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Topic: AAARRRGGGHHHHHHHHH
Posted By: fattartsrock
Subject: AAARRRGGGHHHHHHHHH
Date Posted: 17 January 2006 at 3:52pm
Well, we are having such drama with JJ sleeping at the mo. Janine had a similar thread a while ago about Ayja, so I am guesing it is part age, part teething, part heat and part Xmas routine muck ups that is doing it, but I am like the walking dead. I have been getting by on about 3 1/2 hours of sleep a night. Anyhow, we are doing the dad gets up during the night thing that plunket suggested, and Jacob DEF doesn't carry on as much after he puts him back down as he does when I do, but after 4 nights of this (last night was bad)hubby has had enough, and has told me I have to get up to him as he is "tired". (because, obviously, having not had a full nights sleep in, I dunno, NINE months, I'm not..)oh, and he has to "work". (because, clearly, having a job AND looking after a home and baby, save from the 20 minutes he plays with him after work, I don't work) Anyhow, almighty rows ensued at 2.30am when he drops this bomb, ending with me sleeping in the spare room, calling him a selfish pr@ck, and no more sleep last night. At lunchtime, he still feels the same way. Apparently, I "handle" it better. Thing is I don't. I am at the end of my rope. My concentration is nil, and I am starting to get angry and resentful of Jacob. I lvoe this little boy with my dying breath, but how on earth am I going to do this resettle thing in the midle of the night on my own? I am starting to feel like if i am raising JJ on my own, then I may as well be on my own, In my own place doing it my own way. I do feel like leaving (was plotting escape at 4am this morn..) Obviously Jake sees no point crying for long when he goes in as there is no milk to smell, but it is confusing for him when i go in and resettle a few times and then to feed around 4,30am, he just gets the idea that if he cries enuff, i will give in. Hubby can't see that. Any ideas on this settleing thing????
Sorry for vent and Novel, but you ladies are a wealth of information!!
------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P
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Posted By: fairsk8
Date Posted: 17 January 2006 at 4:42pm
I'm sorry Annie but I am pretty new to this motherhood business so am probably no help to you whatsoever, but I do feel for you and am kinda in the same boat with my own man. I can't remember the last time he got up in the middle of the night but he still complains bout being tired. I really hope the other ladies can be of help to you so you can start getting some sleep.
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Posted By: james
Date Posted: 17 January 2006 at 7:03pm
srooy i,m no help(i,m on my own) could u leave bubs too cry (easer said then done )maybe then he ((your man) will get p@@@@@@@ off anuff and go and do it i no how u8 feel with the no sleep my boys 7 months old now and still gets up for 1 bottle a night sometimes 2 i hope things get easer sorry i,m not one too pull any punches with men
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Posted By: k&jsmum
Date Posted: 17 January 2006 at 7:58pm
Oh Annie so sorry that you are feeling that way. I do remember the sleep deprivation I had with the boys. I dont really know what to say as I kinda just zombied my way thru those mths as I had split with the boys dad by then and i had the nights where i just bawled my eyes and begged the boys to please go to sleep. Are you able to have a sleep when jacob has his day slep/s? I think thats what keep me going in the end is that i would make sure i slept when they did. Anyway hope it all works out for you soon.
------------- Marlene
Keegan ~ 14 October 2003
Jaidyn ~ 14 October 2003
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Posted By: aimeejoy
Date Posted: 17 January 2006 at 8:16pm
Sorry to hear how things are going at the mometn Annie. I dont have any ideas either sorry cos I'm too new at this as well, but day sleeps sound like a good idea - bugger the housework, your sanity (and relationship) much more important. Hope things improve soon.
------------- Aimee
Hannah 22/10/05
Greer 11/02/08
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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 17 January 2006 at 9:16pm
Marlene I can so relate to the crying and begging baby to sleep - when Maya was sick and I was on my own and I had to feed her hourly I can vividly remember sitting in the lounge breastfeeding her with tears running down my face feeling so tense and silently begging her to hurry up and go back to sleep for fear I would hurt her out of sheer exhaustion.
