7 months old - please help
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Topic: 7 months old - please help
Posted By: Lua
Subject: 7 months old - please help
Date Posted: 08 January 2008 at 8:41am
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Hi - first time poster here so i dont know if this has been asked before. I need some help with my 7 month old son. He started sleeping thru the night at 3months old - since turning 7months old it has stopped. Waking up at either 1am/3.30am or 5am. He is fomula fed (having about 5-6 180mils) having solids morning and night (not that he is really into it) actually i think him waking has started since solids! maybe ive mucked up his routine, what should a 7months routine be like? Do i fed him when he wakes at night or is he forming a habit?
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Posted By: kebakat
Date Posted: 08 January 2008 at 9:05am
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He may just be getting use to the solids or maybe a growth spurt or teeth mucking him up. Then it could be the heat. There's so many things it might be. If Daniel wakes up between 7pm (his bed time) and 4am we resettle him back without getting a bottle.. sometimes he wakes at 10:30pm as its when his dream feed use to be but he doesn't need the extra milk considering the amount of milk hes drinking during the day. After 4am I figure if he wakes up hes probably going to be hungry.
Daniels routine goes: 5-6am: wakes up for a bottle, then back to bed 7-7:30am up for the day 8am: brekkie - solids 9ish: back to bed and another bottle 10:30am: up, play 11:30am: solids (lunch) 12:30pm: bottle and back to bed 1:30pm: up and play 3pm: bottle, back to bed 4:30pm: up, solids (tea) 6pm: small bottle while we eat tea, he usually just plays with it as we don't hold him to give it to him then start his night time routine (bath etc) 7pm: asleep for the night |
Posted By: Lua
Date Posted: 08 January 2008 at 10:37am
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Thanks for your reply
I just rung plunket (ur routine is like theres) who said i was feeding him too much formula and to start with solids first then bottle and to feed solids 3x a day. So hopefully that will help get him back to the way he was. Its funny how they just change over night. Im interested to know what solid foods you fed Daniel? I am feeding Max pear or banana in the morning and pumpkin or kumaru in the evening. |
Posted By: kebakat
Date Posted: 08 January 2008 at 10:55am
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Daniel chose his routine for us which is good.. I always try and make sure his solids are in the middle between 2 bottle feeds, that way hes hungry but not starving hehe.
Daniel is kinda fussy with solids. Brekkie he has: blueberry & apple muesli, banana or vanilla custard, or banana porridge Lunch he has: usually any of the watties blue tin veges mixed with some of the red tin stuff. like the pumpkin and sweetcorn blue tin mixed with some of the mashed red tin risotto stuff.. as I'm trying to get him trying mashed rather than always pureed. Then I try him on some fruit (he hates fruit). Dinner is much the same as lunch though he usually eats more for dinner. |
Posted By: kebakat
Date Posted: 08 January 2008 at 10:56am
| Oh and throughout the day we give him some finger foods to play/munch on. He's loving vegemite sammies at the mo, though he mostly sucks on them lol |
Posted By: 3boys
Date Posted: 08 January 2008 at 11:00am
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Could also be the heat - lots of people have been posting about night waking at the moment. The heat is a real killer. It is upsetting my kids too!
Its probably the combination of both. ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: Lua
Date Posted: 08 January 2008 at 11:47am
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thanks for that kebakat - Max made his own routine too but i think he changed it over night for me.
I too thought it was the heat, this waking in the night has probably gone on just before christmas. Plunket said he is hungry (for solids) as he is having alot of formula during the day and is fulling himself up on that but its not enough to get him thru the night. So he was having 5-6 180mil bottles during the day then another one at night (180mils), plus the little bit of solids during the day, but now he should have more food and less formual. Its all a bit too confusing for me!  i guess i'l just have to see how it goes
good to hear what other people are doing... |
Posted By: peanut butter
Date Posted: 08 January 2008 at 1:27pm
| Lua, did you just ring the plunketline or did you talk to your plunket nurse? I am having similar probs with my 4.5 mo old and naturally right in between plunket visits and just dont know who to ask. Is that what plunketline is for? |
Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 08 January 2008 at 1:38pm
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Yes nzpiper give plunketline a ring.
