Putting baby down awake or asleep???
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Topic: Putting baby down awake or asleep???
Posted By: Lib
Subject: Putting baby down awake or asleep???
Date Posted: 03 November 2005 at 12:55pm
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Hi there,
this is the first time I have really been on here but wanted some advice..... I am finding it very hard to put my baby down, if he is asleep he wakes up within half an hour or so and if I put him down awake he won't stop screaming. Any ideas?? ------------- Lib |
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Posted By: lenabeanz
Date Posted: 03 November 2005 at 1:25pm
Hey there 
How old is he?? There is a post in Toddler Times called "Sleeping Habits" and there we have been talking about controlled crying etc but then it depends on babys age too... ------------- http://www.snugglepie.com"> 
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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 03 November 2005 at 1:28pm
| my son did the same thing when he was really little. Turned out to be wind. When he was about six weeks we started trying to put him to sleep when he was really really sleepy but before he was asleep properly. We tried to make sure this was at the same time every night. Although he didn't sleep much longer than two hours, it made it easier for him to go down. But I really agree with Lena, it depends a lot on the age of the child |
Posted By: paigesmum
Date Posted: 03 November 2005 at 1:46pm
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If hes pretty young have you tried wrapping him I found Blake used to startle him self and wake so I went back to wraping and he was good! I did it upto 3 1/2 months.
Hope this helps. Karen. ------------- http://www.babysfirstsite.com"> 
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Posted By: Lib
Date Posted: 03 November 2005 at 1:49pm
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He's six weeks on Sunday, when he is finally worn out he sleeps ok but it can take hours to get him to sleep and I end up feeding him non-stop.
I had advise from my sister to put him down awake and let him cry but we've done this and he doesnt stop crying...I usually give in and go and pick him up. ------------- Lib |
Posted By: Lib
Date Posted: 03 November 2005 at 1:51pm
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Hey Karen,
thanks for your message, I tried wrap him but he likes to have his hands free so he can suck his fingers. I now wrap him in a blanket and then have his main blanket on his aswell ------------- Lib |
Posted By: lenabeanz
Date Posted: 03 November 2005 at 1:54pm
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If you have plunket rooms accessible to you you can go there for a day and they will see how he's feeding, sleeping etc (mainly see what his routine is) - and then they just give you advice on what they think the best plan of action is - or if your still under your midwifes care ask if they can spend a couple of hours with you around his feed / sleep time.
Could be anything at all - wind, overtired, not tired, your milk / supply (this has just happened to my neighbour with a month old baby) or he might just be a stubborn baby!! Good luck ------------- http://www.snugglepie.com">
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Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 03 November 2005 at 1:55pm
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It was ages before Jacob got used to being put down awake. We did the cry it out thing, and it worked after a couple of weeks, although I would go in and get him after 10 minutes. My plunket nurse advised me to stop having a "set bedtime" Idea for night, and just let him go when he was tired, as I found i was trying to get him down from about 7pm till sometimes midnight before he would go to sleep. I started off putting him down at 10pm, he'd cry for 5 or 10 mins then off to sleep. I gradually moved bedtime back by half an hour untill he was in bed by 7. I did that every ten days or so. I found secrets of the baby whisperer an AWESOME book for helping me get some routine into Jacobs sleep patterns, my midwife reccomended it. Also wrapping is meant to be great, but Jake never liked it. Hope this helps? ------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P |
Posted By: Xander&Harmony
Date Posted: 03 November 2005 at 1:58pm
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ohhhh yes i know all about stubborn babies lol.my girl is one and right up until recently she just would not go to sleep and stay asleep during the day.shes now almost 6 mnths old and am managing 1 sleep a day (just),2 sleeps if i am REALLY lucky. i am not too fussed as she is sleeping thru the night.her Big brother keeps her amused which is kool lol ------------- BECS http://www.sparklee.com"> 
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Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 03 November 2005 at 1:58pm
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Also, could be wind? jake had real trouble with this. He liked to suck his fingers, and dare I say it, a dummy, which I would take out just before he was asleep. My p/nurse also said pitting bub to sleep first not such a great idea, because it upsets him when he wakes up and he's not where he went to sleep (i.e your arms), same as the dummy thing, apparently if you use a "prop" to help sleep, you have to use the prop everytime they wake up, but if they learn to go off on their own, they can re selttle themselves if they wake up. Hope that made sense? ------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P |
Posted By: Lib
Date Posted: 03 November 2005 at 2:00pm
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thanks for the tips, they're great! I am somewhere in between plunket and midwife care at the moment so just throwing out the questions to you guys.
