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Topic: Breastfeeding in public (politics)
Posted By: busymum
Subject: Breastfeeding in public (politics)
Date Posted: 24 August 2007 at 7:49pm
There has been some debate in our local paper about whether the new breastfeeding bill is or isn't necessary. For me, I've never had a problem with people "sticking their nose in" as it were (only about how many kids I have ). What about you? Is this an Auckland thing? Or perhaps I hang around more family-friendly places now that I have 3 preschoolers? Open to discussion.....

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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 24 August 2007 at 7:56pm

I have no problem feeding Josh in public - have done a few times. There have been a few times when I haven't (at a funeral for example). I haven't seen that article which paper was it in Teresa??



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Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 24 August 2007 at 8:17pm
Becks check out last night's paper, letters to the Editor section. Everyone's having a go at that lady at the "great big latch on" (or whatever it was called) day, her pic was in the paper with a 2yo on one side and a 4yo on the other side (don't get me started on that )

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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 24 August 2007 at 8:20pm

The latch on - I went to that, I saw that lady there. I have a feeling that my opinion of that lady may be the same as the papers *off to find the paper*.



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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 24 August 2007 at 8:22pm
OK, so I'm not OK with tandem feeding two and four year olds, but if thats what floats your boat...

But as for publc breastfeeding, I breastfed anywhere I needed to, including in church, as far as I'm concerned it's completely natural.

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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 24 August 2007 at 8:34pm

Ok so I have just read the letters. I do agree with that lady (not the HBA or the woman that was feeding - but how rude of that woman to leave the message on their phones). As someone who was at the latch on I was a little dissapointed that all the focus was on her, just because she was feeding 2 children - there were a number of us there also feeding our babies what about us.

As I said before I am for BF (now I can do it) but I think she drew the line there.



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Posted By: Rachael21
Date Posted: 24 August 2007 at 8:39pm
Don't get me started on bfing. As long as someone is drinking milk breastmilk is always best no matter what age. Boob were designed for feeding. It makes me laugh when people say its not natural, hello its the most natural thing you can do. Thats all I'm going to say cos it gets me so worked up.

I will feed bubs anywhere I fed caprece in the middle of WINZ this week.


Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 24 August 2007 at 8:54pm
Becks, I know, I was a bit annoyed at the paper for making a spectacle of her (publishing her photo) in the first place because it wasn't the 'norm' kind of bf that was going on that day.

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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 24 August 2007 at 9:16pm
I have fed my boys at the mall, in parks, the beach, my nana's funeral; if they were hungry they got fed. And i never had any problems or got any schtick from the public. but some people do apparently...
i wouldnt tandem feed but if people want to thats their choice but dont think the article should have made her the focus, thats not fair to everyone else who was there.


Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 24 August 2007 at 9:38pm
They probably focussed on her (never saw the pic as I don't get your paper, lol) cos its "unusal" to see someone feeding a 2 and a 4 year old, not so much the tandem thing.
I've fed my 2 anywhere and everywhere, and I'm such a mad rabid bf'er I would have a go at anyone who dARED to say anything to me about it.

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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 24 August 2007 at 9:46pm

I'll see if we still have it and i'll get DH to scan it for me.



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Posted By: SMoody
Date Posted: 24 August 2007 at 9:51pm
Please would like to read it. Peaked my interest sort of now.

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Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 24 August 2007 at 10:00pm
LOL Annie, yea I've fed standing up in the supermarket But I am discreet, I've had people (friends/acquaintences) come up to me at different times to see the "sleeping" baby in my arms hehe.

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Posted By: caitlynsmygirl
Date Posted: 25 August 2007 at 10:45am
[QUOTE=GandT] I have fed my boys at the mall, in parks, the beach, my nana's funeral; if they were hungry they got fed. And i never had any problems or got any schtick from the public. but some people do apparently...


i agree , if caitlyn needed feeding id feed her,people that get offended by it (often men) can mind their own business meh


Posted By: caliandjack
Date Posted: 25 August 2007 at 10:58am
I get the impression the legislation is a knee jerk reaction - to a few (like 2) woman who have been asked to stop in a cafe.
Some establishments are a bit old fashioned, and some women aren't at all discreet when BF.

I don't have any probs with BF but I do get a little embarrassed (sorry call me a prude if you like) seeing full on boobs in public.

Which paper is it busymum? Does sound like the article is focusing on a particular person taking things to the extreme for the sake of it.



