your village?
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Topic: your village?
Posted By: Bizzy
Subject: your village?
Date Posted: 15 December 2007 at 9:18am
This is a quote taken from another post...i hope you dont mind me pinching it...
Jennz wrote:
It takes a village to raise a child
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It is one of my favourite sayings but it always brings to mind my mother saying how different parenting is now to when she had young kids. She said you could always count on your neighbour to pop over and invite you for coffee when she knew you were having it hard and you always returned the favour. I remember our aunty pat, not really an aunty but a neighbour, and her and mum going out together or just hanging at home over coffee while us kids played with her kids...
Nowdays lots of mums work part or full time and the kids are in daycare of some sort, or we just dont know our neighbours that well and dont make an effort to get to know them...
Families are also more scattered nowadys too, or just not as close.
Which brings me back to the quote and makes me wonder where do we find our village nowadays to help us raise our children???
What do you consider "your village?"
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Posted By: 11111
Date Posted: 15 December 2007 at 9:27am
I love this I consider mnie my church the people there are so loving and caring. In saying I don't just trust anyone there or anything silly, but I guees that is where my most of my kids friend's are so we have most of our play dates with them. Now Alan i goign ot be going to kindy I guess it will grow my village if that make's scence.
Awsome topic tho chick.
------------- Deborah Mum to:
 
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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 15 December 2007 at 9:31am
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i guess mine would definitely be my family. the kids go to my grandmothers and mums on a regular basis. In gissy would have also been my playcentre mums, but as I'm wokring, we don';t have that here. It is sad. I was invited yesterday to the daycare xmas party and realised sadly tyhat i don't know who Jake plays with at daycare, and that he has a side of his life I don't know about. I think i will make a bit more of an effort. Jake saw his friend Neo in the supermarket. They were so excited to see each other, buyt Neo's mum and me don't know each other at all. that is sad.
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Posted By: Bombshell
Date Posted: 15 December 2007 at 9:32am
we live extended family anyways - and i was raised in one also with my great aunty living with us for 17 years (so always 3 generations in the house) and also with mums penpal (since she was 11) in USA coming over for 6 months every 2 years and we refer to her as my "Aunty", we knew her family as ours, her parents were my grandparents in my mind.... and still do refer to them as my american family to this day. She then adopted a chld from india further expanding our "village" and outlook. We grew up with mums boss (20 plus years ago) and his wife who had no family here calling us their family - which raised some eyebrows as they were "hongkonese" (family joke!) - they called my grandma theirs, and we called their Goopaw (great aunt) ours too....talk about a mix up trying to explain to people!!!
Then we have my best friend who is cambodian, who dotes on ella (and is teaching her cambodian and only speaks to her in cambodian on purpose!), friends here and overseas who have been friends for years and are closer than family at times and their kiddies, as well as friends who spoil Ella rotten.
Ella will know so many aunties and uncles - am an old fashioned and she will be raised to call adults aunty and uncle - even those off OB (Aunty Emma and Aunty KAtherine etc!!!) as well as family....
our "village" is already around to help raise Ella....I dont pretend to be able to do it on my own....theres always her mum and dad for her...and then there will be all of the village people!!!
we have a wide world ethnic village around us....
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Posted By: 11111
Date Posted: 15 December 2007 at 9:40am
Bombshell wrote:
Ella will know so many aunties and uncles - am an old fashioned and she will be raised to call adults aunty and uncle - even those off OB (Aunty Emma and Aunty KAtherine etc!!!) as well as family....
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I am the same with that one my kid's have so many aunty's and uncles and 99 percent are no relation at all.
------------- Deborah Mum to:
 
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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 15 December 2007 at 9:53am
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we have aunty and uncle as well. at playcentre they encourage kids to just call adults by their first name and it actually made me a bit uncomfortable
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Posted By: Jennz
Date Posted: 15 December 2007 at 9:56am
I am a complete hypocrite! I have no village at all- I have a few friends over here but no one I can really talk to. I have phone relationships with all of my real support people. It sucks and it has been a real toss up for us being over here- money and security vs family and support I think I have been really lucky to avoid PND with how isolated I am over here- if I was at all susceptible then this situation would definitely trigger it.
