https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Tue, 07 Apr 2026 19:08:10 +0000 Fri, 15 Dec 2006 22:54:08 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.05 360 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=4848 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_images/web_wiz_forums.png https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/ https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4848&PID=94661&title=kosher-food-rules#94661 Author: jax
Subject: 4848
Posted: 15 December 2006 at 10:54pm

Feel free to correct me on this, but I think it is void if the butcher himself isn't muslim? ]]> Fri, 15 Dec 2006 22:54:08 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4848&PID=94661&title=kosher-food-rules#94661 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4848&PID=94657&title=kosher-food-rules#94657 Author: Rachael21
Subject: 4848
Posted: 15 December 2006 at 10:38pm

Completely OTT here but when I was at high school we went on a trip to the meat works and all the killing men were trained in doing it all Halal anyway. Its more of a mess but they can sell it to more places. Don't know if all meat works are like this but the stinky Belfast one is.

Also the reasoning behind no pork or shelfish is because they are cleaning animals and live on the waste of other animals or something.]]> Fri, 15 Dec 2006 22:38:11 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4848&PID=94657&title=kosher-food-rules#94657 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4848&PID=94260&title=kosher-food-rules#94260 Author: jax
Subject: 4848
Posted: 14 December 2006 at 8:17pm

Well, after all that it turns out our Jewish guest(s) aren't coming after all I was going to go to the synagogue tomorrow and check out that wine, oh well !]]> Thu, 14 Dec 2006 20:17:40 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4848&PID=94260&title=kosher-food-rules#94260 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4848&PID=94215&title=kosher-food-rules#94215 Author: Bombshell
Subject: 4848
Posted: 14 December 2006 at 4:40pm

yeah really sweet like a dessert wine....and comes in a massive bottle like a two litre juice bottle...so plenty in there!!! ]]> Thu, 14 Dec 2006 16:40:23 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4848&PID=94215&title=kosher-food-rules#94215 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4848&PID=94070&title=kosher-food-rules#94070 Author: busymum
Subject: 4848
Posted: 13 December 2006 at 8:57pm

Is it like a dessert wine then Bombshell?]]> Wed, 13 Dec 2006 20:57:03 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4848&PID=94070&title=kosher-food-rules#94070 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4848&PID=94030&title=kosher-food-rules#94030 Author: Bombshell
Subject: 4848
Posted: 13 December 2006 at 7:14pm

yeah thats the temple i was thinking of....
seriously kosher red wine is gorgeous!!! try it you might be hooked - really sweet and yummy!]]> Wed, 13 Dec 2006 19:14:39 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4848&PID=94030&title=kosher-food-rules#94030 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4848&PID=93915&title=kosher-food-rules#93915 Author: james
Subject: 4848
Posted: 13 December 2006 at 10:30am

what a kool thing to do if we all did that the world would be a better place ]]> Wed, 13 Dec 2006 10:30:47 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4848&PID=93915&title=kosher-food-rules#93915 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4848&PID=93881&title=kosher-food-rules#93881 Author: jax
Subject: 4848
Posted: 13 December 2006 at 8:45am

Thanks Maree, you're a star ! ]]> Wed, 13 Dec 2006 08:45:34 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4848&PID=93881&title=kosher-food-rules#93881 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4848&PID=93862&title=kosher-food-rules#93862 Author: emeldee
Subject: 4848
Posted: 12 December 2006 at 11:04pm

Hiya Jax,
http://kosherkiwidirectory.co.nz/ should help with the list of kosher brands in NZ - also, the temple at Greys Ave in town has a store where you can buy kosher wine (http://www.ahc.org.nz/intro.php)... (Sean's teacher for the past two years is Jewish so we have tried to make an effort)

]]> Tue, 12 Dec 2006 23:04:31 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4848&PID=93862&title=kosher-food-rules#93862 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4848&PID=93836&title=kosher-food-rules#93836 Author: Jay_R
Subject: 4848
Posted: 12 December 2006 at 8:14pm

Hehehe Nikki, google all the way baby ]]> Tue, 12 Dec 2006 20:14:45 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4848&PID=93836&title=kosher-food-rules#93836 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4848&PID=93794&title=kosher-food-rules#93794 Author: jax
Subject: 4848
Posted: 12 December 2006 at 4:49pm

