autism cure - on oprah now...
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Topic: autism cure - on oprah now...
Posted By: Bizzy
Subject: autism cure - on oprah now...
Date Posted: 19 February 2008 at 2:29pm
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jenny mccarthy is on oprah now talking about her son evan who was diagnosed with autism aged 2 and is now (at 5) recovering....
very interesting...  ------------- http://www.myfitnesspal.com/weight-loss-ticker"> 
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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 19 February 2008 at 3:22pm
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well that was one of the most interesting Oprah's i have seen in a while.
Jenny mccarthy and holly robinson-peet were both talking about their sons who have autisim. jenny claims that it was linked to her sons MMR vaccine and holly seemed to back this theory up. Jenny also claimed that diet (dairy and wheat free diet) played a big part in her sons recovery. Holly said that when her son was diagnosed in 1989 the odds were 1 in 3000 but now it is 1 in 95 boys!!! Big change in the odds there. ------------- http://www.myfitnesspal.com/weight-loss-ticker">
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Posted By: ShellandBella
Date Posted: 19 February 2008 at 4:24pm
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I remember seeing Jenny McCarthy on "Ellen" talking about this issue - it was really interesting and she's written a book about it I think. ------------- http://lilypie.com"> 
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Posted By: katie1
Date Posted: 19 February 2008 at 4:53pm
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Posted By: Bizzy
Date Posted: 19 February 2008 at 5:08pm
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they didnt say, but i think it is a combination of environmental factors and the vaccine. they said that they werent against vaccinations but that the one size fits all approach may not be the right one. i think too that holly said that some kids may be predisposed to become autistic and that should be looked into.
Interestingly the CDC gave a statement re the vaccination theory that didnt completely rule it out and said that they were looking into the possibility that some component (cant remember the name sorry) may be linked to the onset of autism in some children. ------------- http://www.myfitnesspal.com/weight-loss-ticker">
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Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 19 February 2008 at 5:33pm
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hmmm i dont wanna get into this too much:)..but she was very vague i thought about some things.. in all reality autism is rarely 'cured' but it can happen..and intervention certainly does help..but i think what she says about him being in recovery is a little unfair and makes others whose children can't be cured (vast majority) feel a little..put out i think...as for links to the vaccine..that's a really sore point..and nothing has been proven but there are as you say some thoughts about the possibilty....
some people (those whose Dad's have Asperger's for example are at more genetic pre disposition...IMHO it was kinda.... well he has autism and I cured it you can too.. which is really unrealistic for most parents:( but it was interesting(I've seen it twice ) ------------- Mum to two amazing boys! |
Posted By: 11111
Date Posted: 19 February 2008 at 7:29pm
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I would say and I did not watch this, but from my limited knowledge I would have said it can't be cured completly, but with the right support diet etc it can be managered and those that have teh right support from a young age can go on to live productive lives. As far as teh vaccine thing goes i think there is a possiblity this can be a link, but I do beleve other factor's might be involved.
As I said this is from my limited knowledge. ------------- Deborah Mum to:   
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Posted By: FionaS
Date Posted: 19 February 2008 at 8:25pm
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From what I've read (i'm no expert though) autism isn't fully confirmed until a child is in school. Many toddlers / infants can appear autistic and have very autistic behaviours but eventually learn how to move past them. They probably have autistic tendencies + sensory processing issues + food intolerences that take time and effort to overcome. It seems sensory issues (i.e. autistic LIKE issues) are becoming more common.
Many kids with autistic like symptoms are as good as cured with the special diet so perhaps the underlying problem is the way their bodies react to the food rather than a neurological condition as such??? Sorry! Ramblings! Faaaaar to hard to discuss online but I do wish I'd seen the Oprah episode! So interesting. ------------- Mummy to Gabrielle and Ashley |
Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 20 February 2008 at 8:36am
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fiona- yes what you say is totally true..they dont like to confirm till about 6..though often it is obvious before then..depends on where on the scale they are. ------------- Mum to two amazing boys! |
Posted By: miss
Date Posted: 20 February 2008 at 10:19am
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The ingrediant is thimerasol
it is a mercury based component and has been removed from all vaccines given to children in NZ for a few years now. -------------  
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Posted By: Jay_R
Date Posted: 20 February 2008 at 12:13pm
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Big confession here - I'm so terrified of Joshua being autistic (I have three first cousins who are autistic to varying degrees) that I am a bad mother and have not taken him for his 15month immunisations.....
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Posted By: FionaS
Date Posted: 20 February 2008 at 12:32pm
Oh HUGE hugs! IMO you are not a bad mummy. Being a good parent is about weighing up the issues and making the best decisions you can and that is exactly what you've done. How is Joshua getting on? HUGS! I know what it is like to worry. ------------- Mummy to Gabrielle and Ashley |
joshierocks wrote:Posted By: Andie
Date Posted: 20 February 2008 at 12:37pm
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Oi - no 'bad mother' talk over that one, y'hear!! ------------- Andie |
Ella hasn't had the Meningoccal vac's because my decision after researching it was that it's still under-developed and I didn't want to risk her having it. Sure, people say 'why risk her getting the disease', but lets face it - could be risks either way and we all make the call that we do based on our gut instincts about what we've read and researched. Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 20 February 2008 at 12:39pm
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My mum wouldn't let us have the Hep B one for the same reason Andie, it was brand new and she didn't want us being "guinea pigs". -------------  Maya Grace (28/02/03)
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Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 20 February 2008 at 9:58pm
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Well Spencer hasn't had any vaccines and I don't think that i'm a bad mum, I think I have just made a decision not to give them to him. Afterall in nz it is informed consent, so that doesn't mean you must have them or that you are bad for not having them, it just means that you got informed and decided not to consent.
I'm not sure about the whole autism thing, it is quite scary that such an increase as occured but I do sometimes think that people are too quick to put children into boxes and what may have once just been seen as willful or shy etc is now autism or ADHD, but then I also don't know much about it so could just be talking out of my A hole. I definitely think that more research needs to be done into the possible causes and anything like diets that can be done to help the condition. ------------- 
 
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Posted By: yummymummy
Date Posted: 21 February 2008 at 7:32am
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We won't be giving Gina the MMR when she's 15 months here - I think it's too young. We have no one in the family with autism and I'm not worried at all about Gina but I'm still going to wait.
We skipped the Menz B here too, we are not 'high-risk' and after reading about it, we decided against it. I too don't think bad mummy = skipping vacs as long as it's an informed choice. ------------- http://lilypie.com">  http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: miss
Date Posted: 21 February 2008 at 10:54am
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I am totally pro vaccines and will still probably delay the MMR, mostly becasue I don't understand the need for them to be given all at once. If it wasn't so expensive I would consider getting them seperatly. -------------
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Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 21 February 2008 at 11:01am
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It shouldn't cost you any more to get them done separately? I had the gremlins MenzB done separately to their DTapHib and Hep ones. Unless you mean getting the individual vaccines for measles, mumps, rubella etc.? ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
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The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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