And I definitely agree with the day sleeps thing if its at all possible. Maya only ever slept 45 mins at a stretch during the day, but her daycare and my study hours meant that I could catch an afternoon nap some days before I had to pick her up from daycare, and that few minutes sleep made all the difference.
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Posted By: Roxy
Date Posted: 17 January 2006 at 9:27pm
Oh man...and here I am wishing Brooke was older thinking it gets easier........maybe you go to library and get loads of books(baby whisperer,oh baby,contented little baby book etc) and read up on all the info bout sleep probs and solutions and try find one that could suit you??????I was told yesterday that Babywise by Ezzo&Bucknan is a really great book.....I understand the stress these probs can cause in your relationship...we been having the same.....Went for few days thinking my husband was a real arsehole.felt he was critical and not supportive at all...think in truth it was bit of that but I was just very emotionally stressed.It sux but at end of day it really does feel that like a baby is mainly the mothers responsibility eh.....I not sure what else to say but if you want I could give you my ph num and you could ph me when you having real crap time and really let it all vent!!!!Even during night cause I prob up too
------------- Caleb 15/11/02 Brooke 14/11/05
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Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 17 January 2006 at 9:44pm
I've got baby whisperer and its a great book, but not really 4 right now!!!
Emma, i also do the sit on the couch and cry while feeding willing him to hurry up! I used to do that at first with the whole colic/reflux thing, and now...
I just really feel like I am doing EVERYTHING. Got home from work yesterday arvo and dishwasher wasn't unloaded, bed unmade, washing in machine... Rod comes home at lunchtime, too, al these things were ready to be done before we both left 4 work... then I had to cook tea and i was about to hang out another load (nappies) so i asked him to clean up from tea, and he said no cos he was tired... Good job there were no blunt intruments near....
both tired and grumpy. Jake is so lucky he is sooo cute!!!
------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P
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Posted By: Roxy
Date Posted: 17 January 2006 at 9:47pm
Well Im of to bed...I really hope that things get better...maybe tonight???????I'll cross my fingers for you.....oneday we will all look back and laugh and think" was it really that bad"............amazing how ya mind makes you forget the hard parts........
------------- Caleb 15/11/02 Brooke 14/11/05
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Posted By: toniellis
Date Posted: 17 January 2006 at 9:54pm
Hey ladies I think Jacobs mama is actually a working mum if I read her message right. That makes things very very hard.
The only thing I can advise is to ignore bubs. Very hard & certainly not everyone's cup of tea. I don't really have much experience with it as the only time Alex hasn't slept through the night since he was 6 weeks old was when he was teething or sick. And even then my fiancee Spencer slept right through it without even stirring!
You need to talk to hubby about this more, maybe write him a letter about how you are feeling? He needs to be a part of his son's life & if he is being really stubborn maybe try alternating nights on who has to get up? Obviously it is upsetting you a lot & with having such little sleep, everything is so much worse.
I hope you can resolve everything! And hopefully someone else may be able to help you better than I can.
------------- Mum to Alex (11), Blaire (10) & Erika (8) and Damien (6)
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Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 18 January 2006 at 8:56am
try telling him - if he thinks you cope better, tell him exactly what you told us - you're not! sometimes that is enough to make them realise we aren't super mums, we get just as stressed out. and with the not doing anything round the house... if he's itred, then maybe he should stop and realise that you are too - and remember that if he helps you out, then you can BOTH sit down TOGETHER... instead of being tired grumpy and snotty with each other. sounds good in theory - just depends on how much actually sinks in though......
