Standing up in cot
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Topic: Standing up in cot
Posted By: FionaS
Subject: Standing up in cot
Date Posted: 11 November 2007 at 11:25am
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Sorry! I'm on a roll with my questions this week. Elle has JUST started to move around in her bed...yeap, for 14mths she stayed exactly where we placed her...bliss!
Take this morning for example... was was up for her usual 2hours then got all clingy and grizzling, rubbing the eyes and yawning. Put her down and she looked like she was dropping off. A few minutes later the chatting starts and 30mins later the wailing starts as she has got herself in a weird and wonderful postition (e.g. on all fours in her go-go bag) and can't lie back down. At this point the nap is over BUT we have a very tired little girl. If she does got to sleep, she seems to move into strange positions when in her dream sleep and then wakes up scared as she's stuck. I very much doubt it's time to drop a nap as she is shattered after 2 hours up first thing. I think the problem is that she get's up and gets stuck. I know this will pass but my quesiton is how long did it take for this stage to pass for you and did you do antything specific to help it along? I'm a lil' grumpy as I was meant to be at church with Elle and DH but as she didn't nap when she was first tired, I'm now stuck here while she sleeps. P.S Not really grumpy...just stomping and huffing a little :) ------------- Mummy to Gabrielle and Ashley |
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Posted By: Kels
Date Posted: 11 November 2007 at 2:12pm
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I went thru the same stage with Alize and he always had wedged his head into the top of his cot. He would go to sleep wailing and wimpering and of course when I saw him up in the corner I would try and move him and make him comfy BAD IDEA! They seem to by themselves realise/learn that getting themselves into these weird and uncomfy situations arent the best of sleeping in and do actually learn how to position themselves when going to sleep. Now Alize sleeps all over the place and I just let him be. It didtn take very long either, but be Aware that Elle could be getting herself into this position as she knows you will come. I say just go with it and she will wake up and not be scared when she gets used to waking in different positions. Goodluck and you are sooo lucky she hasnt moved around till now ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
Busy mum to Miss 15yrs, Miss 10yrs and Master 4yrs |
Posted By: FionaS
Date Posted: 11 November 2007 at 2:13pm
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She seems to go to sleep in one place but move in her sleep and wake up scared. It's now 2pm and she has only had 20mins sleep as everytime she drops off, she wakes up in some funny position. Boy she needs sleep! ------------- Mummy to Gabrielle and Ashley |
Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 11 November 2007 at 2:38pm
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Get a safe T Sleep. ------------- 
 
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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 11 November 2007 at 2:39pm
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The gremlins started that as soon as I took the safety sleeps away, and they still sleep in some weird and wonderful positions. Sleeping bags are a brilliant invention coz they'd never keep a blanket on!
I don't really have any stellar advice except to say yay, now Elle is definitely a toddler! -------------  Maya Grace (28/02/03)
 (02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: Kels
Date Posted: 11 November 2007 at 5:17pm
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I would just go with it Fiona as she will soon learn that when she wakes up she will be in a different position but still in her cot and getting a safe t sleep will just delay the envitable (sp?) as Emma said her gremlins did the same thing when theirs was taken off. It may take a few days for her to get used to waking in slightly weird positions but she will get used to it. As Emma said using the bags are great to keep them warm but I dont have one I dress Alize up warm. A few times he has travelled so much in his sleep he has woken up cold as he has walked himself out of his jammy pants lol ------------- http://lilypie.com">
Busy mum to Miss 15yrs, Miss 10yrs and Master 4yrs |
Posted By: AnnC
Date Posted: 11 November 2007 at 8:24pm
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Rhyley is the same as Alzie in that he is all over the cot when he goes to sleep.. sometimes it right at the bottom near the door others its up the top (and i mean right up the top you wouldn't think he could get any higher 9see attached picture) but I just leave him to it.