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Posted By: Aprilfools
Date Posted: 25 August 2007 at 11:26am
This has always annoyed me. We have boobs on TV, in magazines on bikes riding through town even and the thing that people object to is actually seeing them used for their intended purpose!!! They're either a bunch of perves that don't want their sexual fantasies ruined or they're just mean people.
All that's needed here is consideration. Consideration for passers by, by showing some discretion and consideration for a mother who is feeding a hungry child. Wouldn't it be worse if the child were left to go hungry while you walk back to the car, pack the baby, stroller and anything else you have in tow, battle your way (in auckland) home, and then finally get yourself inside and ready to feed the child?? I seriously question anyone that thinks it's not okay to feed a hungry child.
I love seeing a nursing a child, I think it's cute and I can't wait to have a chance to do it myself.


Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 25 August 2007 at 11:28am
Guardian just last Thursday Fleury, in response to her photo being published about a week ago (I presume also the guardian).

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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 25 August 2007 at 11:54am

Yeah it was last weeks one and i'm gutted we have already burnt ours.



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Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 25 August 2007 at 11:55am
Okay, scans follow, hope you can read the text but you can at least see the photo in debate.

Last week's article


This week's response


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Posted By: nictoddie
Date Posted: 25 August 2007 at 12:55pm
Sorry coming from someone that was not able to breastfeed and not gonna go into my issues, I found this way OTT and had to agree with some of the letters, but the lady who rang her home etc that is way out of line and totally uncalled for, each to their own if you want breastfeed your two and four year old then what ever!
But all this campaigning about breast is best blah blah is sometimes a bit much for mums who are unable to etc, ok my rant over

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Posted By: SMoody
Date Posted: 25 August 2007 at 12:55pm
Okay I get highly upset when people try to make other peoples choices out as being really really bad and just plainly rude about it.

I dont think I made it a secret that I personally for my family believe in extended BFding. But that it it. My choice for my family. It isnt harming her and it isnt harming me or our family set up and I dont think it has anything to do with anyone else.

At the same time I do think everyone has a right to their own opinion but at the same time you also have the obligation on how you say it to other people ect.

I have never had a problem with a mom formula feeding and no I never have to hear if she has a supposedly valid excuse (like some people will make you believe you need).

Same goes for birth choices. Doesnt matter to me if someone chose natural versus cesear versus help with medicine to totally unassistant.

What matters to me is if a mother has the best intention for their baby. Takes their baby into consideration with certain decisions.

I sometimes feel we as moms can be the best of friends and at the same time the worst of enemies. Really sad sometimes.

that is why I love OH baby. We have so many different moms with different ways of raising kids it is nice to get different advice and seeing what fits with your family set up.

Okay I know I dwindled a bit of topic. (I just get highly upset when someone gets ridiculed (sp?) for their choices.

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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 25 August 2007 at 1:07pm

The only things I didn't like was that she was the star of the show there, just because she was BF 2 children and they were older children. There were 20 other woman there BF their children.



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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 25 August 2007 at 1:11pm
boy oh boy that was sooo funny..

i love when that lady in the first letter says:
"alongside sensibly weaning children at the appropriate time supervised by Plunket". i wonder if she only buys huggies cause they are endorsed by Plunket too.

I think it is a shame that some people feel the need to feed in toilets, but i think that is their choice and all about how they percieve the feelings of others.

I do feel that sometimes those that do extend breastfeed their children need to be a bit more considerate of others and that lady in the photo wasnt at all. You can see how uncomfortable the lady next to her is. Extended breastfeeding has not been the norm in NZ for a long time and shoving it in peoples faces isnt the best way to promote it.



Posted By: caliandjack
Date Posted: 25 August 2007 at 1:14pm
Originally posted by mummy_becks mummy_becks wrote:

The only things I didn't like was that she was the star of the show there, just because she was BF 2 children and they were older children. There were 20 other woman there BF their children.



Unfortunately that's what publicity is all about, the 20 other women aren't doing anything sensational - none of them would have got letters to the Ed.

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Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 25 August 2007 at 1:17pm
Originally posted by GandT GandT wrote:

i love when that lady in the first letter says:
"alongside sensibly weaning children at the appropriate time supervised by Plunket".


That made me laugh too LOL

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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 25 August 2007 at 1:20pm

There was another woman there feeding 2 children a 9 month old and a 2 year right next to that woman. I was surprised that they didn't try and get her into the photo.



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