Oh to be a Celebrity!
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Topic: Oh to be a Celebrity!
Posted By: Lisha
Subject: Oh to be a Celebrity!
Date Posted: 21 December 2007 at 9:23am
I was reading on "Stuff", that J Lo is having a c-section as she doesn't want to go through the pain of childbirth! Get hard woman! I have done it twice with no pain relief, gees!
Then again, some woman aren't as tough as us kiwi chicks!
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Posted By: jack_&_charli
Date Posted: 21 December 2007 at 9:38am
seriously!!!
after c/s x2, i'd give my right arm to actually push out a bubba!! (no offence to c/s mums )
i've always thought she was a silly tart anyway i hope she realises it maybe harder for her to get back into shape after a c/s
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Posted By: my4beauties
Date Posted: 21 December 2007 at 9:43am
Yep I've been fortunate enough to push out my 3 babies. Would do that anyday over having a C/S, even with the horrid pain of contractions. The pain is all part of it. I don't know why celebs are scared of the pain - HELLO - there is PAIN RELIEF!
I wonder too if it's part of knowing what day their baby will arrive so they can fit it around their lifestyle.
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Posted By: Jennz
Date Posted: 21 December 2007 at 9:52am
Hmm natural process that woman have been doing for centuries or major abdominal surgery? I would say recovery from that kind of surgery is pretty darn painful anyway the silly mare. I reckon it has alot more to do with the lipo she'll be getting at the same time!
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Posted By: Lisha
Date Posted: 21 December 2007 at 9:53am
I suppose so, but as vanessa said, takes longer to recover, then again she will have nannies, personal trainers etc.... so won't lift a finger! ha ha
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Posted By: Lisha
Date Posted: 21 December 2007 at 9:58am
Heu Jennz, cold over in the UK?
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Posted By: Jennz
Date Posted: 21 December 2007 at 10:02am
Soooooo cold It was -5 when I drove to the park today. It was midday by the time we left and the windscreen had re-frozen over while the car was sitting in the sun! Thank goodness for central heating!
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Posted By: jack_&_charli
Date Posted: 21 December 2007 at 10:14am
oooooooo i'd love to have a white xmas, just once
how does j-lo know it will hurt anyway! my contractions weren't painful, not enough to need any sort of relief anyway....that said, i didn't get to experience the 'ring of fire' part though
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Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 21 December 2007 at 10:26am
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OMG I have had 2 natural births and while the second one hurt a bit I would still go through it again over the pain of recovering for abdominal surgery. I've only have minor abdo surgery and that still took time to recover.
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Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 21 December 2007 at 10:57am
I'm not defending her but isnt she having twins?(not that you can't do that naturally?:)
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Posted By: My3Sons
Date Posted: 21 December 2007 at 11:01am
Posted By: Paws
Date Posted: 21 December 2007 at 11:35am
So is Christina Aguleria (sp).
Honestly....wait until they experience the pain of a c-section!
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Posted By: AnnC
Date Posted: 21 December 2007 at 11:54am
I heard Christina was having a c sections too for that reason....
I can comment on both as I have had both... 2x VB and 1x C section and my choice would be a VB birth. Yep it hurts and contractions aren't exactly enjoyable but its the 'after the baby is out' part I like best with a VB birth.
But not to insult anyone I don't think either is better than the other in needing one just my preference if i had the choice.
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Posted By: ShellandBella
Date Posted: 21 December 2007 at 12:20pm
I think they do it so that they can 'plan' baby around their schedule - and afterall with a c-sec, they won't have to worry about going overdue or getting stretchmarks! Didn't the saying go, "too posh to push" hehe!! I had a c-sec and also would love to have a VB, c-sec isn't 'easier' by any stretch of the imagination. Oh to be a celebrity, eh?!!