------------- Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja
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Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 18 January 2006 at 9:00am
and geez - if he comes home at lunch - he should at least do 1 thing. Mike has found it hard adjusting to me being in full time study etc again after taking time off with paris - when i am doing assignments or out on placement - he sometimes gets quite snowed under, as do i, and the house is a bombsite... he was quite surprised i think when i told him that, well, that's what it will be like when i am working full time - so we should both buck up our ideas and figure out a way to handle - otherwise we'll be like this forever!... don't think that realisation was taken too well.
he does now have times when he will come home at lunch and do stuff - and it's nice to come home and find that he's hung out the washing, or done the dishes and vaccumed. other times though he will not do anything for days. i really hope that rod figures it out, you are tired, and need sleep just as much!
(by the way, it's a bad habit to get into, but i cheat with the resettling thing.... when ayja wakes at night, she gets fed everytime, it makes her go back to sleep, i figure it's easier to feed and put her back to bed to sleep, that sit up for hours with her screaming... ESPECIALLY when i have study or placement the next day)
------------- Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja
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Posted By: jack_&_charli
Date Posted: 18 January 2006 at 9:03am
maybe you could show him your posts in here?? i think someone has done that here before and it got through to the hubby
sorry i'm not much help, but hope things improve for you soon!
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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 18 January 2006 at 9:13am
Lewis and I were exactly the same. what helped us was when I went to fulltime work and Lewis became Jake's main caregiver...maybe for you, you could leave Jacob with Rod for a day. Anyway, after Jake had been lewis' responsibilty for a week lewis apologised to me. I asked why and he asid that when i was off work, he'd come home and the house wouild be messy and I ask him to cook tea or something. he'd do it, but be a bit p@ssed off. He figured that i was at home all day, i had loads of time, and had "obviously" been sitting watching tv. Then after a few days with jake alone, he realised the reality of "staying at home" and that sitting watching tv doesn't feature a hell of a lot.
Another thing that helped us was a roster. We wrote a list of chores that needed doing during the week - everyweek. Then we discussed what ones we could do. And put it on then fridge. Then i didn't need to nag Lewis to do stuff as he knew what to do (and men generally are really thick about this) and at the end of the week, if he hadn't done stuff, he would feel guilty. yah!
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Posted By: newmum
Date Posted: 18 January 2006 at 9:42am
lol, Peter told me when we were at home TOGETHER after xmas for 10 days that he didn't realise how tough it was!
He suggested the roster thing the other day too, I think he doesn't want me to feel obligated to do everything myself becaise I often feel guilty if he comes home and I haven't done everything that day!
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Posted By: fairsk8
Date Posted: 18 January 2006 at 10:04am
Wow my partner has just taken Xanda for a walk to give me an hour break, maybe you hubby could take Jacob for a walk when he gets home from work, just to give you a bit of time to yourself.I find walking Xanda in the evenings also settles him down for bed time, he loves being in his buggy and it calms him down.
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Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 19 January 2006 at 9:19pm
Ok. Update. Thanks ladies for all your support and help. I feel like such a heel coming on here and baging Rod. He is a great Dad, but I guess men just don't think like we do. I managed to talk him into sticking out the re settleing thing for a bit longer, and I have tweaked Jakes routine a little. he seems to sleep for about 5 or 6 hours then wakes up every hour after that, so I have made his day sleeps later and his bed time later. So last night instead of waking at 12am or 1am last night it was 2.30am then 3am, and asleep till 4.30 at which point I got up to feed him. THe 3am was only cos he dropped teddy...
I discussed the roster idea with him, but he was WWWAAAYYYY to into that, and in my minds eye, I could see all the jobs I really hate (and try to ignore) ending up on there....
He looked after Jake for 2 weeks over christmas whikle he was off, and enjoyed it, Jake was good, and they bonded well. He even said to me how hard it is to get things done sometimes... although i think he may have forgotten that...
We will battle on....
Thanks for letting me vent, girls..
------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P
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Posted By: angel169nz
Date Posted: 23 January 2006 at 7:35pm
I wish I could help youout. We arent even close to that stage yet. Chasity is just 7 weeks, But her Dad and I have night on night off. Its the best thing ever. On my nights offall I do is feed her then hand her over to the Hubby, he changes her and puts her to bed. If she is unsettled, he settles her. On my nights on, I do it all while he sleeps.