Not really out to impress them LOL Just trying to find something special to show them they are included in our "family" too (even though we're not Jewish). I like the idea of kosher wine actually, so will do some research on where I might be able to get it in Auckland ! Oooh, that reminds me, must find some good gluten free snackies as well... ]]> Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:49:50 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4848&PID=93794&title=kosher-food-rules#93794 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4848&PID=93790&title=kosher-food-rules#93790 Author: Bombshell
Subject: 4848
Posted: 12 December 2006 at 4:43pm

ooh a nice recipe for matzah ball soup would be good...altho might be too warm to eat for some on xmas day? there are some great jewish recipes online too....if you want to branch out...depends on who the people are to you I guess? (eg important to impress or ??)]]> Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:43:34 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4848&PID=93790&title=kosher-food-rules#93790 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4848&PID=93783&title=kosher-food-rules#93783 Author: Peace
Subject: 4848
Posted: 12 December 2006 at 4:25pm

I think you're a wonderful hostess Jax, what a nice thing to do ]]> Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:25:45 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4848&PID=93783&title=kosher-food-rules#93783 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4848&PID=93763&title=kosher-food-rules#93763 Author: Roksana
Subject: 4848
Posted: 12 December 2006 at 3:04pm

Yah...I thought Muslim and Hindu rules were tough...I see Jewish is tough too....]]> Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:04:14 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4848&PID=93763&title=kosher-food-rules#93763 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4848&PID=93755&title=kosher-food-rules#93755 Author: my2angels
Subject: 4848
Posted: 12 December 2006 at 2:45pm

Yeah that is really nice of you Jax, and i know what your saying, i would try to do the same thing.
Just out of curiosity, what the reason behind the dairy and meat not being cooked together? and why is dairy such an issue, is it because it comes from animals or something? I have absolutely no idea about things like this.]]> Tue, 12 Dec 2006 14:45:53 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4848&PID=93755&title=kosher-food-rules#93755 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4848&PID=93748&title=kosher-food-rules#93748 Author: Roksana
Subject: 4848
Posted: 12 December 2006 at 2:19pm

Ok I have no idea re Kosher but I am Muslim and I dont care if the meat is Halal....Nither do my parents and family. On the other hand my husband's extended family always makes sure that when the invite some one to dinner and there is one there who is a Veg then atleast two Veg dishes will be made for them. If there is some one who does not eat fish (because they dont like it)...atleast 1 meat dish will be prepared. Its not religious but good manners??!!

My husband (Hindu)goes to my parents house and eats what ever is prepared ...my parents never serve beef to him......and does not care that it might have been cooked in the same pot....as long as the pot was washed!! My MIL on the otherhand is fussy!!!

Ok totally off topic.....but just wanted to say ...you are soooo nice Jax!! ]]> Tue, 12 Dec 2006 14:19:40 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4848&PID=93748&title=kosher-food-rules#93748 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4848&PID=93735&title=kosher-food-rules#93735 Author: Bombshell
Subject: 4848
Posted: 12 December 2006 at 1:24pm

I lived with a jewish family as a nanny ages ago -

Kosher wine - yummy btw!!! - can be bought from the shop inside or at side of the temple in town....I LOVE passover red wine!!!

BTW no shellfish - something we forget being in nz and having xmas in summer.

I dont think there is a fasting on at that time is it = if so then basically no food...be careful using frypans etc as the mixing of food and meat etc in same pans can cause problems for some people...as is the way the meat is killed for halal meat etc...

I would phone the people and ask them waht their restrictions are - as there are differing levels of adherence (my jewish male boss loved to cheat and eat shellfish!!!)]]> Tue, 12 Dec 2006 13:24:55 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4848&PID=93735&title=kosher-food-rules#93735 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4848&PID=93733&title=kosher-food-rules#93733 Author: busymum
Subject: 4848
Posted: 12 December 2006 at 1:18pm

Jax looks like a tricky one but hopefully everything goes well for ya! Good on you for being sensitive in that way, I haven't ever needed to feed someone Jewish but I do try to look out for people who have allergies.