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Posted By: Paws
Date Posted: 21 December 2007 at 1:01pm
Oooooooooooooo...the severe shakes from the spinal block... the morphine drip....the cathater (sp?)....the not being able to eat afterwards....the walking gingerly everwhere for a while....the 6 weeks of doing nothing...the attractive scar....if you're really lucky the infected wound...yeah, pure bliss. *snort*
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Posted By: Katherine
Date Posted: 21 December 2007 at 1:13pm
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Hmm, after my horrific birth experience (which has pretty much put me off having another child as I don't want to go through THAT again), I might vote for the C-section. My best friend in the US had a C-section with her first and a VBAC with her second baby, and says if she does it again, she'll go for the C-section. She and I have both had complications from tearing during the births -- it's been almost two years since my daughter's birth and I'm still "not quite right" down below. So I can sort of see J-Lo's side of things. Maybe if I hadn't been so focused on sucking it up and somehow thinking I was being a hero by giving birth vaginally, my birth experience could have been a positive one instead of so awful that I'm terrified to do it again. Food for thought...
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Posted By: Lisha
Date Posted: 21 December 2007 at 1:14pm
Haha!
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Posted By: Paws
Date Posted: 21 December 2007 at 1:24pm
Katherine wrote:
Hmm, after my horrific birth experience (which has pretty much put me off having another child as I don't want to go through THAT again), I might vote for the C-section. My best friend in the US had a C-section with her first and a VBAC with her second baby, and says if she does it again, she'll go for the C-section. She and I have both had complications from tearing during the births -- it's been almost two years since my daughter's birth and I'm still "not quite right" down below. So I can sort of see J-Lo's side of things. Maybe if I hadn't been so focused on sucking it up and somehow thinking I was being a hero by giving birth vaginally, my birth experience could have been a positive one instead of so awful that I'm terrified to do it again. Food for thought... |
To be honest though, while it is a valid point and I wouldn't blame either of you for picking a c-section, you both have experience to go off...for all those celebs know they could have a dream 3 hour labour and pop bubs out and leave the hospital 2 hours later....
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Posted By: peachy
Date Posted: 21 December 2007 at 1:47pm
Just a question but am I the only one that had a fantastic recovery from my c section and that was after a 27 hour labour with no drugs, then a failed ventouse, I was well keen for a c section when they told me I was up for one! I thought my c section was relatively easy and most people commented about how well I was so soon after and they were quite surprised?!
I went into pregnancy pretty fit though and with abs of steal (not that they are steal now, they are well covered being kept warm with a layer of FAT) maybe the tight abs helped my recovery??
I totally agree with Paws though that she could have a "dream" birth of only a couple of hours!
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Posted By: Katherine
Date Posted: 21 December 2007 at 1:55pm
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Sure, but how many women ACTUALLY get the three-hour labour, pop the baby out with no trouble at all, then hop into the car and go home feeling amazing? We all hope for the "perfect" labour and birth, but the vast majority of us don't get it. I think that's why women quite often feel the need to share their birth stories -- it's a form of therapy, reliving all those moments and working through their feelings about them in order to become okay with the trauma that childbirth can impart, even if it's just a comparatively "small" amount of trauma, like not getting an epidural because there wasn't time, or pooping while pushing, or being able to feel the stitches going in when you were getting your tear stitched up because the local wore off. The word "perfect" is subjective too -- for some women, a perfect birth is letting nature take its course, having no pain relief and breastfeeding immediately, while for other women a perfect birth is anything that makes the pain go away, and forget about dignity.
I remember at antenatal class feeling ashamed because I was the only pregnant woman out of the group of 10 who wanted an epidural, while everyone else envisioned water births, home births, and pain-relief-free birthing centre births. Guess what? I was the only person who didn't have pain relief during labour, while everyone else had varying forms of pain relief including epidurals, pethidine and even one C-section. What a silly cow I was -- I should have had the epidural in the parking lot like they did.
We want women to feel like they can talk about their choices with regards to birth, and if J-Lo was on this message board, I wonder what she would say? Would she try to defend her decision, or would she slink off in shame? I wonder if there are any other mums-to-be planning elective C-sections who are lurking in this thread, afraid to post because here they don't want to be called naive or wimpy or against nature? Those are the mums I'm trying to speak up for, because it's not just celebrities who choose C-sections for non-medical reasons.
I'm not trying to be your mother and wag my finger at you, because everyone likes a good old celebrity bash now and again, including me. But spare a thought for the other real people who are hanging around here wanting to join in -- we have to respect their opinions as well, whether we agree with their choices or not.
