Am I mad?
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Topic: Am I mad?
Posted By: sparkle
Subject: Am I mad?
Date Posted: 22 October 2007 at 8:33pm
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Cooper's routine at night is:
Feed at 5.30 - 6.00 Bath, pjs More feed Quiet time in bedroom, singing etc Then in bed by 6.45 I sometimes have to settle him a couple of times, by most of the time he is asleep by 7.00ish. He then wakes around 12ish for another fed, back down and then up again around 4.00ish. He's done this since 6weeks old. Now this is where it turns to custard. He goes down after that feed fine, but only for around an hour and a half. The last 3 days we've been up again around half five and he thinks it's playtime. Now for my question. DO you think i'd be mad to wake him tonight, say around 10.00 to feed him? I'm normally of the "don't wake a sleeping baby" kinda thinking, but part of me wants to see if feeding him then will "trick" him into not waking at 12 but maybe 2 or 3 then sleeping from that feed till 6ish. Or am I just dreaming? Should I just let him make his own routines??? ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: kebakat
Date Posted: 22 October 2007 at 8:36pm
| We ALWAYS wake Daniel for a late feed. It works brilliantly for us. We have always given him a 10:30pm dream feed, if we don't do this he usually wakes around midnight.. and lately we have been giving him an extra feed at 8pm.. since this has been happening he started sleeping through til 6-7am.. they usually don't wake up at all, just enough to get the sucking reflex going if you do it nice and quietly with the light off. No fuss. All I do is go in pick him up, sit down, feed in the dark and put him straight back in bed. |
Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 22 October 2007 at 8:36pm
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I say give it a go! I gave all my girls a "dream feed" at around 10pmish before I went to bed and to start with it got them thru till 3amish, but eventually they were sleeping thru till 7am. Plunket first recommended it with Maya to "fill her up" for the night and it worked beautifully and had her sleeping right thru by 7 weeks so I did it again with the gremlins and again it worked beautifully, altho they were closer to 4 mnths before they started sleeping thru. -------------  Maya Grace (28/02/03)
 (02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: MILF
Date Posted: 22 October 2007 at 8:45pm
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i would definately do it, we had a bad stage of not sleeping for a while, so i would give her a dream feed before bed and it made a difference.
even if it doesnt work, you should know within a few days, so you could drop the feed if you needed and baby wouldnt miss it. ------------- Lyla - mum to Xanthe - my big 4 year old 
and Jordis - 1 year old 
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Posted By: sparkle
Date Posted: 22 October 2007 at 8:50pm
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OK, will have a go!!
I guess I'm just a bit nervous that I'll stuff the whole thing up!! ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 22 October 2007 at 8:51pm
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Yeah we also did dream feeding at 10.30pm until last week, he now sleeps from 7pm till 6am so no need.
We went through a stage of him feeding at 3-4ish and then thinking that 5.30am was playtime too, I found putting him in bed with me when he woke up was a good way of getting him to sleep that little bit longer, but it depends how you feel about co sleeping as to whether you would want to do that. He was waking even with a dream feed, but if I was you I would still give it a go, it can't hurt, just changing his routine might stop it from happening. ------------- 
 
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Posted By: aimeejoy
Date Posted: 22 October 2007 at 9:14pm
No harm in trying. Good luck  ------------- Aimee Hannah 22/10/05 Greer 11/02/08 |
Posted By: sparkle
Date Posted: 23 October 2007 at 1:11am
No joy, up at 12.45  ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: sparkle
Date Posted: 23 October 2007 at 5:14am
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And again at 2.50 and then again at 4.40!!!!
After just trying to fed, but mucking about for the majority of the time, he is now in his bed having a major melt down! Time to go back in.............. ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: MissCandice
Date Posted: 23 October 2007 at 8:00am
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do you have a dummy sparkle? maybe try the dream feed again, and if he wkes at 12 give him a dummy and see if it will settle him till 2am?
i dont dream feed.. i give kylah a bath at 7.30 feed at bout 7.45 and bed at 8pm she sleeps till 2 - 3am feed again wakes at 5.30 - 6ish give her dummy and she sleeps to 7.30am ------------- ~ Mummy to a beautiful girl ~ |
Posted By: MissCandice
Date Posted: 23 October 2007 at 8:01am
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Sparkle.. did you see what shell wrote in our august thread about getting babes to sleep through?? you should check it out.. ------------- ~ Mummy to a beautiful girl ~ |
Posted By: peanut butter
Date Posted: 23 October 2007 at 8:07am
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SParkle, you have the exact same routine I have with Tom. He is also starting to wake an hour or so after that 4am feed but I think it could be nappy change needed. The other thing I do is kick DH out of bed and get him to settle him as he doesnt smell of milk!
We tried a "dream feed" of sorts last night and fed him at 10pm because he needed a nappy change (was wearing the wrong nappy as we'd had a bad afternoon and bedtime was all mucked up). He woke up fully unfortunately but fell straight back asleep and woke at 2 and then 6.30 when he babbled away to himself happily. Give it another go. Tom can do weird things for no reason so I'm sure Coop can too 
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Posted By: MissCandice
Date Posted: 23 October 2007 at 8:14am
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I second giving it another go.. if its anything like my house, nothing ever works first time!
When kylah wakes at 7.30 she lies there for half an hour babbling and giggling to herself lmao its so cute ------------- ~ Mummy to a beautiful girl ~ |
Posted By: peanut butter
Date Posted: 23 October 2007 at 8:19am
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Its cute alright. Tom has a little panda that he talks to. He has just learnt the volume control on his voice too (but only uses full volume at the mo )
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Posted By: MissCandice
Date Posted: 23 October 2007 at 8:28am
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lol, kylah has this toy its called baby tad.. she LOVES it!! it plays night time music for 6mins and she falls asleep to it easy as..
