Honey Child Nappies offer-research
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Topic: Honey Child Nappies offer-research
Posted By: Two Blondinis
Subject: Honey Child Nappies offer-research
Date Posted: 27 August 2007 at 9:06am
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Just doing a bit of research as our offer for a free HC nappy with a pack hasn't been as successful as the free Fuzzi Bunz nappy with a pack
What would you prefer a free nappy or a cheaper nappy pack? Feel free to offer a suggestion if neither apply ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
 
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Posted By: Kellz
Date Posted: 27 August 2007 at 9:22am
| Cheaper nappies. |
Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 27 August 2007 at 9:37am
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i think you have to give people a chance to get to know the new brand. Just cause it is almost the same as a fuzzi doesnt mean people are instantly going to want it. and when people hear it is nz made they dont expect to have to pay as much as for an imported nappy.
for me i would prefer cheaper. ------------- http://www.myfitnesspal.com/weight-loss-ticker"> 
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Posted By: kebakat
Date Posted: 27 August 2007 at 9:48am
I agree! I would prefer cheaper also. |
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Date Posted: 27 August 2007 at 10:42am
Me too ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: Mama2two
Date Posted: 27 August 2007 at 10:49am
Definitley cheaper ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: Two Blondinis
Date Posted: 27 August 2007 at 11:00am
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Fair comments, but do remember what you get with the free nappy offer $35 off a 6-pack of nappies AND a free one with an insert, also when you buy a pack of HC nappies you get a free extra insert, that is on top of our offer.
I completely agree with your comment Debs about them being similar to FBs, and agree that is not enough to sway people, that's why there is a 30 day money back offer if you really don't like them (pretty generous I think, but I'm biased lol) So what would you expect to pay for a high end NZ-Made pocket nappy? (Seriously!) Your feedback is appreciated and will be sent on to our Head Office  ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: jack_&_charli
Date Posted: 27 August 2007 at 11:10am
i wasn't aware of the honeychild nappy offer, just the fuzzi one. for reference, i'd rather have cheaper nappy packs than free nappies
as for price, the most i've paid for a nz made nappy is $27 with an insert so i wouldn't pay anymore than that  ------------- http://www.alternatickers.com"> 
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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 27 August 2007 at 11:20am
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With an insert i wouldnt really want to pay much more than $30 for a pocket nappy made in NZ.
I have paid about that for an ecobubs pocket nappy but i certainly wouldnt buy one of those now that the price has gone up either...and i consider their inserts superior.! maybe a free postage deal would be a good way to hook people - i'm not sure how much you charge for postage but i always hate paying that extra.. ------------- http://www.myfitnesspal.com/weight-loss-ticker">
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Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 27 August 2007 at 11:33am
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Either offer would sway me I think. I think FB are over-priced and a fair price would be $20 ex insert or $25 incl insert. -------------  |
Posted By: Faraway
Date Posted: 27 August 2007 at 11:40am
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The most I have spent on a pocket nappy (with insert included) is $32 for a BG and that's a OS pocket. For a sized pocket made in NZ the most I have spent is $27 with insert and wouldn't go over that. ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: kebakat
Date Posted: 27 August 2007 at 12:58pm
| The most I'd spend on a pocket nappy (with insert) now is $27 simply because there are so many brands out there now and why pay more when something cheaper does the exact same job just as well and I'm finding the cheaper ones do better than my more expensive ones. |
Posted By: BaAsKa
Date Posted: 27 August 2007 at 1:30pm
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i found using the honeychild nappies after the fuzzys that the HC changes ARE worth it especially the side snaps! theyv been a huge bonus for my boy with fat legs and slightly smaller belly!
Im happy with either free nappy or cheaper nappies and if i had taken the time to look at the HC thread with the free nappy etc i wouldv gone for it! what i bugger!!
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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 27 August 2007 at 2:25pm
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I'm not going to go there with how much I'd pay for a nappy, coz I own far too many nappies that have cost in excess of $30 and just ordered two more Bubblebubs at $34-odd each so I'm not a good test case, I'm hopeless.
But I do think that the new HC nappies are pricing themselves out of the general market. If you're trying to get people to use them as a complete system then it works out a lot more expensive than some of the cheaper local options (eg. Tweedle). I know they are supposedly better quality (I only say supposedly coz I haven't tried them so can't compare) than some of the cheaper ones, but I know for a lot of people at the end of the day, a nappy is a nappy and as long as it doesn't leak they're going to go with the cheaper one. Can't wait to try the HC nappies tho, I ordered scrummy Tangerine ones... ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
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Posted By: james
Date Posted: 27 August 2007 at 2:31pm
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i,d say goo cheaper nappies if i ever have a nother bubs i will be useing mcn but i,m not will to pay big prices just for one nappy ------------- <a href="http://lilypie.com"><img src="http://b4.lilypie.com/nLJ5p13.png" alt="Lilypie 4th Birthday Ticker" border="0" /></a> |
Posted By: Bubbaloo
Date Posted: 27 August 2007 at 2:32pm
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I know I wouldn't pay anymore than $30 dollars for a nappy.
