Please Please Help!!!!

The husband is reported to be a carpenter who has been doing odd jobs since his visa ran out but has also been claiming a benefit.

Anything that we hear regarding this case is likely to be one sided and there is most certainly a lot of info that we do not know about.

The number of overstayers we have here is incredible. I once worked in a job where part of that job was to arrange travel for people being deported. It wasn't unheard of before the law change for people to come here and have children while on a visa so that the children could be NZ citizens and then return to their home country. It also wasn't unheard of for people to have a child before their visa ran out and then use this as their reason/argument for getting citizenship themselves.

In this case I am wondering why you would have a child in another country, knowing that you would potentially have to move back to a slum with them when your visa runs out. But was this a calculated move or was it an accidental pregnancy? Would they have had children at all if they had still been living in a slum?

I also question why we were ever paying them a benefit if they were overstayers? I don't know a lot about benefits but I would've thought that that was a big no no?? Perhaps it was obtained through falsified info?

If these people were from a more sanitary part of the world there probably wouldn't be much doubt as to what should happen so where do you draw the line? Rules are rules but you also can't help but feel compassion for these children.

For me, these children above anything need to be protected and should remain in NZ. IMO The father if he has been obtaining the benefit illegally should have to do prison time and the mother should be given a month to secure herself a job to support herself and her children. If they wish to stay here they should have to work for it. I say issue them with another visa for a few years and if they've worked hard and paid their dues grant them residency or citizenship but for goodness sake do not let those children anywhere near a slum!!
We have NZers who are absolute scum and probably deserve to spend some time in a slum but we put them in a cell with a flushing toilet and running water and provide some of them with Sky TV!!

Edited by Aprilfools

jazzy wrote: Totally agree with Aprilfools

me too

2 boys - i would not be in this situation end of story. I have lived in various countries in my life (including India) and have always managed to inform myself of the visa situations effectively. If children were involved i would be even more sure of doing this. If i fell pregnant whilst living overseas i would certainly do this.

I agree with the others that we are probably only getting a fraction of the facts about it, but i'm afraid i must be a meany cos while i feel sorry for the family i don't see that it is our responsibility to fix a problem that is their doing. They really need to negotiate with the Indian govt to have their children considered citizens.

I'm not quite sure why it is guaranteed that they will have to live in a slum on their return to India either? Not all Indian people live in slums and people do have choices. Maybe the energies should go towards fundraising to help them set themselves up over there.

anything I think crafty1 would be better than the current government solution. Even if they got Indian citizenship and were to return that would be better than what is currently happening. Ideally I think they should stay here, for the sake of the children, I would be happy if like Aprilfools said there were prison time, community service, a fine, whatever, but if they really cannot be allowed to stay the government could at least allow the children to denounce their citizenship so they can get indian citizenship and at least get healthcare and an education.
I'm not sure why they would return to the slums either, but there was something in the article to do with the particular caste that they are part of.

I'm not sure with NZ rules but in Britain overstayers and aslyum seekers are legally not allowed to work but are given a benefit because it's a breach of human rights to deny them a means to live by.

lizzle wrote: I think in NZ they are just deported.

Sorry I meant that they are not allowed to work and are paid a benefit until their case has been settled, at which point they are either granted residency or deported, not just that Britain pays them a benefit indefinitely.