Night time toilet stops
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Topic: Night time toilet stops
Posted By: Jennz
Subject: Night time toilet stops
Date Posted: 10 January 2008 at 11:31pm
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Charlotte has been totally toilet trained at night for a while now- shes really good and hasn't wet the bed in ages. I always get her up and take her to the toilet before I go to bed at 10.30pm ish- she usually always goes, usually quite a bit. For those who have older kiddies- if you did get them up to go to the toilet, when did you stop doing it? She sleeps so deeply (usually barely even wakes up when I take her!) I don't think she would wake herself up to go if she needed too. ------------- Jen, Charlotte 7 & Kate 3 
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Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 10 January 2008 at 11:36pm
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Jen, I posted on this in the toilet training thread as I read another mum posting about this and I had been wondering the same thing!.
Apparently no amount of "training" can prepare your kiddo for being dry through the night and it all depends on hormones. There is a certain hormone that they have to start producing which concentrates the wees so that there is little(ish) of it but it is quite strong smelling and coloured. I noticed it a few weeks before I was game enough to stop 'lifting' Hannah at nights... but it was when she was at Mum's house that Hannah was dry all night as Mum couldn't be arsed taking her to the toilet before bed. And she's only had one accident since! (She's been dry at night since November without being lifted) So, if the urine is concentrated in the morning then I'd be inclined to think she'd be ready for you to stop lifting her to the toilet at night. Every now and again Hannah will wake up in the early hours and ask to be taken to the toilet but that is rare (and the fact that she wakes up is super good) HTH |
Posted By: Jennz
Date Posted: 10 January 2008 at 11:51pm
Brilliant- thanks for that Nikki! Will have a look in the morning  ------------- Jen, Charlotte 7 & Kate 3
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Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 10 January 2008 at 11:57pm
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Just found this which explains it in a bit more detail and much better language!
"Weeks and often months later, daytime bladder readiness is followed by nighttime bladder readiness. When potty training commences before 30 months, there is usually a delay between daytime success and complete nighttime dryness. That is because nighttime dryness requires more “growth” time. Your child’s bladder must grow to the point that it can store concentrated urine for 8–10 hours. In addition, the bladder-wake reflex must have time to mature. This is the mechanism that wakes us up out of a sound sleep when the bladder is full, so we are not incontinent. Then there is ADH (antidiuretic hormone). The production and release of this hormone helps to slow the making of our urine. The body normally produces more ADH at night so that the need to urinate is lessened. If the body does not produce enough ADH, the bladder can fill, leading to wetting. With all of these factors playing into your training, no one really knows exactly when a child might achieve nighttime bladder readiness. We only know that based on normative statistics, the average range is between 24 and 40 months." Growing Families International http://www.gfi.org/java/jsp/article6.htm |
Posted By: Jennz
Date Posted: 11 January 2008 at 12:24am
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Great so she should be more than ready then! Would be nice to have it sorted before we come back for our holiday Will have our first go at it tonight.
Thanks ------------- Jen, Charlotte 7 & Kate 3
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Posted By: Bumble
Date Posted: 11 January 2008 at 2:21pm
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ooo Good luck with that!!!
We still aren't there with the night time toilet yet... :( But it has forced me to put my thinking cap on and develop a new product!!! (Which works REALLY well BTW!!) LOL ------------- formerly known as "Bee" Ethan ~ March 2003 Big 6 year old school boy! Micah ~ Aug 2008 ~ Smiley pants who loves telephones! |
Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 11 January 2008 at 6:39pm
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I'm at the same stage as you Jennz, now I have that little bit of info (thanks Nikki) I may try that tonight with Andrew. ------------- I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived! |
Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 13 January 2008 at 5:50pm
| Well... just to warn ya - they do regress! Han had an overnight accident 2 out of 3 nights last week... forgot to ask Mum how she's been the last few days but hope like heck it was a one-off (two-off??) |
Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 13 January 2008 at 6:19pm
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So far we are 2 dry nights and no toilet stops at about 10.30. Fingers crossed it continues. ------------- I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived! |
Posted By: Jennz
Date Posted: 13 January 2008 at 9:46pm
Thats great! I still haven't been brave enough to try  Next weekend! ------------- Jen, Charlotte 7 & Kate 3
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