Pumpkin
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Topic: Pumpkin
Posted By: ginger
Subject: Pumpkin
Date Posted: 18 September 2007 at 8:16am
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It's everywhere at the moment, as something like this would be, but it makes me feel so sad and desperate.
Al said last night that he thinks the father has probably killed the mother, and dumped the little girl. In that case, he's probably done the kindest thing for her - left her somewhere public and relatively safe. As someone though, that would give a lot to have a child, it's has affected me surprisingly to know that there is a little girl out there who needs a family. I'd adopt her in a hearbeat, and I'm not just saying that. For whatever reason, my mind and heart are turning increasingly to adoption at the moment. Perhaps it's knowing what we've got to go through to have a child, and that there are already so many children out there, like Pumpkin, who are already here and need a family. Isn't the world a funny, funny place? ------------- Cuinn Lachlan 23.1.09 - 22:00 Antonia Helene 4.8.11 - 09:41 |
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Posted By: ginger
Date Posted: 18 September 2007 at 8:18am
I suppose I should have posted that under 'in the news'  Sorry!  ------------- Cuinn Lachlan 23.1.09 - 22:00 Antonia Helene 4.8.11 - 09:41 |
Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 18 September 2007 at 8:22am
i have been thinking about poor pumpkin too. Not too sure about the murder angle. sounds like she has been abandoned by both parents. And to think her parents may be NZers! 
and ginger it certainly wouldnt hurt to start looking into adoption anyway. you may find yourself with kids all over the place...!!  ------------- http://www.myfitnesspal.com/weight-loss-ticker"> 
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Posted By: jack_&_charli
Date Posted: 18 September 2007 at 8:54am
ginger i was also thinking the father had killed the mother.....that poor girl must be so frightened ------------- http://www.alternatickers.com"> 
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Posted By: Rachael21
Date Posted: 18 September 2007 at 9:02am
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Posted By: MummyFreckle
Date Posted: 18 September 2007 at 10:04am
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She is so adorable too....it breaks your heart doesnt it, she must have been so scared. On the upside - she is prob going to have a much better life with an adoptive family than she would have with a father that would do something like dump her. My mum has a friend who adopted 2 litle girls from china, a brother and sister from Fiji and then another little girl from China. They are all grown up now, and she has done an awesome job (she was a single mum!!) - I think adoption is fantastic, especially when you have so much love to give to a child.
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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 18 September 2007 at 10:09am
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Ginger my DH agrees with that theory of Murder, it kinda makes sense. Will have to wait and see now. ------------- I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived! |
Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 18 September 2007 at 10:12am
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Yeah it is really upsetting, I also think he may have topped the mum especially as there is no sign of her even with the amount of news coverage. It is good that NZ, OZ and the US are all working together to find the parents. I hope that she is safely settled into a family soon, be it hers or an adoptive one. She must be so scared at the moment, it is no wonder she didn't speak for 3 days. ------------- 
 
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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 18 September 2007 at 10:14am
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hubby thinks so too. i mean, what mum wouldn't be beside herself if her estranged hubby took off with her daughter.
makes you just wanna hop a plane and pick her up "thank you" and bring her back home. In japan they have an "unwanted children" box at some hospitals that poeple keep leaving toddlers in. I can understand saying you are tempted to leave them somewhere as they yell and scream, but never in a heartbeat would anyone I know. |
Posted By: MummyFreckle
Date Posted: 18 September 2007 at 10:19am
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In Italy they used to have special boxes at Convents for unwanted children that were in the walls, and you could put the baby into it then turn the handle and it would turn into the wall of the convent so the nuns would tak the baby. They have just re-introduced these at some of the big hospitals through Italy. ------------- http://lilypie.com"> http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 18 September 2007 at 10:22am
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I saw a thing on those boxes in Japan, same as you when they are screaming a place but I could never leave behind my boys. ------------- I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived! |
Posted By: caraMel
Date Posted: 18 September 2007 at 10:22am
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I was watching the news story last night and my heart was breaking for little Pumpkin.
I saw her wandering round looking for her Daddy and getting upset and all I wanted to do was wrap her up and bring her home. I think adoption is an amazing thing to do Ginger, a huge gift for both the parents and the child. ------------- Mel, Mummy to E: 6, B: 4 and: 
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Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 18 September 2007 at 10:31am
I've heard of those boxes in Japan before too, I couldn't imagine just leaving a baby there! But it's better than some of the things that have been unhappening with unwanted newborns in NZ lately   -------------  |
Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 18 September 2007 at 10:47am
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AH bugger. Just watched the news clip and . poor little kiddo!! She's so so so cute too.
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Posted By: buzimumto3boys
Date Posted: 18 September 2007 at 11:14am
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I hope it isnt what everyone thinks and that maybe the mum just doesnt watch news etc (alot of ppl dont) and that they will find her alive and well.... and throw the dad in jail for a LONG time!!
