OHbaby! Forums : Hospital Stay https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Wed, 29 Apr 2026 23:52:28 +0000 Mon, 04 Jul 2011 12:34:09 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.05 360 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=39729 <![CDATA[OHbaby! Forums]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_images/web_wiz_forums.png https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/ <![CDATA[Hospital Stay : Hi Kelzie Rose, congratulations...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39729&PID=1357394&title=hospital-stay#1357394 Author: Jacobsmumma
Subject: 39729
Posted: 04 July 2011 at 12:34pm

Hi Kelzie Rose, congratulations on your pregnancy, that's very exciting news!

I'm also based on the North Shore and I had booked into Birthcare Parnell for DS birth, but due to some minor complications, was transferred to Auckland Hospital.  After many more hours of labour I ended up having an emerg c-sec.  I was planning on spending the entire 5 nights at the hospital as I had my own private room, but after one night I quickly changed my mind and relocated back to Birthcare.  It was pure bliss and I had 4 nights there in a private room for free, because I had started labouring there.  Are you keen to try birthing at Birthcare Parnell?  The staff are extrememly helpful and the hospital is only 5 mins away.  That way you could hopefully avoid a hospital birth and relax after the birth in a really nice environment.  My mw use to work at BC once a week for antenatal visits, so I felt familiar with the place anyway. 

]]> Mon, 04 Jul 2011 12:34:09 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39729&PID=1357394&title=hospital-stay#1357394 <![CDATA[Hospital Stay : I was terrified of going to hospital...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39729&PID=1357313&title=hospital-stay#1357313 Author: Isabella
Subject: 39729
Posted: 04 July 2011 at 9:29am

I was terrified of going to hospital to have S!! Ended up having an emergency c/s and still only stayed 1 and a half nights (she was born close to midnight).. In the end it wasnt the fact I was scared to be in hospital (way too much else going on to worry about that! ) But I just wanted to go home to bond with S and was sick of a nurse coming in every 2 hours to take our temperatures!! :)]]> Mon, 04 Jul 2011 09:29:56 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39729&PID=1357313&title=hospital-stay#1357313 <![CDATA[Hospital Stay : Kelzie Rose So sorry to hear of...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39729&PID=1357225&title=hospital-stay#1357225 Author: InthemiddleMummy
Subject: 39729
Posted: 03 July 2011 at 9:32pm

Kelzie Rose
So sorry to hear of your angel babies and dislike for hospital. I have never had a miscarriage so have no idea what it would be like to go thru

I have had a few operations BUT being in the maternity ward/birthing suites with a wee babe in your arms is an amazing experience. I had a complicated vb birth and enjoyed every minute of my 5 day stay with my first born. MW were great but in TImaru we have the joy of our own room with a shared ensuite. the thought of going home with a baby I had no idea how to bf was far to scary to me and 2nd daily visits with MW just not enuf. I didnt want to leave until I had bf sorted.

But everyone is different one of my friends went home 3hr after birth and a few have had homebirths, but for me I enjoy the stay in hospital and help from midwives and visits from friends etc

You will find what works for you when the time comes play it by ear I say.
]]> Sun, 03 Jul 2011 21:32:20 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39729&PID=1357225&title=hospital-stay#1357225 <![CDATA[Hospital Stay : Hi Kelzie Rose, I had my DD at...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39729&PID=1356012&title=hospital-stay#1356012 Author: Hayz001
Subject: 39729
Posted: 30 June 2011 at 9:15pm

Hi Kelzie Rose, I had my DD at North shore hosp almost 5 months ago(and have also been lurking in a few of your threads and am soooo happy to see your new ticker - not a creepy stalker or anything!) and I loved my hospital stay.

