https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Tue, 19 May 2026 13:27:09 +0000 Thu, 17 Feb 2011 12:15:08 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.05 360 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=37231 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_images/web_wiz_forums.png https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/ https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1268930&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1268930 Author: Lizze
Subject: 37231
Posted: 17 February 2011 at 12:15pm

we are worse!! lol
for about 10 days now it has been every 30 minutes at night, he had a tummy bug for a week so hopefully that was part of it, plus he must be due some more teeth soon, i don't actively check his mouth. ... or am I just looking for excuses, lol

definetly my fault though, the reflux medication was helping with the wind, then when he got sick last week we took him off it because we decided he needed the stomach acid to get better (i'm no doctor though)
plus I have fed him to sleep since he was born, just lazy on my part really... and now, we are moving house next week and we have decided not to put the cot up at the new house, he sleeps full time in a single bed anyway, and knows how to get down, so now we can't even contain him! lol

*sigh*]]> Thu, 17 Feb 2011 12:15:08 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1268930&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1268930 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1268891&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1268891 Author: millymollymandy
Subject: 37231
Posted: 17 February 2011 at 11:33am

Actually I think that's great progress! Well done. Especially given how hot its been.]]> Thu, 17 Feb 2011 11:33:02 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1268891&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1268891 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1268709&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1268709 Author: 1st_Time_Preggies
Subject: 37231
Posted: 17 February 2011 at 8:42am

Haha I wish!!!!!!!!!

DS is down to one nap a day and that SEEMS to have helped going to sleep in the evenings, although last night was the exception! He is still waking once or twice a night but sometimes it is just a matter of laying him back down and he is out. Or some patting. We try to leave him in his cot unless he is hysterical.

How are you getting on Lizze?]]> Thu, 17 Feb 2011 08:42:32 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1268709&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1268709 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1268617&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1268617 Author: Lizze
Subject: 37231
Posted: 16 February 2011 at 11:10pm

just bumping to see if anyone found any miracle solutions]]> Wed, 16 Feb 2011 23:10:13 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1268617&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1268617 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1244553&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1244553 Author: 1st_Time_Preggies
Subject: 37231
Posted: 19 January 2011 at 8:40am

Bit of an update:

We still have total screaming at bedtime which SUCKS    It soooo gets me down and I wish I could figure out WHY! He goes to sleep FINE during the day and likes his cot then, so why not at night???

He is still waking a few times a night, BUT I think he is getting better because sometimes my DH can get up and settle him which is GREAT. I have also been sleeping in when I can which helps with the sleep deprivation.

I am volunteering next week and going back to work in February and worried what will happen when I can't comfort him with a b/f    I guess we shall see! I suppose part of my fear is that he will be fine without me and that *I* am part of the problem!!! ]]> Wed, 19 Jan 2011 08:40:42 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1244553&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1244553 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1243029&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1243029 Author: High9
Subject: 37231
Posted: 17 January 2011 at 10:18pm

Oh dear! Not looking forward to that then!!! ]]> Mon, 17 Jan 2011 22:18:58 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1243029&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1243029 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1242417&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1242417 Author: 1st_Time_Preggies
Subject: 37231
Posted: 17 January 2011 at 1:49pm

Yay hils10! That is great progress!

Well I went to the Dr, she says his ears are still infected and he is teething, so don't expect him to sleep well for at least a week yet. At least she took me seriously this time and didn't say it was behavioural!!!!

She also mentioned that apparently around the 11 month mark is notorious for bad sleeping. Noone tells you these things!!!]]> Mon, 17 Jan 2011 13:49:05 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1242417&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1242417 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1242208&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1242208 Author: hils10
Subject: 37231
Posted: 17 January 2011 at 11:17am

Must have been the night for it... I gave up trying to rock DD to sleep as she was fighting me and left her to settle herself... she played in her cot for about 45 min with no tears and I thought MAYBE she's gonna settle herself, but then she started grizzling, then got hysterical and I had to go in, give her some more milk and rock her to sleep (which worked this time). Sigh.

I think we had a minor breakthrough the rest of the night though, as we only had to get up to her ONCE! At about 12.30am, and DP got up, gave her a small bottle of formula and she went straight back to sleep. She actually woke up several other times in the night, but just grizzled for a minute or two (and I think at one point was crawling around in her cot) then put herself back to sleep!! Her grizzling never got to proper crying and never lasted more than a minute or so, so we just left her to it and she was FINE (except a little tired this morning). Only thing is that I couldn't sleep cos I kept expecting her to wake up again and really start crying    I hope this is the start of a new trend!]]> Mon, 17 Jan 2011 11:17:28 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1242208&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1242208 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1242093&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1242093 Author: 1st_Time_Preggies
Subject: 37231
Posted: 17 January 2011 at 9:27am

Yay so pleased for you lil_nic, you must be stoked. Yip Jake was a total mission to get to sleep last night too, but nothing different there.

He woke at 11pm, 2pm and 3pm (I gave him nurofen then) which isn't great but have had worse.

Am taking him back to the Dr today to see how the ears are looking, as I think he is still in pain (no matter what my Dr says!). I am also going to get a second opinion I think.....]]> Mon, 17 Jan 2011 09:27:50 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1242093&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1242093 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1241920&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1241920 Author: High9
Subject: 37231
Posted: 16 January 2011 at 10:25pm

Are his ears getting any better?

We had another good night too so am pleased those she was a mission to get down tonight (too hot)!
Am dreading the arrival of more teeth! ]]> Sun, 16 Jan 2011 22:25:44 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1241920&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1241920 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1241339&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1241339 Author: 1st_Time_Preggies
Subject: 37231
Posted: 16 January 2011 at 7:43am

Well we had a "reasonable" night last night in terms of the fact that he went to bed and fell asleep on his own! Hasn't done that in MONTHS! It was 8.30pm though so I am wondering if he just needs to go to bed a bit later in the evening? He woke an hour later though :-( Then again at midnight (only rocked tho), 1am and 3.30am. Not the best, but better than it has been! He b/f all but one of the times and went straight back to sleep, which is a good start. I am hoping once he is better I can start back at working on his sleeping and cutting all these feeds out ]]> Sun, 16 Jan 2011 07:43:26 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1241339&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1241339 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1241033&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1241033 Author: 1st_Time_Preggies
Subject: 37231
Posted: 15 January 2011 at 3:38pm

I hear you Chelle! I can't sleep when he does at the moment either. Very frustrating. My DH is home at the moment so I have been sleeping in which has helped. A few more of those and I might feel human again ]]> Sat, 15 Jan 2011 15:38:18 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1241033&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1241033 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1240964&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1240964 Author: tiptoes
Subject: 37231
Posted: 15 January 2011 at 1:10pm

Yay for a better night and keeping him in his cot. I hope you manage to have a nap today.

I'm still struggling with the same thing and have gone from one wake up back to three. The first two I've been resettling and by the third I give in and bring him into bed where he spends 1-2 hours wriggling around before going to sleep. That wriggling around and playing is frustrating. There must be something going on, right? I can't work out if it's hot/cold/hunger or what. I asked if he wanted a bottle when he'd been moving around for ages last night and he lost the plot (meaning yes he wanted one right this instant). But after draining a bottle he still didn't sleep for ages so who knows.   I tried to nap just now while he's sleeping but for some reason couldn't sleep. So annoying. ]]> Sat, 15 Jan 2011 13:10:35 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1240964&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1240964 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1240888&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1240888 Author: 1st_Time_Preggies
Subject: 37231
Posted: 15 January 2011 at 11:20am

Awesome lil_nic, sounds like she is doing so well :-) And great that you have a reason for the waking. I guess we shall see how tonight goes!]]> Sat, 15 Jan 2011 11:20:52 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1240888&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1240888 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1240857&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1240857 Author: High9
Subject: 37231
Posted: 15 January 2011 at 10:56am

That sounds logical, I know Lily has done the same before in the past, I'd literally have to open her bedroom door and she'd cry...