It works for us.
Good luck and hang in there your doing well hun
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Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 23 January 2006 at 9:11pm
Thanks!
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Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 24 January 2006 at 2:10pm
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How is it going now Annie??? Jacob sleeping any better?
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Posted By: Popsicle
Date Posted: 24 January 2006 at 3:49pm
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Annie you poor thing. I have just had dejavu though. We had the same thing for a couple of months and because my partner could sleep through an earthquake, typhoon and tsunami, it was down to me to get up all through the night (which, trust me, he copped ear bashings over it on a daily basis). I work full time, so was a walking zombie surviving on about 4 hours a night. I put it down to bits and pieces of everything - teething, cold, packing up house, moving house, new house - but it started way before we moved and carried on way after we moved. Then she started performing when we put her to bed each night as well as during the night.
Hmm, what did I do? I bought a little CD player and a lullaby CD and played that when we put her to bed. Then for the night wakings, I put a mattress down on the floor in Gabrielle's room and got a blanket and slept there most of the time. Every time she woke up, I would just "shh-shh" and "mummy's here" without getting her out of her bed or even looking at her. Oh, also put a night light in her room. It then started to peter out and after about a week or so of that, she stopped waking - well not so regularly anyway.
The only time she has backtracked is if she is sick and I would take her to the spare bed and sleep there with her. She's in her own bed now, so if she wakes up upset, I just climb into bed with her and go back to sleep.
To be honest lovey, you just have to do what you can to get some sleep. If it means doing what all the text books say not to do, don't worry about it. Your household doesn't function without you, so you need to be given some space to recuperate, and that is going to take help from Rod. All the best - I really hope things are on the up. Things seem a million times worse when you're sleep deprived.
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Posted By: WiggleBumsMum
Date Posted: 24 January 2006 at 3:55pm
Hun, I think its just men. My man is a great dad, when its convienient for him! Hes always on about how he works so hard for us and blah blah blah, never mind what i do for him (his clothes seem to automatically pick themselves up from the bedroom floor all dirty and put themselves away all clean in his draws?! same for dishes etc). Anyway, yesterday it was really hot and Jack was tired and grumpy coz when its hot he won't sleep for long. So i phoned him and offered to do the afternoon milking for him. He was rapt. haha. Well, i came home and bub had grizzled the whole time so he didn't get to do any of the fun things he thought he would, HA! Man he wasn't happy! But at least he got an insight into the fact that i don't sit at home and have a cruisy time with the baby.
I know you work so your situation is totally different to mine, and man i don't know how you do it!! At least i could squeeze a nap in. The point of my story i guess is that men have absoulutly no empathy what-so-ever! So its not only your man gal, its most of them! Hang in there your not alone.
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Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 24 January 2006 at 4:20pm
thanks guys, its great to be able to come on here and rant. He's not sleeping any better, so I think I will try the sleeping in his room thing for a while next week. Although, that said, I do sleep in there is Rod is snoring hard out, and it seems to make JJ more wakeful. I've given up on getting Rod to get out of bed, so when he wakes around 2 or 3 I have just been feeding him, and he has been going through to about 6, which is better than it was, but not ideal. I guess it will sort itself out. He's such a little piggy, he really should be going longer without a snack!!
------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P
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Posted By: Popsicle
Date Posted: 24 January 2006 at 4:53pm
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I also did do controlled crying and found that it worked over time, but that is more relevant for when they don't settle when you put them to bed - it's the last thing you want to do in the middle of the night !
If you do get to the point where you are just going to do CIO, maybe try some earplugs! LOL! Good luck - I hope the sleep fairy watches over you tonight!
If he's waking up to feed, could you maybe try reducing the amount you give him so that he eventually gets out of the habit of waking - or giving him water for that feed? I know some babies need more than others so not saying you should do it, but if you feel that he really doesn't need that feed, maybe see how you go with it. I dunno - just a bit of giving everything a go to see what works. Something has to eventually aye?