The actual facilities and midwives etc were fine, but for me it was more about having those 3 days and nights where nothing exists outside of you and your new little family - you don't worry about things like bills, meals, telemarketers, knocks at the door etc etc - I think it is a blessed time that I will cherish forever . I can't begin to understand the negative associations you have with hospitals, but I would suggest that you do the tour of the birthing and maternity suites (we did ours as part of the antenatal classes held by the hopsital, but I belive you can do the tour separately)- as hopefully you could then see that particular part of the hospital as a (largely) joyous, miraculous and life affirming place that I for one felt privileged to be part of

]]> Thu, 30 Jun 2011 21:15:58 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39729&PID=1356012&title=hospital-stay#1356012 <![CDATA[Hospital Stay : Jack was born at about 7pm on...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39729&PID=1355213&title=hospital-stay#1355213 Author: myfullhouse
Subject: 39729
Posted: 29 June 2011 at 7:08pm

Jack was born at about 7pm on Tues night and I stayed at Waitakere till Friday morning. It wasn't the best stay as the lady in my room (2 of us in a 3 bed room) had visitors and call at all hours of the night. But I have to say that I would have prefered that over being at home. I was nervous with my first and felt safer at the hospital.

Ben was born at 2.30am and would have stayed a night at Waitakere then 2 at Helensville but Waitakere had no beds available so I went up to Helensville at lunchtime. Helensville was lovely and it was a great chance to rest.

This baby is planned for a Birthcare Parnell birth and a stay as long as I can!! I see it as my only chance to get a good rest before DH, the boys and the housework call!]]> Wed, 29 Jun 2011 19:08:37 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39729&PID=1355213&title=hospital-stay#1355213 <![CDATA[Hospital Stay : millemama wrote:I&#039;m thinking...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39729&PID=1355107&title=hospital-stay#1355107 Author: Hopes
Subject: 39729
Posted: 29 June 2011 at 4:24pm

Originally posted by millemama millemama wrote:

I'm thinking of going to Waikato and you are the first person I have heard talk about it. My reasoning is to be transferred to the birthing unit after. I tend to agree about hospitals, but the private one I had DD in was fantastic, would'nt have wanted to go home before I was ready as you need all the help you can get as first time Mum, and after 4 nights following CS I was ready for home and felt a lot more confident with everything.


I don't think Waikato is too bad as far as hospitals go, but I'd definitely try to transfer to a birthing centre. I had Jacob in RiverRidge, and the staff were amazing. I was there on my birthday (Jacob was born the day before), and they even gave me a bunch of flowers. Plus the food is awesome. Whereas I think the hospital has the usual hospital cons - hubbys can't stay, you might have to share a room, the staff seem busier.]]> Wed, 29 Jun 2011 16:24:44 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39729&PID=1355107&title=hospital-stay#1355107 <![CDATA[Hospital Stay : I&#039;m in the Waikato so not...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39729&PID=1355075&title=hospital-stay#1355075 Author: millemama
Subject: 39729
Posted: 29 June 2011 at 3:37pm

[QUOTE=Faffer]I'm in the Waikato so not sure how different it might be but the hospital stay was horrendous. Even though I had a private room it was so bloody noisy I didn't sleep a wink which was not fabulous after a 43hr (sleepless) labour There also seemed to be a new midwife looking after you everytime you turned around and they all had conflicting advice. Plus DH wasn't allowed to stay
I can't recommend the birthing unit we transferred to highly enough. The midwives were lovely and there was more continuity of care. Having your partner able to stay and help (especially when recovering from c-sec), and the peace and quiet (SLEEP!!!) was incredible. /QUOTE]

I'm thinking of going to Waikato and you are the first person I have heard talk about it. My reasoning is to be transferred to the birthing unit after. I tend to agree about hospitals, but the private one I had DD in was fantastic, would'nt have wanted to go home before I was ready as you need all the help you can get as first time Mum, and after 4 nights following CS I was ready for home and felt a lot more confident with everything.]]> Wed, 29 Jun 2011 15:37:30 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39729&PID=1355075&title=hospital-stay#1355075 <![CDATA[Hospital Stay : Hey Kelzie, it would be good to...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39729&PID=1355061&title=hospital-stay#1355061 Author: Bobchannz
Subject: 39729
Posted: 29 June 2011 at 3:08pm

Hey Kelzie, it would be good to discuss those feelings with your LMC and perhaps look at ways of managing any anxiety you feel?

I had to go to ED two years ago with bad asthma and was put opposite the room that I lost my daughter in - I burst into tears and made my asthma much worse. Even though I worked at the hospital, and had no problem going there everyday, I hadn't confronted the locations that were very stressful for me. I spent the first half of my pregnancy trying to work out clearly what my pregnancy/ birth fears were, and the second half working out ways to manage them. I was then able to enjoy the birth and postnatal stay.

