https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sat, 11 Apr 2026 04:46:09 +0000 Mon, 21 Jun 2010 11:57:00 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.05 360 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=34148 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_images/web_wiz_forums.png https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/ https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34148&PID=1070555&title=what-do-you-think#1070555 Author: sunnyhoney
Subject: 34148
Posted: 21 June 2010 at 11:57am

newlywed wrote: Good on you! You have a great point - stupid people! Although I would say that if you had toddlers, requesting that you arrange care for them would be understandable (and easy enough, eg. kindy) - whereas babies are pretty great in these circumstances. Especially newborn.

This is exactly my point. I wouldn't expect to be able to take my toddler (or child older than this).]]> Mon, 21 Jun 2010 11:57:00 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34148&PID=1070555&title=what-do-you-think#1070555 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34148&PID=1070553&title=what-do-you-think#1070553 Author: sunnyhoney
Subject: 34148
Posted: 21 June 2010 at 11:55am


Some of your points crossed my mind too and I wondered if I was making too big a deal of it but even for groups they hold during the day, you still can't bring children.
They could arrange to have a parent friendly discussion group in amoung the time options available to accommodate more people.]]> Mon, 21 Jun 2010 11:55:20 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34148&PID=1070553&title=what-do-you-think#1070553 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34148&PID=1070544&title=what-do-you-think#1070544 Author: blissful
Subject: 34148
Posted: 21 June 2010 at 11:51am

I don't think they're discriminating at all. They're running a business and they pay you to be there. Imagine if every person there took their children, the focus would be on the children.]]> Mon, 21 Jun 2010 11:51:02 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34148&PID=1070544&title=what-do-you-think#1070544 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34148&PID=1070542&title=what-do-you-think#1070542 Author: anon
Subject: 34148
Posted: 21 June 2010 at 11:50am

Good on you! You have a great point - stupid people! Although I would say that if you had toddlers, requesting that you arrange care for them would be understandable (and easy enough, eg. kindy) - whereas babies are pretty great in these circumstances. Especially newborn.

Edited by newlywed]]> Mon, 21 Jun 2010 11:50:21 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34148&PID=1070542&title=what-do-you-think#1070542 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34148&PID=1070535&title=what-do-you-think#1070535 Author: TheKelly
Subject: 34148
Posted: 21 June 2010 at 11:45am

caraMel wrote: TBH I don't really think it is discriminatory. The way they phrased the bit about not bringing children was a bit harsh sounding, but I think their points are valid. Babies are distracting, even if they're not crying just their presence distracts some people and I can imagine if you were trying to run a discussion it would be frustrating. JMO, not trying to have a go

what she said ....and JMO as well ]]> Mon, 21 Jun 2010 11:45:36 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34148&PID=1070535&title=what-do-you-think#1070535 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34148&PID=1070534&title=what-do-you-think#1070534 Author: sunnyhoney
Subject: 34148
Posted: 21 June 2010 at 11:45am

tishy wrote: ETA: And ask for a room where you can express obviously

]]> Mon, 21 Jun 2010 11:45:07 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34148&PID=1070534&title=what-do-you-think#1070534 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34148&PID=1070528&title=what-do-you-think#1070528 Author: tishy
Subject: 34148
Posted: 21 June 2010 at 11:42am

I don't think it's discriminatory at all. They are paying you to be there and to have your (and other attendees) full attention.

You know you could just express before hand and take a breastpump along with you....

ETA: And ask for a room where you can express obviously

Edited by tishy]]> Mon, 21 Jun 2010 11:42:30 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34148&PID=1070528&title=what-do-you-think#1070528 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34148&PID=1070477&title=what-do-you-think#1070477 Author: GuestGuest
Subject: 34148
Posted: 21 June 2010 at 11:00am

I don't think it is being discriminatory at all and I really don't get how you would take it that way. If I had a baby I wouldn't expect to be permitted to attend something like that. ]]> Mon, 21 Jun 2010 11:00:54 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34148&PID=1070477&title=what-do-you-think#1070477 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34148&PID=1070473&title=what-do-you-think#1070473 Author: sunnyhoney
Subject: 34148
Posted: 21 June 2010 at 10:59am

Joscia wrote: I got asked, twice, recently to take part in a similar focus group about nappy brands - and wasn't allowed to take DS. How ridiculous is that!! To qualify for the group you had to use the products, but weren't allowed to bring your child who wears said products with you. Absurd.

I agree....how dumb!]]> Mon, 21 Jun 2010 10:59:03 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34148&PID=1070473&title=what-do-you-think#1070473 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34148&PID=1070462&title=what-do-you-think#1070462 Author: Joscia
Subject: 34148
Posted: 21 June 2010 at 10:52am

I got asked, twice, recently to take part in a similar focus group about nappy brands - and wasn't allowed to take DS. How ridiculous is that!! To qualify for the group you had to use the products, but weren't allowed to bring your child who wears said products with you. Absurd. ]]> Mon, 21 Jun 2010 10:52:50 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34148&PID=1070462&title=what-do-you-think#1070462 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34148&PID=1069188&title=what-do-you-think#1069188 Author: kebakat
Subject: 34148
Posted: 19 June 2010 at 7:07pm

jazzy wrote: If it was me I would just take my name off their list. I agree with them as they are a business & they pay like a job. Interruptions cost time & money & defeats the purpose of what they are trying to do. I like you would not take my kids to something like that & I would not be impressed if others did...I don't want to listen to other baby/children crying or playing up if I have left mine at home.