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Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 24 January 2006 at 9:58pm
Don't feel bad for feeding him - if he is a regular feeder then he is used to being fed and it doesn't mean he should go longer really.. in the grand scheme of things - giving a feed to help settle is a heck of alot easier to stop (as they grow older they'll stop needing it anyway) than some other habits - my older sis did the sleep in the room thing with her child - and still has to do it alot of the time now - her boy is nearly 4 now - his dad falls asleep on the matress reading him stories every night.. not bagging the way some people do things - cos lord knows i have done my fair share of things to try and get some sleep - but also realise what you start will sometimes go on longer than you originally thought, and instead of solving the prob, will just give you another thing to have to try and stop.
------------- Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja
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Posted By: james
Date Posted: 24 January 2006 at 10:12pm
that is so ture mum2paris my by still has a bottle over night but he also co-sleeps with me so i bad bad mummy
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Posted By: meow
Date Posted: 24 January 2006 at 11:18pm
Sorry you are going through this, just wanted you to know that we've been through it before too.. I used to nudge my partner until he woke up, he was grumpy at first with having to get up to her, but now he sleeps with one ear open ;)
We've done the CIO in the middle of the night, not fun, and not guaranteed to work either :( Ella went through just over a week of waking every night and staying up for 2-3 hours, we never figured out why but it just stopped all of a sudden. Ever since she first started teething (10 months) we've had good and bad weeks of her sleeping.. and she still only has 7 teeth to show for it all!
Sorry about your hubby not helping out, my DP has become much better now but I still do the dishes unless I nag, I've always done the washing, cooked dinner most of the time etc etc.. as long as I can make him watch Ella while I'm doing these things it's ok.. but sometimes he will only half watch her and she comes wandering back to me and clings and whines..
Hopefully he will start to get his act together soon for you!!
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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 25 January 2006 at 9:48am
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I co-sleep too james. I figure with Jake and taine not sleeping at the same times yet, so i can't nap, not to mention Jake getting up at 5am nowadays, it's easier for me to sleep while I feed taine in bed. Works for us, however I don't sleep as well with him in the bed.
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Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 25 January 2006 at 3:08pm
Yeah Janine, i am so hearing you about the "acidental parenting " thing, thats how we got into this mess I think (coupled with heat and teeth) by feeding him everytime he woke up. Realistically, though, a 9.5kg chubba dosen't really need to feed every 2 hours, i'm sure!!! i have been feeding him when he wakes though this week, as I am DESPERATE for some sleep, and he has been doign about 4 hours (but goes 5 or 6 during the day? go figure?) Done the CC thing as well.
Roll on cooler nights and those damn top teeth to come through SOON.
------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P
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Posted By: fairsk8
Date Posted: 25 January 2006 at 4:36pm
Have you tried feeding him just every 4 hours during the day, even if it does mean waking him. I will only let Xanda go for a max of 4 hours between feeds during day time because i found it helps him sleep better at night.
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Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 26 January 2006 at 2:23pm
Hey Annie, I don't know if this is at all relevant as it was advice my midwife gave me when Hannah was a newborn, but she told me not to let Han sleep in really long stretches during the day (a newborn not longer than 4 hours between feeds) as they get not enough sleep for night time.
I'm not even sure if he is sleeping for ages every day.
Ah who knows!
Just wanted to reassure Lu as well that I have slept with Han off and on since she was born. I know it's "bad" but it makes life so much easier and I'm not sure I would have survived if I wasn't able to take the easy option of letting her sleep with me. Now however there is no way she is sleeping in my bed. But anyway, who cares if it's wrong. If it works then that's fine! Especially when you are the one that has to deal with it (as a single mum)
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Posted By: nuttymama
Date Posted: 26 January 2006 at 3:42pm
Abby is now a year old and I still get up to feed her during the night. She wakes up most nights and the only way she will settle is a feed, the way I figure it is I lose 15mins sleep feeding her instead of a couple of hours trying to settle her. As to bed sharing I did it with both my boys, micheal was 4 1/2 before we managed to get him out and Jayden was 3 but he still climbs into the end of our bed sometimes. Luckily abby likes her bed now (slept with us until 9 month) and we mostly get our bed to ourselves.
