am

I haven't read it but I like Secrets of the Baby Whisperer - outlines the Eat, Activity, Sleep, You routine but it isn't hard and fast and is quite a gentle approach. I'd recommend it if you're after information about settling into routines but without strict timeframes. ]]> Thu, 18 Mar 2010 11:31:26 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=32296&PID=971601&title=baby-wise-book#971601 <![CDATA[Baby Wise Book! : I read it some things sounded...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=32296&PID=971412&title=baby-wise-book#971412 Author: jjands
Subject: 32296
Posted: 18 March 2010 at 9:04am

I read it some things sounded good the rest didn't same with most books it's rare to find something you agree with 100%.
Take what sounds right to you and leave the rest :)]]> Thu, 18 Mar 2010 09:04:14 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=32296&PID=971412&title=baby-wise-book#971412 <![CDATA[Baby Wise Book! : Flissty- your right they make...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=32296&PID=971358&title=baby-wise-book#971358 Author: Jackie86
Subject: 32296
Posted: 18 March 2010 at 8:24am

Flissty- your right they make me feel like the worst mother in the world because I dont follow there book! God gave me a brain so I should use it right! ]]> Thu, 18 Mar 2010 08:24:35 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=32296&PID=971358&title=baby-wise-book#971358 <![CDATA[Baby Wise Book! : I like reading to see the different...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=32296&PID=970999&title=baby-wise-book#970999 Author: fire_engine
Subject: 32296
Posted: 17 March 2010 at 6:52pm

I like reading to see the different ideas but agree that there is no one size fits all.

Interestingly, a friend's mum (who is a MW and hates babywise) thinks it is more "successful" in girls than in boys.

One thing I dislike is the missionary type zeal that people who have used BabyWise have - they seem to preach about it as if it's the best way and the only way (DH was nearly swayed but I stopped that!).]]> Wed, 17 Mar 2010 18:52:01 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=32296&PID=970999&title=baby-wise-book#970999 <![CDATA[Baby Wise Book! : Just serving up tea now, but you...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=32296&PID=970958&title=baby-wise-book#970958 Author: HippyMama
Subject: 32296
Posted: 17 March 2010 at 6:16pm

Just serving up tea now, but you could always start by Googling authors like Pinky McKay, Elizabeth Pantley, Dr William Sears and the like

I will try to remember to come back later with some more authors and book titles for you.]]> Wed, 17 Mar 2010 18:16:31 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=32296&PID=970958&title=baby-wise-book#970958 <![CDATA[Baby Wise Book! : Thanks for your opinions guy’s...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=32296&PID=970816&title=baby-wise-book#970816 Author: Jackie86
Subject: 32296
Posted: 17 March 2010 at 4:36pm

Thanks for your opinions guy’s I was getting very frustrated with this book a lot of what it said was very contradicting, like saying if baby’s hungry then feed it but at the same time talking bout stretching the feed’s to 3 hours.
Thanks for the links to the site’s HippyMama and Mamma2N, it did really open my eyes. I am not in to “baby training” but I am looking for useful books with tip’s/suggestions to do if baby’s upset ect.

Kmarie you are right and I feel like my sister and friends have taken it maybe just too far, there is useful information in there but that information I feel is mostly common sense anyway.
]]> Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:36:10 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=32296&PID=970816&title=baby-wise-book#970816 <![CDATA[Baby Wise Book! : I read the book recently (never...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=32296&PID=970714&title=baby-wise-book#970714 Author: kmarie
Subject: 32296
Posted: 17 March 2010 at 3:11pm

I read the book recently (never got around to it before I had Bethany) and found that while there were some good ideas in there, I didn't totally agree with everything. I have a friend who swears by it, and her kids really are thriving, but it's still not for me.

However I do think that if you take some of their ideas as 'suggestions' they can be helpful. For example, while I would never go with a routine simply because it was in a book, their suggestions for time frames between feeds actually lined up with what I did for Bethany in the early days although I'd never read the book at that point myself. Obviously it wouldn't work for every baby though, and in the end it's your mummy's instinct that needs to kick in so you can do what is best for your own child.

I think the danger is if you read something like babywise - or any parenting book for that matter - and treat it as law, rather than tailoring your days around what works best for you and for baby. Personally I'd never be comfortable sticking with the book to the letter. But if you are the type of mother who needs order and routine to be able to be the best mum you can be, then this may be a good book for you to base your days on. As long as you hold to it loosely and put your child's wellbeing first, that is.

That's just me though. I'd say yes, it was worth the read! But don't think it's the only way to parent - or that anyone should feel like they're a bad parent if they're not parenting that way. (Which can be tempting whenever any of us read these kinds of books, or comes across someone who thinks that their way is the only way to do things :P) Cuz neither is true!

So in a long winded answer to your question: I would say that yes - it does work. But just because it 'works' isn't the reason to do it. For me, all those extra snuggles and baby wearing and being able to go out and about with a baby that could sleep anywhere was more important to me than a baby who did everything by clockwork including sleeping through the night.

Hope that helps and isn't just a confusing ramble lol!]]> Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:11:21 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=32296&PID=970714&title=baby-wise-book#970714 <![CDATA[Baby Wise Book! : I did read this book and took...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=32296&PID=969983&title=baby-wise-book#969983 Author: BeLoved
Subject: 32296
Posted: 16 March 2010 at 8:08pm

I did read this book and took a few things from it, and discarded the rest as I have done with any parenting book I have read, at the end of the day you have to do what feels right for you and your baby. There are so many extremes out there from over the top strict schedules to never leave your baby to sleep or be on their own as they will not be attached to you if you do! (just to add a disclaimer: I am not taking either side in this topic just pointing out the opposite extremes that todays parenting trends go to)

The only thing I remember about the Babywise book was it said that its important to have one on one time with your partner as you did before you had baby, and for me this was important and why I worked towards getting DD to have a bedtime between 7 - 8 so that DH and I could then have some quality time together.