Just a thought if the hospital is your birthing destiny - if there is no choice to birth there then you will need a good plan to deal with it.

Good luck.]]> Wed, 29 Jun 2011 15:08:50 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39729&PID=1355061&title=hospital-stay#1355061 <![CDATA[Hospital Stay : Hi Kelzie Although we can stay...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39729&PID=1355042&title=hospital-stay#1355042 Author: Panda289
Subject: 39729
Posted: 29 June 2011 at 2:44pm

Hi Kelzie Although we can stay up to three days at my hospital you can leave after just 4 hours if everything is ok! The midwives will just come and visit you at home. I don't like the idea of sharing a room with up to 5 other mothers and babies So hoping to stay at the very latest just one night there.. we are 5 minutes away if we need to go back anyway.]]> Wed, 29 Jun 2011 14:44:53 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39729&PID=1355042&title=hospital-stay#1355042 <![CDATA[Hospital Stay : Kelz you can deliver at Nth shore...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39729&PID=1354979&title=hospital-stay#1354979 Author: MrsMJD
Subject: 39729
Posted: 29 June 2011 at 1:11pm

Kelz you can deliver at Nth shore and transfer to either Helensville or warkworth or if your midwife has access actually deliver at either place. Or you can go home. The thing with public hospitals is that they can't make you stay or leave. However if you chose to leave earlier than they feel is safe they may make you sign a form saying that you chose to leave AMA or against medical advice. This will protect the hospital and staff from repercussions if things go pear shaped.

DH has only ever had horrible experiences with hospitals and really doesn't like them. He's had to process a lot to get comfortable with the idea of being there with me for Grublettes birth. It might be a plan to talk to your midwife about your feelings regarding the hospital and she might have some other suggestions for you.

]]> Wed, 29 Jun 2011 13:11:58 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39729&PID=1354979&title=hospital-stay#1354979 <![CDATA[Hospital Stay : It is good to know you can transfer...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39729&PID=1354926&title=hospital-stay#1354926 Author: Brunettie86
Subject: 39729
Posted: 29 June 2011 at 11:33am

It is good to know you can transfer from hospital back to a birthing centre, I was wondering if that was an option - sharing a room with 3 other ladies doesn't do it for me in hospital. I think that is what I will do - all going to plan of course!]]> Wed, 29 Jun 2011 11:33:24 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39729&PID=1354926&title=hospital-stay#1354926 <![CDATA[Hospital Stay : I had my fist son at North Shore....]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39729&PID=1354919&title=hospital-stay#1354919 Author: Cinderella
Subject: 39729
Posted: 29 June 2011 at 11:11am

I had my fist son at North Shore. TBH I have been in and out of hospitals and can't stand the place. I would have left straight away with the first but was made to stay over night. There were lots of visitors but I believe they have gotten strictor with that now.
#2 I had at waitakere. It was amazing. Because I had one at home and wanted time to bond and rest I stayed 5 days. I loved every minute. It was very quiet and peaceful. Visitors were for a short time twice a day only.

My friend transfered to a birth centre. She loved it but the baby got a cold due to the transfer.]]> Wed, 29 Jun 2011 11:11:44 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39729&PID=1354919&title=hospital-stay#1354919 <![CDATA[Hospital Stay : kelzie_rose wrote:I don&#039;t...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39729&PID=1354737&title=hospital-stay#1354737 Author: Faffer
Subject: 39729
Posted: 28 June 2011 at 9:43pm

Originally posted by kelzie_rose kelzie_rose wrote:

I don't know if it's the actual hospital that I hate, but each time I'm been to a hospital I've been incredibly sad (miscarriages) and would rather be at home. I get physically uncomfortable quite easily and would prefer my own bed and my own place.


That was my experience of hospital too prior to having DD. We unfortunately ended up with a c-sec due to her being breech and had to stay 3 nights (was supposed to be 2 but we didn't get deposited in a ward til after midnight). We transfered to a birthing centre afterwards for 2 nights.