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Posted By: Lisha
Date Posted: 21 December 2007 at 2:01pm
Hmmm well I had a 2.5 hour labour!! And I wouldn't say it was a dream labour, was way too fast for me. Although, apart from having a wee bit of gas, I felt fine afterwards, and was transfered to another hospital about 4 hours later. And I am not even a celebrity, ok, was once when we fell in the river, and was on TV3 news! ha ha
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Posted By: Rachael21
Date Posted: 21 December 2007 at 2:05pm
and how do we even know she said that? She might have some sort of thing that is making her have a c section and someone just made up why.
I feel sorry for celebs they can't win either way like if she loses the weight fast she gets given sh*t but if she doesn't lose it fast enough everyone will say shes let herself go. I mean its her job to look good so why not have lipo while they are in there shes not harming her baby or anything.
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Posted By: Katherine
Date Posted: 21 December 2007 at 2:07pm
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I don't think I would want to be a celebrity anyway -- imagine your whole life splashed in the tabloids all the time. Bleah. I'd never be able to go to the supermarket in my track pants, let alone tell the world I'm having a C-section because I don't want to face the pain. I feel a bit bad for J-Lo -- all the flak she's going to get no matter what she does. I think it was Kate Winslet who admitted a few years back that she'd actually had a C-section with her first child's birth, although she had lied and told the public that she did it vaginally.
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Posted By: ShellandBella
Date Posted: 21 December 2007 at 2:14pm
Peachy, I recovered pretty quickly from my c-sec and everyone commented on how well I looked and I was out and walking the baby after 2 weeks! My labour experience was very much like yours, and I (did) have good abs, but well, lets just say, they will never be the same again !
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Posted By: Paws
Date Posted: 21 December 2007 at 2:17pm
peachy wrote:
Just a question but am I the only one that had a fantastic recovery from my c section and that was after a 27 hour labour with no drugs, then a failed ventouse, I was well keen for a c section when they told me I was up for one! I thought my c section was relatively easy and most people commented about how well I was so soon after and they were quite surprised?!
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In all reality I had a pretty good recovery too...but I still look at my friends who walked into the ward as opposed to being wheeled in on a bed and who left the hospital the next day...and I wish it was me. Compared to them a c-section was rotten.
Katherine...don't get me wrong, I'm all for them when they are necessary...but I just don't like the celebs who assume that a c-section is easier than a VB when that's not always the case. I think it does get forgotten that a c-section is major abdominal surgery and there is nothing easy about that.
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Posted By: Paws
Date Posted: 21 December 2007 at 2:20pm
ShellandBella wrote:
Peachy, I recovered pretty quickly from my c-sec and everyone commented on how well I looked and I was out and walking the baby after 2 weeks! My labour experience was very much like yours, and I (did) have good abs, but well, lets just say, they will never be the same again ! |
Oh good grief it took me ages to get back into walking for exercise...it was about 3 months later the family went for a walk and I was still getting pain around my scar from the mild exercise!
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Posted By: Sarah Beth
Date Posted: 21 December 2007 at 2:22pm
Peachy, my C-section recovery was a dream! I was walking kind of easily the day after and there wasn't too much pain. 5 days after it I was only on panadol and that was only occasionaly. That said, the c section itself was awful!
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Posted By: peachy
Date Posted: 21 December 2007 at 2:56pm
I was out walking around the block within two weeks too and I even attempted to get back into my running last week!
Sorry to thread jacked here, as you were everyone......
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Posted By: Lisha
Date Posted: 21 December 2007 at 3:14pm
Nah no worries :o) glad your c-section experience was ok peachy
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Posted By: jack_&_charli
Date Posted: 21 December 2007 at 4:00pm
both my c/s recoveries were a breeze too.....
was out shopping the day after i got out of hospital with charli, despite a large tear to my uterus that resulted in 3ltr bloodloss......it's the mental recovery of c/s i had problems with and still do
yes we don't know the full story behind it or if it's even true....so i guess we should'nt judge
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Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 21 December 2007 at 5:34pm
I very much doubt that she said it. A c/s is hardly painfree and she will have some of the best docs in the world looking after her, I doubt they would be telling her that having a c/s is a breeze. And even if she has chosen to have one for "non-medical" reasons who gives a crap, its her body and her baby(ies) let her do what she likes.
