progress report - putting baby down .....
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Topic: progress report - putting baby down .....
Posted By: Lib
Subject: progress report - putting baby down .....
Date Posted: 24 November 2005 at 9:35am
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Just wanted to give you guys an update on my query on getting my baby to sleep when hes awake.
I started pretty much straight away (about 2 weeks ago now I guess) and starting bathing Israel at night. I then gave him a bottle of expressed milk (usally his dad gives him this so they can spend some time together ) and put him to bed. For the first couple nights it was hard, I was sitting in the lounge listening to him and had to hold myself back from going to pick him up again. I was going in to cuddle him every 5 minutes and then started to stretch it out and by day 3 he was sound asleep within the first few minutes. He has been sleeping for a lot longer now too, we usually wake him up just before we are going to go to bed and give him another feed and for the first time in a very long time I had 8 hours sleep in a row the other day....woo hoo!!!  ------------- Lib |
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Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 24 November 2005 at 10:04am
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Yay for you!!!!!
It's great when you get a good night itme routine in, it makes you feel a bit more in control! ------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P |
Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 24 November 2005 at 12:15pm
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Oops, when I saw the topic I was a bit worried you were putting your baby down like the vet does to dogs. Hrmmm.. little worrying.
Anyway, glad it hasn't come to that yet and you are getting some sleep!
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Posted By: lenabeanz
Date Posted: 24 November 2005 at 1:54pm
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I thought the same and was kinda scared!! Shows how our minds are conditioned from the big bad world out there!!
Glad to hear things are alot better in your house now 
I find now if I sleep from 10pm - 7am I am the zombie the next day but if I sleep from 2am - 8am I am fine... Odd.. I've been conditioned to no sleep I think!! ------------- http://www.snugglepie.com"> 
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Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 24 November 2005 at 3:31pm
Lena, I'm hearing you!! I feel miles worse on the days when Jake has gone 6.30 - 6.30, than on the nites its up every 3 or 4 hours... weird ------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P |
Posted By: Xander&Harmony
Date Posted: 24 November 2005 at 3:38pm
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i actually thought the same thing Nikki pmsl ------------- BECS http://www.sparklee.com"> 
Angel Baby 10/07/09 (10wks4days) |
Posted By: HelenElla
Date Posted: 24 November 2005 at 5:59pm
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Libby how old is Israel? I'm wondering how soon is ok to try controled sleeping for it to work? |
Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 24 November 2005 at 10:02pm
| I heard that you should wait til about 6 weeks.....or was that three months?? |
Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 24 November 2005 at 10:08pm
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I think it is about 3 months, but then my lactation lady said 6 months (AS IF!!!!!)
We started the - as Nikki calls it- "operation taking back the control" controlled crying at around 6 weeks though, and had mixed results. I tried again when he was bit older (and more settled with feedings etc) maybe around 3 months with better luck. It took about 3 days and he got the idea. Still sometimes have poo-ey days, but thats normal with babies, I guess! ------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P |
Posted By: daikini
Date Posted: 25 November 2005 at 8:11am
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When I was in the sleep/eat unit with Kiya, the nurses told me it takes 3 days (or nights) to make a habit. From the time a baby is around 6 weeks old, for the rest of its life, this seems to apply.
Kiya was especially stubbon - it took 1.5 weeks before she got the idea! ------------- Becca, mum of 2 girls & 3 boys |
Posted By: newmum
Date Posted: 25 November 2005 at 8:21am
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OK - I think I am an awful mum because I basically did it right from the word go.... Whenever I put Joey down for a sleep if he cried or grizzled and I knew everything was fine I would just leave him for a while and he always fell asleep. I didn't know that it was a "method" I just thought it made sense for good habits for later. When Joey goes to sleep now he usually doesn't even cry because he knows the drill or if he cries he is asleep in under 5 minutes (USUALLY). ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 25 November 2005 at 9:47am
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Oooh, Ana - bad mum!! Nah ! I think whatever works for you is good. Books say one thing, nurss will say another. You know your baby best and if Joey was fine, so be it! I plan on doing something similar with B2 and seeing how it goes. If it doesn't work, I'll try something else, or try again later.
