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    Posted: 17 June 2021 at 9:59am
Hi there! Girls, I feel I need some help as I am disconcerted a little and I guess here I’ll be able to find some support.
"I am eager to find agency of egg donation. I’m aimed at conducting the program of voluntary egg donation but not eggs’ sharing!
I have already passed one attempt in one UK center but it turned out to be unsuccessful. I need donor eggs and I want to find good
agency which will help me with this question. As the previous one which I have addressed was not so confident. So, I’d like to
change it. "
"As of UK clinic where we had the attempt surprised us in not a good way. I mean, we thought it’s a nice center with high success
results of the IVF cycles. And we had such a pleasant coordinator. She helped us so much even behind the working issues. She is
very kind and we like her. Anyway, I understand that the good coordinator isn’t the guarantee of positive result. Thus, we want to
change clinic despite the fact it’s rather good concerning service.       "
"And you know, center in which I had my first failed attempt advised us one more agency. I don’t know for sure whether to address
or not… Ok, I want to study this issue and to choose without hesitation what I need and like. "
"Have someone of you any experience of such kind? To say you the truth, I feel confused as I believed the clinic we chose in UK.
And had so much hope I’ll will receive positive pregnancy. But everything turned out to be in another way unfortunately. Now I have
some doubts whether to have more attempts in this clinic or not. I think maybe it will be better to change medical center and to try
anywhere else my fortune.     
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You should try to ask in Listers thread for advice.
Is your final decision to go for altruistic donation here? We decided to fly to Spain for it, they got higher success rates
and donors are younger. I don't dare to compare it with high end clinics like Lister. Our first cycle was at NHS, in terms of
tech they were th best.
Wish you luck.
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Hey Lilly, Its really hard to give dvice on the aspect of donor. But i just wanted to say you don't be lose your heart
and don't question your treatment at the views of any lister.
All our cycles were done there and we really liked everything there.
We have tried many countries to fulfill our dream of becoming parents. I have some attempts at home and also in the
foreign clinics. Together with my hubby we visited Greece as well. It was so famous but we were not
succeeded unfortunately.           
We had really a long journey and at last fortune has smiled to us! I wish you all also to become parents at last!   
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I want to say follow the way you like and feel comfortable. It’s the most important aspect in any act and case. I was
treated in the UK fertility center and I had two unsuccessful IVF attempts. It made me very sad therefore I decided to
change the clinic. I stop my choice at the Care Sheffield medical center. I also used donor eggs and it was a success!
Now I have a son and a daughter. Both attempts I made in that clinic and they helped me to become a mother. They are
the best ones!      
I know there are such option, in some UK fertility IVF clinics, which allow you to have an exclusive donor of eggs. I guess
if you are interested in it you can get to know somehow about such opportunity. Of course, it can cost a lot… I don’t know
about the prices. And also, I want to notice that clinics in the UK and abroad can have different success rates as they
register the success in different periods. It must be also taken into account.     
In any case, I know for sure one thing! You must find the medical center which you can trust and be calm and sure
everything will be in the best way. Every ART procedure is very stressful. Therefore, you must avoid at least stress
concerning clinic.
I wish a good luck to everyone here!
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I'm sure, you need to do only what you feel is right for you. But it's important to research all the possible options before. I think that it's also good idea to visit other clinics and to talk with their representatives.
We had started with one clinic and then moved to another. It's not difficult to exchange them:)
I never actually worked with the Lister. I heard that they do mainly an egg-donation things. It brings a lot of money to the clinic. In our case we wanted to find an altruistic donor.
To my mind, there will be good and bad reviews to each clinic, because it depends from the outcome of the treatment.
Anyhow, looks like when you're pregnant, you forget about all the negativity. I think, human nature works this way.
But you need to remember. That there is only yourseld during that process.
For sure, if you have a donor, one more person will be involved. Don't forget that the donor may be not happy with the clinic you both are in. In that case she can leave. And it's okay. I mean from the moral side of the question. For sure, it will not be a perfect situation for you, because you will have no treatment at the time you are already prepared for it. In that case you will also lose some money.
On other hand there is an egg-sharer. She wants to get her own baby (and she knows that it's you who pays for treatment), that's why it will hardly happen. The only disadvantage is that it could be very few eggs collected from her.
Think about all these factors.
