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   <title><![CDATA[In Memory : Sorry to hear of your friends...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=36">AlyAyde</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 829<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 August 2005 at 8:56pm<br /><br />Sorry to hear of your friends loss!]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[In Memory : Ok! so my baby now has a 75% survival...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=991">Roksana</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 829<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 August 2005 at 3:18pm<br /><br />Ok! so my baby now has a 75% survival rate...another 1.5 weeks and it goes to 95%....I like that!<br /><br />I think I will feel much better then. <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> <br /><br />I am glad tho that I have reached 28 weeks with out any more trouble (bleeding)...But just like you Emma, I dont know what I would do if any thing happened to her now! I am totally in love with this kicking/punching bub inside me!]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[In Memory : Emmas right altho........ a lady...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=698">Xander&Harmony</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 829<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 August 2005 at 3:16pm<br /><br />Emmas right altho........ a lady i had been talking to on anothr forum had her baby at term but stillborn<IMG src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0"><IMG src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley6.gif" border="0"><IMG src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0">.shes quite angry with her midwife as she had mentioned bubs hadnt moved at all on the 1st Aug but m/w disregarded it due to overwork and underslept???? babe was born 2nd Aug.anyway babe managed to get cord knotted cutting of oxygen and wrapped round his neck.babe was a healthy 6pd smthing.I feel so sad for mum n dad to go thru tis.]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[In Memory : Unfortunately because I spend...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=207">Maya</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 829<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 11 August 2005 at 3:10pm<br /><br />Unfortunately because I spend so much time researching pregnancy and parenting for my job I hear far too many stories of still birth and late term complications, it is so heartbreaking. I was so paranoid when I was pregnant with Maya, I know that now she is here she is exposed to many other dangers, but I feel like I can protect her better out here than I could when she was still inside. I used to look at her cot and pram set up in my room and pray that she would be ok, because I would never have been able to cope if anything had happened to her.<br /><br />However, from all my research I also know that babies carried past 28 weeks have a 75% survival rate, carried past 30 weeks the survival rate is 95% and carried to term the survival rate is over 99%. So the chances of anything going wrong at that late stage are very very slim. ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[In Memory : It is a bit scary when you hear...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=448">nikkitheknitter</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 829<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 August 2005 at 10:10pm<br /><br />It is a bit scary when you hear stories like that. Hannah had the cord around her neck and her heart rate started sropping... it wasn't as if she almost died, but it did get to the point where the M/W called in the obstetrician. It just scares me to think that there was the possibility that if Hannah hadn't decided to make an entrance at that point, then it could have ended right there <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0"> I don't know what I would have done if anything had happened to her.<br /><br />Mmmm... very sad now.<br />I really feel for your friend Ana <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley6.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[In Memory : I will second that! ]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2523">newmum</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 829<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 August 2005 at 12:29pm<br /><br />I will second that! <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=991">Roksana</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 829<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 August 2005 at 12:24pm<br /><br />I know. but like you, I never thought that any thing could happen so late in pregnancy...It just freaked me out a bit. I know my baby is fine....and is kicking and punching...but still.....<br /><br /><br />Here is hoping that all of us on here have healthy and happy babies!!<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[In Memory : Thanks for your comments guys,...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2523">newmum</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 829<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 10 August 2005 at 11:56am<br /><br />Thanks for your comments guys,  I think I was just really shocked yesterday.  I went out in the afternoon to visit Peter at work for a big hug and that made me feel better <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0"> I also had a m/w appointment yesterday and our baby is fine.  