Demon Child
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Topic: Demon Child
Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Subject: Demon Child
Date Posted: 11 January 2006 at 9:08pm
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Right. Presently my child is standing up in her cot screaming her little lungs out.
It seems that little miss doesn't want to go to sleep. Last night she went to sleep fine but then woke at 10pm and screamed and screamed and screamed. Tried to settle her in her own bed. Wouldn't sleep. Tried to snuggle down in my bed. Wouldn't sleep. Left her screaming in her cot and I have no idea how long she slept, if at all, but I woke at about 5am to her screaming again. Snuggled her in my bed and she finally went to sleep though managed to push me off the bed with her squirming. I don't understand. She isn't teething and has never done this before. My only other idea is that she is scared of the wind but even that doesn't seem to be the case when I gauge her reaction to big gusts. She is driving me nuts!!! |
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Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 11 January 2006 at 9:19pm
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Alright, she seems to have screamed herself to the point of exhaustion.
If anyone has any tips to make tomorrow night easier I'd greatly appreciate it! She's been so good about going to bed lately 
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Posted By: Roxy
Date Posted: 11 January 2006 at 9:24pm
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Hiya..dnt no if Im any good with giving advice but have you had her ears checked???sounds like she uncomfortable and quite often they wont want to lie down...it hurts more then.I suffered ear infections all my life from 5wks till 17yrs old and I no how agonizing it can be!!!laying down the worst and no sleep....may not be that thou...very upsetting when seems theres nothing you can do to make them happy eh ------------- Caleb 15/11/02 Brooke 14/11/05 |
Posted By: k&jsmum
Date Posted: 11 January 2006 at 9:29pm
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uumm how bout some headphones If you know nothing is wrong with her ( get a doc to check her out as I had to before letting Jaidyn cry himself to sleep) then if you can just let her be. Can be hard thou. ------------- Marlene Keegan ~ 14 October 2003 Jaidyn ~ 14 October 2003 |
Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 11 January 2006 at 9:30pm
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Hmmmmmm... it's a possibility but she hasn't got a fever or anything. If she does it again tomorrow I might get them checked.
I'm lacking sympathy because I think she is just being naughty. |
Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 11 January 2006 at 9:32pm
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She has just gotten over an illness as well.. so possibly she's feeling much better than she was 3 or 4 days ago and so thinks she can stay up and play later???
She has also had giant day sleeps the last two days so I'm wondering whether that is the problem. But that doesn't explain yesterday when she went to sleep fine straight off, but woke a bit later and wouldn't sleep?!?!? Ah this is so hard! I wish she could talk!!! |
Posted By: k&jsmum
Date Posted: 11 January 2006 at 9:42pm
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I find with the boys that if they have an arvo sleep then i am stuffed for the night as they like to nap for up 2 1/2-3 hrs and then will be up all night. So now they go for a nap about 10am (after waking between 5-5.30am) and wake about 12.30-1ish. So i tire them out for the arvo and they go to bed great. This was proved when we had a coffee group yest and they didnt get to nap until 12.45 and woke just after 3. we spent the night playing yoyo toddlers!!! ------------- Marlene Keegan ~ 14 October 2003 Jaidyn ~ 14 October 2003 |
Posted By: meow
Date Posted: 11 January 2006 at 9:44pm
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Ella goes through stages of screaming to sleep and then being great.. before we went on holiday she had just started sleeping through the night, going to bed fine at night, waking up happy in the morning etc etc.
At present she stands up as soon as I lie her down in bed, then screams her head off for a while, she's getting better each night though (I think!). But she is waking up at around midnight (or whenever we've settled into bed for the night) and cries for a few hours. Hopefully for Hannah its a phase or something you can fix.. with Ella, who knows what is wrong.. I wish I could offer advice! All I can say is I wish she would stop it!!------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: Roxy
Date Posted: 11 January 2006 at 9:50pm
It does make it much easier when they det older and can tell you what the prob is....although then they can play holleywoods too...Caleb has just started that....think its when he feels he not getting enuf attention.gd luck for tonight though.Im off to bed..have no idea how many times Ill be getting up tonight...think I sometimes sleepwalk to brookes bedroom and see to her cause somtimes I cant remember how many times or what times I got up to her...scary!!!!! ------------- Caleb 15/11/02 Brooke 14/11/05 |
Posted By: meow
Date Posted: 11 January 2006 at 9:50pm
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Oh yeah, Ella is teething and she does this each time, whether she has a tooth or not.. the thing is, she is fine all day and then decides it hurts her at night.. doesn't stop it even with pamol, bonjela and teething powder (I've checked and all three at once are fine! lol) ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 12 January 2006 at 7:15am
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Maybe it IS just a phase Nikki, cause jake is being a bedtime bandit too. I put him down at 7. He goes to sleep as usual, then wakes up about an hour later and won't go back to sleep. So i go in and check on him, and he decides he's getting up and runs off. And I'm slower than him at the moment, so he thinks it's a great joke. Then we go back to bed, and he screams and screams and screams. I've taken to having a shower at that time and singing loudly cause it drowns out the noise. by the time I'm finished, he's either quieter, or asleep.