I'm in the Waikato so not sure how different it might be but the hospital stay was horrendous. Even though I had a private room it was so bloody noisy I didn't sleep a wink which was not fabulous after a 43hr (sleepless) labour There also seemed to be a new midwife looking after you everytime you turned around and they all had conflicting advice. Plus DH wasn't allowed to stay

I can't recommend the birthing unit we transferred to highly enough. The midwives were lovely and there was more continuity of care. Having your partner able to stay and help (especially when recovering from c-sec), and the peace and quiet (SLEEP!!!) was incredible.

If you decide to birth at the hospital and have a complication free birth you should be able to transfer within hours, either home or birthing centre. The birthing centre isn't for everyone but being first time parents we both found it reassuring to know someone was there at the press of a button til we got the hang of things.

Oh, and congratulations!]]> Tue, 28 Jun 2011 21:43:05 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39729&PID=1354737&title=hospital-stay#1354737 <![CDATA[Hospital Stay : I hate hospitals too and couldn&#039;t...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39729&PID=1354720&title=hospital-stay#1354720 Author: _Deb_
Subject: 39729
Posted: 28 June 2011 at 9:14pm

I hate hospitals too and couldn't wait to get out!

I had complications with #1 so had to stay longer than i wanted. But with #2 i had her at 3pm and left the following morning. I think it was around 10am 'cause that's what time my MW finally came to see me. I didn't even wanna stay that long but my daughter had quite a bit of mucous so they wanted to keep an eye on her. Plus i had been induced (labour didn't progress after my waters broke) and had to stay hooked up to the syntocinon drip for 4 hours after i had her due to the risk of my bleeding like i did with #1, so by the time that had finished and they had finally taken the drip out it was getting on so it was better to stay anyway.

Oops that was a little bit of a novel. ]]> Tue, 28 Jun 2011 21:14:38 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39729&PID=1354720&title=hospital-stay#1354720 <![CDATA[Hospital Stay : I delivered at North Shore and...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39729&PID=1354687&title=hospital-stay#1354687 Author: caliandjack
Subject: 39729
Posted: 28 June 2011 at 8:36pm

I delivered at North Shore and left when DD was 4 hours old.
Ended up back at Waitakere which I hated, next time I'm going to Birthcare or Helensville. ]]> Tue, 28 Jun 2011 20:36:03 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39729&PID=1354687&title=hospital-stay#1354687 <![CDATA[Hospital Stay : I don&#039;t know if it&#039;s...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39729&PID=1354684&title=hospital-stay#1354684 Author: kelzie_rose
Subject: 39729
Posted: 28 June 2011 at 8:33pm

I don't know if it's the actual hospital that I hate, but each time I'm been to a hospital I've been incredibly sad (miscarriages) and would rather be at home. I get physically uncomfortable quite easily and would prefer my own bed and my own place.]]> Tue, 28 Jun 2011 20:33:35 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39729&PID=1354684&title=hospital-stay#1354684 <![CDATA[Hospital Stay : I delivered at north shore hospital...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39729&PID=1354674&title=hospital-stay#1354674 Author: SnuggleBear
Subject: 39729
Posted: 28 June 2011 at 8:23pm

I delivered at north shore hospital kelzie... Tbh they were fantastic! But didn't have room in their maternity ward so we were transferred to warkworth birthing centre which was oh my god even better! Good food, good midwives , peaceful environment...I didn't want to leave...;)

I think normally you have to book but I heard that they are expandingtheir facilities so more rooms! But honestly if I can I'm gonna go there next time too... Plus cos it's so "far" from my family in takapuna we didntget many visitors and really got to bond with ds ... aND dh got to stay with us for the first night... Bonus!]]> Tue, 28 Jun 2011 20:23:37 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39729&PID=1354674&title=hospital-stay#1354674 <![CDATA[Hospital Stay : you could transfer up to Warkworth...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39729&PID=1354636&title=hospital-stay#1354636 Author: Mum2ET
Subject: 39729
Posted: 28 June 2011 at 7:57pm

you could transfer up to Warkworth Birthing centre (or you could birth up there as well). I transfered there with #2 from North Shore Hospital and I loved it up there.

With #1 I stayed in the hospital but with #2 I had him at 8.30am and left by midday- I was ready to transfer by 11 but had to wait for the hospital to process my blood results.