I knew it was but it is always nice to hear the heartbeat  <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> I can't doubt baby is fine the amount it moves around anyway!! LOL<br /><br /><br />It is like you said Vick - although I had a m/c it was very early on and although I was really worried this pregnancy, once we got to about 5 months I stopped being so scared, I suppose I never thought that it can happen this late on.<br /><br />Don't freak out Roksana, I am sure it will be fine.  I didn't want to scare you! <br /> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[In Memory : I agree vick, we go from worrying...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=564">lizzle</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 829<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 August 2005 at 1:07pm<br /><br />I agree vick, we go from worrying about miscarriage, to worrying about birth to worrying about cot deat, to worrying about traffic accidents etc.  That poor mother, my heart goes out to her.  How sad,but Ana and Roksana, you Have to relax!!!  Stress is not good.  I klnow it's easier said than done, but stillbirth chnaces are tragical but low.  Chances are both your babies will be fine!]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[In Memory : I have just spent the last hour...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=877">nuttymama</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 829<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 August 2005 at 12:28pm<br /><br />I have just spent the last hour trying to get abby to go to sleep and was getting so frustrated.  I will never again complian about being sleep deprived. I guess you take for granted that once you pass the miscarriage danger stage  your home free as far as pregnancy goes. That makes me so sad.  I really really feel for you guys.]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[In Memory : Yah I think I am going to talk...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=991">Roksana</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 829<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 August 2005 at 12:23pm<br /><br />Yah I think I am going to talk to my M/Wife....OH MY GOD...I am so scared. I am so attached to my baby now...I cant imagine loosing her....I think I will die!<br /><br />I feel like some one just placed a huge rock on my chest! I can hardly breath....I feel so sorry for both Mum's...and am scared to death!]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[In Memory : It&amp;#039;s something to lose a...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=877">nuttymama</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 829<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 August 2005 at 12:17pm<br /><br />It's something to lose a child early on but it must be absolutely devestating to lose a child so late.  My heart goes out to them.  <br /><br />As scary as it is for you, you have to stay positive, and keep thinking everything will be ok. I'm afraid to say you spend your whole life worring about your kids, first it's pregnancy, then cot death, then as they grow the list becomes huge. It's always in the back of your mind and that's the best place for it. Otherwise it would just comsume you. It would be nice to be able to wrap them up in cotton wool though. Thinking about you.]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[In Memory : Obviously she didn&amp;#039;t write...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2523">newmum</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 829<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 August 2005 at 12:17pm<br /><br />Obviously she didn't write much but she said they don't know what happened at this stage.  Her little daughter was over 8 pounds and perfect she said.  I hope they find out what went wrong, maybe they should have induced her earlier?  Maybe Amelia (that is what they named their little girl) was tired out and had been in there too long?  I don't know, I will keep you posted.  <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0"> I will talk to my m/w today also, ask her what she knows. <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0"> It is so tragic, the mum is 38 and it was their first baby after trying for sooooo long <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[In Memory : Ana.....my heart just stopped...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=991">Roksana</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 829<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 August 2005 at 12:13pm<br /><br />Ana.....my heart just stopped for a moment...dont tell me this please....now I cant stop thinking about it...oh my god! Do they know the cause? <br /><br />Oh my GOD.....oh my GOD! <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley5.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2523">newmum</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 829<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 09 August 2005 at 12:06pm<br /><br />I am in a state of shock!  One of the ladies I had met over the internet here in wellington lost her baby yesterday.  The thing is she was already overdue, EDD was 29th July, and went into labour finally on Sunday night.  Somehow her little daughters heart stopped beating yesterday during the delivery - they are not sure what happened! <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0"> How can stuff like this happen!?? It is so unfair and scary - she is the 2nd mum in our little group to have lost a child - the other mum had 3 weeks to go until due date. <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0"> I am so sad and scared.  I never thought about the possibility of losing a baby this far along...  