We had a better night last night, again all night in her cot + she went down this morning for first nap in there too!
She went to bed at 7.30 but didn't fall asleep until 9pm! Was too hot. We actually played on our bed and she fell asleep there after a bf and some cuddles. She woke at 10 and 10.30 but then woke at 2am and 3.30am (DP went toilet and we normally don't flush over night but he forgot and she woke! (her room is right next to the toilet)) anyway she slept until 7. I definitely think her sleep problems are teething related. ]]> Sat, 15 Jan 2011 10:56:42 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1240857&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1240857 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1240798&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1240798 Author: 1st_Time_Preggies
Subject: 37231
Posted: 15 January 2011 at 9:47am

Thanks you guys. I sooooo appreciate the support!!!!!

Well my DH tried to get him into bed last night at 7pm and he screamed on and off for more than an hour and a half    In the end I gave him pamol and b/f him.

He woke again at 1030pm, but a quick b/f and he went back to sleep. When he woke at 2.30am, my DH tried to settle him for more than an hour before we gave him pamol and I b/f him again.

Then he woke at 6am! So I managed to keep him in his cot all night (which was my goal) and no playing! So I guess that is a start.

My GP said he "shouldn't" be waking so often cause of his ears (and I think teething last night too) but in amongst the wakings I thought: who is she to say he is not in pain???

I also wonder whether he has developed a bit of a "phobia" of his bed at night time cause he has been in pain while in it?]]> Sat, 15 Jan 2011 09:47:44 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1240798&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1240798 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1240609&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1240609 Author: High9
Subject: 37231
Posted: 14 January 2011 at 10:10pm

Huge, huge hugs! I hope his ears feel better soon and he does some seriously good make up sleeping for you! ]]> Fri, 14 Jan 2011 22:10:36 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1240609&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1240609 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1240478&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1240478 Author: Speck8
Subject: 37231
Posted: 14 January 2011 at 8:08pm

Oh gosh that makes me sad :(

Huge huge huge hugs for you hun, this is truly a very stressful, upsetting, emotional and tiring situation you're in. Particularly if you're prone to anxiety issues.

It sounds like you need about a 24 hour break or something so you can just rest! I'm in Auckland, bring him over to mine for the night!!!! Ha - not so easy when you're still breastfeeding huh. But is there anyone else that you can call on? Your Mum? MIL? I just feel like you need some serious zzzzzz's before you go crazy! ]]> Fri, 14 Jan 2011 20:08:31 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1240478&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1240478 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1240472&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1240472 Author: 1st_Time_Preggies
Subject: 37231
Posted: 14 January 2011 at 8:00pm

Aww thanks Speck8. Actually I am not really coping. I felt my old anxiety creeping in today and couldn't nap this afternoon. I asked the Dr about something for him but she said no :-( That he isn't waking out of pain anymore.

My DH is in there with him right now and he is screaming his lungs out ]]> Fri, 14 Jan 2011 20:00:28 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1240472&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1240472 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1240453&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1240453 Author: Speck8
Subject: 37231
Posted: 14 January 2011 at 7:42pm

Wow you are doing AMAZING 1st_Time_Preggies to cope with the sleep deprivation!!!! MASSIVE pats on the back to you!!!

Don't know if you'd want to go down this track but I do know of a friend who had terrible trouble with her bubs waking 1-2 hourly during the night and the doc gave her something to give her bubs to make him sleep. Could perhaps be a last resort thing if you really feel like you're not coping. But seriously - you are super mum for what you're going through!!!]]> Fri, 14 Jan 2011 19:42:04 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1240453&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1240453 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1240146&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1240146 Author: crafty1
Subject: 37231
Posted: 14 January 2011 at 1:46pm

hugs to you 1st time p - sleep deprivation sucks! ]]> Fri, 14 Jan 2011 13:46:40 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1240146&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1240146 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1239970&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1239970 Author: 1st_Time_Preggies
Subject: 37231
Posted: 14 January 2011 at 11:23am

Thanks lil_nic9, I am willing to give ANYTHING a shot! We do have a fan on in his room, and white noise USED to help him sleep, but not anymore it seems! Tonight I am going to do my utmost to keep him in his cot all night. Don't like my chances ]]> Fri, 14 Jan 2011 11:23:21 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1239970&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1239970 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1239960&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1239960 Author: High9
Subject: 37231
Posted: 14 January 2011 at 11:16am

Aww huge hugs and you have every right to vent! I had a huge hissy fit at DP yesterday morning because I'd been up almost all night while he slept in bed and DD refused to sleep in her bed, anyway I heard him get up at 7... But he never came out to the lounge or anything (went to the toilet) anyway I thought he'd gone back to bed (i was fuming) but turns out he'd gone to his computer in his study! ARGH! Boy was I wild with anger! lol! Needless to say I felt a bit better after that morning nap together!

We had a better night last night... She went down at about 8, woke at 10, 10.30pm... (I started to panic but she managed to go back down into her cot *yus!* and stayed asleep until 2am) but she was quite hysterical but much better after some bonjela and a BF... She woke at 4am (not hysterical, had a BF) and slept (in her cot!) until 7.15am! Yus! So I am happy with that... Her tooth has finally cut the gum so I think she's still sore but feeling a lot better. My nipple isn't too happy though!

She also went down for a nap in her cot first time today! But no selp settling anymore, we're back to BFing to sleep.

One thing I have found that has helped imo, I rented a CD from the library called Music for Dreaming it's about 57 mins worth of continuous lullabies done by flutes, etc (no words/lyrics) and I just play it quietly (enough to drown out noise round the house) and she seems to be really calm and relaxed and able to sleep better iygwim! ]]> Fri, 14 Jan 2011 11:16:00 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1239960&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1239960 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1239865&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1239865 Author: 1st_Time_Preggies
Subject: 37231
Posted: 14 January 2011 at 9:31am

PS Just been to the Dr who says his ears still have a bit of fluid behind them, but it doesn't explain all the night waking and certainly not the 3.30am play. She thinks it is behavioural :-( Great, now I have to deal with that on top of everything else!
]]> Fri, 14 Jan 2011 09:31:18 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1239865&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1239865 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1239843&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1239843 Author: hils10
Subject: 37231
Posted: 14 January 2011 at 9:17am

Oh I hate it when they decide its playtime at 3 in the morning! My little one occasionally does that too - wide awake and just wanting to chat and all I want to do is go back to sleep - and generally by the time she does go back to sleep she's completely lost the plot. I find the only thing that works (occasionally) is to persist with rocking, lullaby and no eye contact right from the time we pick her up. For us its generally a one-off and she will be back to normal the next night.

So anyway, hang in there, I'm sure he'll go back to normal in a few nights! Maybe now he's feeling better he's excited to find he's in bed with you? Can you hand him over to your DH to rock him back to sleep if youre getting frustrated?

We didn't have a great night here. Wakeups almost every hour except for a little stretch between 1.15 and 3.45. She only had 2 small feeds though (10.30pm and 3.45am) so thats good. I think in hindsight she was just cold, even though I had an extra blanket on her - it was freezing here in Welly last night! The night before was really good (2 stretches of 4 hrs during the night and a sleep-in!) so I was getting my hopes up ]]> Fri, 14 Jan 2011 09:17:04 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1239843&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1239843 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1239751&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1239751 Author: 1st_Time_Preggies
Subject: 37231
Posted: 14 January 2011 at 7:32am

Okay, I have to RANT!!!!!!!!!!

We were on night 5 of this HORRIBLE week and I am starting to crack. I had a nap yesterday so thought I would cope better last night but NO. He woke hourly after being put down, then wouldn't go back into his bed at 10pm, so brought him into bed with me. He woke a few times, which was fine, just b/f him back to sleep. BUT then at 3.30am he decided it was time to be AWAKE and starting crawling all over the bed, chatting and wanting to play! Sooooooooo frustrating, cause I am exhausted and he is all happy as larry. Tried putting him back in his cot so he could play there but then he just screamed till he got hysterical. It took till 5am before he FINALLY fell asleep, and even that was on the boob.