One thing I am really really looking forward to when we come back is having family a relativley short flight away, but mainly that we can really start to build some long term relationships. Thats one thing I find really hard is knowing we'll be leaving so always holding back a bit and having this feeling of unsettledness.
------------- Jen, Charlotte 7 & Kate 3
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Posted By: 11111
Date Posted: 15 December 2007 at 10:13am
lizzle wrote:
we have aunty and uncle as well. at playcentre they encourage kids to just call adults by their first name and it actually made me a bit uncomfortable |
That would just annoy me casue when kid's go to school they have to use Miss/ Mrs etch so why not had pre school although I noticed Kindy they use first name's. I not like that at all.
------------- Deborah Mum to:
 
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Posted By: Mazzy
Date Posted: 15 December 2007 at 10:44am
I wish we had a village! DH and I talk about this often, as both of us were brought up with lots of contact with extended family, grandparents around all the time, aunties and uncles and friends. That just doesn't seem to happen now. Our parents are still too busy living their lives and don't want to be tied down looking after DD and most of our friends are still single and living the good life. I think we are slowly building our village, with new friends from antenatal class and old friends who now have kids and we are buliding new friendships with them, but everyone is so busy (including us) that it seems like such an intrusion to ask them for anything, although I know most wouldn't mind.
I've learnt not to expect anything from anyone, then you're not disappointed.
I do think that those with strong church communities have more of a 'village' than those who don't, which seems lovely! Not a good enough reason to take up a faith though!
------------- Mum to two gorgeous girls!
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Posted By: aimeejoy
Date Posted: 15 December 2007 at 11:02am
Mazzy I feel we are in the same situation as you. I dont like to call on my parents too much as they all work and have their own busy lives, even tho I know they wouldnt mind. And I have a few friends with kids but not enough to just ring up and say I'm having a bad day, can I drop Hannah off for a few hours.
Its quite sad isnt it. Might start work on building a village... All our neighbours are elderly so we dont have too much to do with them, but I like to think they would call us if they needed us, like when one of the nieighbours husbands had a fall and she couldnt get him up.
------------- Aimee
Hannah 22/10/05
Greer 11/02/08
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Posted By: daikini
Date Posted: 15 December 2007 at 11:05am
loadsofkids wrote:
Bombshell wrote:
Ella will know so many aunties and uncles - am an old fashioned and she will be raised to call adults aunty and uncle - even those off OB (Aunty Emma and Aunty KAtherine etc!!!) as well as family.... |
I am the same with that one my kid's have so many aunty's and uncles and 99 percent are no relation at all. |
I was the same, with Kiya being raised to call my friends Aunty and Uncle (in fact, DH was Uncle Nat right up until our wedding)... we are just now putting a stop to it, and encouraging Kiya to call them by first names only - because our friends have taken it too far, and 3 in particular refer to our children as their "niece and nephews" to others. On a visit to the house of 2 of our friends (my best friend for many years and her husband) we noticed there were more photos up of our children than there were of his sister's children!
Our "village" is currently changing due to our shift. We are establishing new relationships... settling into a church... Nat is figuring out which of his workmates live in this area... I'm getting to know the parents of Kiya's classmates, Josiah will probably start kindy at the start of next year and that will mean a new set of interactions... I'm hoping to get into a Mainly Music group just down the road next year...
When your family is in a different part of the country it is really hard to know who to reach out to.
------------- Becca, mum of 2 girls & 3 boys
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Posted By: 11111
Date Posted: 15 December 2007 at 11:50am
daikini wrote:
When your family is in a different part of the country it is really hard to know who to reach out to. |
I don't have any family to call on even they did live in the same town or country for that matter that why I find my church is so important. In saying that tho there is really only 3 ladies in our church that I would feel like i could really call on if I needed help and one of those is so busy I think I would feel really bad. Thank's for your take on the aunty thing I never thought of that so I think I might be a little more careful who they call aunty and uncle.
