MenzB Imms..
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Topic: MenzB Imms..
Posted By: MissCandice
Subject: MenzB Imms..
Date Posted: 01 March 2008 at 12:37pm
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Are these actually bad? Iv heard people going on about some doco on tv and now they are saying they are disgusted and wish they hadnt given it to their kids..
Why would it be there if its really bad? Im really very worried now as i didnt think anythng of it and just got it done because the doctor told me too. Did anyone see the doco why is it bad? ------------- ~ Mummy to a beautiful girl ~ |
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Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 01 March 2008 at 12:42pm
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i didn't see the doco but have been up and down about whether to give it to Ethan so would be great to see what the doco said..its not proven which is what worries me..but i will be giving it to him i think because what if he got it and i hadnt..but anyway be good to see what doco said. ------------- Mum to two amazing boys! |
Posted By: MissCandice
Date Posted: 01 March 2008 at 12:48pm
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Thats what made me get it too kawww.. what iif i didnt give it to her and then she got it, i couldnt live with myself. But now what if there is something wrong with the jab and i give her something else? ------------- ~ Mummy to a beautiful girl ~ |
Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 01 March 2008 at 12:59pm
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www.ias.org.nz
Have a look at the above website it is for the immunisation awareness society. For some reason it is not working on my computer at the moment but I think its cos I have an apple mac and not their website. On the left hand side is a page for vaccines and dieseases and then a link for MenzB, check out what they say. I didn't see the doco but this website probably has the same info. (Just be aware that they are the exact opposite of the gov and are very anti vaccine so take it with a pinch of salt.) I would not just do what anyone suggests for anything and would always research it myself first, but that's just me. The medical profession and government is well known for saying things are "safe" and then twenty years later paying out millions in compensation because they either knew damn well it wasn't or they didn't know but decided to give it to people anyway. ------------- 
 
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Posted By: MissCandice
Date Posted: 01 March 2008 at 1:01pm
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It wont work for me either. I click on MenzB and it does nothing?? ------------- ~ Mummy to a beautiful girl ~ |
Posted By: cuppatea
Date Posted: 01 March 2008 at 1:08pm
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Must be their website then cos that's what it was doing with me. Try it again tomorrow it does normally work so perhaps they are doing site maintenance or something. -------------
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Posted By: kebakat
Date Posted: 01 March 2008 at 1:30pm
| We haven't given Daniel the menzb ones initally because we didn't want him to have 3 jabs in one go, and are very glad we did this as he reacts badly to one of them. So we put it off and then after talking about it we aren't going to do it because it's not proven and there have been too many cases where kids have been immunised and still got it. |
Posted By: BabyKiwi
Date Posted: 01 March 2008 at 1:38pm
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The thing about immu is that regardless of whether or not they get their jabs, they will still end up with certain things. I think they advise you get them so that it lessens the effect of the disease if it does strike as the body had built up their immunity to it.
Still, I don't think anyone has the right to tell you whether or not you should get them done, it's a matter of choice. We are debating whether or not to give the MMR, there was a huge debate in the UK a few years back about this jab as there was apparently links to autism. |
Posted By: ElfsMum
Date Posted: 01 March 2008 at 1:53pm
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its a hard topic...theres lots of talk aobut MMR and autism...but nothing is proven yet.. most of research i have read has no higher rates for immunised than non immunised(and the autistic people i know and work with mostly dont agree with this link..its partially thought of because autism rears its head aobut when jabs are given )
..but as you say its totally a personal thing..i worry about as cuppatea says what happens if in 20 years they prove something is wrong with it...but also as you say its not to prevent disease but to lessen effects..so many thoughts:( ------------- Mum to two amazing boys! |
Posted By: Rachael21
Date Posted: 01 March 2008 at 1:58pm
| It is a really hard choice and something only you can decide, I think either way you are doing what you think is best. If she has already had them then don't go looking for things it might cause, you will just get yourself worried. |
Posted By: pepsi
Date Posted: 01 March 2008 at 3:57pm
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I saw the Doco and ultimately it showed that side effects *can* occur (just like any other jabs or medication) and in really rare cases they can cause ongoing problems.
Alyssa has had all her jabs and it was our personal decision based on the fact that the effects of catching meningitis are far worse than the consequences of any side effects which she would be unlikely to have from the jab. |
Posted By: myfullhouse
Date Posted: 01 March 2008 at 5:29pm
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as everyone has said it is a personal decision. I didn't see the doco but from the info I read I thought that it may have been slightly biased. In the end we decided to give Jack all his jabs. there were 2 really good websites that I went on to get info about MeNZB but I can only find http://www.immune.org.nz - this one. If you google meNZB you may find more info ------------- Lindsey 
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Posted By: Bobbie
Date Posted: 01 March 2008 at 6:40pm
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We weighed up the pros and cons and ultimately decided to go with it. Obviously it's hard to be 100% informed but we are happy that we made an informed decision and for us that's the main thing - not going into it knowing nothing.