Another one for you then....if I haven't heard from plunket by the time he is 6 weeks old should I take him to a GP for his 6 week check up? ------------- Lib |
Posted By: HelenElla
Date Posted: 03 November 2005 at 2:02pm
| I found the same thing with Chloe when she was very young. I was really bad at giving in to her or feeding her or carrying her non stop so she would sleep. I found that using the controled crying method worked really well although it did take about a week of doing it before she learnt to just fall asleep on her own. It may sound really silly but when she was three weeks I found she wouldn't fall asleep unless there was a dim light on. At about 12weeks Chloe started not sleeping very well and after a week of trying the controled crying again I took her to the doc where we found she had colic(really bad wind) and we were given natural ginger mixture to settle her. |
Posted By: Lib
Date Posted: 03 November 2005 at 2:03pm
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Yes...we have got the dummy. I hate to use it, in fact he had it in his mouth when I went into a shop the other day, I snuck it out and stuck it down the side of his carseat, he screamed his lungs out, dunno which was more embarrasing the screaming or admitting he had a dummy
------------- Lib |
Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 03 November 2005 at 2:08pm
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ha ha I'm hearing you! Jake still spits it out, would rather thumb suck, which is fine, but when he was littler he would take the dummy in bed, and I would rescue it out before he was fully asleep, seemed to work. I took Jake to Dr for his 6 week check anyway, and we got our vaccinations when we where there, and I had my 6 week check out (which my midwife had done as well)at the same time. ------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P |
Posted By: k&jsmum
Date Posted: 03 November 2005 at 2:10pm
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hi i had that prob with jaidyn and i think it was cos he was my b/f twin he would scream when put down awake or if i let him fall asleep on me (which i didnt like to do but when a sleep deprived mum of twins was trying anything) he would wake up as soon as i put him in cot. in the end i contacted plunket and they took both boys for me (which of cse jaidyn behaved perfectly and dropped off 2 sleep like and angel!!!!) i eneded up doing the sleep program but it wasnt until he was older about 8mths. but i found (palmy) plunket to be fantastic also the hadbooks and videos i could loan out ------------- Marlene Keegan ~ 14 October 2003 Jaidyn ~ 14 October 2003 |
Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 03 November 2005 at 2:11pm
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We have a little 7 watt might light which is great, provides Jake with a little light to help him sleep (dosent like dark either) and its just enough for you to see in the middle of nite for feed, change etc, but not bright enough to light up the whole house or drain your power. Got mine at warehouse for about 5 bux. ------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P |
Posted By: lenabeanz
Date Posted: 03 November 2005 at 2:21pm
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Night lights are a godsend!!!
We took Arna to the Dr. for her 6 week check - she got her jab first then check up. M/W does a check up as well when she discharges you (Well this happened in my case!!) Don't worry about dummies - I was 100% against them when I was pregnant but then somehow we got one and used it - it was only for a few weeks when I was in hospital but she quickly found her fingers and I don't know where the dummy has gone!! - I got alot of funny looks / bad comments about dummies but if you use the orthopedic ones then you have your own comeback!!  ------------- http://www.snugglepie.com">
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Posted By: newmum
Date Posted: 03 November 2005 at 2:43pm
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I think dummys are great!!! I really don't know why everyone in NZ is so anti them! If it works for you then do it. There was something on the news the other day re. dummys being good against SIDS too.... so they can't be all bad! ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: aimeejoy
Date Posted: 03 November 2005 at 5:29pm
We have tried using a dummy as well - Hannah likes to suck her own tongue  but if she does that too much she is difficult to feed, so have been popping a dummy in and taking it out before shes in a really deep sleep. Love it! I try and put her down drowsy and she usually cries for a minute or so then is out to it.------------- Aimee Hannah 22/10/05 Greer 11/02/08 |
Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 03 November 2005 at 9:31pm
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My little one used to go to sleep on my shoulder at night and she started sleeping through at about 7 weeks old. Lots of people told me that I should let her cry herself to sleep or that she would wake up and be confused but it didn't seem to bother Hannah.