Hope you get into mainly music Becca we love our's so much it is almost the high light of our week someday's.
------------- Deborah Mum to:
 
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Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 15 December 2007 at 12:32pm
OhBaby/TNN are my village
Andddd IRL my village is basically my family and my friend Niamh. I sooo couldn't do without her! (or them) To a lesser extent my neighbour is also included... we were just over there this morning to play with her two kiddos and I feel she keeps an eye on me Just the other day she left a $20 fuel voucher in my mailbox as she'd got it as "payment" for volunteering at her son's school gala... she thought that I might need it more than her. She's so sweet. I luff her.
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Posted By: 11111
Date Posted: 15 December 2007 at 12:38pm
Sound like you have an awsome friend there nikkiy
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Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 15 December 2007 at 12:51pm
Oops, that was my neighbour I was talking about. If I rattled off all the help that Niamh gives me then I'd be here for days!!! (I owe her big time!!)
But yes, they are all awesome.
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Posted By: miss
Date Posted: 15 December 2007 at 2:14pm
My village is my inlaws, my friends and my special coffee group of people off EBB. I think I could lean on any of those people if I needed to and to different levels they are part of Lily's life. Then I have the people on EBB and Ohbaby as well, I think that when ever people ask for help on these palces people answer it and I like that, it makes me feel safe.
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Posted By: james
Date Posted: 15 December 2007 at 2:38pm
mine is my family/frends which james calls auntys hes very close with all these people and i know i can call them and they are thee to help which i love we have my mum and dad who are nanny and grandad man i,m one lucky mummy
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Posted By: Glow
Date Posted: 15 December 2007 at 3:35pm
When Brae was a baby we lived in a real village with a population of 42 & quadrupled between 9=5pm
Since moving into the big smoke my "village" now consists of mainly friends, my neighbours, brother, grandmother & IL's.
------------- Mummy of Two Boys B: 2004 K: 2007
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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 15 December 2007 at 3:38pm
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Mine is my extending family now and Puddleducks. They have had Andrew since he was 5 months old and it's like a second home to him. I consider OB my village I have learnt so much and still continue to learn from you all.
------------- I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived!
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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 15 December 2007 at 6:49pm
My friends are my village. I have really learnt that over the past few months when times have been a bit hard, kids have been sick, I've been sick, my friends have made sure we had a decent meal on the table, visited me in hospital, brought food to me in hospital, even ordered a nanny in an emergency when I was too sick to get out of bed. I have no family in Auckland, so my friends are like my family.
And most of them I met on here or have a presence here. So thanks guys, you rock, I couldn't survive without you.
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Posted By: caliandjack
Date Posted: 15 December 2007 at 7:11pm
It would be here on OHBaby.
I guess our children will be part of the global village.
With friends and family in all parts of the country and across the world.
Exciting times for modern day mums and bubs.
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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 15 December 2007 at 7:16pm
fleury wrote:
I guess our children will be part of the global village.
With friends and family in all parts of the country and across the world.
Exciting times for modern day mums and bubs. |
Absolutely! I got an email from a friend in Sydney yesterday wanting to catch up next weekend when we are there. I only see her about twice a year, but our kids just click and I consider her one of my best friends. And Maya loves having friends all the way in Australia!
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Posted By: mum2emj
Date Posted: 16 December 2007 at 10:33am
to be honest i feel i have a very small village im not one to find it easy to ask for help, i have my family very close in the area no more than 7 mins to all my close family members (parents, sister etc..) yet i find myself feeling alone more often than not, have little support the times i do reach out for help or something.
most of my friends moved away at the end of school on to uni etc.. scattered around the country- i married at 19 and again the friends i had left around were still into the single scene and we kinda drifted apart.
i have found it really hard trying to get out and meet other mums as my life revolves around my kids and i feel i have nothing to offer anyone (im boring! have such low self esteem) there are a few other parents which i chat too at school, kindy etc... and online thats why i love ohbaby there is such a great support network and high chance that someone out there has been through or is going through what you are, is similair to you in personality etc..
it's just hard knowing that you cant just get in the car and go and see your friends whenever you want.
