Advice: starting a new business
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Topic: Advice: starting a new business
Posted By: Sarahcular
Subject: Advice: starting a new business
Date Posted: 08 November 2007 at 9:39pm
hello everyone.
Hope you're all well :)
I wanted to get some info.
I have always wanted to start my own business and after years of planning i am finally going to do it.
the problem is: the business is like no other (there is no existing like it) but it would go under a cafe/restaurant category.
so - lets say im opening up a cafe like business.
how do i go on about doing that?
i mean the money is not a problem but do i need to have a lawyer/license/accountant etc?
i have a big family and they will all help out with all kinds of job.
but i dont know how to go on about registering it etc.
so if any of u have a cafe or similar business running, any advice would be great and much much much appreciated!
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Posted By: Kels
Date Posted: 08 November 2007 at 9:44pm
Sorry I have no idea but I wanted to say best of luck and good on you for following your dream
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Busy mum to Miss 15yrs, Miss 10yrs and Master 4yrs
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Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 08 November 2007 at 9:49pm
Hi, I'm not totally sure about everything but I got my accountant to set my business up, get it registered for GST etc, but you can actually do it yourself if you are that way inclined. There is a government website you can search what businesses are registered (to check the name you want isn't already used) then just pay your money for yours. An accountant will be able to tell you how to best set it up though and is probably a good starting point. Don't know about licences etc, as its food you might have to apply for one.
Never had to see a lawyer.
It cost about $380 for the accountant to set it up and that included the fees for registering the business and he also checked my first months books to make sure I was accounting it correctly and showed me how to do my GST return online. (just to give you an indication of what an accountant would charge and what you should expect for it.)
You can claim the accountant fees back as well.
Hope that helps a little bit
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Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 08 November 2007 at 9:52pm
Oh and your trading name doesn't have to be the same as your business name. I.e Your business can be Sarahcular limited but you can trade as Jam sandwich.
You can also pay for or get your accountant to set up trademarking your tradename nationally and/or internationally.
Edited to add link to company set up website thingy.
http://www.companies.govt.nz/cms - link
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Posted By: emmapea
Date Posted: 08 November 2007 at 9:58pm
I dont really have any tips, but just wanted to say best of luck! I have kinda started my own business but havent got very far yet... hopefully some day soon!
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Posted By: ItchyFeet
Date Posted: 08 November 2007 at 10:03pm
You must register for GST if at any 12 month period you expect your turnover to be over $40000 (so probably not straight away), but that is any 12 month period including future predictions. The IRD has some great booklets that would help you in running a small business. My advice would also be to tuck away some of the money for tax, both GST and PAYE. I learned that the hard way, if you have it, you spend it. You can make payments via internet banking to the IRD as well, so try to put some aside rather than ending up with a huge tax bill. After the first tax year, you will be in the position of paying residual tax (based on your first year earning) as well as provisional tax, and it's just too hard if you haven't set the money aside.
Some IRD links for you http://www.ird.govt.nz/business-income-tax/expenses/homebus-exp/ - Home expenses http://www.ird.govt.nz/business-income-tax/paying-tax/prov-tax/ - Prov tax payments http://www.ird.govt.nz/yoursituation-bus/starting/ - Starting a business http://www.ird.govt.nz/yoursituation-bus/running/ - Running a business
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Posted By: Bombshell
Date Posted: 08 November 2007 at 10:09pm
you can set up a company online but your accountant who will do books etc can do it all too!
see a lawyer if you are getting into leasing etc...do not enter into one of those on your own...Im guessing youre not running it from home?
talk to your bank...they have business advisors etc
and Good luck!
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Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 08 November 2007 at 10:12pm
Oh yeah I didn't think about leasing etc....cos mine is from home.
Probably will need to see a lawyer.
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Posted By: arohanui
Date Posted: 09 November 2007 at 7:01am
We owned a cafe for a while, just wanted to warn you that it's flippin hard work!! We absolutely loved it, and were successful in that we were busy and improved it heaps from what it was before (made style/menu/layout changes etc) but day to day running we weren't able to take a lot of drawings. It was hard to pay our own personal bills cos we were putting so much back into the business. We made our coin when we sold it for a nice profit.
It was great fun and I wouldn't change the fact that we did it, but I wouldn't do it again in a hurry! I'm glad you have family etc who can help out with stuff cos you'll really need the support network. We found it hard, physical work - and working from early in the morning til about 6 at night, and in the beginning we worked every day til we could get reliable staff to cover.
As far as the actual business side of things went, DH set up all that. If you want to talk/email with him just PM me. What I do know is that we had a good accountant who helped us out with alot. And laywers - now you pay them a heck of a lot of money for not doing a heck of a lot. Some stuff you can actually get done through an accountant instead of a laywer, so if you can, do that.
Good luck!!
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Posted By: LizzyJ
Date Posted: 09 November 2007 at 9:41am
Where abouts are you, if you want PM me and i can recommend some good accountants (if you are anywhere from Christchurch to taranaki). I used to work with all the firms in my old role before becoming one myself. Definately go and talk to an accountant first, Also talk to your accountant about software to run the business accounts, if the accountancy firm runs MYOB then you may be best to get a MYOB cashbook that downloads directly from your bank account meaning all you have to do is say what that line was for and it prepares your GST etc, can save a lto of time and money, but yuor accountant will be able to recommend something.
Good luck
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Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 09 November 2007 at 8:49pm
You will probably need to apply for a health or food trading license, but I'm not sure where to go for one of those....
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Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 09 November 2007 at 9:22pm
We have our own business, I reccomend a good accountant, a good lawyer and a good filing sysetem!
------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P
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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 09 November 2007 at 10:43pm
busymum wrote:
You will probably need to apply for a health or food trading license, but I'm not sure where to go for one of those.... |
Local Council would be able to help with those. You would have to make sure that all your staff have the food safety unit standard to get a good rating.
------------- I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived!
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