I couldn't let her cry and decided that I was willing to let her fall asleep on me for the next couple of years if I had to seeing as I was the one that had to deal with it. It was when Han was about 3 months that I discovered that she was more than happy to fall asleep by herself so now I know she can do it! We have had our problems since then (esp during teething) but overall she's an awesome sleeper. I think I had a point... oh yeah... babies sometimes have a way of sorting themselves out. Good luck with your little one |
Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 03 November 2005 at 11:08pm
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lolol sorry Lena - just found your comment funny about the orthopeadic dummies - i think you meant orthodontic??? lolol
Lib, don't be afraid to admit you use a dummy - millions of parents do - it's not a sign you are a bad mum - it is a sign that you have found something at least that soothes and comforts your baby in between feed times and gives you enough of a break so that you can be a well rested happier mum. ------------- Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja 
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Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 03 November 2005 at 11:12pm
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I think it isold ladies that makes us ashamed to admit we use them, but hey, it keeps them content, so what of it? The ones who say about dummies would be the same ones who whinge about b/feeding in public! ------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P |
Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 04 November 2005 at 1:13am
| i was completely againest dummies too, but Jake used one from about 6 weeks to about 8 months, when we lost the last one and he didn't even seem to notice. i was worried he'd be like 10 and still using one, but no problems! |
Posted By: nuttymama
Date Posted: 04 November 2005 at 6:58am
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On the topic of sleeping, abby is now nine months and we have just got her into her own bed. During the day she will now go down awake and is quite happy to drift of to sleep. At night she still has nights that she will cry herself to sleep (usually for 15-30mins) but she will wake up have a feed and self settle herself. All we did was make sure she was well fed and obviously tired and for the first two weeks I sat in the room with her so she new I was there and she was safe. At night I make sure she has a bath at the same time everynight and she gets put down at the same time everynight. This was a lot of hard work and took so much willpower not to pick her up and hug her but it was so worth it. She used to scream for hours as well hence it has taken me so long to get tough. Iv'e found the key is staying in the room and rubbing the back the odd time. I can now put her down on her own during the day with no hassles and don't have to be in the room. I wish I had done it ages ago. Good luck. As for the dummies I have three kids, two who wouldn't take dummies and one who did. the one who did take a dummy is the only one who would sleep like a dream from birth. If they take them I say let them have it. ------------- Abigail 06/01/2005 Jayden 21/11/2001 Micheal 03/04/1997 |
Posted By: bub
Date Posted: 04 November 2005 at 10:14am
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Brianna was a screamer she just wouldn't sleep i was soft at first but you cant really give in otherwise you just go insane i just had to let her cry and cry and she would go to sleep in the end after a few hugs and cuddles and then it was like 1 day she just grew out of it and started going to sleep good as
goodluck Rachel & Brianna ------------- mother to Brianna, Amelia & Mathew. http://lilypie.com">  
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Posted By: Lib
Date Posted: 07 November 2005 at 2:49pm
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Thanks everyone for your comments & suggestions...Its very helpful and makes me realise I am doing ok
I have realised tho that I want to get Israel into good routines early and will definately be trying a lot of your ideas. Thanks!! ------------- Lib |
Posted By: lenabeanz
Date Posted: 07 November 2005 at 4:09pm
Haha Janine I just read your post - Oops!! yeah I meant orthodontic!