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Posted By: Bombshell
Date Posted: 16 December 2007 at 11:20am
mum2emj how about we become a temporary village for you when we come down to nelson next year for a weekend....
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Posted By: FionaS
Date Posted: 16 December 2007 at 11:23am
My village is my family (albeit a VERY small family), church and some friends. However, I really really struggle to admit weakness and ask for help. I'm slowly (very slowly) learning that I have to put my pride aside and reach out to those who are there to help. I am very very independent and like to be seen to be able to cope with absolutely anything all on my own (this is not a good thing!). I find that if you sit back and don't actively accept offers of help or reach out when you need help, you can end up very isolated but it is unnecessary as there is almost always someone who would LOVE to help. I think sometimes we worry that others will judge us or look down on us if we admit weakness but in reality many people don't.
The village IS there but it is not like it used to be and it takes strength and effort to be part of a village.
------------- Mummy to Gabrielle and Ashley
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Posted By: Mazzy
Date Posted: 16 December 2007 at 11:38am
nikkiwhyte wrote:
OhBaby/TNN are my village
Andddd IRL my village is basically my family and my friend Niamh. |
Ok, random off shoot here, but Nikki I LOVE the name Niamh, am trying to convince DH that it is the perfect name for bubs if it's a girl, but he's balking at the spelling. I hardly see it anywhere, hence the excitement when I saw your post.
Sorry. Threadjack.
Fiona, I think you're right too - I would probably find more of a village if I put myself out there more often. Might have to try it and see what happens.
------------- Mum to two gorgeous girls!
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Posted By: BabyOnBoard
Date Posted: 16 December 2007 at 12:59pm
I don't really have a village. . All my friends are off at uni and a lot haven't kept contact, and the ones that do keep contact (bar one friend who is great when shes down from auks) just come and play with Arabella then leave.
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Posted By: Bombshell
Date Posted: 16 December 2007 at 2:19pm
LOL Jess I just realised you are back in auckland...fogood or temp?
and while threadjacking...LOL sorry! I am sure there are a few different spellings for niamh (and what about Neve?)
-threadjack over.....
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Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 16 December 2007 at 2:23pm
I just said in a PM to Mazzy that I even get asked a trillion times how to spell Nikki... atleast with Niamh you'd have a good reason to have to spell it out! hehe
Right. Threadjack over from me too.
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Posted By: 11111
Date Posted: 16 December 2007 at 4:23pm
mum2emj wrote:
to be honest i feel i have a very small village im not one to find it easy to ask for help, i have my family very close in the area no more than 7 mins to all my close family members (parents, sister etc..) yet i find myself feeling alone more often than not, have little support the times i do reach out for help or something.
most of my friends moved away at the end of school on to uni etc.. scattered around the country- i married at 19 and again the friends i had left around were still into the single scene and we kinda drifted apart.
i have found it really hard trying to get out and meet other mums as my life revolves around my kids and i feel i have nothing to offer anyone (im boring! have such low self esteem) there are a few other parents which i chat too at school, kindy etc... and online thats why i love ohbaby there is such a great support network and high chance that someone out there has been through or is going through what you are, is similair to you in personality etc..
it's just hard knowing that you cant just get in the car and go and see your friends whenever you want.
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Oh rach sorry, but i have to post this publc.YOU ARE A GREAT PERSON WITH HEAP'S TO OFFER. I have loved getting to know you over the time we were Preggy together. If I am aloud i do cinsider you one of my close friend's even if we do live in differnt island's. All I can say is move here to NP.
Please take care of your self and no more put down's.
------------- Deborah Mum to:
 
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Posted By: aimeejoy
Date Posted: 16 December 2007 at 4:55pm
Awww, feeling the OB love again... And Debs right Rach, you are so not boring and have heaps to offer. But I also know how you feel. Maybe we all just need to be the ones to take the first step/make an effort.