I think cheaper nappy packs would be more tempting than a free nappy. ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">  Was danni-chick Mum to James My Angel 28/07/08 |
Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 27 August 2007 at 4:49pm
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I did just pm you, but I wil add on here as well, I was happy to buy NZ made, but was a little dissapointed the the HC nappies were as dear as the FB, when they are NZ made. tHat said, they have arrived and they look AWESOME, so can't wait to try them out! ------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P |
Posted By: Two Blondinis
Date Posted: 27 August 2007 at 6:17pm
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I took think HCs are a bit on the expensive side for an NZ made nappy, but HCs are made in a factory with over heads so they will never be as cheap as a WAHM making them in her "spare time" and probably not even paying taxes so WAHM nappies are always going to be cheaper.
Just as a side issue with quality Vs Price. I just recently bought a Bug print FB from GandT who used that on both her boys for probably 12mths+ (feel free to correct me Debs)and it's still in good condition and keeps Caitlin just as dry as her newer FBs, I think that is awesome value for money ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 27 August 2007 at 7:06pm
I'm a bit disappointed with my Ecobubs for that reason actually Toni, I paid $30 each for them thinking I could onsell them for around 1/2 that once the gremlins were done with them, but they haven't stood up to washing very well 
I have to say my Fuzzis have been around the neighbourhood on Caitlin's butt, Elle's butt and now they're on Isla's butt and they don't show their age at all, they still look brand new. And they are probably my most-used nappy coz I know they're reliable no matter what I put in them. ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
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Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: cc
Date Posted: 27 August 2007 at 7:33pm
I am actually feeling a little offended by this comment 
My sister in law runs a business from home and it is far from 'spare time' work - just different hours to what 'people who go to work' do. I think anyone who runs a proper business would be paying tax if they are going about it the right way so I think that was a little off to make a comment like that (just my TCW). Factory produced products should be cheaper or at least cost next to nothing to produce.
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Posted By: Paws
Date Posted: 27 August 2007 at 8:23pm
I'm sure Toni doesn't mean to offend but her point is valid with regards to costs....HC nappies (and FB nappies) are made in large factories to fulfill demand and at HC alone there are a number of staff before you even get into the number of agents (which is what 40+)...those are all overheads that most WAHM's, at least the ones I personally know, don't necessarily have. And bias aside I became an agent because FB have been a great brand. Like Toni I have nappies that are a couple of years old that still look like new. Granted there have been issues since the move to produce in Mexico but HC have taken the best of FB and improved on it so really, it's like anything, you do get what you pay for. If the nappies prove themselves then i am more than happy to pay more. I'd rather do that I know that I can use them through several children than have to go buy more. I have onsold a lot of WAHM nappies becuase I felt like they didn't really stand up where as I only onsold my FB when I became an agent so I could buy all new ones...quite frankly for the hell of it, not because we needed to. There was nothing wrong with them. ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 27 August 2007 at 9:34pm
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There are other things to take into account with the WAHM vs factory made issue. Generally with fabric, as with most other things, the more you buy the cheaper it is, so the cost of materials per nappy would be far less for a factory made nappy which might be made in a batch of 1000 vs a WAHM nappy made in a batch of 20. Same goes with shipping costs, the more you ship the cheaper it is. So I think to outright say it's cheaper for a WAHM to make a nappy than to make a factory nappy is a bit misleading. It's just that the costs are different. ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
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Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: Two Blondinis
Date Posted: 28 August 2007 at 8:43am
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Perhaps I didn't explain myself properly, I'll try to...
When I said "spare time" I meant that as a tongue in cheek comment as all us Mums know there is no such thing as spare time! In regards "low overheads" I meant not paying tax, a lot of WAHM nappy producers are a small set up and wouldn't necessarily make $40k per year (the cut off before you have to pay GST), also wouldn't have as many staff/agents to sell the product who expect to get paid too, rent for the factory & set up costs and also haven't spent thousands on development of the product to ensure it is up to scratch to be sold alongside the high-end market products. Bulk buying of material is true, but not when that material is also top-end fabric to ensure the product is as good as it claims Postage - We can't freight out 12 nappies, so they're always going to be $10 p&p as they are couriered to ensure your product reaches you, if not then there is a way to track them = least inconvenience to the customer should they go missing on route. This thread was not meant as a justificatiion for the cost of a nappy it was more a question of are we giving you the offers you want. ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: lilfatty
Date Posted: 28 August 2007 at 3:02pm
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The cheaper the better I feel ..... also maybe a loyalty system? That might sway people. ------------- Mummy to Issy (3) and Elias (18 months) I did it .. 41 kgs gone! From flab to fab in under a year  http://www.femininefitness.co.nz/category/blog - LFs weight blog
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Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 28 August 2007 at 8:00pm
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Just wanted to say, i'm loving mine... ------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P |
Posted By: Paws
Date Posted: 28 August 2007 at 10:42pm
HC do already have a referral/loyalty system in place which rewards you whenever you refer new customers. Hopefully your agent would have explained all that to you. ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: lilfatty
Date Posted: 29 August 2007 at 7:50am
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I kind of meant buy a certain amount get one free ... like at the coffee shop lol I actually dont know any pregnant women personally in my circle ... so I wouldnt have anyone to refer :( ------------- Mummy to Issy (3) and Elias (18 months) I did it .. 41 kgs gone! From flab to fab in under a year http://www.femininefitness.co.nz/category/blog - LFs weight blog
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Posted By: Paws
Date Posted: 29 August 2007 at 8:03am
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Well effectively that's what we offered in both our OB offers, but a six pack and get a free nappy...but everyone else here has said that they don't want a free $35 nappy!