I started to lose the plot during that hour and a half. I got angry with him :-( I just don't understand why he is wide awake. I don't think it is pain because he wasn't crying. If it was pain I don't think I would get so annoyed.

Tonight I am going to do my very best to keep him in his cot all night. We are on day 2 1/2 of antibiotics so I hope they are going to kick in! The other thing I have considered is taking him back to the Dr, and perhaps asking for something to help him sleep. Don't know if that is allowed but I am DESPERATE

Sorry for the moan ]]> Fri, 14 Jan 2011 07:32:40 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1239751&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1239751 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1239654&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1239654 Author: High9
Subject: 37231
Posted: 13 January 2011 at 9:57pm

Another horrible night here too! Started at 11pm this time, so we went to the lounge apu... She woke hourly... *yawn* and up at 5.45 for the day! But she made up for it by doing 2.5 hours this morning from 8.30-11! So I got SOME sleep! And her top tooth has pierced the gum so FX for a better night soon!

Our top tooth has been horrid too, more grizzly, upset, broken nights (worse they have ever been!)... No fevers though but she's been a lot more abusive...

Hugs for your rough night! I saw he has fluid in his ears! ]]> Thu, 13 Jan 2011 21:57:23 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1239654&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1239654 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1238774&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1238774 Author: 1st_Time_Preggies
Subject: 37231
Posted: 13 January 2011 at 8:29am

Oh no lil_nic9! That sounds like a bad night. If its any consolation we had a total shocker here too.

Went down at 7pm screaming, ended up b/f to sleep. Woke at 8pm, 9pm, 10pm, before I brought him into bed with me. He woke numerous other times, but the worst was frm 2-4am, where he would sleep for 10/20min before waking again and staying awake for AGES. I am sooooooooo tired, and can't even nap when he does cause my DH is on night shift and sleeping during the day so we have to get out of the house.

And I DEFINITELY found the top teeth 1000 times worse than the bottom ones. The bottom ones came through with hardly a peep, the top ones had fevers, tears and lots of broken nights!]]> Thu, 13 Jan 2011 08:29:31 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1238774&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1238774 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1238582&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1238582 Author: High9
Subject: 37231
Posted: 12 January 2011 at 9:39pm

Haven't read all the new posts sorry!

Shocking night last night again! Lily slept fine 8.30-10.30 *yay* Gave her a BF she went back to sleep but woke at 11.30... Another BF...

She then woke at 1.30... (I thought - might not be a bad night after all) but then after her BF she went back down and I just got back into bed and she started crying so went back and gave her the other side and she slept for 20 mins... By this stage it was about 2am... She would not go back down and if she did it would be 5 mins then crying again... I must've fallen asleep about 2.15am... Woke at 2.30 and she was hysterical (oops but I was sooooo tired!) anyway we camped in the lounge again so as not to disturb DP and she woke at 3, 3.30, 4.30, 5.30, 6am (for the day) and then did a HUGE poo! *sigh*

But it's def her top middle tooth that is bothering her and I've heard those are harder to teeth than the bottom ones because they're bigger... *sigh* she only has 1 coming through! ]]> Wed, 12 Jan 2011 21:39:07 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1238582&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1238582 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1238391&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1238391 Author: 1st_Time_Preggies
Subject: 37231
Posted: 12 January 2011 at 6:55pm

I agree maya22.]]> Wed, 12 Jan 2011 18:55:46 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1238391&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1238391 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1238370&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1238370 Author: maya22
Subject: 37231
Posted: 12 January 2011 at 6:36pm

kiwimum2010 wrote: Am thinking the crying and arching of the back is a pain of some kind...

sounds like reflux http://www.cryingoverspiltmilk.co.nz/Symptoms.htm]]> Wed, 12 Jan 2011 18:36:28 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1238370&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1238370 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1238340&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1238340 Author: 1st_Time_Preggies
Subject: 37231
Posted: 12 January 2011 at 6:08pm

Yes _SMS_ I should put him back to bed, but it gets SOOooo tiring, last night I brought him into bed with me again. It is just so much easier, cause he is waking so many times at night. At least I get some sleep then.

Took him to the Dr this morning and he has an ear infection (both sides) so that explains it!!!!]]> Wed, 12 Jan 2011 18:08:51 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1238340&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1238340 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1238326&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1238326 Author: _SMS_
Subject: 37231
Posted: 12 January 2011 at 5:45pm

If he is sick i would jsut feed him when he wants it. Its obviously a comfort thing too. But just make sure you put him back into bed after.

Poor wee poppit hope he gets better soon]]> Wed, 12 Jan 2011 17:45:28 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1238326&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1238326 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1238156&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1238156 Author: pudgy
Subject: 37231
Posted: 12 January 2011 at 1:56pm

kiwimum2010 wrote: My little man slept 7.30pm - 10.30pm then was awake screaming, arching back, crying etc. Pamol, Bottle and cuddles finally went back to sleep. Woke 5.30am and was unsettled till 6.30am. My DH is not home evenings due to work, so I have to do the whole routine alone. Mornings I am out early 5am and not home till 10am when DH has him till 8am then a day care till 10am. Am thinking the crying and arching of the back is a pain of some kind...

My ds did that from birth you couldn't lie him flat, he's lots of agging back vomit and was always feeding. I took dairy out of diets about 6 weeks ago ( agter being informed a pead app would take 6 mnths ) and he is a different boy. He's eating wellnow and sleeps much much better.

I wish I'd done something earlier. Maybe go see your gp and see if allergy testing can be done.

]]> Wed, 12 Jan 2011 13:56:30 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1238156&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1238156 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1238091&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1238091 Author: kiwimum2010
Subject: 37231
Posted: 12 January 2011 at 12:53pm

My little man slept 7.30pm - 10.30pm then was awake screaming, arching back, crying etc. Pamol, Bottle and cuddles finally went back to sleep. Woke 5.30am and was unsettled till 6.30am. My DH is not home evenings due to work, so I have to do the whole routine alone. Mornings I am out early 5am and not home till 10am when DH has him till 8am then a day care till 10am. Am thinking the crying and arching of the back is a pain of some kind... ]]> Wed, 12 Jan 2011 12:53:38 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1238091&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1238091 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1237872&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1237872 Author: hils10
Subject: 37231
Posted: 12 January 2011 at 9:22am

Our DD has no teeth and I think that is part of the problem - last night she was chewing hard on my fingers as she went off to sleep! I hope she gets them all at once and gets it over with. This morning I thought I could feel something down the bottom but hard to get in and look.

Our night was fairly average. She was tired yesterday so had a second nap, so took a while to go off to sleep in the evening. Was asleep at 7.45, then woke at 8.45 (resettled with a bit of patting), then 10pm (had 80ml formula), 12am (resettled with a cuddle and bonjela - actually I could possibly have left her to resettle herself at this one as she wasn't crying much, but I was on half-asleep autopilot ), then 3.00am (had a little bf), then slept in til 7.30am! At least she went back to sleep without too much drama at each of her wakeups, so in the end it didn't seem like too much of a bad night. It was only night #2 of formula instead of bf before bed and she seemed to be looking for the boob a bit, so that plus teeth probably contributed to the early unsettledness.

1st-TP Hope your little one gets better soon! It is so frustrating when you think things are improving only to have something else crop up to spoil it! But at least you know the reason.]]> Wed, 12 Jan 2011 09:22:04 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1237872&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1237872 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1237772&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1237772 Author: 1st_Time_Preggies
Subject: 37231
Posted: 12 January 2011 at 7:34am

Hi _SMS_. He has just finished getting his fourth top tooth. So now has six!

Another shocker night last night. Would not settle at 9.30pm so at 1030pm took him into bed with me and b/f him, and did so everytime he woke which was about three times? I can't even remember. I am worried he will get used to sleeping in bed with me!