Are you sure she's not teething? Jake was really upset last week which i thought was hjim being naughty, then found an eye tooth poking up in his gums ( which i thought you were supposed to get after molars - not befoer). I think by going in i started a trend. he knows now that if he cries enough someone will go in. But it is hard to let him cry, especially when he's sobbing. And in the past UI was "tough mum" only to find he was crying cause he had jammed his leg in the cot side. |
Posted By: AnnaD
Date Posted: 12 January 2006 at 8:18am
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Quinn goes thru bedtime phases too... When he is sick I am more sympathetic and respond more to his crying, then I find that once he is well again he plays up thinking he can get the same treatment. Maybe she is just being sneaky?
But on the other hand, one day I was playing mean mum to a very upset baby, took him to the doc the next day and found out both ears were infected. Made me feel like a right cow. So maybe get her checked out at the doc, and the if she is all good, ignore her crying? (I am a mean mum tho, I swear Andy thinks I am mean when I ignore Quinn crying. But the smart fella that he is he doesn't say anything, knowing quite rightly that I would bite his ear off! Hmmm, mean mum and mean girlfriend - why do they put up with me?) ------------- Anna and Quinn 10 July 2004 www.quinnariki.blogspot.com and one more on the way.... http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 12 January 2006 at 8:51am
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ha Roxy i am going through the same right now - i swear i have amnesia most nights as to how many times i have woken up to ayja, since she is just in our room i can get her up when she first strats to cry, give her a feed ans tick her back into bed and that's it, but it's been at lest 3 times a night lately between 11pm and 6am, so that's a fair amount. I hope she's going through a growth spurt, cos once i go back on placement i am not going to want to be waking up so often! ------------- Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja 
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Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 12 January 2006 at 8:57am
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oh yeah, nikki, sounds like what paris used to do, sleep for a while then wake up later and not want to go back to sleep, we used to change her bum, give her a bottle and some cuddles then back to bed. we also learnt that baby massage was great.. not the full thing, but even istting with her and massaging her head cor a couple of mins, not till she slept but just till she settled down, was enough to relax her and help her sleep again. ------------- Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja
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Posted By: newmum
Date Posted: 12 January 2006 at 9:21am
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weird, Joey is waking up twice a night at the moment too but luckily he only needs resettling and then he is back off to sleep.... Maybe it is a summer thing???
Whatever it is I hope it gets better soon Nikki  I have no advice to give because I am a complete novice at this whole mama thing!!  ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: k&jsmum
Date Posted: 12 January 2006 at 10:58am
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maybe its the wind - my mum always reckoned that the wind effected people in a negative way. she reckons theres more crimes commited when theres heaps of wind!! ------------- Marlene Keegan ~ 14 October 2003 Jaidyn ~ 14 October 2003 |
Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 12 January 2006 at 11:04am
| my step-mum reckons the same thing about the win! I just found another tooth of jake's poking up, so maybe thats why he's been grumpy. Its funny though, when your baby is crying its like veryone you talk to is saying their child sleeps through the night every night since 3 days old, then you talk to Ohbaby and find out, no it's not just you and your child! Makes me feel better that others are suffering like me! |
Posted By: newmum
Date Posted: 12 January 2006 at 11:30am
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I noticed my kids at school were always more mental than usual on a windy day! Maybe there is some truth to it? ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: aimeejoy
Date Posted: 12 January 2006 at 12:15pm
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Hannah has been a bit weird with her sleep too. She been waking in the night but doesnt need a feed just needs to be resettled. Maybe it is the wind?? ------------- Aimee Hannah 22/10/05 Greer 11/02/08 |
Posted By: AnnaD
Date Posted: 12 January 2006 at 12:40pm
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Completely off the sleep topic but relating to the wind thing... Andy (my policeman partner) says there is HEAPS more crime when it is a full moon... crazy huh? ------------- Anna and Quinn 10 July 2004 www.quinnariki.blogspot.com and one more on the way.... http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: meow
Date Posted: 12 January 2006 at 1:00pm
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Lizzle, I always feel that way about other babies sleeping through the night!