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Posted By: lilfatty
Date Posted: 29 August 2007 at 8:09am
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Hmm yes I saw that, but not everyone can afford a six pack in one hit.... I know its a lot of work, but if you had a loyalty card system, each nappy purchase could go against the total required to be eligable for your free one.... It would also be fantastic if people could choose to give you there purchase (eg if grandma wanted to buy two as a gift or something like that) to your loyalty card number. ALSO.... Another idea (yes I know more admin) .... my husband belongs to a loyalty system thats based on $ and for every $150.00 they spend (accumulatively) they get a $15.00 voucher, that might help as the extras (inserts, boosters etc) could be included and it would be easier for people to get some kind of reward. ------------- Mummy to Issy (3) and Elias (18 months) I did it .. 41 kgs gone! From flab to fab in under a year http://www.femininefitness.co.nz/category/blog - LFs weight blog
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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 29 August 2007 at 8:25am
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those are some good ideas lilfatty. and your right not everyone can afford or wants to buy 6 in one go. ------------- http://www.myfitnesspal.com/weight-loss-ticker">
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Posted By: Faraway
Date Posted: 29 August 2007 at 8:49am
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I agree. That would be a good way to reward loyalty to the brand. ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: Paws
Date Posted: 29 August 2007 at 8:59am
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So people would be happy to pay the higher one off price if they got a free nappy after they had bought 6 or 12 of them instead of getting a package price?
I'm also wondering...are people aware that we have a system for nappies to be paid off so you don't have to pay the cost up front? Does that make any difference to people who would eventually be buying the equivelant of a pack of nappies? ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: lilfatty
Date Posted: 29 August 2007 at 9:11am
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I personally wouldnt pay anymore for a nappy than the retail price of a fuzzibun as I dont see why I would move to a more expensive product. IF another product was the same price but offered a loyalty system based on a cumulative spend then I would consider changing ESPECIALLY if friends and family could gift there purchases to my account. A package deal is not really any good to me as my family and friends will be buying nappies and at $30+ per person they dont see it as a big outlay...but it helps us out tremendously. Also....if you did the cumulative spend thing.......that would help out parents as there kiddies grow and change sizes or they wanted to buy gifts for other mothers (which would also be a great way to get new mums aware of your product)...for example I often purchase birthday, christmas gifts etc at shops where I earn loyalty points as the person gets a gift and I also get something. Anyway.....just an idea from one mummy to be
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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 29 August 2007 at 9:13am
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i think tho that a lot of people prefer to buy one or two to start then decide if they suit them or their baby, then they may decide to get more if they do.
People are still going to buy them, but i think you do have to expect a bit of trepidation about the honey child nappies are they are essentially untested by the nappy buying public yet. I think that maybe charity might have been better off selling them at a lower price to start with to build up her client base and reputation then up her prices. ------------- http://www.myfitnesspal.com/weight-loss-ticker">
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Posted By: jack_&_charli
Date Posted: 29 August 2007 at 9:29am
an 'introductory' price would've been a great idea. i would probably have tried one at a lower price and then perhaps been swayed to get more if i liked them that much. ------------- http://www.alternatickers.com">
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Posted By: kebakat
Date Posted: 29 August 2007 at 9:41am
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Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 29 August 2007 at 10:42am
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Keep on trucking Toni and Gen... good reviews from those who have tried them and that can only continue (and bring up the acceptance of the HC packs to the same as the FB packs). I know if I had a babe still in nappies then I'd be buying one!
I do think the naps are generally expensive, but it seems you get what you pay for.
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Posted By: MissCandice
Date Posted: 29 August 2007 at 3:09pm
I would prefer cheaper nappies, i mean i buy one at a time.. i cant afford to go out and buy 6 or 12.. its just way to much for my one income family, as much as id love too.. Id like to try a HC nap, and a FB nap, because i dont own either  Iv got some peapods and some bumgenius.. but i havent tried either yet.
I mean peapods were cheap 3 for $50.. thats great! ------------- ~ Mummy to a beautiful girl ~ |