Agreed. Kids are a distraction. And not all people feel comfortable with others breastfeeding in front of them which is a distraction. ]]> Sat, 19 Jun 2010 19:07:01 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34148&PID=1069188&title=what-do-you-think#1069188 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34148&PID=1069172&title=what-do-you-think#1069172 Author: HuntersMama
Subject: 34148
Posted: 19 June 2010 at 6:50pm

Good on you!!]]> Sat, 19 Jun 2010 18:50:07 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34148&PID=1069172&title=what-do-you-think#1069172 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34148&PID=1068711&title=what-do-you-think#1068711 Author: jazzy
Subject: 34148
Posted: 19 June 2010 at 7:11am

If it was me I would just take my name off their list. I agree with them as they are a business & they pay like a job. Interruptions cost time & money & defeats the purpose of what they are trying to do.

I like you would not take my kids to something like that & I would not be impressed if others did...I don't want to listen to other baby/children crying or playing up if I have left mine at home.]]> Sat, 19 Jun 2010 07:11:54 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34148&PID=1068711&title=what-do-you-think#1068711 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34148&PID=1068708&title=what-do-you-think#1068708 Author: NikkiB
Subject: 34148
Posted: 19 June 2010 at 7:05am

You go girl! ]]> Sat, 19 Jun 2010 07:05:10 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34148&PID=1068708&title=what-do-you-think#1068708 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34148&PID=1068696&title=what-do-you-think#1068696 Author: sunnyhoney
Subject: 34148
Posted: 19 June 2010 at 12:33am

Sure I know it would be distracting to some people.

I just got a bit tired of them inviting me to participate in their groups and then saying that I can't come if I have to bring kids...I wouldn't take my kid if I thought they would be a problem (but then I guess not everyone would do that).]]> Sat, 19 Jun 2010 00:33:08 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34148&PID=1068696&title=what-do-you-think#1068696 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34148&PID=1068693&title=what-do-you-think#1068693 Author: caraMel
Subject: 34148
Posted: 19 June 2010 at 12:26am

TBH I don't really think it is discriminatory.
The way they phrased the bit about not bringing children was a bit harsh sounding, but I think their points are valid.
Babies are distracting, even if they're not crying just their presence distracts some people and I can imagine if you were trying to run a discussion it would be frustrating.

JMO, not trying to have a go

]]> Sat, 19 Jun 2010 00:26:01 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34148&PID=1068693&title=what-do-you-think#1068693 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34148&PID=1068683&title=what-do-you-think#1068683 Author: sunnyhoney
Subject: 34148
Posted: 18 June 2010 at 11:43pm

Dear Sunnyhoney*,
Thank you for agreeing to take part in our research on **********, which I am sure you will find both interesting and enjoyable. The focus group is to better understand people’s shopping attitudes and behaviours. The discussion will be relaxed and informal, as a means of gathering feedback on the topic, there are no right or wrong answers, but it is expected that everyone will contribute to the discussion.
We would like to emphasise that the researchers and clients are counting on your input as considerable planning and organisation goes in to running these groups. Having a full group at the session does make a difference.
***I would appreciate advance notice if you are unable to attend, as a replacement participant will need to be found to meet the research requirements. Please telephone ******** or email ****************************
Please remember there are no child minding facilities at focus groups and you will not be permitted to participate, or receive payment, if you bring a child or other family members with you.
The details of your appointment are:

etc etc etc

I reply:

Sorry, I can no longer participate after reading this email. I have a newborn child who is breastfed and would need to come with me. Please note, I actually find your exclusion of mothers in this manner to be quite discriminatory.


Their reply:

Thanks for your email, I’m sorry you will not be able to attend. I hope you can understand that it would just be too distracting for the group if baby was crying or you had to leave to change baby etc. We are in no way trying to be discriminatory.
Many Thanks


So, I replied:

Hi ***

I'm sure you are not "trying" to be but it is none the less. I am forbidden to attend because I have a child who is dependant on me to provide food. Yes there may be some small distractions (similar to an adult having a coughing fit or needing use the bathroom themselves), but I'm sure most of the people attending your group are mature enough to understand and empathise with the given situation.
It is the research that is missing out on the opinions and ideas of a very wide section of people. Just my opinion.
You might want to remove me from your list of contacts. As I will be a stay-at-home mum for many years to come yet, contacting me to participate is obviously a waste of time for all concerned.



DH is more than amused after reading this... ]]> Fri, 18 Jun 2010 23:43:51 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34148&PID=1068683&title=what-do-you-think#1068683