Just wanted to share that with someone! ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=991">Roksana</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 829<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 03 August 2005 at 1:36pm<br /><br />It sure is.....]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2585">kbushnz</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 829<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 03 August 2005 at 1:29pm<br /><br />That is beautiful.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4675">mumstheword</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 829<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 03 August 2005 at 1:24pm<br /><br />holy moly that made me cry like a baby.. Ive had a m/c and i have never read anything so beautiful.. thank you so much, I loved it, i will share this with my friends that grieve a loss to.. thanks again its amazing.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=877">nuttymama</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 829<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 03 August 2005 at 12:48pm<br /><br />They are beautiful, especially the first one.  This is one I found on a babyloss website and it makes me cry everytime I read it, however it also gives me great comfort.<br /><br />WHAT MAKES A MOTHER<br /><br />I thought of you and closed my eyes<br />And prayed to god today<br />I asked what makes a mother<br />And I know I heard him say<br /><br />A mother has a baby<br />This we know is true<br />But god can you be a mother<br />When your baby's not with you?<br /><br />Yes, you can he replied<br />With confidence in his voice<br />I give many women babies<br />When they leave is not their choice.<br /><br />Some I send for a lifetime<br />And others for a day<br />And some I send to feel your womb<br />But there's no need to stay<br /><br />I just don't understand this, god<br />I want my baby here<br />He took a breath and cleared his throat<br />And then I saw a tear<br /><br />I wish I could show you<br />What your child is doing today<br />If you could see your child smile<br />With other children and say<br /><br />We go the earth to learn our lessons<br />Of love and life and fear<br />My mummy loved me oh so much<br />I got to come straight here.<br /><br />I feel so lucky to have a mum<br />Who had so much love for me<br />I learned my lessons very quickly<br />My mummy set me free<br /><br />I miss my mummy oh so much<br />But I visit her each day<br />When she goes to sleep<br />On her pillows where I lay<br /><br />I stroke her hair and kiss her cheek<br />And whisper in her ear<br />Mummy don't be sad today<br />I'm your baby and I'm here<br /><br />So you see my dear sweet one<br />Your children are OK<br />Your babies are here in my home<br />And this is where they'll stay<br /><br />They'll wait for you with me<br />Until your lesson there is through<br />And on the day that you come home<br />They'll be at the gates for you.<br /><br />So now you see what makes a mother<br />It's the feeling in your heart<br />It's the love you had so much of<br />Right from the very start<br /><br />Though some on earth may not realise<br />Until there time is done<br />Remember all the love you have<br />And know that you are a special Mum!<br /><br />Author Unknown<span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by vick</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=178">Donna.I</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 829<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 03 August 2005 at 11:52am<br /><br />These two poems are my favs, the first one explains soo much, the second was given to me by a lady through the treasures mag, who supported me after the miscarriage. Some people need to reach out and find comfort from one who has been there. I must admit miscarriage is more talked about now. I guess the net is making it more acknowledged, like many things.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=877">nuttymama</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 829<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 03 August 2005 at 11:51am<br /><br />There were two positive things that came out of my miscarriage.  One Troy and I had actually split up a week before and we ended up getting back together. When I lost the baby I realised how much he meant to me and now we have added two beautiful children since then to our family. And then two weeks after we lost the baby troy's aunty died.  We travelled up to Levin for the funeral and another one of his aunties came over to see how I was doing, she then told me about her miscarriage and said it was the first time she had ever spoken about it, and she finally felt she could grieve for the baby she had lost some 15 years earlier.  It felt good to know that in my loss I had helped someone else deal with theirs.  Back then it wasn't treated and acknowleged with the respect it is now.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=178">Donna.I</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 829<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 03 August 2005 at 11:47am<br /><br /><B><FONT face="Lucida Handwriting" color=#000033><P><FONT face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>To Lost Children</FONT></P><P><FONT face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>In a baby castle just beyond my eye,</FONT></P><P><FONT face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>My baby plays with angel toys that money can not buy,</FONT></P><P><FONT face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Who am I to wish them back?