I found a safety sleep didn;t stop him as he wriggled out of it or got sideways and very uncomfortable it made it worse. So my advise is to go with it like kels said and leave her to it she will sort it out herself.. AH just part of growing up. ETA: forgot the photo... Rhyley is the same as Alzie in that he is all over the cot when he goes to sleep.. sometimes it right at the bottom near the door others its up the top (and i mean right up the top you wouldn't think he could get any higher 9see attached picture) but I just leave him to it. I found a safety sleep didn;t stop him as he wriggled out of it or got sideways and very uncomfortable it made it worse. So my advise is to go with it like kels said and leave her to it she will sort it out herself.. AH just part of growing up. ETA: Forgot the photo: 
------------- Ann 
Also Mum to Josh (15) and Brooke (10) |
Posted By: Kels
Date Posted: 11 November 2007 at 8:41pm
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Hahaha Ann that is exactly how Alize sleeps. i wonder if that is where they hide their cellphones and fall asleep txtn each other lol!!! Best of luck Fiona with your wee girl ------------- http://lilypie.com">
Busy mum to Miss 15yrs, Miss 10yrs and Master 4yrs |
Posted By: Two Blondinis
Date Posted: 11 November 2007 at 9:11pm
I agree! ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
 
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cuppatea wrote:Posted By: AnnC
Date Posted: 11 November 2007 at 9:14pm
oh I so disagree can you see in the photo - there is actually a safety sleep on the cot but hes NOT in it LOL (have taken it away now) If we were talking about a 5 month old I would agree but not at bubs age now. kels - yup cellphones must be ther some where  ------------- Ann
Also Mum to Josh (15) and Brooke (10) |
Posted By: Kels
Date Posted: 11 November 2007 at 9:20pm
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Safe t sleep will just delay the problem. ------------- http://lilypie.com">
Busy mum to Miss 15yrs, Miss 10yrs and Master 4yrs |
Posted By: scarecrowfarm
Date Posted: 11 November 2007 at 9:57pm
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At the parent and child show there was someone that was selling sheets that you zipped your child into. It was an alternative to a safety sleep and allowed your child to roll left and right but still kept them relatively centred in their cot. It looked like a great idea. I didn't buy one because I haven't needed it yet, but after reading this thread I'm wondering whether I should have. They were right near the coffeegroup stand. If you're interested I could probably find out the name of the business without too much trouble. ------------- Robyn www.scarecrowfarm.co.nz |
Posted By: Kels
Date Posted: 11 November 2007 at 10:02pm
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Zpping them into a sheet ------------- http://lilypie.com">
Busy mum to Miss 15yrs, Miss 10yrs and Master 4yrs |
Posted By: scarecrowfarm
Date Posted: 11 November 2007 at 10:05pm
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Yup pretty much. It was like a cross between a sleeping bag and a safety sleep. There were two layers to the sheet and I think there were little sleeves or something. Can't remember how it worked, but it wasn't as icky as it sounds, in fact it looked a whole lot more comfy than a safety sleep. ------------- Robyn www.scarecrowfarm.co.nz |
Posted By: Kels
Date Posted: 11 November 2007 at 10:17pm
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Oh that doesnt sound too bad once you put it like that. I find thou that using things to keep kids in place while asleep doesnt let them develop their own sense of movement and security when sleeping so if she was to get one for Elle then she would still go thru the same thing when trying to stop using a zip sheet to keep her in place. Im sure i HAVE seen posts on here where poeple have tried removing the likes of safe t sleeps and have had to put them back on b'cos the kids cant settle. JUst my opinion tho as I have older children and the likes of these fancy new things were never around then. ------------- http://lilypie.com">
Busy mum to Miss 15yrs, Miss 10yrs and Master 4yrs |
Posted By: scarecrowfarm
Date Posted: 11 November 2007 at 10:28pm
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Hmmm, I wonder if that sheet would have counteracted the problem then. They were still pretty mobile in that they could move left and right really easily, they just couldn't really stray from the centre part of the cot. It may have helped to get them used to sleeping in the centre of the bed given that they still had the ability to move around a bit. I'm starting to see the benefit of it more now.
The poor lady there demo-ing it. We were right near her on the coffeegroup stand and when I spoke to her on Friday afternoon she hadn't sold a single sheet set. Those stands at the Parent & Child Show are expensive so I think she was getting pretty discouraged. If I recall correctly they were around $80 at the show, so not cheap, but then neither are SafeT sleeps. ------------- Robyn www.scarecrowfarm.co.nz |
Posted By: AnnC
Date Posted: 11 November 2007 at 10:34pm
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the only child I used a safety sleep with was Rhyley and that was only because a friend of mine gave me hers - I would never of brought one. I did find it hard (or rather RHyley did) weaning off the safety sleep and probably won't use one if we had another. As with kels they weren't around when my other two were babies. ------------- Ann
Also Mum to Josh (15) and Brooke (10) |
Posted By: Two Blondinis
Date Posted: 12 November 2007 at 11:37am
Safety sleeps are ridiculously expensive! My MiL made us 2 from calico for less than the cost of 1 in the shops 
I saw those sheet zipper thingys and they look a good idea, but $80 is just too much I think for new parents and most on 1 income 
But I apparecite they have to cover their running costs etc ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: scarecrowfarm
Date Posted: 12 November 2007 at 12:14pm
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Yeah, I looked at the price and thought ouch too. ------------- Robyn www.scarecrowfarm.co.nz |
Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 12 November 2007 at 12:17pm
I love safety sleeps, IMO they were totally worth the $80 they cost me (I think I paid $120 for Maya's one, they were even more expensive back in the 'old days'  ) coz they gave me peace of mind, I got 7-8 months of good use out of them, and used one of them for Maya then a gremlin, and still got $45 each when I sold them.