------------- Abigail 06/01/2005
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Posted By: james
Date Posted: 26 January 2006 at 8:38pm
i dont feel to bad abiut co-sleeping it makes it easry fr me i on my own most of the time its because i too tried too put him back in his bed
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Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 08 February 2006 at 10:12am
Well, still no joy. I am beginning to think my milk isn't filling him up. A great example of this is we went to the blues brews and bbqs on sat, so my parents were looking after JJ. He had formula all day (except the 2 *early* feeds and one before I went) about 3 bottles I guess, and he slept thru till 4.45am then I got up and *bottle* fed, (cos my milk woulda been pure alcohol..) Did the same on the next night (formula all day)I am wondering about my supply, because even though I went all day without feeding, 24 hours later, I still didn't feel full, and I expresed some off anyway and only had 40mls. I Sadly have come to the conclusion that this might be my prob, so I am only going to feed him when he wakes with my milk.. *sob sob* I feel like a bad mum, as I planned to B/F for ever, we had so many problems a the beginning, he wouldn't even go near my breast for 6 weeks, so I expressed and bottle fed him, then we had a lactation consultant come to us, and he finally breast fed at 6.5 weeks. I feel like I have given up, but I hate to think my baby is hungary!! I guess this guilt is normal..
Oh yeah, Nikki, he has 2 naps, sometimes lasting as long as 2 hours or so, sometimes only 1 hour. The less he gets the worse he sleeps at night.
Fairsk8, I would feed him 4 hourly, but I think he is a bit big for that now, he won't feed if he dosen't want to. He does feed roughly every 5 hours, though.
------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P
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Posted By: daikini
Date Posted: 08 February 2006 at 10:40am
Don't feel like a bad mum, Annie. YOU'VE DONE NOTHING WRONG!!!
I planned to breastfeed Josiah until he was at least 12 months old, but I realised he needed more than I was giving him last month. Josiah has been having formula every feed except first thing in the morning for 3 weeks now, and he is so much happier. Seeing how much more content he is has helped me get over feeling guilty that I couldn't do that for him.
If this is what you think is best for your son, then you are in the right.
------------- Becca, mum of 2 girls & 3 boys
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Posted By: toniellis
Date Posted: 08 February 2006 at 10:45am
You are definitely NOT a bad Mum!!! If you had been bottle feeding with the breastfeeding that might be why your supply has slowed but to be honest I could go for hours without feeding Alex & not get full. I found that after my supply settled down I didn't actually get full & my aunt (who is a midwife) said that breasts usually produce 80% of milk once Bubs starts feeding rather than building it up throughout the day & storing it.Also I found that the older Alex got the less filling breastmilk was for him. Before bedtime I used to feed him up on solids (dinner & dessert), then one last breastfeed, kisses, cuddles then put him in his cot. Thats my routine still & except when he is teething he sleeps really well (11 hours at night with a 4 hour sleep during the day).
I hope things get better for you. I can't even imagine how hard it is. You are definitely a wonderful mum!!
------------- Mum to Alex (11), Blaire (10) & Erika (8) and Damien (6)
Successful HWB VBA2Cs! Soon to be surrogate
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Posted By: james
Date Posted: 08 February 2006 at 10:14pm
please try not to feel gliuty i coundnt b/f as james counldnt lacth and it was so hard as i relly wanted to b/f u have done it this long and i,m sure u r great mum (u r on here)now james is on formula he is so much happerir if u need help i hread that le-leche legae can help u could call them
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Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 09 February 2006 at 9:12am
Hey Annie. Don't feel guilty babe. Sometimes it just doesn't work as planned. And if it makes for a happier babe who has more sleep then I'm pretty sure you'll be a happier mum too!!!