She was so great before our holiday and now she is worse than ever at night.. last night she woke up again and wouldn't sleep for 2 hours or more.. I gave her bonjela as she was biting on something when I got her, but I really wish there was an answer! Doesn't help when you ring plunket in the middle of the night and some stupid woman there (don't get me wrong, I've only had one bad nurse - her) tells you that at 18 months there is no excuse for not sleeping through the night! I almost yelled at her! ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 12 January 2006 at 1:02pm
| you should've said that you'd put Ella on the phone and the plunket lady could explain it to her. |
Posted By: daikini
Date Posted: 12 January 2006 at 1:51pm
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So what would she (the silly nurse that is) say about me, 25 and not sleeping through the night? (and not just because Josiah wakes still)
Some people think they know everything! ------------- Becca, mum of 2 girls & 3 boys |
Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 12 January 2006 at 2:24pm
must be the wind as Jake is being a REAL McMaggot at the mo with his sleep... Even phenergan last night DIDNT work, am going crazy with the bursts of only an hour at a time sleeping...........  ------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P |
Posted By: aimeejoy
Date Posted: 12 January 2006 at 3:35pm
These kids must have some sort of secret gang and they have decided to torment us all with no sleep?!  ------------- Aimee Hannah 22/10/05 Greer 11/02/08 |
Posted By: Xander&Harmony
Date Posted: 12 January 2006 at 5:18pm
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i had the opposite today,Harmony slept for roughly 3 hrs!!!!!! I only get 1- 1 1/2 during the day ------------- BECS http://www.sparklee.com"> 
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Posted By: meow
Date Posted: 12 January 2006 at 6:07pm
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The first thing she heard was Ella screaming, and she said "is that child throwing her weight around?" I felt like slapping her! ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: daikini
Date Posted: 12 January 2006 at 8:04pm
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Count Josiah in that secret gang! Mind you, he's got a really upset tummy (playdoh green type of thing) and a rather burnt bottom at the moment... and we think he might be teething... ------------- Becca, mum of 2 girls & 3 boys |
Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 12 January 2006 at 8:40pm
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what??? i cannot beleive that person said that - although - you do know that plunketline has merged with health line - so i'm unsure if you always get to talk to actual plunket nurses, maybe it was just some other person... still - no excuse! bet she doesn't have kids,
hey yeah i think Ayja might be in that gang too - or teething, not holding out much hope since paris didn't get first teeth till 11 months, but ayja is biting EVERYTHING, even sticking her fingers in her mouth, biting down and pulling her fingers out - as you can guess, screaming usually follows this.. ------------- Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja
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Posted By: Roxy
Date Posted: 12 January 2006 at 9:34pm
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Ha ha that wind thing is cracking me up.must be true though.kinda weird eh.hey I also find that when I talk to other friends their babies all seem to sleep right through the night since very early on....makes me feel like I must be doing something wrong.My mum inlaw reckons half of them are just saying that....Perhaps they are just extremly heavy sleepers.(The parents I mean)
Anyway wondering how Hannah Elizabeth is now??????????????? ------------- Caleb 15/11/02 Brooke 14/11/05 |
Posted By: newmum
Date Posted: 12 January 2006 at 9:39pm
Maybe the secret gang has an "Oh Mama" website and write about us secretly???????  ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 12 January 2006 at 10:04pm
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Right. Had another episode with Demon Child tonight.