Sorry sparkle for thread jacking.. ------------- ~ Mummy to a beautiful girl ~ |
Posted By: peanut butter
Date Posted: 23 October 2007 at 8:36am
I am the same! I used to worry that upsetting his routines would scar him for life or something equally drastic. Now I realise it will just upset my night for a day or 2. (yep, equally drastic). There you go...back on topic 
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sparkle wrote:Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 23 October 2007 at 8:49am
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Hey Sparkle sounds like you had a rough night, I third giving it another go, you changed his routine last night and it upset him but he will learn the new one.
Also like Kylah said try using a dummy or something other than food to settle him, when he woke at 12.45 I doubt it was from hunger and probably more from habit. A few suggestions for tonight. Did you wake him up at the dream feed? If so don't tonight, put him in a nappy combo that will last 12 hours, pick up softly and quietly and keep his room darkened, don't talk to him, there is no need to burp him, just feed and put back in bed. I could feed spencer with his eyes never opening. The rooting and sucking reflex does it all in their sleep. If you didn't wake him, try waking him up. My friends baby would never take a full feed whilst still asleep so she always wakes him up at 10.30 to feed him. Change his nappy first in a bright room, and if he falls asleep feeding wake him up until he has fed properly. I'm not sure what you do when he wakes at night, but I never change Spencers nappy unless there has been a poo explosion or other leakage, I feed him in his room in the dark (well enough light so that I don't stick the bottle in his eye socket) and put him straight back to bed, that way all though he has woken up for a feed he hasn't fully woken up and he settles himself back to sleep within 5 mins. If he wakes up and it is less than 4 hours since his last feed I never feed him (or only as a totally last resort). Better luck for tonight and remember it can take up to a week for them to adjust to a new routine (and then your 3 month growth spurt will hit) -------------
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Posted By: Nikki
Date Posted: 23 October 2007 at 9:01am
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I would give it another go too. We started doing a dream feed when Jake was sleeping from the 6pm feed til 2am thinking he would then re-set and do 8 hours from 10.30, no such luck! He only managed to go til about 3.30 for a while but its gradually extended to 5/6am. We don't wake him for the dream feed though, he sucks in his sleep. If you only try for a couple of nights he probably won't learn to expect it - after a few weeks though Jake woke for it a couple of times as he'd got used to feeding then.
I thought I was mad trying it at first too - cos I was going to sleep at 8.30ish then awake for 10mins at 2 then he slept til 7am --- but doing the dream feed I had to be awake til 9.30/10pm expressing for dh to do the feed then still up at 3-4am for 10mins and still up at 7am so I was actually worse off -- but now I think it was the best thing to do as it probably would have taken him longer to get to 6am without it and I couldn't go to bed at 8.30pm forever!  ------------- DS (5yrs) and DD (3yrs) |
Posted By: Nikki
Date Posted: 23 October 2007 at 9:04am
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PS - just saw cuppateas reply - I completely agree! ------------- DS (5yrs) and DD (3yrs) |
Posted By: ShellandBella
Date Posted: 23 October 2007 at 9:43am
You never know, it may just work for you...what works for one baby doesn't nesessarily means it won't work for another one...We tried the dream feed thing, but it never worked for us, Bella would still wake up later for another feed regardless of whether she got it or not, so we dropped it, and she's back to just waking once a night, but as I say, it may just work for you. There is no harm in trying these things... ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: sparkle
Date Posted: 23 October 2007 at 1:44pm
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Thanks for all the replys ladies.
I tried not to wake him last night. I kept the light off (which of course made it very hard to aim the boobie into his mouth!) and kept him wrapped etc. He is such a wriggler that I did have to re-wrap him when we'd finished. Although he didn't open his eyes, I don't think he was asleep thru out. He did re settle himself straight away though. I normally feed him out in the lounge in front of the heat pump (!!!) but was quite comfortable in his room so may well do that from now on. I'm going to give it some more tries over the next few days. ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 23 October 2007 at 1:47pm
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Cool, let us know how you get on -------------
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Posted By: sparkle
Date Posted: 24 October 2007 at 3:42am
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Well I didn't need to "dream" feed him tonight, as he woke and screamed the house down at 10.00 anyway!!!
Back down and up again at 3.00, so that was good. Back to bed now and I'm hoping he won't be up again till 6! ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 24 October 2007 at 6:43am
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Yeah 5 hours is great for a 2 month old, Spencer was still feeding 3 hourly at night at that age.
Heres hoping your still in bed. -------------
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Posted By: kebakat
Date Posted: 24 October 2007 at 8:40am
| That's a pretty good sleeping effort by him!! Hopefully he continues it and makes a habit out of it!! |
Posted By: sparkle
Date Posted: 24 October 2007 at 6:40pm
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He was up at 6.00, but that is pretty normal and I'm happy with that.
Cooper had an Osteo appt today, and he's always so relaxed after them. So tonight he didn't have his bath as he was falling asleep on the boob, straight to bed and he's drifted straight off already. I'm going to wake him again around ten and hopefully he'll go again till around 3.00. ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 24 October 2007 at 6:48pm
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Cool, Spencer sees a chiropractor and he's always pretty relaxed after that too.
Hope it goes well tonight and remember it can take a week for them to adjust to a new routine. -------------
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