But like everyone else says it's a personal decision and ultimately it comes down to whether you would worry heaps about them contracting it if you didn't get it or if you would worry more about potential future side effects. -------------  
 
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Posted By: lizzle
Date Posted: 01 March 2008 at 7:22pm
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with stuff like this, I believe in researching stuff before it's done, but if it's done already - ignoring everything cause it's too late and you just feel bad.
we had both boys immunised and regret nothing |
Posted By: mummy_becks
Date Posted: 01 March 2008 at 7:36pm
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I did a bit of research on the jab before I had Josh and decided that I wanted it done after he turned 5 months old. My dr (at that time) was a bit shocked that I didn't want it done at first but when I explained that I wanted it done later he was a little bit better. But the nurse when Josh went into have the 6 week jabs was totally shocked that I wasn't getting him done. I had to argue with her about it. Ended up telling her it was MY choice and I had made MY decision. As you've had it done don't worry to much. ------------- I was a puree feeder, forward facing, cot sleeping, pram pushing kind of Mum... and my kids survived! |
Posted By: susieq
Date Posted: 01 March 2008 at 8:08pm
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I think you mad a good choice getting it done.
I am the co-ordinator of a special needs group and alot of our mums of special needs children have had their children immunised. |
Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 01 March 2008 at 8:40pm
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I've had all of mine immunised and don't regret it at all. My brother nearly died from complications of measles (encephalitis) at 5, so there wasn't much to think about from my perspective.
Re: the autism/MMR link, Kawwww is right, research has conclusively proven that there is no link at all, but autism tends to first begin to become apparent around the age the MMR imm is given. -------------  Maya Grace (28/02/03)
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The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: BellaBoo
Date Posted: 01 March 2008 at 9:33pm
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We decided to go with all the immunisations as I could not live with myself if Bella became sick because I didnt get them done. If she has a side effect from the jabs I would be devastated but I would know that I was trying to do what was best and not feel as awful as the above situation. ------------- http://lilypie.com">   http://lilypie.com">
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Posted By: BabyKiwi
Date Posted: 01 March 2008 at 9:40pm
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Yep, Maya, thats what I have read also about the MMR/Autism link also.
Back in the UK, years ago they used to give the MMR at 1 years old, but I think they have now changed it due to the research! |
Posted By: Maya
Date Posted: 01 March 2008 at 9:48pm
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They used to do the MMR at 9 months in Aus, my brother was done and still went on to get both measles and rubella. They later discovered that the antibodies passed thru breastmilk can be still present in a baby at 9 months which fools the immunisation into thinking the body already has immunity. So they rescheduled it to 12 months + by which time the antibodies have diminished. ------------- Maya Grace (28/02/03)
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The Gremlins:Sienna Marie & Mercedes Kailah (14/10/06)
Lil miss:Chiara Louise Chloe (09/07/08)
Her ladyship:Rosalia Sophie Anais (18/06/12)
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Posted By: miss
Date Posted: 01 March 2008 at 10:22pm
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With children still gettin meningitis after having the imms - the fact is that many of the reported cases turn out to have a different strain of the disease to the one vaccinated for. Also, if they have had the actual disease, they have not lost limbs or life as while the protection is not complete it means a mild dose.
Regarding the MMR/autism link, the thing that they seemed to belive was the link was the additive thimerasol which is a mercury based thing. That has been phased out of all children's imms in NZ since early 2000's, so even if there was any truth to the studies the thing that may have had a link is not present in the MMR anymore. -------------  
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Posted By: emz
Date Posted: 02 March 2008 at 2:41pm
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Yeah, like miss said children that are immunised for MenZB can still get meningitis, but its either a different strain or the effects aren't as bad.
For us it was a no-brainer to get it done for Jack as I'd researched it all when I had to make the decision to get it done myself (which I did). Also, my mums cousin died about 3 years ago at the age of 19 from meningitis. The jab would have saved him as the effects wouldn't have been as bad and they would have got him to a doctors before it got too bad (he went to bed one night feeling sick and never woke up  ). I'm not pushing it either way but that's why I have no qualms with giving Jack the imms as I've seen the impact a meningitis death can have on a family. But it's completely personal of course.
If you've already given Kylah the first one, maybe just do a bit of research and then decide if you want to give her the rest. A lot of the doco's on it are extremely biased either way so do take the comments with a grain of salt. I guess you need to weigh up *potential* side effects of any imm/medication/treatment against the possible benefit of getting it. It's a hard one for a lot of people though! |
Posted By: miss
Date Posted: 02 March 2008 at 5:56pm
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Emz - we too lost a family member at a similar age to it. The really sad thing is her mother realised what iit was straight away and even getting straight onto medical care from early symptoms wasn't enough to save her. -------------
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Posted By: Bobbie
Date Posted: 04 March 2008 at 2:02pm
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My sister almost died from a different strain at the age of 4 - was in a drug induced coma for a week. I was given a serum at the time as I shared a room with her and luckily didn't go on to contract it.
This was in the very early 80's when it wasn't common. She was diagnosed with the flu to start with and by the time she got to hospital it was very touch and go. Now she's 29 and perfectly fit and healthy.  She was so so lucky. But I still remember at the age of 6 noticing how much it affected my parents. Plus because I had knocked her over the day before she got sick I thought her headache was my fault  (6 year old logic)-------------
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