As for wine, I don't think it would generally offend people if there is wine served and also lemonade (or something), and they can choose which they would prefer?]]> Tue, 12 Dec 2006 13:18:22 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4848&PID=93733&title=kosher-food-rules#93733 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4848&PID=93727&title=kosher-food-rules#93727 Author: nikkitheknitter
Subject: 4848
Posted: 12 December 2006 at 1:07pm

Woah Clare... very knowledgable about Kosher food... you Jewish? or just good at googling?]]> Tue, 12 Dec 2006 13:07:08 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4848&PID=93727&title=kosher-food-rules#93727 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4848&PID=93726&title=kosher-food-rules#93726 Author: Jay_R
Subject: 4848
Posted: 12 December 2006 at 1:02pm

I hear what you're saying rug_nz, it is a hard one to call on And you are right - WOULD some people sway their beliefs to accommodate yours even if it went completely against what they believe in??? Luckily, us here on Oh Baby are fabulously open, and accommodating types who clearly wouldn't think twice about making others welcome ]]> Tue, 12 Dec 2006 13:02:30 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4848&PID=93726&title=kosher-food-rules#93726 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4848&PID=93709&title=kosher-food-rules#93709 Author: jax
Subject: 4848
Posted: 12 December 2006 at 12:05pm

If I had a Hindu, I would make sure there was at least one or two dishes that didn't have beef. If I had a vegetarian I would ensure there were one or two things that didn't have any meat. If I had someone allergic to peanuts, I would make sure to tell them what dishes / food had nuts, and which didn't. So, it's not necessarily a religious or cultural thing - as Clare said, my aim is more for everyone to have a good time on the day and not have to worry about what they can or can't eat. When I have my Muslim friends over for a meal I just make a trip to a halal butcher for the meat, it's not really any extra effort on my part - I personally feel that it is one way I can show them that I respect their beliefs (even though I may not have the same ones). ]]> Tue, 12 Dec 2006 12:05:00 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4848&PID=93709&title=kosher-food-rules#93709 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4848&PID=93676&title=kosher-food-rules#93676 Author: rug_nz
Subject: 4848
Posted: 12 December 2006 at 9:51am

Yeah I'm just interested in how people bend to other cultures etc, I think its interesting and wonder if you say you could only eat pork and went to something jewish would they make some for you. I'm not having a got I just think its real interesting.
]]> Tue, 12 Dec 2006 09:51:58 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4848&PID=93676&title=kosher-food-rules#93676 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4848&PID=93672&title=kosher-food-rules#93672 Author: Jay_R
Subject: 4848
Posted: 12 December 2006 at 9:46am

I would imagine she just wants to make sure everyone has a good time, and can enjoy what she spends so much time and energy cooking....

Kosher wine though??? That'd be hard to find I reckon!!]]> Tue, 12 Dec 2006 09:46:40 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4848&PID=93672&title=kosher-food-rules#93672 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4848&PID=93668&title=kosher-food-rules#93668 Author: rug_nz
Subject: 4848
Posted: 12 December 2006 at 9:38am

please don't take this the wrong way, I just interested in why.
But if you were having 10 people over and 1 was vegatarian(sp) you wouldnt make everything for the one person would you.]]> Tue, 12 Dec 2006 09:38:46 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4848&PID=93668&title=kosher-food-rules#93668 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4848&PID=93665&title=kosher-food-rules#93665 Author: Jay_R
Subject: 4848
Posted: 12 December 2006 at 9:32am

Dairy produce and meat must not be cooked or mixed together. The rules for ensuring that meat and dairy do not mix also extend to separate cooking vessels. Those that do not fall into either category are called pareve or neutral food. Meat and dairy products must not be consumed together. If a product has animal fat along with dairy ingredients, it becomes unkosher.

Grape products made by non-Jews is not consumed

Unkosher meat such as pork, shellfish must not be consumed. Flesh, milk and eggs of forbidden animals are not to be consumed. Shellfish, lobster, clams and oysters and scallops and crabs are not allowed in Kosher food Land animals are kosher if their hooves are split and they chew their cud. Thus pigs are not kosher. Fish must have fins and scales, which explains why shrimp and crab are not kosher

Edited by Clare]]> Tue, 12 Dec 2006 09:32:05 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4848&PID=93665&title=kosher-food-rules#93665 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4848&PID=93659&title=kosher-food-rules#93659 Author: jax
Subject: 4848
Posted: 12 December 2006 at 9:13am

Is there anyone here that is Jewish and might be able to give me a quick run down on what the kosher food rules are (besides obviously not being able to have pork), as far as what can and can't be cooked together, and food handling?

The reason I ask is a) I'm too lazy to slog through all the info on the net and b) One of our Xmas Day guests will be Jewish... so don't want to have any 'oopsies' on the day !

TIA ! ]]> Tue, 12 Dec 2006 09:13:42 +0000 https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4848&PID=93659&title=kosher-food-rules#93659