I felt sorry for her thinking that she was possibly having nightmares or had suddenly developed a fear of the dark (it can happen right???) anyway, didn't make any difference. She just didn't want to sleep. I watched her and she was definitely tired, her eyes did the rolly-back thing but every time they went to shut she would squirm and try and stand up again to keep herself awake. I have no idea how long I stayed in there (so isn't an issue of needing me for comfort) but I eventually gave up when I saw how much of an effort it was for her to stay awake. I left and she cried for about a minute and then gave up. Went in later to find her curled up in a ball upside-down at the feet end of her cot. Is Hannah leading this baby rebellion?!?!? and re: Mothers thinking that their children always sleep through the night - I can guarantee that it is selective memory. I think Hannah is a perfect sleeper (apart from these last few nights of course) and in a couple of weeks I will have forgotten about this week too! Yay for baby brain!!! |
Posted By: james
Date Posted: 12 January 2006 at 10:20pm
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hahaha james has gotta be in the sleep gang (thank god hes not standing yet) i dont no how i wounld get him too sleep then james has never and i mean never sleep thur the night(me very tried) so that so called pulket nurse donst no what she is talking about!!!!! i have tried everything butt hes ahungry bub ------------- <a href="http://lilypie.com"><img src="http://b4.lilypie.com/nLJ5p13.png" alt="Lilypie 4th Birthday Ticker" border="0" /></a> |
Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 12 January 2006 at 10:25pm
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I read somewhere a while ago that it is very rare for a child to sleep right through the night constantly up until around 3 years of age... and I'd beleive that. there's always nights when they are cold, wet hungry too hot, feeling sick, over tired, overstimulated you name it.. any person who says their child has always slept thru is LYING!!! ------------- Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja
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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 13 January 2006 at 7:59am
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i lie all the time. it's easier, or you get "helpful" advice.
Jake woke up last night absolutely soaked!!!So we had to change him and the bed, which woke him up even more - then it was playtime. I was knackered! After he headbutted me, he went back to sleep and we got up at 7am....a sleep-in yah!! Found another tooth though, and he has little white lumps up and down his gums, so am thinking we may have some sleepless nights ahead....hehe I should be in hospital soon leaving Lewis to deal with it. mwahahaha |
Posted By: AnnaD
Date Posted: 13 January 2006 at 8:10am
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I am a big fan of bending the truth so as not to get that advice too!!
Hmm sleeping thru, my child seems to have maybe mastered that for the moment. He slept from 11pm til 11am from six weeks, I thought i was the most legendary mother out there. Until he hit three months and then he started waking up, on average five times a night. Now he sleeps at seven and SOMETIMES goes until five. I find now that I can handle dragging myself out of bed in the night but struggle badly with waking so early. Anyone who says their child sleeps thru all the time so young MUST have a selective memory. ------------- Anna and Quinn 10 July 2004 www.quinnariki.blogspot.com and one more on the way.... http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: meow
Date Posted: 13 January 2006 at 8:45am
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Last night was night 5 or 6 of Ella waking up and not going back to sleep for 2 hours +.. She cries but is ok when we go to see her.. this kid can scream for ages! She is not sick and her teething isn't bothering her during the day!!
Oh yeah she is waking at midnight and sometimes we're still trying to go to sleep at 3!!!! Anyone have advice? This kid is driving us nuts ------------- http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: jack_&_charli
Date Posted: 13 January 2006 at 8:48am
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well i don't mean to boast but.........
jack has slept through (9-7am) from about 6-7wks and we've gradually worked into 7.30-7am. he does wake during the night though, i can hear him chattering to himself on the monitor, so cute
i'm one of the lucky ones and i really feel for you guys going through this my bet is our next baby will make up for all those nights of unbroken sleep i've been so blessed with!  ------------- http://www.alternatickers.com"> 
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Posted By: AlyAyde
Date Posted: 13 January 2006 at 9:10am
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I think night waking has something to do with the cycle of the moon. When its a full moon or nearly full sleeping in our house sucks. And its nearly a full moon at the moment ------------- Jayde 25/12/04 Alyssa 08/04/03 http://Alyayde.bebo.com |
Posted By: aimeejoy
Date Posted: 13 January 2006 at 9:20am
Rox - which Hannah Elizabeth?! Nikki's Hannah has the same middle name! 
I have given up on this dummy weaning plan for a while. Its much easier just to give it. She was asleep at 7pm and she woke up at 5.45am, gave her the dummy and she was straight back to sleep til 7am. Better than it has been, and really I cant complain after reading what some of you are going through at the moment. ------------- Aimee Hannah 22/10/05 Greer 11/02/08 |
Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 13 January 2006 at 4:34pm
Mine is Hannah Elisabeth so I'm guessing she meant you. (That aside from the fact that she barely knows me and probably couldn't care less about my Hannah  )
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Posted By: aimeejoy
Date Posted: 13 January 2006 at 4:37pm
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lol Nikki ------------- Aimee Hannah 22/10/05 Greer 11/02/08 |