He is definitely not well though. He still has a bit of a cold, has started to cough a little today, and his eyes are gunky. Poor wee man. ]]> Wed, 12 Jan 2011 07:34:40 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1237772&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1237772 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1237567&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1237567 Author: _SMS_
Subject: 37231
Posted: 11 January 2011 at 9:08pm

Sorry to hear about your sleep problems I have been there and know how horrible it is.

Ive read over a few replies but not all.

You DS sounds just like my dd at that age.

Im still sure dds was coursed by teething.

Does your ds have his top four front teeth?? ]]> Tue, 11 Jan 2011 21:08:48 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1237567&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1237567 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1237545&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1237545 Author: 1st_Time_Preggies
Subject: 37231
Posted: 11 January 2011 at 8:52pm

Hi kiwimum2010, welcome!    Although it sucks, it is kinda nice to know you are not alone in the sleeping stakes! It certainly makes me feel a little better, although not so much at 3am
I have definitely heard that when they learn new skill such as walking or crawling that their sleeps go out the window. So hopefully your bubba will settle back down once he gets used to being more mobile

Lizze and Hils10 I too feel like I am doing everything wrong and that he "should" be able to self settle like plunket etc say he should! I am still feeding during the night sometimes, but these days I do try cuddling/rocking etc first, and only then if that doesn't work do I feed.

I think the only way to "make" them sleep through the night is to leave them to cry so they finally give in and sleep because they know noone is coming to get them    No way am I doing that!!! SURELY they will sort themselves out eventually. I won't need to go in when he is 18 and give him a b/f!!!

Haha crafty1 I wish I could send DH in and put my ear plugs in and go back to sleep!!!! I cannot shut my eyes if I hear DS awake/crying and plus usually if he goes in, the crying gets harder/louder/more hysterical

Anyway, tonight he went down okay which is a good start. Has already woken once (8.30pm) but a cuddle and some rocking and he has (crossed fingers) gone back to sleep for now....]]> Tue, 11 Jan 2011 20:52:27 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1237545&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1237545 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1237429&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1237429 Author: T_Rex
Subject: 37231
Posted: 11 January 2011 at 7:20pm

hils10 wrote: So I don't think co-sleeping is gonna help much, and she also tends to regard it as a game and spends most of the time trying to stick her fingers up our noses instead of settling to sleep

Haha, same reason I don't co-sleep!!]]> Tue, 11 Jan 2011 19:20:41 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1237429&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1237429 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1237396&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1237396 Author: crafty1
Subject: 37231
Posted: 11 January 2011 at 6:46pm

Eventually they all do. Can you leave a bottle in with her so she finds it and feeds herself? ]]> Tue, 11 Jan 2011 18:46:42 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1237396&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1237396 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1237235&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1237235 Author: hils10
Subject: 37231
Posted: 11 January 2011 at 4:05pm

My DD is 11.5 months. From 12 weeks to about 5.5 months she slept 8-12 hours a night without me "doing" anything to encourage it! Then the nightwaking began, and we just haven't been able to get on top of it. I think there are a variety of reasons why she wakes - probably hunger when she was younger as she didn't start eating solids properly until she was 9 months and even now is not a big eater, and teething for sure some nights, and the odd night we have not got the temperature right I'm sure!

Since about 7 months she's been having bf morning and evening and formula during the day, but I have just weaned her off bf entirely partly because I've been starting to have supply issues with not feeding so regularly so thought I would take that out of the equation. So I don't think co-sleeping is gonna help much, and she also tends to regard it as a game and spends most of the time trying to stick her fingers up our noses instead of settling to sleep

We've tried DP with the night-weaning and she will settle for him fine initially, but still just wakes up again. I was keeping a sleep log for a while, and there wasn't really a pattern to her waking - other than the 10pm ish one, her other wakeups are all over the place - and she will actually settle (and stay asleep) without a feed (for either of us) if its only been an hour or two since she had one. So it kind of seems like its not bad habits/inability to self settle. I reckon I'll just keep feeding her for now, go with what works, and TRY not to worry about the future - she's gonna figure it out herself eventually, right? ]]> Tue, 11 Jan 2011 16:05:52 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1237235&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1237235 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1237111&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1237111 Author: crafty1
Subject: 37231
Posted: 11 January 2011 at 2:13pm

hils10 - i think if you plan on night feeding for a long time then co-sleeping is your best option to get more sleep. Just too damn hard otherwise. How old is your little one?

Babies definitely can go without being fed at night, but most are also happy to be fed at night. I always think it is up to you and your style of parenting, that's why so many of the night feeding gals co-sleep, because it's the best way to get more sleep. It's usually some variety of tough love to cut those night feeds and some people just aren't into that. I think if you aren't then forget what others say and embrace the parenting style you've chosen. If you choose it then maybe you'll feel less controlled and frustrated by it iykwim.

kiwimum - my excellent sleeping DS1's sleep actually got worse as he got older and he is worse now than my terrible newborn sleeping DS2. It does sound a bit like sep anxiety to me, hopefully it will pass and you can survive the next few months till it does. I wouldn't worry too much about forming habits at this age as you know he can sleep well. Does your dh/dp help? The thing that saved me was me and dh taking turns to do nights. So every second night i get to sleep, put my earplugs in and just switch off. It was not easy the first few nights but i really do switch off straightaway now. Actually dh was always better at settling DS2 than me. ]]> Tue, 11 Jan 2011 14:13:32 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1237111&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1237111 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1237103&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1237103 Author: T_Rex
Subject: 37231
Posted: 11 January 2011 at 2:10pm

Hils, how old is your DD?

First up, ignore the pressure! The only one who should be bothered by the situation is you and your DH. If it helps, my mum co-slept and fed to sleep all her babies for every sleep and we all sleep fine now - and did from as long as I can remember, and I'm one of the older ones, so I don't recall their being a big drama when the younger ones got weaned, so they must have slept somehow. It isn't forever. That said, it wasn't for me and I've at least got a DD I can rock to sleep quite easily.

I've just night weaned her nearly a week ago. We got DH to do it, seeing as he is on leave atm. We decided if it was him, she wasn't going to expect a feed (she's only ever been BF, only had one bottle of EBM from DH when she was tiny). The first night she cried and raged, but partly cos DH was trying to reason with her and talk to her to settle her down, when really she was tired and he should have just stuck to the lullaby and rocking. I went in and took over with the lullaby and rocking and she went to sleep. The next wakeup, and all the wakeups since then, DH has settled her pretty quickly. Even sometimes he's been able to get her to sleep without picking her up which is massive progress, considering this time a week ago she was being fed to sleep for all her night wakings. Could your DH have a go? I think part of our success is because it was him not me, so she now gives up on the feed as soon as she spots him and is happy for him just to send her back to sleep. One thing that causes her to wakeup again very quickly here is the cold? If she's not dressed warmly enough or kicking her blankets off?

If she IS waking out of hunger, I would just feed her and be done with it. Have you tried doing a sleep log? They are quite handy to get a *big picture* view of how the nights are going? Our last one showed us very clearly that she was waking every 2 hours to be resettled. I think wakings a lot shorter than that indicate some kind of discomfort, rather than an inability to self-settle, whether it be cold, teeth, hunger... don't you wish they could talk?!]]> Tue, 11 Jan 2011 14:10:31 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1237103&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1237103 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1236969&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1236969 Author: hils10
Subject: 37231
Posted: 11 January 2011 at 12:48pm

I know what you mean Lizzie, I feel like I am doing things "wrong" as well. We have resorted to rocking our DD off to sleep a lot lately, esp for her nap - she used to self settle but now seems to just not be able to switch off. Over the past week I have tried leaving her to settle herself - one time she actually went to sleep after 20 min of crawling aroudn in the cot, but the other times she is still flailing about after 40-45 mins (despite being obviously tired) so I have gone in a rocked her to sleep. We don't have an issue with bedtime screaming, she is often not crying at all during that 40-45 mins, but is just not able to go to sleep ((she only has one nap a day now, and will go to sleep quite quickly when rocked so is obviously really ready for it!).