Our routine is this (roughly doesn't run like clockwork) 6am Feed back to bed 8am get up for day 9am feed and solids (I give them straight after his bottle) 11am sleep 1pm bottle and solids 3pm sleep 4.30pm bottle and solids 6.30pm bottle. 7pm bed. We have always followed the sleep, feed, play routine that plunket advocate, Spencer is a piggy for solids so at the moment he has his bottle first. He drinks 230ml at 6am and then 180ml at the other feeds. For foods we have fruit and rice for brekkie Meat and veges for lunch Veges and then a dessert of fruit for tea Good luck, hope he settles down for you soon ------------- 
 
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Posted By: kebakat
Date Posted: 08 January 2008 at 1:44pm
| Daniel wont take solids straight after a bottle which is why we went for solids right in between bottles. |
Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 08 January 2008 at 1:51pm
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Yeah I think if we did that he wouldn't ever have a bottle, I give it to him first so that he doesn't just have solids.
He was screaming at me this morning cos he could see the bowl but I wasn't feeding it to him and that was 2 mins after he had downed 180ml of formula. I'm always worried cos they say milk is still the main food till 12 months so I'm paranoid about making sure he has all his milk feeds. -------------
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Posted By: peanut butter
Date Posted: 08 January 2008 at 1:54pm
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Thanks Cuppatea, I just rang plunketline and someone will call me back. The lady I talked to was so nice and friendly which hasnt been my experience so far with plunket.
I totally missed Toms solid feed this morning as we have been chasing sleep and a proper boob feed all day. I think that may have been a mistake. |
Posted By: mamanee
Date Posted: 08 January 2008 at 3:00pm
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Ok, this is Sam's routine.
6-7AM - Wake up, bottle, back to bed 10AM - Up for the day, bottle 12:30 - Solids 2PM - Bottle, back to bed 4-5PM - wake up, solids 6PM - Bottle 7-9PM - very drawn out night routine, bathing, playing, relaxing Between 9PM and sometimes midnight (eek) BED for the night. Sam is a bugger for getting to sleep though, sometimes he's out to it at 8PM and other times he's giggling and thrashing at 11PM even if he's had no naps during the day which is a lovely habit of his! |
Posted By: Lua
Date Posted: 08 January 2008 at 3:16pm
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Yes nzpiper I rung plunketline as my plunket lady is away til mid-Jan. They were very helpful :)
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Posted By: Tricia
Date Posted: 08 January 2008 at 3:23pm
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That's interesting to see how much formula / milk you littlies are having. I thought Rohan was overeating as he has 5 x 150ml bottles a day at 7 months with 3 meals. The formula suggests that they should have about 600ml and he's on 750ml.
He wakes for a feed each night since Christmas too! Must be something on the water:) I tried cuddling him back to sleep the other night but it only lasted for half and hour. Then spent another 45 minutes trying to get him back to sleep but gave in and gave him a 100ml bottle that worked a treat. Oh fo rthe good old days when he slept through eh? |
Posted By: Lua
Date Posted: 08 January 2008 at 3:43pm
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My routine before my talk with plunket was Max up for the day at 6am and down for the night at 7pm. During the day was just feed - play (1.5 - 2hrs) then back to bed for 1hour or sometimes 1.5hrs. So when ever he wakes up we just do the same routine. Dont really know the set times but im sure its around the same time. Bed time was great, It was all working GREAT then just changed. Not that its bad now its just different. At lunch I tried him on solids first and man he ate heaps and had a smaller bottle afterwards, up for 2hours and i just put him to bed and hes fast asleep. I really didnt think he would sleep because he didnt have much formula - i guess i thought the best thing was to full him up on formula and he'l be right! but i was wrong. So fingers cross this will help him and he might sleep thru the night (hehe)
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Posted By: Lua
Date Posted: 08 January 2008 at 3:59pm
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Tricia - how odd that it started the same time for u....hmmm maybe it is the weather! who would know. I was doing the same trying to get Max back to sleep but just gave in and fed him.
The plunket lady said if they start to demand more formula at the age they are trying to full up on it but it doesnt sit in their tummy like food....ok she worded it better than what i am but how she said it made sense to me. Max has been having atleast 900mils and more in a day, she said more solids and drop to 600mils a day. |
Posted By: kebakat
Date Posted: 08 January 2008 at 4:31pm
| Daniel has around 900ml a day as well and he's almost 7 months. He has 3 solids feeds a day, he just gobbled up a tin of food (had an early dinner cause his routine got screwed today) which is unheard of for him at the mo. I'd love to drop the amount of formula hes having but if he eats his solids I don't care how much he drinks. |
Posted By: Tricia
Date Posted: 08 January 2008 at 5:27pm
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just gave Ro his tea of chicken and veggies - homemade cubes so they are about 65g. So I gave him a banana after - which he ate - and then another half of nana which went too! Maybe that will help him sleep through! He's not keen on any fruit apart from banana as well!