But I do agree that Elle's a bit big for a safety sleep now... ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
(02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: FionaS
Date Posted: 12 November 2007 at 12:39pm
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Yeah, I'm just going to wait it out. Actually, Emma, let's start an "up for adoption thread"! I'll be the first to post! Teehee. ------------- Mummy to Gabrielle and Ashley |
Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 12 November 2007 at 1:53pm
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I'll throw in a couple of gremlins... ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
(02/01/06)
The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: FionaS
Date Posted: 12 November 2007 at 4:57pm
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Damn stage end now! My girl is very cranky without her sleep. This afternoons nap (usually 2 hours) has been 30mins. Argh!
------------- Mummy to Gabrielle and Ashley |
Posted By: Peace
Date Posted: 12 November 2007 at 9:08pm
Me and my friend have completely different kids so I will explain both the scenarios and what we did 
Olivia: Huge panic artist mother had her in a safety sleep from about 5 months due to her rolling around the cot, I didn't want her to bump her fontanel. She had always grizzled to sleep and when it came to the safety sleep needing to come off the bed (it was becoming a restraint rather than an enabler), we had to go through a weaning process of about 4 nights of hell and 2 weeks of general unsettledness. We hit fever pitch with going to sleep so I started putting her down with a bottle which hence forth solved all problems and she has been a kick arse sleeper ever since. Casey: Cruisy mother who never bothered with a safety sleep as it made her scream blue murder, usually let her grizzle to sleep as well. Casey hit 14 months and started staying awake in bed so all stimulation was taken down from the side of the cot. Things progressively got worse and she is at 20 months now and in a big bed with the door shut because she managed to start scaling the cot and just climbing out of bed. I personally think it is different kids and there is a lot of major factors that go along with that. Casey is getting closer to the 2 year age and is sleeping less and less and will just probably be one of those kids that gets enough sleep at night (she sleeps really well at night) than during the day. Olivia isn't the greatest sleeper at night and usually loves going to bed to have a bottle, she will probably carry on her naps for a while yet. My suggestion would be to see if you can keep her moving for a little bit longer, on top of her just being a type of kid, maybe she could be displaying signs of boredom. Olivia has needed a lot more stimulation when she dropped down to one sleep a day as well, this is when I bumped up activities like going to the playground and enrolling in coffee group for extra stimulation. I also stick to the same bed times, she is in bed by 7.30-8pm at night and sleeping for no more than 12hrs and 12-12.30pm in the afternoon and no longer than 2.5hrs for a nap. Sounds rather anal but it stops sleep cutting into other sleep and sticks to a routine that she is stuck in. A long ramble but I hope it helps some. ------------- DD1 May 2006 DD2 March 2011 DD3 August 2012 |
Posted By: Bombshell
Date Posted: 12 November 2007 at 9:36pm
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OMG have Alize and Rhyley been talking to Ella???? She sleeps like that too!!!
Id just make sure Gabrielle is warm enough Fiona and leave her to it? Has she got toys on her cot - Ella has and she amuises herself off to sleep with them...we hear her gurgling and chatting away to them then SILENCE! LOL! |
Posted By: Kels
Date Posted: 13 November 2007 at 6:38am
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Yep I think they have hahahaha, that exactly what Alize does, chattes to himself and his teddies then blissful silence. Of course I check on him and he is wedged himself up into he corner on his hand and kness or jammed his head up agaist the side of the cot cross ways lol ------------- http://lilypie.com">
Busy mum to Miss 15yrs, Miss 10yrs and Master 4yrs |
Posted By: FionaS
Date Posted: 13 November 2007 at 11:36am
Thanks guys. The thing is she is moving into these positions in her sleep. She doesn't move about at all before falling to sleep. Thankfully she LOVES bedtime and never says a word about it...just silence or happy chatting :) I emailed Louise at the sleep store as I wasn't sure whether to keep her in her go-go bag (as she gets in a tangle) or move her out of it until the stage passes but she said it is a phase, related to the brain practicing various milestones during the dream phase of sleep and hence will pass.
 ------------- Mummy to Gabrielle and Ashley |
Posted By: FionaS
Date Posted: 13 November 2007 at 6:34pm
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We have the most hideously over tired baby here after a day of very little nap time. Any tips for teaching kids how to sit down (from standing) and lie down (from sitting)? She will get night terrors tonight and is soooooooooooooo beside herself as she is so tired. ------------- Mummy to Gabrielle and Ashley |