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Posted By: ShellandBella
Date Posted: 18 September 2007 at 12:44pm
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Isn't she just an adorable wee girl, my heart broke when that story came out...I had an awful feeling that the father may have killed the mother - seems a bit fishy that they can't locate the mother and now the father is supposedly in the US...?? If that were the case, I am so glad that wee Pumpkin was spared...Here's hoping this story has a happy ending. ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 18 September 2007 at 12:53pm
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In the US they have made it perfectly legal to drop of an unwanted baby at fire station, hospitals etc with no questions asked, seems horrible but it has stopped a lot of unwanted newborns being killed by mums who just don't know what else to do. They should probably introduce something like that here and let the babies go to homes where they will be loved. -------------
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Posted By: buzimumto3boys
Date Posted: 18 September 2007 at 1:29pm
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Oh sad. I just heard on the news the family of Pumpkin have been investigated by police and CYFS... So obviously that is why they are really stressing about finding the mum alive!! That poor girl.
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Posted By: Kels
Date Posted: 18 September 2007 at 8:09pm
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Posted By: Bombshell
Date Posted: 18 September 2007 at 9:12pm
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weird but noone believed me around home when i said right at beginning - bet he has killed her and bet she has had a protection order against him.....Im always right on these things....
OMG its all becoming too obvious lately....poor kid! I just hope they find the mums body soon - I dont doubt it was a sword thing for him, and hope there is family to take her in....she is a totally cute kiddie! |
Posted By: jack_&_charli
Date Posted: 18 September 2007 at 9:29pm
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when i heard she'd been abandoned by her dad my first thought was he'd killed the mum and run off......very sad ------------- http://www.alternatickers.com">
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Posted By: buzimumto3boys
Date Posted: 18 September 2007 at 9:40pm
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I wonder what truly happened to his older daughter then? Maybe the police will get hold of her in their travels on this case? Must be heart breaking for the foster family hearing her cry for her mummy.
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Posted By: MummyFreckle
Date Posted: 19 September 2007 at 5:04pm
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Well...it seems that this just get worse....check out the latest news: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10464576 - http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10464576
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Posted By: meow
Date Posted: 19 September 2007 at 7:13pm
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Well if that's the case I hope that the poor little girl can live with her grandmother (if she knows her, that is). That is soooo sad She is so cute too, how could the father do that to her? (and to the mother, if that's the case). ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: buzimumto3boys
Date Posted: 19 September 2007 at 7:39pm
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Poor girl Was weird too cus when I saw the news last night I noticed his car on the rd and wondered why he didnt take that to the airport or park it in the drive... (I know I have weird trains of thought!)
I like to think at least he didnt kill the little girl as well... he so could have. |
Posted By: caraMel
Date Posted: 19 September 2007 at 7:45pm
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That is so very sad. I really hope they catch him! ------------- Mel, Mummy to E: 6, B: 4 and:
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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 19 September 2007 at 8:19pm
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we could have a wee Pumpkin living with us. am so tempted to just get on that plane and pick her up.
Not sure how I feel about the dad dumping her..i mean, why would he not just have left her in NZ? was he planning to take her with him and then she got "annoying", or was he just trying to buy himself some more time by leaving her there. At least he lefther somewhere public. |
Posted By: my4beauties
Date Posted: 19 September 2007 at 9:15pm
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Looks like the mum is dead - so so sad! At least he didn't hurt "Pumpkin", but why take her to a whole other country & leave her? Maybe he thought that would buy him time while he took off to the States. If he'd left her in NZ they would've found "Pumpkin's" details sooner. Smart thinker huh.
I'm amazed at how fast they did discover she was from NZ & her address. I heard she didn't speak much english. Poor poor wee girl!!! Even though she's lost her mum, hopefully she'll live a happier life with her horrible father not in it. ------------- My babies: R (9),G (7), J (5) http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: jaz
Date Posted: 19 September 2007 at 9:22pm
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I can't work out why he went to Australia. And how can you think you won't get caught if you leave a body in the boot of the car outside the family home. ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: buzimumto3boys
Date Posted: 20 September 2007 at 7:02am
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I guess time will tell if he will be caught or not... he has disappeared so far.. I mean how long can he run?? Some people can for years!!
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Posted By: jaz
Date Posted: 20 September 2007 at 8:55am
Well considering they aren't actually looking for him he's not going to turn up any time soon. He could be anywhere by now. I think the whole things been handled incredibly badly by the police. They were still calling the little girl Pumpkin when they knew her real name and were trying to locate her Mother without revealing her identity.  ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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buzimumto3boys wrote:Posted By: Bubbaloo
Date Posted: 20 September 2007 at 11:00am
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I agree with Jaz the Police have not handled it very well at all here and over in OZ I really hope they catch the father but he can be anywhere by now I don't think they have even got in touch with interpol yet. ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">  Was danni-chick Mum to James My Angel 28/07/08 |
Posted By: buzimumto3boys
Date Posted: 20 September 2007 at 11:20am
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Aparently they have contacted all the people but now have to go through all the paper work!!
Their should be a system of saying "hey this guy is suspected of this crime and we need to locate him..." then they can look for him.. find him... and keep tabs til the paper work is through... even holding them for x amount of time would be good. All the paper work and channels you have to go through could drive them mad!! |