Peachy I also had a really good recovery, I was out with my dogs again the first week and driving again by week three and throwing my pram in and out of my boot. Had to keep reminding myself to take it easy. I didn't use the morphine, found it had no effect and by the second day I had stopped taking the voltaran(sp?) and the codeine. Something made me puke violently and continuously less than 24 hours after having the surgery so I refused to take any more drugs (didn't feel like I needed them anyway) apart from the one to stop me puking and the anti clotting jab which was another pleasant part of the c/s.
I didn't have great ABs but my job is manual and I do quite a lot of heavy lifting so that may have helped.
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Posted By: Glow
Date Posted: 21 December 2007 at 8:38pm
Electives rock
Go J Lo
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Posted By: AnnC
Date Posted: 21 December 2007 at 10:26pm
I didn't think the recovery was too bad. I came out of hospital 5 days after having Rhyley and went and sat thru Brookes dramam play for 2 hours and not too bad. What I didn't like about my c section and the reason why i would choose a VB is when I had my first 2 as soon as baby was out they were placed on me I got to hold cuddle coo and ahhh over them - check their fingers and toes and everything else - I saw them testing apgars and weighing etc... after rhyley a blanket was dropped - i know I looked but can't totally remember seeing him (lucky DH took photo to remind me) then blanket back up baby gone, I heard crying and dh got to go over to him, I heard more crying (mind this was probably from me this time LOL) and still no baby to see. DH got to bring Rhyley over to see me breifly but I couldnt hold my baby or cuddle. Then Midwife and DH 'took off' with MY baby and it felt like an eternity before I got to see him again.when in the recovery room 20 mins later, They then placed him in my arms but I was shaking so much from the drugs I couldn't hold him properly. I actually didn't feel like rhyley was my baby - could they had swapped him???( this was my silly thought) Then after all visitors had gone and it was Just me and rhyley I couldn't move - when he cried I couldn't do antying to comfort him cause i couldn't reach him. It wasn't till 1am the lovely midwife put him to sleep in bed with me (puttin the bed sides up) He cried almost all night cause we couldn't get comfortable to feed him so he had troble (he later was quite hard to breast feed - which I think he was slightly tongue tied) anyway I don't think i bonded with rhyley till after i had got up and walked ot the shower the next mornign and could look after my baby myself.... sorry long spile but didn't anyone else feel this way? Just after I had first two I could do everythign for them and the fed great (apart from when josh got jaundice really bad)
Sorry for the novel just wanted to esplain why i would choose a VB. (if I had the choice - Rhyley was breeched so had to have a c section)
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Posted By: Paws
Date Posted: 21 December 2007 at 10:49pm
AnnC wrote:
sorry long spile but didn't anyone else feel this way? Just after I had first two I could do everythign for them and the fed great (apart from when josh got jaundice really bad)
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I can totally relate! I HATED not being able to see Miss M...I hated not knowing what was going on and only being able to hear here crying...I couldn't stand how I shook with the drugs so uncontrollably and holding her was so hard to do. Those were all things I really really hated!
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Posted By: Sarah Beth
Date Posted: 22 December 2007 at 6:24am
I hated that I didn't even know my baby was alive! My c section took 3 times as long as it should and Jack didn't cry right away. They didn't show him to me, and I couldn't see him at all after he was out. As easy as my recovery was, I have a workmate that has had both and she also said VB was much easier, and so much better to recover from.
What every Angelina goes with, I just hope she made an informed decision
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Posted By: jack_&_charli
Date Posted: 22 December 2007 at 9:32am
i also hated with the c/s that because of the drugs i had, i can't remember a whole lot about just after the births, the first few moments of meeting the babies, the visitors or anything.
having to push the buzzer to get help to feed your crying baby, not being able to latch them yourself....urgh!!!
i would give anything to have another go at a VB, but atlas, it's not to be
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Posted By: miss
Date Posted: 22 December 2007 at 12:22pm
I had a great c section and if we ever had another child (which we aren't planning to) then i would go elective, simply because the complications that led to this one are likely to recur and I would prefer to do the c section with out the 36+ hour induction and labout time!
As for celebs, well, i think most of what is written about them are rubbish. Chances are she visited the ob who reccomended c setion for health reasons but becasue she doesn't run around telling the world what is happening up her vjj they have to make it up.
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