She is waking 2-4 times a night too, and having 2 overnight feeds. My attempts at night weaning are NOT working and I'm beginning to think she does actually need some food - despite what Plunket and the doctor and everyone else says she "should" be doing at this age.

Usually she wakes around 3 hrs after going down, and will go back to sleep with a cuddle, but will not STAY asleep - sometimes she wakes after 5-10 mins, sometimes we get another whole sleep cycle of 45 mins - and then if I cuddle her back to sleep again the whole process repeats. But if I give her a little formula (like 100-120 mls) she will sleep another few hours (like sometimes even 4-6 hrs). I'm beginning to think trying to night wean her is making her more unsettled and that I should just feed her and be done with it.

I'm feeling really fed up with it at the moment - partly with our inability to improve her sleeping, and partly with feeling pressure that she should be self-settling and not feeding at night. Sometimes I think life would be easier if I just ignored all that and rocked her to sleep, fed her at night etc - but then I wonder if she will EVER develop good sleeping habits and I would REALLY like her to cut down on her night waking!

Phew, that was a bit of a novel - feel better now I got that off my chest though]]> Tue, 11 Jan 2011 12:48:07 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1236969&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1236969 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1236950&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1236950 Author: kiwimum2010
Subject: 37231
Posted: 11 January 2011 at 12:24pm

Gosh so many of us with sleeping probs. My DS was a pretty good night sleeper, he is 13 months tomorrow but from 10 1/2 months his sleeps are terrible. Up at least once every night - I know thats good for some of you, but some nights he is up 5 x ie last night. He started walking at the same time his night sleeps went bad! He is changing down to one 3 hour day sleep now (from 2 sleeps) and nothing else has changed. His first 8 teeth the front ones we had no probs with, lately his first molar and 2nd one are coming through. He cries to sleep if I dont rock him and he has to be sound asleep before I put him in his cot. If not he wakes and screams and real tears. He wakes through the night and if I go straight in I can give him his toy back again (he sucks it! - soft toy) and he will go back to sleep, however if I leave him he stands up in his cot and screams and gets hysterical and cries! I am happy to leave cry for a bit, but not a hysterical real tears cry! Nothing else has changed. Do you think this is now a habbit his struggling to go down before either day or night sleep and his night waking??? Or is it teething etc? Anyone else had this with a 13 month old???]]> Tue, 11 Jan 2011 12:24:53 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1236950&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1236950 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1236914&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1236914 Author: 1st_Time_Preggies
Subject: 37231
Posted: 11 January 2011 at 11:56am

Awww so cute Lizze! ]]> Tue, 11 Jan 2011 11:56:41 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1236914&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1236914 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1236912&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1236912 Author: 1st_Time_Preggies
Subject: 37231
Posted: 11 January 2011 at 11:55am

That's a pretty good night lil_nic9! Well done Lily. Not the BEST night here. Would NOT go down at bedtime, then woke 3/4 hourly till I tried to go to bed.

So I thought bugger it, I will just take him to bed with me straight off the bat so we MIGHT manage to both get some sleep. He had a bad patch around midnight again where I had to pace up and down the hallway, but the rest of the wake ups, I just cuddled him and he went back to sleep.]]> Tue, 11 Jan 2011 11:55:38 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1236912&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1236912 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1236910&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1236910 Author: Lizze
Subject: 37231
Posted: 11 January 2011 at 11:53am

as bad as it sounds i'm so pleased i'm not in this boat by myself

I KNOW i'm doing things wrong.. I feed DS to sleep for all of his feeds, if he won't settle I can rock him to sleep, when he is at his Nannas she rocks him to sleep in the push chair.
But... I don't know how to get him out of that habit now, he seems too old, and I WONT let him CIO.

We increased DS's losec the other week, as I know it is helping a bit, but not fixing the problem. When we stopped it for a few days over xmas while the pharmacys were closed he was terrible.
He's now more settled, however is waking hourly instead of 2-3 hourly!!!
We end up co sleeping from about 2am, and I woke up this morning facing away from him and he had his arm over me ... aww.. ]]> Tue, 11 Jan 2011 11:53:50 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1236910&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1236910 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1236887&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1236887 Author: High9
Subject: 37231
Posted: 11 January 2011 at 11:33am

Well we had a better night last night... She slept from 8.15-10.30 and I went to move her to her cot but she stirred a bit (enough for me to know she wouldn't go down without a fuss 5 mins later iygwim) so I gave her a dream feed and she slept until 11.30... Uhh oh I thought! But fed her and she went back to sleep until 4.30! (Yay!) and then until 7... I tried to BF her back to sleep at 7 but she woke when I put her down! Oh well!

ETA: Am happy with that, her top tooth has moved down quite a bit so I think it's causing less problem iygwim!

Edited by Lil_Nic9]]> Tue, 11 Jan 2011 11:33:42 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1236887&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1236887 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1236548&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1236548 Author: High9
Subject: 37231
Posted: 10 January 2011 at 9:44pm

Yes, my body has adjusted to it after a couple of rough nights now lol, after so many months it's sorta just like *sigh* least I know she CAN do it...

I do miss her when she does sleep well... But suppose we all have our bad nights too! ]]> Mon, 10 Jan 2011 21:44:39 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1236548&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1236548 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1236381&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1236381 Author: T_Rex
Subject: 37231
Posted: 10 January 2011 at 7:34pm

You poor things, I hope you got some rest today!! ]]> Mon, 10 Jan 2011 19:34:30 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1236381&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1236381 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1236335&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1236335 Author: 1st_Time_Preggies
Subject: 37231
Posted: 10 January 2011 at 6:43pm

Me too Lil_Nic9!!!! Let me know how you go.]]> Mon, 10 Jan 2011 18:43:42 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1236335&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1236335 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1236262&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1236262 Author: High9
Subject: 37231
Posted: 10 January 2011 at 4:40pm

We had a rough night too, sounds similar to yours but ours is just teeth!

She went to bed at 8.15 fine, slept until 10 ish and went to her cot fine, woke at 11, 1, 2, 2.30, 3 and wouldn't go back to bed... Ended up giving her pamol and bonjela and still a no go getting her off (everytime I put her down she cried despite being sound asleep for about 5-10 mins in my arms!) wasn't hot or cold.

I ended up bringing her lil mattress from the porta cot plus all her cot quilts and making a lil bed for us and we slept on the lounge floor so could just BF her easily (didn't want to give DP a rough night!) and played some 'soothing' music and she slept from about 4-7 without waking and played quietly until 8 so I got an extra hour lightly napping while she played.

Am hoping we both have better nights tonight! ]]> Mon, 10 Jan 2011 16:40:32 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1236262&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1236262 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1235990&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1235990 Author: 1st_Time_Preggies
Subject: 37231
Posted: 10 January 2011 at 12:19pm

Those damn teeth! They have a lot to answer for!!!

Total shocker of a night last night. The worst yet. BUT he is sick, a probable ear infection

Woke about three times before 10pm, then wouldn't sleep and kept crying. Ended up taking him to Ascot at 1.30am, and all they did was give him nurofen! Could have done that at home. Thought he would be exhausted when we got home but had to take him in the pram around the block at 3.30am to get him off to sleep! And even then he woke up 1/2 an hour later

FINALLY fell asleep on me at 4am till 7am and is still horrible grizzly and sad today ]]> Mon, 10 Jan 2011 12:19:53 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1235990&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1235990 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1235705&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1235705 Author: High9
Subject: 37231
Posted: 09 January 2011 at 10:22pm

We had our bad night last night! Not sure what was up...

Everything was all fine... She slept from about 8.30-2... The woke at 2... 3... And decided 4am was the best time to start the day! Argh!

So she wasn't going to go back to bed despite me trying from 4-4.45 so we got up and she played happily in the lounge, got a bit grizzly round 6am and offered her some pamol and tried to get her back down in her cot - no go (it was light outside) and then at 6.30 dp decided to go sleep on the couch and I bought her to bed with me. She slept for an hour and then my mum came and took her for a walk, DP looked after her from about 8-10 so I got some sleep!