At the end of the day, like I said before do what feels right for you and your baby not what anyone else tells you is right.

]]> Tue, 16 Mar 2010 20:08:41 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=32296&PID=969983&title=baby-wise-book#969983 <![CDATA[Baby Wise Book! : . ]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=32296&PID=969960&title=baby-wise-book#969960 Author: NewPhoenix
Subject: 32296
Posted: 16 March 2010 at 7:51pm

.]]> Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:51:16 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=32296&PID=969960&title=baby-wise-book#969960 <![CDATA[Baby Wise Book! : The best use for that book is...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=32296&PID=969955&title=baby-wise-book#969955 Author: QHX
Subject: 32296
Posted: 16 March 2010 at 7:45pm

The best use for that book is as a fire starter for winter.

It has been links to multiple cases of Failure To Thrive, which is enough of a reason for me to steer clear.

]]> Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:45:13 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=32296&PID=969955&title=baby-wise-book#969955 <![CDATA[Baby Wise Book! : Anthea wrote:how did you know...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=32296&PID=969938&title=baby-wise-book#969938 Author: HippyMama
Subject: 32296
Posted: 16 March 2010 at 7:33pm

Originally posted by Anthea Anthea wrote:

how did you know his kids dont talk to him?


Go here, towards the bottom of the page:

http://www.ezzo.info/charactercounts.htm

In particular:

"His family does not reflect the promises in his books. It seems obvious that an advisor on healthy family life should have a healthy, functional family of his or her own. The Ezzos' children are presently estranged from their parents. This is particularly troubling since the Ezzos say the goal of their program is friendship with adult children and urge that parenting philosophies, including their own, be judged by "observ[ing] the end results.""


Edited by HippyMama]]> Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:33:22 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=32296&PID=969938&title=baby-wise-book#969938 <![CDATA[Baby Wise Book! : . ]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=32296&PID=969878&title=baby-wise-book#969878 Author: NewPhoenix
Subject: 32296
Posted: 16 March 2010 at 6:29pm

.]]> Tue, 16 Mar 2010 18:29:43 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=32296&PID=969878&title=baby-wise-book#969878 <![CDATA[Baby Wise Book! : I&#039;m with Mamma2N - there...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=32296&PID=969790&title=baby-wise-book#969790 Author: HippyMama
Subject: 32296
Posted: 16 March 2010 at 5:18pm

I'm with Mamma2N - there are cases in the US where deaths of infants have been linked to the use of Gary Ezzo's methods.

The link Mamma2N has given I think is the actual statement from the American Academy of Pediatrics concerning these books and how dangerous Ezzo's methods are.

From the same blog, here are some more articles on "survivors" of babywise and the like:

http://www.drmomma.org/2010/01/taking-down-babywise-hero.html

I would VERY strongly advocate against bothering to read or use the methods in his books. And I mean *strongly*.

Here are some more links about why anyone thinking of using Babywise routines should reconsider:

http://www.ezzo.info/

http://www.drmomma.org/2009/12/train-up-child-in-way-he-should-go.html (from paediatrician Dr William Sears)

http://www.drmomma.org/2010/01/pediatric-nurse-and-former-ezzo-parent.html

If you're into baby "training" (we aren't) there are definitely better books out there. ]]> Tue, 16 Mar 2010 17:18:56 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=32296&PID=969790&title=baby-wise-book#969790 <![CDATA[Baby Wise Book! : Personally I found it to be a...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=32296&PID=969740&title=baby-wise-book#969740 Author: Mamma2N
Subject: 32296
Posted: 16 March 2010 at 4:35pm

Personally I found it to be a load of bollocks - actually I find it completely dangerous.. advocating strict infant feeding routines has been linked to many babies' failure to thrive and dehydration. Here's a linky to an interesting article linky
I am also against any form of CIO, so soon found it wasn't the book for us.

And I'm sorry but I can't for the life of me comprehend why anyone would want to take parenting advice from a man whose own children refuse to talk to him! ]]> Tue, 16 Mar 2010 16:35:48 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=32296&PID=969740&title=baby-wise-book#969740 <![CDATA[Baby Wise Book! : yep, I read it when my older daughter...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=32296&PID=969708&title=baby-wise-book#969708 Author: jaycee
Subject: 32296
Posted: 16 March 2010 at 4:10pm

yep, I read it when my older daughter was tiny and it worked great for us. She was and continues to be a great sleeper and a very settled child.

It was very useful until about 6 months when we started solids and then I moved onto Gina Ford "Contented Little Baby" - I found the fact that the advocated the need to say 'grace' before every solids feed for baby a little different to my lifestyle.

The CLB book had more info on how and when to bring solids in and the changing routine of an older baby (6 - 12 months)]]> Tue, 16 Mar 2010 16:10:03 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=32296&PID=969708&title=baby-wise-book#969708 <![CDATA[Baby Wise Book! : I’ve been reading on becoming...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=32296&PID=969661&title=baby-wise-book#969661 Author: Jackie86
Subject: 32296
Posted: 16 March 2010 at 3:23pm

I’ve been reading on becoming baby wise by Gary Ezzo and Robert Bcknam
I want to know if anyone else has read it and what they through of it and if it does work?

My sister and her friends read it like a bible.
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