</FONT></P><P><FONT face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Into this world of strife,</FONT></P><P><FONT face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>No, play on my baby,</FONT></P><P><FONT face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>You have eternal life.</FONT></P><P><FONT face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>At night when all is silent and sleep forsakes my eyes</FONT></P><P><FONT face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>I hear their tiny footsteps coming running to my side,</FONT></P><P><FONT face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Their little hands caress me, so tenderly and sweet,</FONT></P><P><FONT face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>I’ll breathe a prayer and close my eyes,</FONT></P><P><FONT face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>And embrace them in my sleep</FONT></P><P><FONT face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>Now I have a treasure that I rate above all other,</FONT></P><P><FONT face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>I have known true glory,</FONT></P><P><FONT face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size=2>I am still their Mother!</FONT></P></B></FONT>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=178">Donna.I</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 829<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 03 August 2005 at 11:44am<br /><br /><B><FONT face=Arial color=#00007f><P align=center>Just Those First Few Weeks</P><P align=center>By <BR>Susan Erling <BR><BR>For those few weeks - <BR>I had you to myself <BR>And that seems too short a time <BR>To be changed so profoundly <BR><BR>In those few weeks - <BR>I came to know you... <BR>and to love you. <BR>You came to trust me with your life. <BR>Oh, what a life I had planned for you! <BR><BR>Just those few weeks -<BR>When I lost you I lost a lifetime of hopes, <BR>plans, dreams and aspirations... <BR>A slice of my future simply vanished overnight.<BR><BR>Just those few weeks - <BR>It wasn't enough time to convince others <BR>how important and special you were. <BR>How odd, a truly unique person has recently died <BR>And no-one is mourning the passing. <BR><BR>Just a few more weeks -<BR>And no 'normal' person would cry all night<BR>over a tiny unfinished baby, <BR>or get depressed and withdraw day after endless day. <BR>No-one would, so why am I? <BR><BR>You were just those first few weeks my little one <BR>you darted in and out of my life too quickly. <BR>But it seems that's all the time you needed <BR>to make my life so much richer <BR>and give me a small glimpse of eternity.</P></FONT><FONT face=Arial></B></FONT>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=178">Donna.I</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 829<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 03 August 2005 at 11:42am<br /><br /><P>3 march 1997, was my second miscarriage and this one ended up being so poignant. For some a miscarriage brings about many changes. That is why mine has remained so strong in my memory. </P><P>For those here who have miscarried, you too will underatnd why I chose to bring my youngest into this world as a single mum with four kids, instead of termination, not that it had not crossed my mind, it had, but the memories of the miscarriage were too close to home.</P><P>I always say those who do know someone who has had a miscarriage, it is always remembered, it is great if another acknowledges it because a miscarriage is often brushed over because there wasn't a visible child to mourn. </P>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=991">Roksana</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 829<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 03 August 2005 at 10:34am<br /><br />I never m/c but can only imagine what it would feel like. I had a friend who was pregnant 12 weeks, came to our house for a BBQ...3 days later we found out she lost the baby. I found out I was Pregnant a week before that. I did not know what to say to her.....I never told her I was pregnant till much later. <br /><br />When I had my bleeding at 8 weeks I panicked thinking that I was having a m/c. I tell you what I never felt so horrible...I thought I was going to die, if I lost this baby....So my heart goes out to all who actually went thru this nightmare.<br /><br />Big <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif" border="0"> <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=36">AlyAyde</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 829<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 02 August 2005 at 8:57pm<br /><br />Thanks.  No it was due oct 04.  She got preg pretty soon after MC]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=207">Maya</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 829<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 02 August 2005 at 8:00pm<br /><br />I assume you mean the baby was due October 03?]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=207">Maya</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 829<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 02 August 2005 at 8:00pm<br /><br />That's a tough one Maria. She definitely won't have 'forgotten' but you could be right, she might just being trying to be tough. She'll probably be really stoked if you give her a call tho, just to let her know that you haven't forgotten. I still go to church every March and light a candle for my angel baby and it's been more than ten years, so I don't think we ever forget. You know your friend best, but if it were me I would probably call just for a chat and see if she brings it up, and go from there.  ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=36">AlyAyde</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 829<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 02 August 2005 at 6:53pm<br /><br />Okay you guys are great so ill ask you what to do about this.  A friend of mine was due to have a baby oct 2004 but miscarried at 12 weeks(has since gone on to have twins march this year).  So oct 2004 i phoned her just to say i was thinking about her and asking her how she was.  Shher.  I felt like such a dick.  Dont know if she had remembered and was just trying to be tough.  So this year i dont know if i let her know i remember or just to let it go and be here if she mentions it.  Dont want to make her feel e said she had forgotten about it and id just reminded like ive forgotten, cause i havent........]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=698">Xander&Harmony</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 829<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 02 August 2005 at 4:25pm<br /><br />A really close friend of mine didnt miscarry but did lose her wee girl at 20 weeks (Feb 1st 20030.baby had a few abnormalities (brain began formiong outside the skull,longer limbs than norm,a couple of other things i cant remember).She is such a strong woman because all of this happened to her and her partner aged 18 &amp; 17 respectivly.I was a bit apprehensive at first to talk to her about it all because we were due about 5-6 days apart.even now i still feel bad that i have Xander and Harmony and her angel Sivannah is an angel baby.I have been with her to Sivannahs grave a few times bt feel guilty i havent been more often now with 2 tykes.I no she understands but still doesnt change how I feel.So sorry for your losses ladies]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2523">newmum</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 829<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 02 August 2005 at 4:22pm<br /><br />I agree with you guys, the worst thing was when people said to us "these things happen", "so many people m/c", "better luck next time"...  It made me so mad because it was and still is such a big deal for me, I didn't care that it happens lots, all I knew was that it had happened to ME and it was so, so hard.  I actually had the m/c on my birthday would you believe!  I couldn't talk about it for a while afterwards, not even to Peter, and then one day I just cracked and let out all the grief.  I can talk about it now, no problems, but I think it is definitely something I will carry with me forever and it made me so nervous with this pregnancy! <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0"> This ones a fighter though! ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=877">nuttymama</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 829<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 02 August 2005 at 4:04pm<br /><br />I agree. The worst thing that was said to me was "Oh well these things happen for a reason"  In your heart you know they do but it's not something you want to hear at the time.  My mother brought me a lovely big plant to remember, and it is all about just having a shoulder to cry on if needed.  If it has affected them deeply the worst thing to do I think is pretend it never happened.  I had a lot of people saying well it wasn't a baby yet.  It was and it's not so much what it was or what stage your at, it's what should, anmd could have been.  So yeh just letting them know you feel for them and are there if they need you is a great comfort espacially if they aren't ready to talk yet.  You guys are great it's comforting to know that other people know where you are comming from and understand.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=207">Maya</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 829<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 02 August 2005 at 3:53pm<br /><br />I don't really know, when I had my miscarriage I was only 14 and contemplating having a termination, so I really didn't expect to grieve for my baby since it wasn't 'wanted' in the first place. I went into a complete spiral of depression which didn't really lift until I was diagnosed with Clinical Depression four years later. <br />I didn't tell my parents (Mum found out when she was reading my post-delivery notes after I had Maya 8 years later and Dad still doesn't know) and only a couple of friends knew, and it wasn't something they knew how to deal with. I guess avoiding talk of babies etc. is a good idea, also the whole "it was meant to be" or "there must have been something wrong with the baby" is not helpful. I guess just listening when they are ready to talk, and being there for support is just as important as what you actually say.<br />]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4675">mumstheword</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 829<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 02 August 2005 at 2:35pm<br /><br />um its hrd to say wat to say and wat not to say, i didnt want to talk about mine to start with it wasnt for a few days that i could speak about it, just be there and listen try not to question on what may have caused it, if theres anything just be friend and an open ear,<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley12.gif" border="0"> even try to talk about things that arnt pregnancy, baby related.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=564">lizzle</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 829<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 02 August 2005 at 1:42pm<br /><br />Ladies, I've never had a m/c, but my heart goes out to those who have.  