------------- Aimee
Hannah 22/10/05
Greer 11/02/08
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Posted By: 11111
Date Posted: 16 December 2007 at 5:00pm
Aimee I thin kthat is it I use to shy away and think no one would like me etc, but when i moved town's cause no one knew me I felt like i could be me without worrying. So I got out of my comfot zone and took the first step it can be hard but so worth it.
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Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 16 December 2007 at 7:02pm
And OhBaby commune anyone??
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Posted By: Mazzy
Date Posted: 16 December 2007 at 8:42pm
Hasn't this been suggested before? I'M IN!! As long as I can go all hippy barefoot and not shave my pits.
Who posted that hippy thread a few days ago? (my memory is shocking) They'll be in too, surely!
------------- Mum to two gorgeous girls!
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Posted By: Kellz
Date Posted: 16 December 2007 at 8:48pm
Lol Mazzy,....Im sorry but Im so not growing my underarm hair for ANYONE! As much as I love Ohbby! Lol!
*Thread jack* -After having to continually correct people who pronounce and/or spell Isla's name wrong, I am gonna choose a name like,..Kelly *IF* we have another baby! Lol! A ctually I lie,...we have chosen a name if its a girl, and we are gonna have the same prob again! He he! Go the unusal names!
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Posted By: Mazzy
Date Posted: 16 December 2007 at 9:00pm
Yeah Kellz, I hear you on the name thing! But I figure it'll at least be a conversation topic for them later in life Still not settled on a boy's name yet for this bub, will have to look up some weirdo ones to keep people on their toes!
And the pit hair...yeah, I don't really think I could go 'european' either, DH would kill me! Barefoot I could handle.
------------- Mum to two gorgeous girls!
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Posted By: Katherine
Date Posted: 17 December 2007 at 9:06pm
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I love this question and I've been having a think about it, which is why I'm coming in a little behind everyone else with my answer (that, and the fact that it's just insane behind the scenes at OHbaby! lately with the holiday rush and our upcoming magazine being planned). Anyway, my village is not the village I expected I'd have around me when I was growing up. My mom's family in the US were the village to raised me, even though they all lived rather far away. I have so many memories of spending summers at my grandmother's and great-grandmother's homes (they lived next door to each other). I always had a very strong sense of family, and the women in my family are particularly amazing role models -- all of them are strong survivors and creators.
When Emma Rose was born, I decided that I needed to capture that same feeling of security, love and strong roots that I grew up with, but for her sake. My family is very far away so it's DH's family who are the "village elders", I suppose -- the people I want her to be close to and to look up to. His aunties and uncles are all opinionated, fun-loving, loyal people, and I've tried to make sure that Emma has a connection to each of them and sees them as often as possible. She's named after DH's great-grandma, who is still alive and kicking at 85 and who is also an amazing woman. Being 8500 miles away from my own family has shown me the importance of forging relationships with your child's relatives, no matter how insane they drive me (especially certain in-laws!).
There are other amazing women in my daughter's village, too. I think because I've always had such a strong sense of how important female role models are to us as women, I've made a point to make friends with and seek out the companionship of other strong women. I don't have very many friends here in New Zealand, even after nearly six years of living here, but those I do have are treasures who make such a positive impression on my life that I am grateful for their presence in my daughter's life as well. I think that my daughter's village will be different from the one that raised me in a crucial way -- I've chosen villagers who not only love and care for my daughter, they support me as a mother and as a woman.
I also have long-distance villagers back in the US -- my best friend there is Em's godmother, and my other friends (again, there are only a few, but they are "quality") have been involved in her life right from the start. One of my most treasured friends in the US just sent Em the most incredible Christmas present -- it is a pin that belonged to her grandmother, and on it is a verse in Hebrew: "Many daughters have done virtuously, but thou excellest them all" (Proverbs 31:29). My friend doesn't have any children, but for her to feel that Emma is important enough to want her to have this special piece of HER history means more to me than anything. That, to me, is what a village raising a child is all about -- people who include your child in their lives and don't just observe them from afar.
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