She slept from 11-2 but didn't have an afternoon nap and went to bed at 8.15, made a peep about 20 mins ago (10pm) so moved her to her cot... Hoping for a better night tonight but I can see a few teeth, 3 that look like they might come through in the next couple of weeks... ]]> Sun, 09 Jan 2011 22:22:59 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1235705&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1235705 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1235195&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1235195 Author: 1st_Time_Preggies
Subject: 37231
Posted: 09 January 2011 at 7:00am

Glad you have figured out what is causing Lily to wake up at night Lil_nic9, that must feel great!

Well another bad night here. Went down okay, but woke twice in the first two hours and a few times after that but I ended up bringing him in bed with me so I lost count.

He is definitely sick though, so all bets are off ]]> Sun, 09 Jan 2011 07:00:42 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1235195&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1235195 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1234717&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1234717 Author: High9
Subject: 37231
Posted: 08 January 2011 at 11:51am

We had a rough night here too and it wasn't until she woke for the 3rd time since 9pm at 2am that I realised I had forgotten to give her bonjela before bed so quickly gave her some and she slept until 7.30 (longest she's slept in for in ages! Normally it's 6-7am!)

Anyway, keep doing what you are doing because as you said, you didn't do anything differently and something clearly worked, like Trex said, 2 steps forward 1 step back, and if he was feeling under the weather, that could have had something to do with it! All the best for tonight! ]]> Sat, 08 Jan 2011 11:51:27 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1234717&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1234717 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1234702&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1234702 Author: tiptoes
Subject: 37231
Posted: 08 January 2011 at 11:31am

Sucks when you get your hopes up that things have turned the corner, only to slip back. We've had a similar thing. A couple of weeks ago we finally had a week of 2 sleep throughs (first in 6 months) and 5 of the 7 nights DS was in his cot all night, so instead of bringing him into our bed I managed to resettle him in his cot.   But then things seemed to slip back again and we've only had a couple of nights in his cot all night and I don't think anymore sleep throughs. BUT I'm trying to just remember that now I know that he can do it and I didn't really do anything different, he just did it naturally. Just like you guys. So I guess what I'm saying is although it's not all smooth sailing like we want, if we just keep doing what we're doing then we'll have happy sleeping babies without CIO soon and we'll have nice full sleeps too

Hopefully that's not too Pollyanna ]]> Sat, 08 Jan 2011 11:31:45 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1234702&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1234702 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1234661&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1234661 Author: T_Rex
Subject: 37231
Posted: 08 January 2011 at 10:29am

whoops, sorry for jinxing you!!

Hang in there, he's allowed to have bad nights (he'd have them even if you let him CIO), just suck it up and try again tomorrow

]]> Sat, 08 Jan 2011 10:29:04 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1234661&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1234661 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1234588&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1234588 Author: 1st_Time_Preggies
Subject: 37231
Posted: 08 January 2011 at 7:29am

Haha you were SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooo right T-Rex! I felt VERY depressed when I got up this morning as we are basically back to square one after last night.

Crying at bedtime, even cuddling wouldn't settle. Ended up feeding    Then woke an hour and a half later, fed. At 10.30pm, brought him into bed with me, and he woke numerous times in the night, mostly being comfort fed back to sleep

So I feel like all that hard work has been totally wiped out by one night    However, he was under the weather yesterday, didn't eat his dinner, so I'm sure that was most of the problem.

I guess I should be thankful for that one night but I was truly hoping I might get a few more ]]> Sat, 08 Jan 2011 07:29:19 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1234588&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1234588 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1234386&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1234386 Author: T_Rex
Subject: 37231
Posted: 07 January 2011 at 7:53pm

Remember also that it is often two steps forward, one step back, three steps sideways etc

I made a breakthrough a week or so ago, was over the moon, next time, no go, not even close, and I was all down in the dumps, then night 3, back to progress again. A few good nights, then tonight, all boo hoo again. So hang in there. Thats 2 good sleeps recently, so there'll likely be more ]]> Fri, 07 Jan 2011 19:53:35 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1234386&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1234386 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1234314&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1234314 Author: High9
Subject: 37231
Posted: 07 January 2011 at 6:33pm

Never say never at even if he doesn't at least you know he can do it! FX he does though! ]]> Fri, 07 Jan 2011 18:33:45 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1234314&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1234314 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1234305&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1234305 Author: 1st_Time_Preggies
Subject: 37231
Posted: 07 January 2011 at 6:18pm

Yes hils10! Yesterday my DS fell asleep for his nap sitting, with his head forward laying down IYKWIM. He woke up super grumpy and still tired!

Anyway, my DS has been upset and crying on and off all day so I suspect he is either getting sick or teething. Or had too much sleep last night

He has had two good naps today, but I fear tonight will not go well and that last night was just a fluke

He hardly ate his dinner which is never a good sign.

Just when I thought I was making some progress ]]> Fri, 07 Jan 2011 18:18:44 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1234305&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1234305 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1233925&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1233925 Author: hils10
Subject: 37231
Posted: 07 January 2011 at 10:29am

My theory is that at the end of the day, that babies just figure it out in their own time you just gotta give them what they need until they do. And most of the time what we do probably makes less of a difference than we think!

I like to think we are making a small amount of progress too, as last night DD only had one feed at 2am. But I had to give her pamol to get her to sleep that long as she woke at 7pm, 8pm and 9pm pulling at her mouth (after going to sleep at 6pm).

And she's just settled herself for a nap but I fear she's gonna wake after 40 mins cos she is in a really uncomfortable looking position! Does anyone else's baby do that? Crawl around in the cot before going to sleep and then end up all contorted? DD has only just learnt to crawl in the last month so this is a new experience for me.]]> Fri, 07 Jan 2011 10:29:22 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1233925&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1233925 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1233913&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1233913 Author: 1st_Time_Preggies
Subject: 37231
Posted: 07 January 2011 at 10:02am

That's the thing, I have done NOTHING differently!!!!!! ]]> Fri, 07 Jan 2011 10:02:01 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1233913&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1233913 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1233880&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1233880 Author: naysgirl
Subject: 37231
Posted: 07 January 2011 at 9:30am

Thats awesome, you must feel great to have gotten a decent nights sleep for a change. Good to see all your hard work is starting to pay off. And good on you for sticking to your guns and doing what you feel is right.]]> Fri, 07 Jan 2011 09:30:33 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1233880&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1233880 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1233792&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1233792 Author: High9
Subject: 37231
Posted: 07 January 2011 at 7:50am

Awwww!!!

So what's different?!

Glad things have changed for you! That's fantastic!

Ours was def teeth related pain and so have been giving her 1 dose of bonjela before bed and she's only been waking once! But she has been going to bed later because of the heat! ]]> Fri, 07 Jan 2011 07:50:21 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1233792&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1233792 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1233769&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1233769 Author: 1st_Time_Preggies
Subject: 37231
Posted: 07 January 2011 at 6:57am

Guess what??? Last night my little man slept through the night from 7.30pm till 6.15am!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He hasn't done that in MONTHS. Part of me knows it was probably a one off but I am SUPER proud anyway ]]> Fri, 07 Jan 2011 06:57:43 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1233769&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1233769 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1233209&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1233209 Author: hils10
Subject: 37231
Posted: 06 January 2011 at 2:21pm

Thats great! Let us know if it continues, it gives me hope.]]> Thu, 06 Jan 2011 14:21:38 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1233209&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1233209 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1233086&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1233086 Author: tiptoes
Subject: 37231
Posted: 06 January 2011 at 11:35am

That's awesome progress!!!! Yay!! ]]> Thu, 06 Jan 2011 11:35:16 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1233086&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1233086 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1233082&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1233082 Author: High9
Subject: 37231
Posted: 06 January 2011 at 11:26am

That is fantastic!!! ]]> Thu, 06 Jan 2011 11:26:34 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1233082&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1233082 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1232959&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1232959 Author: 1st_Time_Preggies
Subject: 37231
Posted: 06 January 2011 at 9:09am

Nothing to do with me really ]]> Thu, 06 Jan 2011 09:09:59 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1232959&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1232959 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1232949&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1232949 Author: T_Rex
Subject: 37231
Posted: 06 January 2011 at 8:58am

Well done you ]]> Thu, 06 Jan 2011 08:58:51 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1232949&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1232949 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1232894&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1232894 Author: 1st_Time_Preggies
Subject: 37231
Posted: 06 January 2011 at 7:53am

Two great day sleeps again yesterday, then crying again at bedtime    I thought I had cracked it! However I only needed to give him a cuddle and a bit of a sing and he was off to sleep. Not sure what is up with that!