And yeah, regarding sleep - soooo annoying how kids are backwards. You'd think if they were really tired they'd sleep longer but it seems to work the other way. Extremely frustrating!
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Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 09 February 2006 at 8:55pm
Ah well, at least I get "boobies" semi back to myself. Am going to buy myself one of those new triumph maximiser bras.... think I may have to wean myself off the comfort of maternity bras though....
------------- The Honest Un PC Parent of 2, usually stuck in the naughty corner! :P
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Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 10 February 2006 at 9:50am
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hrmmm i like the sounds of a maximiser bra. even if i 'maximise' what i have it'll still be relatively pityful!
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Posted By: newmum
Date Posted: 10 February 2006 at 11:13am
hehehehehe!!
I have a triumph minimiser.... hehehehe
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Posted By: daikini
Date Posted: 10 February 2006 at 11:30am
That's the best thing about stopping breastfeeding - you can wear sexy bras while you still have cleavege!
------------- Becca, mum of 2 girls & 3 boys
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Posted By: nuttymama
Date Posted: 10 February 2006 at 1:45pm
I'm just weaning abby off and haven't fed her for nearly a week, and I must say I bid a sad farewell to my breasts, what I have now are definately becomming a shadow of there former selves. I am however looking forward to some fancy push up bras. Please don't feel bad about the breastfeeding thing. I've had three kids and they have all had to be topped up with formula, I gave up feeding my first due to lack of knowledge and support and had to stop feeding my second due to health reasons, I fed abby with top ups and she fed for a year before deciding she prefers her bottle. Thanks but no thanks mum. And my boys didn't suffer for having formula as opposed to breastmilk. If it means you can both sleep and are happy then that makes you a DAM GOOD MOTHER!!!!
------------- Abigail 06/01/2005
Jayden 21/11/2001
Micheal 03/04/1997
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Posted By: james
Date Posted: 10 February 2006 at 4:10pm
gotta agree we woman carry far to much guilt if u r a good mum love ya kids then dont waste time feelng guilty!!!!!!
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Posted By: nikkitheknitter
Date Posted: 11 February 2006 at 10:45am
I hate you Ana. Wait until you stop breastfeeding
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Posted By: mum2paris
Date Posted: 11 February 2006 at 11:30pm
ahhh cleavage - those were the days - fair enough i was a heck of alot larger in all aspects than i am now but the huge black and white pic of me and mike hanging in our lounge - taken pre-pre-paris, i have the most awesome cleavage.. i spose at least I will always have that pic - am waiting for the day that paris asks "mummy where did your boobs go?!" looking at the pic and then at me now, lololol.
am begining to think Ayja might benefit from bottle feeding too - if only she would take it - right now she is on a food strike - won't eat food, won't take bottle, even at daycare where she usually is a great eater and drinker. i can only feed her when she is just waking up or just about asleep otherwise she doesn't really even feed off me that well - I know i have heaps of milk cos if i even miss 1 feed i am in agony (so for first few days each placement till my body gets the message... i look like dolly parton by half way thru the day!) I am at a loss of what to do right now with her - she's a tiny dot.. last thing i need is her fading away.
------------- Janine and her 2 cool chicks, Paris & Ayja
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Posted By: aimeejoy
Date Posted: 12 February 2006 at 11:23am
I am a bridesmaid next Saturday and I am wearing a halterneck top and OMG I look like I have the hugest boobs in the world! The other two BMs and the bride have no boobs so I am going to look even bigger next to them! BTW, Daniel thinks its a great dress!! lol
------------- Aimee
Hannah 22/10/05
Greer 11/02/08
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Posted By: fattartsrock
Date Posted: 10 April 2006 at 10:07pm
bump
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Posted By: amethyst
Date Posted: 11 April 2006 at 2:20pm
Thank you
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