Lib - take the advice you think will work and just a matter of trial and error! Thats all mother hood is  ------------- http://www.snugglepie.com">
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Posted By: Delaneyhoes
Date Posted: 08 November 2005 at 10:05pm
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My doctor suggested a cycle routine for Ella as she had refulx and needed time to digest her feeds before having a sleep and I found it really helped for getting the girls off to sleep as well.
When they wake give them a feed and then keep them awake and let them have a play for up to an hour and a half(depending on age) from the start of their feed and then put them down for their nap. Because they have had awake time they are tired and ready for a sleep. It then goes in a cycle of feed, play, sleep, feed, play, sleep etc. I started this from when the girls were about 10 weeks old and they are in a good routine and are happy settled babies only ever cry if they have left over wind. Also I use dummies! They are a life saver and I swear by them - if it keeps my babies happy I am happy!  ------------- http://www.babysfirstsite.com"> 
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Posted By: Xander&Harmony
Date Posted: 09 November 2005 at 3:23pm
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Aww ur babies are all so cute!!! ------------- BECS http://www.sparklee.com">
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Posted By: Dashone
Date Posted: 09 November 2005 at 3:55pm
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I think that dummies are ok till a certain age. You dont want them to have one when at the age of 4.
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Posted By: Delaneyhoes
Date Posted: 09 November 2005 at 6:04pm
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I agree I think there is an age when you really need to take the dummy off kids. It just doesnt look right a toddler having a dummy to suck on! Its a bit like 4 year olds still having a bottle! ------------- http://www.babysfirstsite.com">
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Posted By: Delaneyhoes
Date Posted: 09 November 2005 at 6:05pm
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Thanks Xandersmum I think they are a bit of alright too!
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Posted By: Xander&Harmony
Date Posted: 09 November 2005 at 8:36pm
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pretty kewl how u got two boys first then 2 girls!!!! ------------- BECS http://www.sparklee.com">
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Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 10 November 2005 at 8:47am
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i was just looking at your ticker yesterday thinking the same thing lol..
re: dummies, yeah i got to the point where i realllly hated paris having hers - and she wasn't even 2 yet, nearly always tried to make sure she didn't have it up town etc, and only gave it for bed.. but sometimes, you gotta decide between people looking at you cos you've got a screaming tired child and people frowning at you cos your kids got a dummy stucking out their mouth. the frowning was much easier to handle... lol
just reading back - about the comment jacobsmama made.. about old ladies being the ones complaining about dummy use... my mum, has always gone on at me and my sisters about using them, and was like the dummy nazi - as soon as she saw our kids with one, she'd take it out of their mouth, even if it meant they screamed and woke up... till i found out not long ago that she used one with both of my older sisters when they were babies!!! am glad to say she now leaves them alone! ------------- Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja
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Posted By: newmum
Date Posted: 10 November 2005 at 8:57am
LMAO, secret squirrel mum 
Delaneyhoes - I think your family is gorgeous too! Love the photo! How do you manage with 4 kids!! ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 10 November 2005 at 10:13am
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awwwwwwwwwwwww really cute kidlets!!! the twins look like they are doing really well and your little boys look so gorgeous
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Posted By: Delaneyhoes
Date Posted: 10 November 2005 at 4:21pm
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Ohhh You guys are all so nice!newmum I really dont find it that bad having 4 kids for me its like just having one baby split in two. You do everything as normal for one baby just twice at the same time. I have to admit routine is the key and I had already been there done that twice so I was not as nervous. I think the hardest thing I find is the washing!!! Oh my god I have never seen so much of it in my life!
Back to the sleeping thing, life is alot easier now they sleep well. Also I have a nana who frowns upon the dummy thing. When she gives me the look of disaproval I just ask her if she would like to look after the twins without the dummy?! The answer is a simple NO! LOL ------------- http://www.babysfirstsite.com">
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Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 10 November 2005 at 8:01pm
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Beautiful kids, Delaneyhoes!!!
Janine, your mum sounds UNREAL! bet you have some great rows! ------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P |