Then.....he slept till 2.15am!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I even heard him wake at midnight ish and go back to sleep. I got him up, rocked and sang to him, but cried when I put him back down. Turns out he was wet    Ended up feeding him as he wouldn't settle down to sleep. But then slept till 7am! That is the best sleep we have had in months!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And a reprieve from DH ]]> Thu, 06 Jan 2011 07:53:21 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1232894&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1232894 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1232774&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1232774 Author: kmarie
Subject: 37231
Posted: 05 January 2011 at 9:37pm

Sounds like you're making great progress :) Haven't had a chance to read fully, but have you thought of giving him a 'cuddly' of some sort to snuggle as he goes to sleep? I started putting a few soft toys in Kaitlyn's cot recently to see if she'd take to any of them, and now she falls asleep with one hand holding her pink bunny over her face, while sucking her other thumb. Sooo cute, and great for helping her settle on those unsettled nights. (I have to confess though that's she's been a sleeper since day 1, SUCH a contrast to Bethany who didn't know what sleep was, day or night, until she turned 1!!) All the best with the sleeping improving and starting work xx

Edited by kmarie]]> Wed, 05 Jan 2011 21:37:16 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1232774&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1232774 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1232572&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1232572 Author: Lizze
Subject: 37231
Posted: 05 January 2011 at 6:03pm

Glad you are making some progress!

I wouldn't leave him to cry either since you making huge progress, I wish my nights were as good as yours!!]]> Wed, 05 Jan 2011 18:03:26 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1232572&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1232572 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1232444&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1232444 Author: millymollymandy
Subject: 37231
Posted: 05 January 2011 at 3:09pm

I went the crying route and I still cuddle, if she wakes up upset! I just cuddle for comfort and not to put to sleep. Mostly it stops the crying and she goes back to sleep soon after I leave.

Good to see some progress.]]> Wed, 05 Jan 2011 15:09:48 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1232444&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1232444 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1232194&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1232194 Author: High9
Subject: 37231
Posted: 05 January 2011 at 9:58am

It sounds like some progress! And any progress is better than none imo!

Agree with T-rex, it may be confusing for him too... ]]> Wed, 05 Jan 2011 09:58:36 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1232194&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1232194 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1232126&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1232126 Author: 1st_Time_Preggies
Subject: 37231
Posted: 05 January 2011 at 8:22am

Yeah that is partly why I don't want to T-Rex. We are making progress without tears, so why not give it a bit longer? That will be my argument anyway    I want to still be able to cuddle and possibly feed if required and that wont be an option if we go the crying route.]]> Wed, 05 Jan 2011 08:22:27 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1232126&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1232126 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1232117&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1232117 Author: T_Rex
Subject: 37231
Posted: 05 January 2011 at 8:09am

Just a thought, but if you do leave him to cry, that will have to be the approach from now on, because it is likely to undo the security that he obviously now has with his cot. So he may be less likely than he is now to settle without tears for some time.

You know I wouldn't do it, but I'm lucky enough that my DH supports my approach. It must be hard when he doesn't ]]> Wed, 05 Jan 2011 08:09:06 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1232117&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1232117 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1232098&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1232098 Author: 1st_Time_Preggies
Subject: 37231
Posted: 05 January 2011 at 7:25am

That is such awesome sleeping Lily!!! You must be stoked Lil_Nic9.

Well for the first time in about six weeks, my little guy went to sleep at bedtime without a fuss! I put my shirt underneath his head and I had given him pamol an hour before. So now I'm not sure which one if any helped

He woke at 10.30pm, quick cuddle then back to sleep. However awake again at midnight. My DH tried to settle him back to sleep but after more than 1/2 an hour gave up. I ended up feeding him. He then woke again at 3.30am, but quick cuddle and back to sleep till 7am.

So it feels like we are making SOME progress?? I will still probably take him to the Dr today I think. Cause that midnight waking is always really hard to settle.

Now to convince my hubby that tonight we do not need to leave him to cry! ]]> Wed, 05 Jan 2011 07:25:54 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1232098&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1232098 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1231794&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1231794 Author: millymollymandy
Subject: 37231
Posted: 04 January 2011 at 6:26pm

Scented cuddly blanket is great. We used for ages, I don't bother anymore as the cuddly and small girl are permanently attached LOL. IMHO - its a great sleep tool, but not a panacea for fixing sleep issues.

]]> Tue, 04 Jan 2011 18:26:03 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1231794&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1231794 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1231723&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1231723 Author: High9
Subject: 37231
Posted: 04 January 2011 at 3:35pm

I second the shirt under his head, I think the scent would be reassuring like co sleeping iygwim!

Last night was the same as the night before, I think her teeth are really hurting her but instead of pamol DP gave her bonjela and she slept 9.30-3 and 3-6.30 so I am really pleased!

I think she's a bit like me - high pain threshold because she doesn't cry or scream with her teeth (just a bit grizzly) so the pamol or bonjela seems to be working but I don't want to over do it and the one dose seems to work.

Have you been to the docs yet? ]]> Tue, 04 Jan 2011 15:35:08 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1231723&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1231723 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1231658&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1231658 Author: HippyMama
Subject: 37231
Posted: 04 January 2011 at 1:18pm

Listen to your heart honey, and please show your hubby that article I posted earlier. Your instincts are screaming out loud and clear and I think you're doing a wonderful job so far.

When I was really struggling and starting to think about actively night weaning DD2 I decided to set some boundaries first, ie: just one breastfeed a night if she really *really* couldn't resettle - I think the boundaries really helped and were what led her to nightwean on her own in the end anyway.]]> Tue, 04 Jan 2011 13:18:30 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1231658&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1231658 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1231648&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1231648 Author: 1st_Time_Preggies
Subject: 37231
Posted: 04 January 2011 at 1:03pm

Thanks guys, I am trying to convince my hubby that things ARE improving and that there will ALWAYS be time for CC later on.

Hils10 I have tried a shirt in his bed but not under his head. Will try that one tonight!]]> Tue, 04 Jan 2011 13:03:37 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1231648&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1231648 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1231633&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1231633 Author: hils10
Subject: 37231
Posted: 04 January 2011 at 12:25pm

I reckon you should try to hold off on the CC thing if you really don't want to do it, seeing as you seem to be making some progress!

I which I could say the same here... we have decided to try to cut down to one feed a night, and break the habit of waking and having a bottle around 10pm at night. Last night DD was asleep at 6.30pm, had a couple of brief cries that just needed a quick pat at 8.30 and 9.30pm then woke up properly at 10.30pm. We tried resettling without a feed, which looked like it was going to work but she only slept 5 mins then was awake again - did that twice so on the 3rd time (now an hour later!) we gave up and gave her a 120ml bottle of diluted formula which sent her right off to sleep properly. Only one more wakeup and brief bf the rest of the night though so wasn't too bad in the end.   I can't decide whether its better to go cold turkey on dropping the feed, or gradually dilute it out. Anyway will try again tonight.

BTW, have you tried having him sleep on a T-shirt you've been wearing? The really good sleeps our DD has had lately have been when she's got a T-shirt of mine under her head! ]]> Tue, 04 Jan 2011 12:25:18 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1231633&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1231633 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1231584&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1231584 Author: tiptoes
Subject: 37231
Posted: 04 January 2011 at 10:36am

It might be worth going to the doctor just in case but can you say to your husband that things are already improving with that 1.30-7am sleep? Perhaps find some info on separation anxiety etc to show him it's normal?