We were terrible with jake - one squeak and we'd run. |
Posted By: aimeejoy
Date Posted: 25 November 2005 at 12:37pm
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I'm with you Ana. Have always left Hannah to settle herself if I know everything is fine (she only 5 weeks old now!) and she is pretty good already. Not for everyone I guess but its worked for us. ------------- Aimee Hannah 22/10/05 Greer 11/02/08 |
Posted By: newmum
Date Posted: 25 November 2005 at 12:43pm
I'm glad to hear that because I felt bad reading that you aren't supposed to do it before 6 weeks! Noone told me that!!  ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 25 November 2005 at 1:22pm
| I hope you didn't feel bad reading my post as i wasn't entirely sure my information is correct. Just a guess! And as I said, every baby is different....unfortunatly no bloody instruction manual! |
Posted By: aimeejoy
Date Posted: 25 November 2005 at 1:23pm
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Me too!! I didnt realise that either and felt real bad til I read your post! ------------- Aimee Hannah 22/10/05 Greer 11/02/08 |
Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 25 November 2005 at 2:20pm
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Ana... I think it's great that you did that!
I think the controlled crying method is more to do with the crying that is a step past grizzling... you know how there is a change in the type of cry? Even now I don't let Hannah cry if she is doing (what I call) her "Crying Frenzy". She works herself up so much that there is no way she'd get to sleep. Anyway, sounds like Joey is doing very well so no harm done!
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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 25 November 2005 at 3:14pm
| yeah jake got like that last night. i went in to get him, snot running across his face...delightful! |
Posted By: Xander&Harmony
Date Posted: 25 November 2005 at 3:50pm
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wot was it with last night??/ Harmony went down at around 730ish and wkoe around 9 screaming her head off so tried a bottle,me bonjela and finally nurofen and me agian when she finally gave in and fell asleep again. ------------- BECS http://www.sparklee.com">
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Posted By: lenabeanz
Date Posted: 25 November 2005 at 4:43pm
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Arna did the same!! She went down at 7:30pm , woke up at 8:30pm and wouldnt go back down until 10pm. Woke again at 11 (I left her then) and THEN she was down all night... Full moon maybe? ------------- http://www.snugglepie.com">
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Posted By: HelenElla
Date Posted: 25 November 2005 at 5:03pm
| I decided we had to leave Miya as mean as I felt. Once Miya was bathed, fed, changed and burped I put her down and let her cry for 5mins then without turning lights on I just picked her up and held her for 5mins then put her down, we repeated this 3times and on the 3rd she only cried for a minute then slept til 330am. I knew there was nothing really wrong because as soon as I'd walk into the room she would stop crying. I asked my midwife about it today and she she as long as they aren't really screaming their head off and aren't left for more than 5mins then it's fine and even teaches then good habits. |
Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 25 November 2005 at 9:02pm
| I am beginning to hate daylight savings!! It must be even worse for the kids that can talk and say "but it's still daytime muuuuuuuummmmmmmmm." |
Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 25 November 2005 at 9:09pm
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yeah we have always done the same with ayja - we were the same as you lizzle - with Paris it was every squeak we'd be running in there going "why won't she sleep?" probably cos we kept getting her up and getting her overstimulated and overtired. duh us.
