Deciding factor on leaving early?
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Topic: Deciding factor on leaving early?
Posted By: Paws
Subject: Deciding factor on leaving early?
Date Posted: 04 December 2007 at 8:27am
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This is so sad....I wonder if it would have been different had thier options been clear and they had stayed.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/4310851a10.html - News article ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 04 December 2007 at 9:25am
That is sad. I can't believe the midwife told them they could go home, she should have been telling them to stay there. I know it might not have been avoidable but it seems pretty shocking that a midwife would tell a first time mum with not much support that she could go home after 5 hours, with no clue how to breastfeed etc and that no doc had checked the baby. A poor show on her part and the hospital, is a complete cop out to say that they weren't told to go home. ------------- 
 
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Posted By: Jennz
Date Posted: 04 December 2007 at 9:53am
Aw thats so awful- those poor parents!  One thing that will make it so hard is the wondering if things would be different if they had of stayed. I know that they are encouraging people to leave early but surely they should be telling first timers to stay at least one night? Especially since she had no support at home. ------------- Jen, Charlotte 7 & Kate 3 
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Posted By: yummymummy
Date Posted: 04 December 2007 at 1:41pm
So so sad. I would be so angry at the hospital and midwife if it was me. 
I do wonder about them saying they did not know they could stay - we covered that at ante-natal classes and were told our options. ------------- http://lilypie.com">  http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 04 December 2007 at 2:51pm
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There was "no way" she would have discharged the family if she thought the woman was not well enough to leave.
but what about the baby...it hadnt even learned to latch on properly??? and that goes against the breastfeeding code supposedly implemented in all hospitals... I believe as first time mothers it is our responsibility to ensure we have all the knowledge we need, but sleep deprivation and pain and trauma are not conditions under which to make a decision. it makes me wonder abut the birth plan - was it not discussed then where the mother would stay after the birth? or what support etc...?? Very sad indeed  ------------- http://www.myfitnesspal.com/weight-loss-ticker"> 
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Posted By: busymum
Date Posted: 04 December 2007 at 8:26pm
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This is such a weird story. There must have been something already wrong for a baby to die within 24 hours of discharge from the hospital!?!? -------------  |
Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 04 December 2007 at 8:38pm
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This really upset me. When I had Josh the hospital staff were trying to push me out on Thursday (had him Wednesday evening) but I stood my ground and would not leave until Friday as Josh needed his hips checked and I needed to establish BF. On Thursday night they brought another woman into my room to share and she was having major bleeding issues and couldn't latch her baby onto the breast yet was more than happy to leave just after I left as they told her she would be ok. I couldn't believe that they had pushed her out so easily. If I could of gotten a moment with her I would of told her to tell them where to go as she clearly didn't want to but couldn't stand up to the hospital staff. ------------- I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived! |
Posted By: Bombshell
Date Posted: 04 December 2007 at 9:02pm
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Im sorry but I wont be making my mind up until i hear whaa the baby passed from...
auckland discharges within 12 hours...and you can go home, or to birthcare type places etc and noone follows up that night - i know someone who took newborn straight to a new years eve party!!! arrived at birthcare the next day!!! as for feeding issues - my goodness this poor mum is being made to feel horrible....there are plenty of mums on here who arent coping with feeding, or have bubbas who dont latch on weeks after birth... I think we will hear bubba had something wrong with it that wasnt clear....and i hope they lay off the mum and tell her there was nothing she could have done to change it.... |
Posted By: Bubbaloo
Date Posted: 04 December 2007 at 9:08pm
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This is a really sad story and I fell awful for the family involved.
I really hope someone sorts out the system soon as trying to push the women and babies out so soon is not acceptable being first or second time mothers. ------------- http://lilypie.com" rel="nofollow">  Was danni-chick Mum to James My Angel 28/07/08 |
Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 04 December 2007 at 9:11pm
wrong... this is taken directly from the pamphlet i received from them ... "If you have had a normal vaginal delivery you will transfer to birthcare within 3 hours after the birth of your baby. if you or your baby are unwell then you will stay at NW for your postnatal care." ------------- http://www.myfitnesspal.com/weight-loss-ticker">
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Bombshell wrote:Posted By: jaz
Date Posted: 04 December 2007 at 9:37pm
That was my major decider in choosing to birth at Birthcare - not that I made it to Birthcare.  ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: Rachael21
Date Posted: 04 December 2007 at 10:13pm
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It is really sad but I'm not going to make any judgements until we hear how the baby died.