It must be a hard situation to be in when you're not wanting to try CC but your husband is insisting ]]> Tue, 04 Jan 2011 10:36:13 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1231584&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1231584 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1231511&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1231511 Author: 1st_Time_Preggies
Subject: 37231
Posted: 04 January 2011 at 7:41am

PS How did Lily get on last night lil_nic? Hope it was a repeat of the night before!]]> Tue, 04 Jan 2011 07:41:00 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1231511&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1231511 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1231510&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1231510 Author: 1st_Time_Preggies
Subject: 37231
Posted: 04 January 2011 at 7:40am

Two great day sleeps yesterday again.

Still wouldn't settle at bedtime though, so cuddled and rocked till drowsy then asleep by 7.25pm.

Woke at 10pm, cuddled/rocked back to sleep.

Woke again at 1230am, cuddled/rocked and back to sleep, but awake again half an hour later. Fed and back to sleep by 1.30am and slept from then till 7am!

So still not ideal, but I feel better that he is only getting one feed at night.

Tomorrow is "d day" and my hubby wants me to take him to the Dr to get checked out before he tries CC/verbal reassurance. My heart is screaming no!!!! ]]> Tue, 04 Jan 2011 07:40:23 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1231510&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1231510 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1231163&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1231163 Author: 1st_Time_Preggies
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Posted: 03 January 2011 at 2:20pm

Yay awesome work Lily!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!]]> Mon, 03 Jan 2011 14:20:38 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1231163&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1231163 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1231037&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1231037 Author: High9
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Posted: 03 January 2011 at 10:42am

I think it could be, seeing as he stayed asleep from 2-6 with you, you could try putting something with your scent on in his cot like where his head goes and see if that does the trick...
I've noticed the same thing with DD on occasion.

I did the pamol trick before bed last night and my dd went down at 7.30, she woke at 8.20 (dog barking) so I transferred her from our bed to her cot and she slept from 8.30 (after a quick feed) until 4am! I was so stoked! First time in... well first time!!
She's teething atm, got 2 of them and I can see another 4 moving round too (but will be a while off), I'm very reluctant to give pamol or bonjela though unless I know it's absolutely necessary or she's inconsolable
The last 2 weeks she's been waking 2 hourly.
She normally does a 3 hour stretch max. It gets very tiring!

ETA: Lily was 2 hourly day and night (feeding) until 7 months, then she stretched her night sleeps out by 1 hour to 3...

Edited by Lil_Nic9]]> Mon, 03 Jan 2011 10:42:12 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1231037&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1231037 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1230963&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1230963 Author: 1st_Time_Preggies
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Posted: 03 January 2011 at 9:12am

PS Any ideas why he wouldn't go down at midnight? Could it be separation anxiety?]]> Mon, 03 Jan 2011 09:12:15 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1230963&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1230963 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1230961&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1230961 Author: 1st_Time_Preggies
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Posted: 03 January 2011 at 9:11am

Interesting day yesterday!!! I put my DS down for a nap at 10am and 2.30pm and he went down WITHOUT screaming! AND slept an hour and an hour and a half - AMAZING. I prayed that it would mean that his night would be better but no

I put him down at 7.30pm and he screamed and did his usual. However I picked him up, sung our lullaby and he fell asleep on my shoulder. For some reason that makes me feel better than feeding him!

He then woke at 11.30pm, and I rocked and sung him to sleep on me again. No feeding!

However he then woke again at 12.30am and I rocked him and sung to him as before. He fell asleep but the moment I put him in his cot, awake and crying. Tried again, fell asleep, then awake the minute he went into his cot. Third time I fed him, but then he did the exact same thing!!!!

At 2am I brought him into bed with me, he fell asleep and stayed that way till 6am!

So although it wasn't the best night, I do sort of feel like I am making progress? Sort of ]]> Mon, 03 Jan 2011 09:11:46 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1230961&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1230961 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1230629&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1230629 Author: T_Rex
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Posted: 02 January 2011 at 4:29pm

Just a thought with the FenPaed, it is recommended to give it with food because it increases the acidity of the stomach. I have a refluxer too, so acid is already a problem, so I will only give it with solids, not BM and even then it still gives her a bit of a sore tum. Perhaps tonight give him a dose with his dinner and see if it helps? That way the benefits won't be undone by an uncomfy tummy.]]> Sun, 02 Jan 2011 16:29:14 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1230629&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1230629 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1230459&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1230459 Author: Keleho
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Posted: 02 January 2011 at 10:46am

I cant offer much advice re the sleep as DD is a bit touch and go at the moment too. Fights going to sleep with both day and night sleeps, whereas before she was really good at self settling. For us it coincided with her started to crawl.
We dont have several wake ups in the night like you - usually just the one but she can be awake for about 2 hours.
As others suggested, perhaps a visit to your GP for a full check over couldnt hurt. I hope you have some luck soon with whatever method you choose. Huge hugs to you - sleep deprivation is bloody hard work!!

Lizzie - DD is on Losec for reflux and a couple of months ago, I ran out without realising. The two days she was off the meds while I got a script etc she was a nightmare - in huge amounts of pain, throwing up everywhere. Apparently, if you suddenly stop reflux meds, it causes a spike in stomach acidity (higher than it was) and so can cause horrendous pain/throwing up for a few days to a week (depending on circumstances). Not doing that again in a hurry ]]> Sun, 02 Jan 2011 10:46:54 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1230459&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1230459 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1230458&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1230458 Author: Lizze
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Posted: 02 January 2011 at 10:45am

He was waking screaming, arching his back and had alot of wind so he couldnt settle until he had let out a few farts.. the losec has definetly reduced the wind he has
I had my sister babysit one evening and he did the same for her and she said it sounded like he was in pain.. my next step is to get my mum to stay one night and try and deal with him so I'm still there if things turn bad, and she can see whats he's doing and let us know if she thinks its habit or not]]> Sun, 02 Jan 2011 10:45:21 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1230458&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1230458 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1230424&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1230424 Author: 1st_Time_Preggies
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Posted: 02 January 2011 at 9:47am

Hi Lizze, thanks for sharing your story, I must admit I am thankful someone else is in the same boat! :-) My DS USED to be on losec when he was very little, but I thought it was something they grew out of? How are you coping working as well! You are a super mum :-) We are looking at CC only because I am struggling with the sleep deprivation now and I think I will lose the plot if this continues when I start work next month. I am totally dreading it though, and am worried that there is a REASON why he is crying, and I am just missing it.

Have you decided your bubba is waking out of pain rather than habit?? How did you come to that conclusion?]]> Sun, 02 Jan 2011 09:47:01 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1230424&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1230424 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1230413&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1230413 Author: Lizze
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Posted: 02 January 2011 at 9:34am

OH we are also trying losec, however he is on such a small dose I'm not sure its helping (2.5mg).. but we ran out of it last week and the last few nights have been terrible so I think it was helping some.. so silent reflux could be something to consider?]]> Sun, 02 Jan 2011 09:34:16 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1230413&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1230413 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1230412&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1230412 Author: Lizze
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Posted: 02 January 2011 at 9:33am

Just wanted to let you know that your diary is identical to ours as well, lol

Almost 12 months old, and the best stretch he can do during the night is 3 hours, then he is up 1-2 hourly screaming, but we can give him pamol and it helps him sleep longer.

We have resorted to co-sleeping from about 2am when I go and sleep in his room so DP can get a good sleep for work. I don't want to give up breastfeeding until he is ready so for now we are just going with it... and I"m working 4 days a week and your body just copes!

Would love to hear if any of you guys crack the problem though, but we're not willing to try CC or CIO, he gets too worked up and ends up with more wind problems when he screams so doesn't help with anything]]> Sun, 02 Jan 2011 09:33:12 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=37231&PID=1230412&title=his-sleeping-is-getting-worse#1230412