I think most mums know when their kid is doing the "i'm winding down to sleep" cry, and when they're doing the crying frenzy thing where you go in and they are redder than a tomato. It's so muc heasier with that sorta thing in place - i wish daycare could always pick up on it. I left Ayja with a bottle this afternoon - felt terrible leaving at lunch knowing i wouldn't be back till the end of the day. I hated it, once i got there it al seemed better again. this 3 weeks is gonna be hard for us i think. argh - had disagreement with mike cos he goes "how long you gona breastfeed for?" i said as long as poss why? now don't get me wrong he is fuly supportive of the breast is best thing, and me feeding ayja - but he said "i dunno, after a certain age it just seems a bit wrong... he said "when they can ask for it then they're too old" lol i laughed at him. he said it in a nice way not nasty like that horrible guy on the shorty website. i think he just remembers me saying about one of the babies i nannied for who would wait for mummy to come home from work at lunch time, take her hand, lead her to the chair and say "boobie" lololol. ------------- Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja 
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Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 25 November 2005 at 9:23pm
Ha ha! I always say to Jake do you want boobie? And then my inner monologue goes "duh, you stupid wench, thats gunna come back and bite you if u still feeding when hes old enuff to ask.." ------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P |
Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 25 November 2005 at 10:42pm
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lol Annie
I have a friend who's kid is two years old and throws the biggest tanty if her Mum doesn't 'put out'. I refuse to get to that point. |
Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 26 November 2005 at 8:23am
| Maybe Mike sees you getting tired by the breastfeeding and wants to let you know, subtly, that stopping would be okay with him. |
Posted By: Lib
Date Posted: 28 November 2005 at 5:00pm
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Sorry I havent replied to someone who asked me a question, we have had a huge week and it looks like you got the answer you needed. Israel is now 9 weeks but I started on the controlled crying thing at about 5 or 6 weeks. I am quite surprised he actually started on it so young cos he was quite early and "they" say prem babies do things from their due date which would only make him 4 weeks old now??? who knows....it WAS working but just yesterday he has started spewing when I feed him and whenever we pick him up he sounds like he is dry reaching or something? anyone know what this might be and what I can do about it? he is basically waking up every hour and until then he has been sleeping really well. currently screaming his head off right now so might go and give him a cuddle....
------------- Lib |
Posted By: Lib
Date Posted: 28 November 2005 at 5:06pm
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A bit more to mention to my question, Israel had a bottle of formula for the first time on Saturday night as I had a wedding and was worried I wasn't able to express enough for the whole night. since then he has been doing this kind of hiccpin / kinda burping thing and I think it is really hurting cos hes never been this grouchy??? has anyone else had this? ------------- Lib |
Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 28 November 2005 at 8:18pm
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Have you thought of reflux? jake got diagnosed with this at 5 weeks. did the spewey or retchy thing, screaming, arching his back. Took him to Dr twice in one day, and they ended up giving us baby gaviscon, which was great. All it is is the wee muscle at the top of thier tum hasn't finished developing, so lets milk spill back up, along with stomach acid, hence the "burn" and scream. I think thats right, how it works, any way. i would reccomend going to a Dr! Its worth sorting out!! ------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P |
Posted By: HelenElla
Date Posted: 29 November 2005 at 10:36am
| I found when I gave Chloe for the first time the same thing happped, she seemed to have a horrible stomach ache for about a week after only having a small amount of formula. I pretty much just cuddled her for the entire week. I found giving her a small amount of cooled boiled water helped she would throw up then be able to have a feed and keep it down. The Dr said that they have such weak stomaches that they came be easily upset. Next time I gave her formula I tried a different brand and she was fine. |
Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 29 November 2005 at 4:37pm
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Ayja hasx been interesting since being stuck on formula cold turkey for the last two days (may i just say, my body has not yet cottoned on to this and boy am i in excrutiating pain by the end of my 8.5 hr shift! worse than when my milk came in) her anppies have been sooo runny. but other than that - she always does the arch back thing too. used to bring up lots of burning smelling dribble etc when she was little, but doesn't any more. hard to try and pin things down sometimes to one reason in particular. ------------- Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja
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Posted By: Xander&Harmony
Date Posted: 29 November 2005 at 8:26pm
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I feel lucky and most whiom have gone from breast to bottle are prob gonna hate me (lol) but,with both kids I never got sore boobs from being full(one night with H tho i admit),I still give H a comfort suck ATM but my milk hasnt dried yet.I want to keep on brestfeding and bottle so am gonna get sum milk flow spray stuff to keep up my supply till i stop all together. It does sound like relux to me but yeah get a couple of opinions if u r not happy with wot ur dr.says ------------- BECS http://www.sparklee.com">
Angel Baby 10/07/09 (10wks4days) |
Posted By: bonjovi6
Date Posted: 02 December 2005 at 10:35am
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My girl has reflux and colic(arnt I lucky) She doesnt always spew but the acid still comes back up her throat. There is a special formula for babys with reflux, S26 for babys with reflux. You can find it at pak and save. It worked really well for my son but for Gypsy it hasnt helped all that much. I guess its just trial and error(lots of errors,lol)
As for the routine thing, my old plunket nurse I had with Shaun said it was really important to get them into a routine by the age of 6 weeks or I would have a really fussy baby. Well, with Shaun it worked but Gypsy is a very stubborn baby. We've still got 2 days before shes 6 weeks, heres hoping. ------------- http://www.snugglepie.com"> 
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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 02 December 2005 at 2:49pm
| to tell the truth, we didn't erally have Jake in much of a routine until about 3 months, and he's not really what I would call a fussy child at all. |
Posted By: Xander&Harmony
Date Posted: 02 December 2005 at 4:34pm
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yeah,Harmony never had a routine either and shes not fussy.I guess it depends on the baby???? ------------- BECS http://www.sparklee.com">
Angel Baby 10/07/09 (10wks4days) |
Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 02 December 2005 at 8:52pm
| Yeah, I'm going to try and get B2 into a routine as soon as possible. jake is always on-the-go, I need a break when he's sleeping!!!! |
Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 02 December 2005 at 9:01pm
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we didn't have a set routine as such - just a flexible one - you know, things follow the same pattern, but at whatever time they need to happen, just made sure we were consistent with Ayja instead of being all over the place like we were with Paris.. i think we had a few more tricks up our sleeve and knew what kinda worked.
I don't think either of our girls are fussy kids, they usually sleep wherever, eat whenever, all pretty ok, as long as we plan and take stuff for when paris decides shes hungry or thirsty/usually in the middle of a shop when we have nothing with us. lol ------------- Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja
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Posted By: bonjovi6
Date Posted: 07 December 2005 at 2:10pm
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The plunket nurse I had with shaun is now retired. She was of the old school. Back in her day, babys were (i guess you'd call it) made to get into a routine. We dont have Gypsy in a set routine, as such, but do try to make sure shes drinking enough and getting at least a couple of hours of sleep in between feeds. Gypsy has been doing much better the last couple of days, so I'm hoping she is over the hump. She even slept for 5 hours the other night so we are all feeling alot better now. She's even smiling. ------------- http://www.snugglepie.com">
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Posted By: Lib
Date Posted: 08 December 2005 at 8:31am
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Well I am very proud to say Israel has slept for 10 hours the last 3 nights - its fantastic. He is awake a lot more during the day but he is quite happy to lie awake in his bed and stare around the room.
I took him to the doctor last week regarding the reflux, she gave us gaviscon infant which has helped him a lot - he still throws up a bit but doesn't have the horrible liquid hiccups or pain in his tummy that he had last week. Only problem is he doesn't like the taste of it so he spits it back out - wee bugger!! ------------- Lib |
Posted By: bonjovi6
Date Posted: 08 December 2005 at 9:59am
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Thats Great news. Bet you feel better now Israel is sleeping that long. ------------- http://www.snugglepie.com">
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Posted By: Lib
Date Posted: 08 December 2005 at 4:26pm
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Yes!! its fantastic, I don't loose any sleep at all so its wonderful and makes me much more comfortable with the thought of going back to work next year.
------------- Lib |