I will say I don't think its particularly the midwife or hospitals fault, I mean there are only so many beds and midwifes so someone obviously is going to be missing out on a bed. What needs to happen is more midwifes get trained up, more jobs for them at the hospitals and more beds for the women. I feel like midwifes always get blamed when they are doing the best the can with a ridiculous case load and minimal pay. |
Posted By: Paws
Date Posted: 05 December 2007 at 6:44am
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I definetly don't entirely blame the midwife...I'll be interested to see what the autopsy results are too. I'm wondering if it is an education issue as in did they even attend ante-natal classes and therefore know thier options?
I don't think they should have been let to go though if it was know breastfeeding wasn't established. That worries me. ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: james
Date Posted: 05 December 2007 at 7:23am
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what aload of bull the hospital are blaming the midwife the midwife is told to push people out after the brith and the pernets are left with a dead baby in the end these poor perents good on them for specking out is this the same hospital that was offering shopping vources if they left early argghhh relly. yes they baby may have died anyway even if they had stayed but at least they would of been in the best place to get help if they needed it. its not the fact what the baby deid off its the fact that they were pushed out not given the surport by the people in the know and are fogged off and blame is placed on the midwife/parents and not the hospital whos job it is to provide beds for the mums and bubs arrghhhhh ok relly angery ------------- <a href="http://lilypie.com"><img src="http://b4.lilypie.com/nLJ5p13.png" alt="Lilypie 4th Birthday Ticker" border="0" /></a> |
Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 05 December 2007 at 7:55am
| my midwife didn't want me to leave so early with both boys but only did as she knew I had a lot of support at home and made me promise to ring her if I was concerned about feeding - and then "popped" in that day to see how I was . |
Posted By: emz
Date Posted: 05 December 2007 at 10:16am
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Regardless of what the baby died of, no first time mother should be given the OK to leave so soon after giving birth. She should have been transferred to another unit or made to stay. Unfortunately it's a really horrible situation but hopefully it means they will get extra funding to cope with the workload and lack of bed space.
In Chch you get kicked out within 3 hours too, but you are given the option of which primary care facility you wish to transfer to for the following 48 hours. The midwife should have arranged that for her early in the pregnancy and should have followed it up after the birth. So I do blame the midwife partly because it is her duty to look after both mother and baby throughout the pregnancy, birth, and 6 weeks after. |
Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 05 December 2007 at 10:46am
That's if you have a normal delivery with no complications. You can transfer anytime up to 24 hours after delivery, and they will extend that to 36 hours for women who have had a c-sect but wish to transfer. ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
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Posted By: 11111
Date Posted: 05 December 2007 at 11:28am
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See here in New plymouth we don't get the option of any where else unless you are willing to go all the way out to Stratford. I would love to see more primary care unit's opened around the country that would take the pressure off the hospital's and mean the ladies that really need medical attention get's it. While other Mum's are still provided with the support all mum's need at the start. ------------- Deborah Mum to:   
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Posted By: peanut butter
Date Posted: 05 December 2007 at 11:56am
OMG, In christchurch they ring and let the birthing unit know you are on your way and to expect you. Mind you I have heard of people getting lost enroute. I was so lucky to have complications and stay on at CWH. When I asked my MW about the bed shortage CHCH had she said "there is always a bed". I agree, that maybe it is an education thing...knowing your rights etc. I said just the other day that it will take a baby dying to sort this maternity mess out. We need more funding. |
Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 05 December 2007 at 8:08pm
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Auckland has been really busy lately, when my friend was induced a few weeks ago her induction was postponed coz the delivery unit was full and the day she actually delivered it was full as well. They manage by postponing inductions, and where neccessary keeping labouring women in the assessment unit until they are ready to deliver, and then transferring to a ward/Birthcare as quickly as possible after delivery. You can transfer to a ward first and then to Birthcare later in some circumstances. ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
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Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: jaz
Date Posted: 05 December 2007 at 9:39pm
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There is a huge baby boom on this year that has probably caught a lot of 'bodies' out - midwife shortage, budgets exceeded, shortage of beds, delaying inductions/elective caesarians ... ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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