I think they know when you have them sussed so they throw a spanner in the works to keep us on our toes! |
Posted By: Tricia
Date Posted: 08 January 2008 at 5:29pm
| so when they eat a whole tin of food at each meal, what next if they don't do sweet stuff? Bigger tins I suppose! |
Posted By: Lua
Date Posted: 08 January 2008 at 5:38pm
| I gave max his dinner first and he cried the whole time but did eat it all and had a small bottle....oh well hopefully tomorrow goes better. |
Posted By: Tricia
Date Posted: 08 January 2008 at 7:37pm
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Is he teething possibly? Rohan seemed upset for what I thought was no reason (what a bad mother I am!) and off his food - then up popped his first two teeth on Xmas Day!
MIL spotted them first which made me feel very bad 
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Posted By: mamanee
Date Posted: 08 January 2008 at 9:10pm
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Sam cries in between mouthfuls sometimes if I give him solids before bottle.
Oh and he's on about 900mls+ a day too. Don't let plunket tell you how much formula they need, your little one will tell you how much they need. For ages Sam would have 4-5 bottles of 150mls, and now he's after at least 6 bottles a day, some with 150mls, some with 200mls! I agree, it could be teething too. 
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Posted By: Lua
Date Posted: 09 January 2008 at 9:04am
true it could be teething - no sign of a tooth or anything yet. He slept fantastic last night - so was it because of the hot weather lol who knows. Hubby and i spoke last night and agreed if max wants another bottle during the day then to give it too him as long as he gets his solid meals. Think i'll use plunket as a guide but will probably go by what the boy wants. Thanks for all the feedback 
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Posted By: Tricia
Date Posted: 09 January 2008 at 9:25am
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Great news! Rohan woke at 2.30 and had 150ml, then a squeak at 5 which we ignored. Then awake and gooing at 6.15 which we ignored and finally up at 7.15!
Still need to get more food into him during the day somehow! Oh well., try again today and see what happens. I think Plunket and others are great for the big things, but each baby is different so you know what suits your wee one best. Just trying to suss mine out still! |
Posted By: Lua
Date Posted: 09 January 2008 at 4:23pm
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Tricia - i just rung plunket again for some advice as max has had a hard day and of course i got another person and well she said a 7month old should be having about 1 litre formula! she was very odd those - telling me babies wake at night because thats what they did when mums fed them in the caves!!!! all very odd. Think i wont be ringing them for advice again - cant wait til my plunket lady is back.
So now im just as confused haha - i think its best i just give him bottle first then solid. She did say they just offer advice - but its hard when u get told completely different and odd advice. |
Posted By: Tricia
Date Posted: 09 January 2008 at 6:26pm
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I know what you mean. I've been pulling my hair out with Ro today - last bottle he had was a 10.30 and he won't touch one since - not for want of me trying!
He had his solids at lunch OK but knocked his tea out of my hand and smashed the bowl on the floor! An accident I'm sure but it just adds to my frustration. Just finished his temper tantrum and is asleep which is going to totally wreck his bedtime routine!! If only they came with a user guide eh? I don't think I'm cut out for being a mother somehow. 
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Posted By: Lua
Date Posted: 09 January 2008 at 8:54pm
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Oh i SO know how u feel, Max was up for most of the day - tired as but wouldn't sleep, he eventually did and when he woke he was full of giggles - its the smiles and giggles that get me through it.
I have felt hopeless the last few days to the point that i think Max hates me and plunket confusing me hasn't helped me either. I use to have Max sorted with a good day and night routine that just all of a sudden changed. I think I just need to take it day by day - tomorrow is a brand new day.
Hope tomorrow is better for the both of you as well |
Posted By: Tricia
Date Posted: 10 January 2008 at 12:10pm
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Know what you mean - DH came home and played with Ro - he was all smiles and giggles and one look just makes it all better!
Only up once last night which is good. He seems to start off OK on his botle then get very anti it - tried bonjela on his gums to see if that helps and we finally finished the bottle - though it was a tussle! I think I'll stick to the advice of mu Mum's group from our Plunket classes - they seem to have been there for most of Ro's issues. Have a good day Lua! |