One question, what do you say to someone who has just had a m/c?  And what do you NOT say?]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=207">Maya</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 829<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 02 August 2005 at 1:26pm<br /><br />Thinking of you Vick! Last March was 10 years since I lost my first pregnancy at 8 weeks 6 days, and I still think about it. Its hard when everyone else moves on, and seems to forget, but your baby will live on in your heart forever.]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[In Memory : My heart goes out to you........ Big...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2585">kbushnz</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 829<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 02 August 2005 at 1:09pm<br /><br /><P>My heart goes out to you........<IMG src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley27.gif" border="0"></P><P>Big hugs<IMG src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif" border="0"></P>]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[In Memory : Its something you will never forget,...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=4675">mumstheword</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 829<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 02 August 2005 at 11:48am<br /><br />Its something you will never forget, I have lost 4 of my precoius babies between 2000 and now, I am now preg and had trouble already and it brings my memorys flooding back so clearly, they will always be in your heart no matter what or where ever you, for people that havnt been through this it is hard for them to understand, i have a friend that has never had a m/c but thinks abortion is a form of contraeption its so terribly sad she thinks its not your child till your over 14weeks no matter how muh pain she has seen me gothrough she sill dosnt understand because her babies werent loved or wanted like ours were, which we all sadly miss and wonder wat if.... people like her do make me mad, im not anti abortion theres a time and a place for everything but people like her that just dont care and think its contraception mae me terribly sad, <br />Any way my thoughts are with you... and your angel<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley14.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[In Memory : I have two Angel babies as well....]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=1033">toniellis</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 829<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 02 August 2005 at 10:14am<br /><br />I have two Angel babies as well. My first baby died July 25th 2002. My second died September 25th 2003. Ironic really that my son was born October 25th 2004. Love him soooooo much!!!  ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[In Memory : I went through the same thing...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=2523">newmum</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 829<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 02 August 2005 at 7:52am<br /><br />I went through the same thing last year. <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif" border="0"> I will never forget either. <img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif" border="0"> ]]>
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   <title><![CDATA[In Memory : Big Hugs Vicky .  Maybe Alex is...]]></title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=36">AlyAyde</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 829<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 02 August 2005 at 7:39am<br /><br />Big Hugs Vicky<img border="0" src="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/smileys/smiley31.gif" border="0"> .  Maybe Alex is your other kids guardian angel.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="https://www.ohbaby.co.nz/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=877">nuttymama</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 829<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> 02 August 2005 at 6:23am<br /><br />I don't want to put a downer on things as there are lots of lovely ladies expecting, but this time of year is still hard for me and I wanted to share with people who won't tell me to "get over it already" Five years ago we  watched our beautiful baby die in my womb at 9 weeks.  It took two weeks of scans and seeing the heartbeat slowly stop to nothing once a problem was picked up.  The date was August the 4th 2000.  A day that is forever ingrained in my mind, when my little fighter who was given a day by specialists to die, tried to hang on and lost.  I have found it the hardest when I have had babies, like this year abby, and wonder what my cherub would have looked like.  This is a poem I wrote in hospital half and hour after my D&C, I hope others will also share their stories.  Sorry but I'm not much of a poet, but here it is.<br /><br />You were a little gift from god above<br />A baby we so dearly loved<br />We have seen your little heart beat<br />But you're a baby we can not keep<br />And sadly one we can never meet<br /><br />But when we look upon a star<br />We'll remember you are never far<br />And although we'll miss you everyday<br />We know we'll meet somewhere along the way<br /><br />Alex August 4th 2000<br /><br />Sorry for the bummer girls I just had to share with someone.  Everyone else has moved on and forgotten my little angel.<span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by vick</span>]]>
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