You need to know how much money you can loose and would clinic replace the donor if it will be needed or not.
There is also a possibility to get some frozen eggs. But I'm not sure that they have it in the Lister. Anyhow, the percent of success is lower in that case.
I had 2 altruistic donors. And the interesting part of it is that I have 2 children from 2 different clinics.
I wish you to make the best possible decision. Take care.
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Thanks for your answers and replies! I guess that in the nearest days I’ll talk to my coordinator in the UK clinic. I’ll see
what she’ll say to me towards my situation. I have already written that I like this clinic and I’d like to stay with them. But at
the other hand I don’t like the result. So, now I think about possible variants. I guess after my talk with the clinic’s worker
I’ll be able to make my decision.
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If you are in the Lister center can you say please about your specialists with whom you are working. Thanks in advance!
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Hi! Oh, I have a good doctor there. Dr Vivan Rittenberg. He seems to be rather skilled. I don’t know what to say about him. He is pleasant like
a person. But I don’t know whether he has big experience of successful ART programs.
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Wow, I don’t know him. I had Dr. James and I like him also!
Wish you to find your best clinic and doctor!    
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I myself used 2 fertility clinics. Was lucky enough to succeed with treatments - I’m heavily prego now. I did hear some negative reviews from people, seems not everyone’s experiencing the best. We all know that positive results depend on many aspects. Some choose switching the clinics if things aren’t going right. Still I thought you could talk to @Alturi about the clinic you’re considering.
We all experience the treatment processes differently. Want we or no, there are too many factors influencing the positive outcome. My path was quite smooth and successful afterwards. Feel free to ask whenever you have questions. Sending you my warm virtual hugs.
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Have you ever wondered about the possible clinic’s and dr’s ego?? I used to notice that at the end of each day these profit organizations are simply making money off from us. I’m with the previously mentioned clinic. The process flow with them is driving me nuts. Though their labs are really great. Also weigh the stats. Pay attention to live birth success rates. Make sure they treat intricate cases. Whether it’s not problematic to use DE. Find out about DE and OE country law. Not patronizing, just willing to help.
This is truly a great thing to be able to trust the place you’re in. Want or not, you’ll have to rely upon the staff during all treatment stages. So that the least you’d want is to have insufficient people around. Go with what feels right for you only..the second chance is given rarely, get sure you’re in good hands. Good luck!
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Hi there,
I’ve been through 4 OE ivf cycles with your clinic over the last 4 yrs. I was quite satisfied with them. Though at my final stages it seems like their services were getting a bit worse - primarily in terms of apps. Just like in your case, my consultant was amazing. I made the decision to move to DD after the last shot. OE seem to be able to reach the blasto stage. Unfortunately then they give up after being transferred. I was unlucky to face severe OHSS whilst my last shot. I’m really scared I could face it again..
For sure I’d never get down to egg sharing path. The clinic we’ve been considering for a while has too long waiting lists. That’s why we decided to turn to another clinic. Moreover we cannot use the donor from the previous clinic in our new one. I’m not told about the actual reasons why. I tried to talk to the manager but she spoke unwillingly and gave me her ‘break up’ side..I’d procrastinated for 2 mons, ‘cause I didn’t want to leave them. I couldn’t stand the idea of egg sharing, also my impatience.. Finally, I attended some of their freebie counselling sessions. The sweet counsellor my reluctance to leave them was obvious. mainly ‘cause I felt safe with them. But she didn’t support my view on egg sharing. That’s why she advised me to try to find another reputable clinic where I could feel comfortable. I believe this is what’s appropriate for you too. Once you find the right place to be in, you’ll do more research on its stats. I’d absolutely agree with the above poster on this point.
I also made the research on other clinics which are willingly using other clinics’ donors. I happened to have a nice talk with a woman, she’s had experience. This way my research narrowed down to 2 clinics. I was ready to book the initial consultations with them the following week. But made yet one call to both clinics to find out whether their donors are altruistic. Was told they weren’t. A lady told me they’ve just started to cooperate with **, that’s why she thought it was worth contacting them too. I saw your post and thought we could be on the same stage of research. I believe keeping to my clinic is of a great importance for me. Wishing you all the very best whatever your final choice is.