]]> Tue, 28 Jun 2011 19:57:08 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39729&PID=1354636&title=hospital-stay#1354636 <![CDATA[Hospital Stay : Sorry, I don&#039;t know too much...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39729&PID=1354633&title=hospital-stay#1354633 Author: Inkedpixie
Subject: 39729
Posted: 28 June 2011 at 7:54pm

Sorry, I don't know too much about the shore (I live down in the Waikato), but I get what you mean - DF has been hinting he'd like me to deliver in hospital and then transfer to a birthing unit, while I'm very anti-hospital and would prefer to go straight to the birthing unit. Maybe talk it through with your midwife? She might know the average stay time in your local hospital.]]> Tue, 28 Jun 2011 19:54:14 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39729&PID=1354633&title=hospital-stay#1354633 <![CDATA[Hospital Stay : I&#039;m on the North Shore in...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39729&PID=1354630&title=hospital-stay#1354630 Author: kelzie_rose
Subject: 39729
Posted: 28 June 2011 at 7:51pm

I'm on the North Shore in Auckland. As it's my first, I'm thinking that a hospital birth would be best, but hate hate hate hospitals.]]> Tue, 28 Jun 2011 19:51:02 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39729&PID=1354630&title=hospital-stay#1354630 <![CDATA[Hospital Stay : DD was born at 1am, and we left...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39729&PID=1354625&title=hospital-stay#1354625 Author: troutpout
Subject: 39729
Posted: 28 June 2011 at 7:46pm

DD was born at 1am, and we left at 10am ]]> Tue, 28 Jun 2011 19:46:20 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39729&PID=1354625&title=hospital-stay#1354625 <![CDATA[Hospital Stay : You could always homebirth? That...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39729&PID=1354619&title=hospital-stay#1354619 Author: T_Rex
Subject: 39729
Posted: 28 June 2011 at 7:41pm

You could always homebirth?

That was my plan last time, but we had complications so ended up in hospital for about 24 hours. DD was born about 8 hours after we arrived. I was in no physical state (nor was DD) to leave the day she was born, so stayed overnight and left first thing in the morning.

This time I'm hoping to avoid hospital altogether. ]]> Tue, 28 Jun 2011 19:41:11 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39729&PID=1354619&title=hospital-stay#1354619 <![CDATA[Hospital Stay : Where do you live Kelzie-Rose?...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39729&PID=1354618&title=hospital-stay#1354618 Author: Inkedpixie
Subject: 39729
Posted: 28 June 2011 at 7:41pm

Where do you live Kelzie-Rose? I can't speak from my own experience, but I know a few friends that had their bubs at the hospital then transferred to a birthing centre after a few hours so they still had support without being in the hospital.
]]> Tue, 28 Jun 2011 19:41:11 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39729&PID=1354618&title=hospital-stay#1354618 <![CDATA[Hospital Stay : With DD I was in for a few days...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39729&PID=1354601&title=hospital-stay#1354601 Author: Mum_mum
Subject: 39729
Posted: 28 June 2011 at 7:26pm

With DD I was in for a few days but thats just cos it was my first and I wanted to be although it wasn't really that nice TBH.

But my friend was out within 3 hours for each of her two so spose if you have a confident M/W and no issues then they should let you go home.

I probably will stay one night, maybe with this one but also on the other hand don't want to be away from DD at all!]]> Tue, 28 Jun 2011 19:26:29 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39729&PID=1354601&title=hospital-stay#1354601 <![CDATA[Hospital Stay : With Alex I would have been out...]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39729&PID=1354568&title=hospital-stay#1354568 Author: kebakat
Subject: 39729
Posted: 28 June 2011 at 6:56pm

With Alex I would have been out within 2hrs but he was early and they wanted to keep us in for 6hrs to make sure his temp stayed the same. After that I was gone!]]> Tue, 28 Jun 2011 18:56:24 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39729&PID=1354568&title=hospital-stay#1354568 <![CDATA[Hospital Stay : Hello ladies, I HATE HOSPITALS....]]> https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39729&PID=1354567&title=hospital-stay#1354567 Author: kelzie_rose
Subject: 39729
Posted: 28 June 2011 at 6:54pm

Hello ladies,

I HATE HOSPITALS. And just wondering for those who have had a no complications birth, how long were you in hospital for after bubs made an appearance?]]> Tue, 28 Jun 2011 18:54:49 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=39729&PID=1354567&title=hospital-stay#1354567