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Hi lovelies. We’ve made decision to say with the clinic we’re currently with. I cannot be thankful enough for all your help. It would be really hard without turning to this place. Now we are seriously thinking about donor egg route. Will keep you posted x
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I’m glad to hear this. I’ve stayed at the same place too. Moreover my donor is having initial app the next week! I managed somehow to go from despair to joy, this is unbelievable. Hoping my donor works out perfect. I have to say they’re ‘game changers’. I mean patients are able to review donors’ profiles and choose on their own. Earlier agencies only did those matches.
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I know I joined this thread a bit late. Seems we all had the same consultant whom we trust. And this is one of the reasons we did stay with them. I’m a true fan of long protocols, not short ones. I believe the former always served me better. Also I cannot see the point why people switch clinics due to this reason. I experienced 2 short protocols there as well. I believe this or that treatment plan is not the thing chosen- your dr advises the best for your very case, doesn’t he?
I cannot but ask and this might sound silly. Why do people tend to stay away from egg sharing?? We’re currently on the DE waiting list. It did took time - we joined last summer and only now are close to the top. We’re trying luck with the last ditch shot with OE. We have 2 more shots of a 3 shot batching package. But sth inside me says we should get straight to DE. I think we’ll do it in summer. I don’t care why donors are doing this or where do they come from. The only thing which interests me is whether it’s gonna be a perfect match to me. Does this sound rough? OR do I miss anything bad about egg sharing?
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I won’t be the only one saying there ARE lots of reasons why people aren't’ willing to share their eggs. #1 Some clinics guarantee you 4 eggs only #2 you get concerned about the quality of eggs you get. Some sharers paid out of the pockets for previous failed shots, hence they have to share. Moreover sharers’ age might be older than compared to altruistic donors’. #3 ethics - we may be taking eggs from a woman who actually doesn’t want to do this. This way that woman might reduce her chances of success just to be able to invest into another ivf shot. #1 & #3 for me were obvious. I also thought once if I were lucky enough to conceive with shared eggs and then with OE, I would ‘separate’ my kids in future. The good thing about this though is that you can help another woman who isn’t able to finance yet another go. Needless to say, there’s always a long list for egg sharers at some clinics that you just won’t manage to help.
This is highly and individual decision I should say. Here you’ll find loads of comments on the point, for and against ones. Take time needed. Wishing you the best x
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I came across a few lovelies who’ve been through egg sharing. One lady did it twice. The first couple ended up with bfn. The second couple got bfp. She told she was sharing in order to try for a sibling. Though NHS cycles were successful she did want to help, so shared - just another spin of the events xo
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So much thankful to you for your kind answer, I appreciate. I’ve never thought about all those things. My only opinion was if sb agrees to share eggs then she has no other way out. Your post made me change my mind. I definitely couldn’t take eggs from a woman who was caught with circumstances like a deer in headlights, and had to give her precious eggs aways to be able to afford further treatments..Could I tell my clinic I do not want to use any shared eggs?..
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Ladies, I spoke to the consultant about egg sharing. He seemed to understand my concerns, but said I was a sort overthinking..His only suggestion was to discuss things with their counsellors. I did it and got a completely new perspective on the process. Still I couldn't do this. They were ok about my decision. I went straight to egg donation, but we all are just at the initial stages, my donor hasn’t had the needed tests yet.
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It’s just awesome!! There are many of us dealing with the same place and people. Questions seem also to be the same!
Helen, we’re using a donor too. Seems we’ve been to the same stage. We also considered other clinics, but ended up having reservations about them. Our consultant then advised us looking onto new options..I’m glad we did.
We were matched with the donor today! - so are stepping alongside. The staff is understanding, I love them all smiling. Donor’s appearance was not the biggest concern though, we were expecting the profile we could relate to. I’m ready to say this ‘perfect match’ made us more confident about the whole process.
Dee,
egg sharing is such a personal decision! Knowing pros and cons, some of us have ethical concerns, but wouldn’t it be great to be able once to tell your LO that sb was such a nice person & wanted to help that she offered her own egg..This sb experienced infertility too, so this was a mutual decision of helping each other to become parents one day..
We didn’t go for sharing ourselves. We wanted to keep ALL the eggs lets say to boost chances - I know this might sound silly, but we know people who’ve done the same. Try to put your mind at rest - you’re in good hands!

Let's keep each other updated!
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